Now i know this thread is a little repetitive but this thread covers the red led problem in detail and also covers various scenarios of red led.
I very recently had a red led situation and had to scourge through various threads to find a solution and every thread covers a different solution.
I Have merely scourged, understood compiled and explained in detail all the problems related to nexus 4 Dying out and their solution. All the credits go to every person who originally provided these solutions in their threads (a lot many )
RED LED: All 4 SCENARIOS - All 4 FIXES
Just Follow the steps and you will be up and running with your phone in no time
Description: What happened was, you were merrily spending some beautiful moments with your phone but suddenly, the phone died and the red led started blinking and you felt like your world came crashing down. Then you attempt to restart you phone but nothing happens and the red led blinks again...even stops blinking after sometime, and now you feel that the time of your nexus 4 has come.But fret not... read on.. and you will be reunited with you living and fire breathing nexus 4:laugh:
SCENARIO 1:RED LED (OR NO LED)- LOW CHARGE
What actually happened: The battery drained completely (below a threshold level).This is different than normal discharge to empty and any attempt to reboot the phone results in the red led blinking or nothing at all indicating the battery is extremely drained.Why it happened: Its a fault from LG. The Battery Calibration circuitry or logic is a little messed up allowing the battery to discharge below a threshold and then stopping the discharging rather than stopping it before.Solution: Well this is the most non-worrying scenario to come out of. You simply pop-in the wall charger to the phone to allow it to charge. Initially red led will blink and after some time the charging indicator comes up on the screen. It may also happen that once you connect the charger, red led will not blink. Don't worry keep the charger connected. Ultimately the red led will blink and then charging indicator comes up(red led blinking may be skipped). Let it charge for a minimum of 20 minutes allowing the battery to charge about 15% before attempting to turn on your phone, other wise the phone may be stuck on the google logo while starting up.then charge the battery to full capacity and you are good to go.
SCENARIO 2:RED LED (OR NO LED)- BATTERY CUTOFF
What actually happened:Again the battery drained below a threshold OR due to the messed up battery callibration and the phone circuitry cuts off the battery even when the battery has some charge left.Why it happened::Fault at LG's side. Bad battery calibration implementation.Solution:A Slightly Difficult but only solution is to disconnect the battery. You do this by opening up the back and only disconnecting the battery connector for about 1 minute..this resets the battery cut-off then connect it again..put on the back.. charge for minimum 20 minutes.. the battery charging indication should come up on the screen, let the battery charge fully and you are good to go. Search on google for nexus 4 disassembly videos to know how to disassemble the nexus 4.You just need to open the back(the most detailed disassembly video is from "LE55ONS" on youtube). Be cautious while opening the back by not applying too much force or pressure.
SCENARIO 3:RED LED(OR NO LED) - BATTERY DISCHARGE AND CUTOFF
What actually happened: Again the battery drained below a threshold AND due to the messed up battery calibration and the phone circuitry ALSO cuts off the battery.This Scenario is a combination of of Scenario 1 and Scenario 2.Why it happened:: Again the blame goes to LG's Bad battery calibration implementation.
Solution: A little more complex than the previous solution.You have to open the back and charge the battery externally. Just open the back, disconnect the battery connector. Now rip apart a micro usb cable and connect(use tape) the red wire to the +ve terminal and black wire to the -ve terminal.
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then charge the battery with the original wall charger for not more than 10 minutes!.
then connect the battery back to the phone and now charge the battery via phone to the full capacity. and you are doneNOTE! Remember! since you are charging the battery externally, there is no charging circuitry involved to stop the charging when the battery is full.and you just need the amount of power required to boot up the phone. charging the battery externally for 10 minutes should charge the battery about 5-8% which is very much enough to boot up the phone. I WOULD SUGGEST FOLLOWING THE ALTERNATE METHOD BELOW
Alternatively, if you are a little paranoid over electricals like me, you can trickle charge the battery, means, instead of using the original wall charger that outputs 5v @ 1A, you can use old mobile chargers that usually output 5v @ 100mA. upto 250mA is fine. this way you can and have to externally charge the battery longer(without causing damage to battery) to regain 5-8%.
This solution was originally provided by http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250454&highlight=red+led Big thanks!
