Android newbie here. I just inherited a Nook Color, and was able to successfully flash over CM10.1 RC1 on it with the latest Google Apps, and everything seems to be working nicely. Being new to Android, and I guess in particular to the Nook Color, the internal storage partitions are a bit confusion. I flashed this Nook Color to have the "newer" partition configuration, 5GB data and 1GB media storage when the previous owner was starting to run low on app space. Now that I have it, the configuration seems to be the same (I guess CM10.1 doesn't touch partition configurations)...
That said, my problem lays with how storage is used. In the storage menu I see three types of storage, two internal and one sd card.
Internal Storage = Total space 5.09 GB (no option to unmount)
SD Card = Total Space 898 MB (option to unmount available)
Internal Storage = 791 MB (option to unmount available)
From what I understand, is that, the first Internal storage is where the OS sits and is allocated for apps and what not. The SD Card, is obviously my 1GB SD Card I used to flash CM10.1 RC1. The third item, the second internal storage listed, I believe is supposedly the media storage, for mp3s, documents, etc.
What confuses me is when I want to save photos from the browser or download files using either the web browser or accessing my Skydrive, they all require I have my SD Card inserted, even though I have that Internal Storage free? Removing my SD card will prompt apps to say "SD Card Required." Any way to use the internal memory instead of having to perpetually have an SD card in my Nook Color? Thanks!
Not with CM10.1. CM7 had an option to swap internal and external SDs, but it is missing in CM10.1. Best to just get a second SD to keep there all the time. That 791MB will disappear quickly anyway when you start downloading things. SDs are cheap and roomy. Many apps won't work without one.
Btw, you were right on your assumptions for everything.
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leapinlar said:
Not with CM10.1. CM7 had an option to swap internal and external SDs, but it is missing in CM10.1. Best to just get a second SD to keep there all the time. That 791MB will disappear quickly anyway when you start downloading things. SDs are cheap and roomy. Many apps won't work without one.
Btw, you were right on your assumptions for everything.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks for the info. So since the media storage is pretty much being wasted space, I should just repartition the entire thing for OS and App installs (seems like by default Apps install to that partition and not the SD card)? I hope CM10.1 later on rectifies this. Things go nuts when I plug in the Nook Color and the SD card gets mounted and unmounted, forcing me to have to restart. I see things like multiple 2GiB files on the SD card even though the card is really only 1 GiB? Really weird.
SDreamer said:
Thanks for the info. So since the media storage is pretty much being wasted space, I should just repartition the entire thing for OS and App installs (seems like by default Apps install to that partition and not the SD card)? I hope CM10.1 later on rectifies this. Things go nuts when I plug in the Nook Color and the SD card gets mounted and unmounted, forcing me to have to restart. I see things like multiple 2GiB files on the SD card even though the card is really only 1 GiB? Really weird.
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It is not wasted, you can store things there if you want. And no, there is no reason to repartition farther than you already have. 5GB is huge for storing installed apps and their settings.
And you should get a relatively large SD (certainly 8GB or above) and leave it in the slot all the time. That is the way it is intended to be used. Then you will have no issues with removing the SD. That smaller SD should be burned as a bootable CWM SD and saved for future use. You WILL need it later.
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It is not wasted, you can store things there if you want.
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Leapinlar is, of course, right. Some apps can be told to use it, some can't. I use /emmc (now really /storage/sdcard0) for my music and podcasts.
If you stay one step behind the biggest SD cards, they're dirt cheap.
I ended up repartitioning mine to use the newer NC style 5GB for apps and 1GB for sdcard0... had some issues with my physical SD card not working on CM10.1 even though it works fine in the same NC on CM7 where it would show many times more GBs of used space than the size of the card, and eventually the files would go all corrupted, so I ended up having to get a nicer SD card. CM10.1 is picky about brand/speed of microSD you use.
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Hi,
I guess the subject says it all.
To clarify, I've just got my new Note and I currently have Acer A100. I took the titanium apps backup folder and transfered it to the Note and did a titanium backup restore.
I've successfully restored 316 apps, but still have 84 apps left.
My System Storage says: 1.8gb used - 184mb free
USB Storage from Storage says: 11.07gb total space - 8.37gb available space.
I couldn't complete the titanium backup restore and have to turn the phone off/on in order to stop the FROZEN apps restore process on the 318th app out of 464ish.
Moreover, I can't install anything from the Market and I get unable to install for insufficient storage error.
Any ideas, help? And please don't say I've to install an external SD card since I'm not planning at the moment. My concern now: why this is happening?
BTW, I don't have Facebook app installed so I can clear the cache, and I already did Market clear cache, but no luck.
Thanks!
No one????
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Move some apps to SD.
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
MartijnMM said:
Move some apps to SD.
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As I said earlier, I don't want to insert an external SD card at the moment. I want to use it like any other phone/tablet that has more than 3/4 of the storage available... BUT, thanks for the suggestion!
bubblesmoney said:
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
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I had the same exact thing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Around 190mb, my phone started to give that error.
So, I either had to install/uninstall apps and see if it moved them to internal storage, or I have to have an external SD card????
I just ordered a class 10 16gb sd card from AmazonBasics and I'm waiting for it. My problem is that I'm overseas and I want to use the phone fully without an SD card!!!!!!!!!!!
how big are the backups and what are you restoring? if you have loads of sms/mms etc then it will take up the internal space
the usb space you can ignore as that isnt part of the data space provided
The backup was 1.8gb. But I was restoring only the apps nothing else from titanium backup...
Is there away I can use the USB storage as internal storage for apps? And I mean not using an external SD card at ALL...???
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I tried doing that, but it tells me that I need to insert an SD card!!!!
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You have misunderstood move to SD option.
Gingerbread storage operate a bit different from Honeycomb.
The 16GB onboard storage in the Note is divided into two visible partitions, 2GB for storage apps and 11GB as SD card.
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
Just download App2SD and see which apps can be move to the 11GB partition to free up space for install extra apps.
Once Note get Ice Cream Sandwich update, hopefully we will not have this problem.
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no your method didnt work for me even though i had 10gb free on usb internal memory and 190mb free on partition reserved for apps. app2sdmove pro and stock application manager would refuse to move any app to usb 11gb memory. my 32gb sd card was full so couldnt move there either. only after i deleted some data and made space on my external 32gb card could i move apps withh app2sd pro or the stock app manager.
but curiously later (2w later) somehow (i dont know) now about 155 apps seem to have moved themselves to internal memory (the 11gb usb memory present internally on the phone and now i have 10gb used up on the internal memory and similar amount free on my card. god knows how that happened.
now as my phone was crashing again last night have had to remove sd card from phone and phone working fine. will see whether to copy data to lapton and reformat the card in phone and then transfer back data or whether to use a new card.
but the app move to sd feature is certainly buggy with there being different areas to move the app to. now some of my apps are on internal 1.9gb memory, some are on my 11gb internal memory and some are on sd card. i have no contrl over which app goes where irrespective of whether i use stock app manager or app2sd pro.
any pointers anyone, how to force all apps to move to internal 11gb memory and not to external sd card?
Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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m2b999 said:
Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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dont know but the crashing usually starts at night uk time and always hangs when system media scanner is perpetually scanning then device crashes. cant remember what apps i uninstalled but most were reinstalled and seemed to work fine a few days. same phone has been phone all day today but the sd card has been removed since last night. am busy work wise till tomorrow so havent had the time to sort out the sd card. will see over the next few days.
regarding the apps moving to internal sd card. i just deleted some apps then reinstalled them then used the regular apps2sd pro to move to sd card, seems t work sometimes, but not at other times. same goes for the app settings menu. for example if i now without sd card in phone try the sd card move option, it does not move apps to internal 11mb but rather i get pop up saying no sd card. but dont know how the 155apps are already on the same 11gb on internal memory, but many are still on the 1.9gb space of partitioned internal memory and can be moved.
i already have google earth installed from the market and moved it to sd card. but thought that some bits of it remain on internal memory. but doesnt look like it. now without sd card if i visit market then google earth on market gives install option again inspite of having it already on my sd card and when i press instal it installs again onto 1.9gb of internal memory and when i try apps 2 sd option then i get pop up saying no sd card and doesnt move it to the 11gb internal memory.
dont know how to sort this issue. will try to figure it out over the next few days but hoping someone else can give some pointers how to move apps to 11gb internal memory.
out of the 303 app icons present on my noteapp screen (including all the ones that came with the phone) 128 are on external sd card, 155 are on internal 11gb card. dont know how some went to internal sd card and some went to external sd card. hope someone can help out to move all of them to internal 11gb memory.