SCENARIO 3:NO RED LED, CANNOT CHARGE, AND YOU HAVE TRIED ALL THE ABOVE SOLUTION
What actually happened:: Faulty unit
Why it happened: Manufacturing defect.
Solution: Unfortunately, you will have to RMA your device
***************That was all the causes of the red led and their solution.. hit Thanks if this helped or you found it helpful *******************
Cheers and wish you a happy life ahead with your beloved Nexus 4 :fingers-crossed:
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Great!
Thank you so much.
But i wonder why it happens. The battery was at 85% whe the mobile suddenly went off then the red led thing happen.
It happens every month and dont know why.
Thanks for your excellent post. :good: :good:
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Not sure if anyone post it already.
After using the phone for 2 months, I've just experienced the red led issue.
The phone just shutdown suddenly with 4X% remaining when doing benchmark that charging with USB. It just turned off and followed by the red LED.
At that time, I thought I was fxxxed!
I tried to plug and unplug from the PC but no luck, it just popped out the "Google" logo and then the red LED lit up and repeat and repeat.
Then I plugged in the PC again and pressed power on + vol up, it allowed to go to bootloader but soon it shutdown, which means the hardware has't died.
This time I plugged it in the AC charger, the red LED started blinking.
Luckily, charging animation appeared and the phone can be turned on just charged for few minutes.
After turning on the phone, only 1% left.
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But I don't think It can drain the battery within a minute, so I decided to reboot the phone.
After reboot, I got 56% left.
Then, I got a conclusion that the red LED may be caused by the wrongly calibrated battery or overheat.
Sorry for my bad English
Or just a bad battery in general. Happened before on the htc phone I had.
Thanks for the screen shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37565454
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Here you go this has been talked about before many times. I had the same issue happen to me and posted just like you and got some more thread links to more people that has happened too.
its just that benchmarks pull a lot of current suddenly from the battery and it cant keep up (try turning on a crt monitor while powered from a 360W ups.. the ups will turn off)..
so once the voltage in the battery drops because of the load.. the phone thinks the battery is dead.. so once you give a little time to recover and charge it for a little while.. the voltage will stabilize and it will all be a ok
nok07635 said:
Not sure if anyone post it already.
After using the phone for 2 months, I've just experienced the red led issue.
The phone just shutdown suddenly with 4X% remaining when doing benchmark that charging with USB. It just turned off and followed by the red LED.
At that time, I thought I was fxxxed!
I tried to plug and unplug from the PC but no luck, it just popped out the "Google" logo and then the red LED lit up and repeat and repeat.
Then I plugged in the PC again and pressed power on + vol up, it allowed to go to bootloader but soon it shutdown, which means the hardware has't died.
This time I plugged it in the AC charger, the red LED started blinking.
Luckily, charging animation appeared and the phone can be turned on just charged for few minutes.
After turning on the phone, only 1% left.
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But I don't think It can drain the battery within a minute, so I decided to reboot the phone.
After reboot, I got 56% left.
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Then, I got a conclusion that the red LED may be caused by the wrongly calibrated battery or overheat.
Sorry for my bad English
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There are multiple reasons for the red light. Mine got it while running antutu. Was totaly unresponsive, but could get into bootloader to fastboot the stock images back. No luck on that (still dead) so I had to RMA it
Just had this happen to me Friday night. The batterry went dead so I connected it to the charger and it turned on but then it rebooted and the red LED came on! :/
Techguy18 said:
its just that benchmarks pull a lot of current suddenly from the battery and it cant keep up (try turning on a crt monitor while powered from a 360W ups.. the ups will turn off)..
so once the voltage in the battery drops because of the load.. the phone thinks the battery is dead.. so once you give a little time to recover and charge it for a little while.. the voltage will stabilize and it will all be a ok
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Happened to me on stock with the phone on the charger overnight. I couldn't even get into fastboot, but pulling the back off to reset the battery fixed it finally. It's such a common problem I halfway believe the LG-sourced batteries have an issue.
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No Red LED of Death.........
Red Heinz Tomato Soup of Death
Yes - I did just drop my Nexus⁴ into 1cm deep bowl of Heinz Tomato Soup.
Thank God for my factory installed screen saver & the 1st case I've EVER owned (one of those gel style from eBay £2:69
$hit, I was worried for a moment
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Theres a fix for that. Open back cover, unscrew battery connector, disconnect it, and connect it again. And dont screw it. Put the back over on and try to turn on device.