Bigmille said:
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
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This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
That's what I thought...
It's one of Note's drawbacks in terms of usage of internal storage and there's no workaround as far as I know.
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ChodTheWacko said:
This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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Whoa - you are right... Me neither. I got the location of Apps2D from the diskusage app. I wonder if it's a diskusage bug.
Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
hramosnook said:
Installed CM7.2 MiRaGe along with Go Launcher EX onto the eMMC recently and have a few questions.
Why do some apps require a SD card inorder to function even though the app itself installed on the internal storage (evernote, nook for android, etc)? If you open those apps, it will give an error saying it requires a SD card, I had to insert one and reboot inorder to use the app. looks like some directories were created on the sd card afterward so I assume some apps require to cache to it? I plan on having multiple cards so I can store movies on them. will I be able to hotswap the sd cards (meaning not having to power off or reboot)?
When I installed CM7.2, I just followed the directions within the thread. Should I have changed the partitions at all on the internal storage? any other tweaks do people usually make?
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If you don't want to use an SD card there is a setting in CM7 just for that purpose. Many apps will not run without one. Go to settings, cyanogenmod settings, apps, and select use internal storage. It swaps emmc and sdcard. It fools apps into using your emmc media partition as 'sdcard'. And your real SD shows up as 'emmc' so you can hot swap and get your movies.
Under storage settings.
Shows me SD Card total space 116MB Available space 12.52MB. My SD card was a 32 gig class 10.
Internal storage 4.9GB
Available space 4.33GB
Also C7 will boot without memory card in it. My cousin helped me root it and we used the SD card to root it. According to him I should be able to take the SD card out and boot into the normal NOOK settings. This correct?
I am getting errors when I try to install things to SD. Tells me there is not enough room.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense still very new to this.
Thanks for the help.
First, go to Settings>CyanogenMod settings>Application> and make sure Use internal storage is unchecked.
Then go to Setting>Storage and let us know about SD card, Internal and Additional storage values.
K9Shep said:
Under storage settings.
Shows me SD Card total space 116MB Available space 12.52MB. My SD card was a 32 gig class 10.
Internal storage 4.9GB
Available space 4.33GB
Also C7 will boot without memory card in it. My cousin helped me root it and we used the SD card to root it. According to him I should be able to take the SD card out and boot into the normal NOOK settings. This correct?
I am getting errors when I try to install things to SD. Tells me there is not enough room.
Sorry if this doesn't make much sense still very new to this.
Thanks for the help.
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Sounds like you installed CM7 to the internal memory, not to an external SD card. that's probably why you are seeing the space available on internal memory, but not the SD card. There is Verygreens's method to install CM7 and CM9 to the external card, leaving the stock Nook ROM in place, but it doesn't sound like you used it. To get answers to most of your questions, go to Leapinlar's great information page here:
Leapinlar's Tips
Specifics relating to installing CyanogenMod on an SD card are in the second post.
shumash said:
Sounds like you installed CM7 to the internal memory, not to an external SD card. that's probably why you are seeing the space available on internal memory, but not the SD card.
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Yes, I agree. It sounds like his friend set it up to install to SD by burning the image to the card, but somehow flashed the rom to internal memory instead. That would explain the 5GB internal space and 116Mb SD card space.
He needs to reformat the SD card to get the full size of the card available.
leapinlar said:
Yes, I agree. It sounds like his friend set it up to install to SD by burning the image to the card, but somehow flashed the rom to internal memory instead. That would explain the 5GB internal space and 116Mb SD card space.
He needs to reformat the SD card to get the full size of the card available.
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Well sounds like the stock nook interface is gone then. No big deal. Do I just reformat the SD card through the settings in android? The option states Erase SD Card. Would that be what I want to do?
Also not sure if this is related. But sometimes C7 wont boot when I have the SD card in. Take the SD card out and it boots just fine.
Well I grew a pair and did the Erase SD Card. Now it is showing 29.66GB.
K9Shep said:
Well I grew a pair and did the Erase SD Card. Now it is showing 29.66GB.
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LOL. Good job. Yes, stock Nook is gone. I can help you get it back if you want it, but most never miss it. The only reason people want it is for warranty or if they want to have kids books work.
Random side question but figured since I have ya here.
Any idea on a good note taking app for android? As in for school notes like during class?
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Random side question but figured since I have ya here.
Any idea on a good note taking app for android? As in for school notes like during class?
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Don't use it much for that, but Googling yields this:
Best note-taking apps for Android
So I am running CM7 off of an sd card in my nook color.(Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904129 and I highly recommend). Win32discimager for some reason created a small partition just larger than the installer which remains on the card. I also have the android OS on the card that is taking up 1 gb partition. The rest of my 16gb micro sd card is labeled as the emmc for the tablet which is not what i intended. Now I cant load it up with my movies and videos like I had hoped.
Does anyone know:
Is there any way I can change these partitions on my card? (I have already tried EasuUS partition manager)
Where did the 1gb partition that android is on come from and why did the emmc get so large?
Is there any way to take the android image currently on my sd card and just putting onto the nook after I have already had it run from the sd card and then just formatting my sd card for storage?
There are probably newbie questions but I have tried to do my own research and havent found any certainties. Any help would be really appreciated.
posturize said:
So I am running CM7 off of an sd card in my nook color.(Using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904129 and I highly recommend). Win32discimager for some reason created a small partition just larger than the installer which remains on the card. I also have the android OS on the card that is taking up 1 gb partition. The rest of my 16gb micro sd card is labeled as the emmc for the tablet which is not what i intended. Now I cant load it up with my movies and videos like I had hoped.
Does anyone know:
Is there any way I can change these partitions on my card? (I have already tried EasuUS partition manager)
Where did the 1gb partition that android is on come from and why did the emmc get so large?
Is there any way to take the android image currently on my sd card and just putting onto the nook after I have already had it run from the sd card and then just formatting my sd card for storage?
There are probably newbie questions but I have tried to do my own research and havent found any certainties. Any help would be really appreciated.
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Ok, first you need to go to my tips thread linked in my signature and read in section B how the verygreen SD works. You will understand the partition structure a little better.
Now for your sdcard/emmc media storage problem, you have a setting wrong in CM7. Go to settings, CyanogenMod settings, Application and uncheck "Use internal storage". What that setting does is swap emmc and sdcard so that your real sdcard is called emmc and internal media storage is called sdcard. It is not default that way. Somehow it got checked.
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So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
Download gl to SD from play store, you can move any data to external SD, just follow the directions.
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Sadly I dont think rooting can even help... the sd slot just seems like they added it so people would buy the phone atleast thats why I got this in stead of the iphone..
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SlayaDud said:
So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
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Here's the app that you need. Move any data to external_sd.
DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
EDIT: OOPS!!! DirectoryBind doesn't work on 4.2.2
(I'm still using it on my S2 w/Gingerbread. Waiting on the 32gb or 64gb S4.)
Have to use this instead:
[APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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ripper4209 said:
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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OK, I'm not a full-on geek (e.g. I do not want to root my device), still I'm pretty savvy, but I don't understand what you've said here.
I just updated from a Samsung Stratosphere (Android 2.3.6) to Stratosphere 2 (4.1.2), so I'm now acclimating to JellyBean.
I moved my SD card from the Strat to the Strat 2 and can see in the File Manager the sdcard0 and the exSdCard.
You are saying that in addition to my inserting an actual, physical SD card, there is both internal storage and additional built-in storage (sdcard0)?
Three separate storage areas?
The "main" internal is for the OS?
The built-in SD is for apps?
And my additional external SD is for data (e.g. video, music, etc.?)
I'm confused because, while the phone is still zipping along smoothly, Settings/Storage is telling me that, in 24 hours, I've already gobbled up 4.3 GB of my 8 GB device memory, > 3 GB of this being "miscellaneous" files.
Meanwhile, my application mgr tells me I have used 1.1 GB with 3.7 GB remaining.
Mind you, I am not a heavy app user (e.g. Evernote, my bank's app, NY Times, Dropbox, a few simple games), so what took a 3 GB chomp of my internal memory. For the life of me, I can't remember how I did it, but I did move all "consumer" data (e.g. documents, video, photos, etc.) to be stored on the extSD but, in 24 hours, I don't have that much to store.
Bottom line, are we non-rooters slaves to the internal (SD?) memory for our apps?