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Hey this just happened to me my phone was showing fully charged and then just went black put it on charger and booted up. I'm in cm10 nightly with latest Franco kernal
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This happened to me running the stock rooted ROM and Franco Kernel (Milestone)
The phone had died a few times, each time going to a red flashing light and would eventually power on. About a week ago, it happened again but the red light was solid and would not power on. The Red LED of Death.
I left it charging overnight for a few days and today managed to power it on. Before trying this jump-start method, I advise leaving it to charge for a very long time (several days). After around 12 hours it seems that the red light goes off. At this point I unplugged and plugged it back in, showing the red light again. I hope this helps someone else fix their phone.
Hello,
I've noticed my nexus is charging really slowly. When idle it goes really slow, when using it, the power is falling down..
Using the stock charger.
before this it was charging normaly
What hapened:
I was charging it and playing a game, then my roomate came and ripped it out of my hand thus bending the charging hole and snaping the cable connector. I bought a new cable and gently fixed the charging hole (micro usb slot) so now it is looking like it shoud...
could this be the reason? the conector might be damaged.
Now the tab has fully discharged.
It boots and shuts down.
Tried changing the cable, adabter no help.
The device is rooted, so I cant even unroot it and send it to the service.
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I have kind like the same problem:
My nexus is still charging, but it is really slow (~20hrs to charge fully) and the charge decreases if i use it while charging. I tried with another charger, but its no use. So it must be the connector or the battery. The issue started few days ago with now really reason ( except i am a poweruser). You could try to open the tablet, disconnect the battery for a few seconds and then try to revive it, or to change the battery. Another thing i noticed since the issue occured first is that i dont get a popup message when the power falls under 14% anymore, so may it be a software fail and the tablet is charging normally in truth?
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Not sure whether this helps, but I once had it charge in USB mode, though it was on AC. When this happened I could hear the device make a buzzing sound. It was charging much slower then. There is a way to check the charging mode but I forgot how. May be part of Android Tuner or DaahClock widget's Battery plugin.
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You can download spare parts, in the APP you can see wether its charging via USB or AC. But i think this wont help, cause the app says AC, but it seems im charging with USB power only ( if i use the tablet, the power level decreases while charging). I dont even think the issue is caused by a broken connector, because my Problem seems to be the same, and without connected charger, the tablet discharges much faster than normal. So its more like a fast uncharging problem caused by a defective part like the battery or a cable.
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opreptetr said:
You can download spare parts, in the APP you can see wether its charging via USB or AC. But i think this wont help, cause the app says AC, but it seems im charging with USB power only ( if i use the tablet, the power level decreases while charging). I dont even think the issue is caused by a broken connector, because my Problem seems to be the same, and without connected charger, the tablet discharges much faster than normal. So its more like a fast uncharging problem caused by a defective part like the battery or a cable.
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It's charging over ac ... its charging now, but only if I put it upside down and put a pen under the cable.... If I move the cable in the hole I hear little poping in there...
So this actually is possible 4 the devic to show me that its charging when it really isnt
Waranty? Unroot it and send it ? But there are some traces of fingers on a copper part, and the connector is a little bent :S will that void warranty?
Seems to me that your roommate should buy you a new Nexus 7, and he/she gets the old one (plus the headaches of dealing with returns/repairs).
good luck
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Seems to me that your roommate should buy you a new Nexus 7, and he/she gets the old one (plus the headaches of dealing with returns/repairs).
good luck
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I know -.-
But I just have that asshole in me to do it :S
Okay an update:
When using it in any position, with the cable connected:
Its discharging when screen on (or discharging slowly??? Idk) , and charging with screen off in the same position.
Im gonna charge it the whole night and I have a program that monitors chargin , so ill know how long was it charging...
Is there a setting that doesnt charge when screen on?
Or should I restore everything.. maybe an app is doing thes?
Edit:
Charging graph:
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Charging too slow?
Update:
Tonight I charged it again the same way....but it was charging slow now matter if I moved the cable or anything (with screen off)
Graph:
Help!!!!!!!!!
I charged my Nexus 7 2012 32gb yesterday morning, and took it off charge in the afternoon. I lightly used it in the evening, and it probably went to bed on ~60-70% charge. My alarm went off as usual at 07:00 this morning, and as far as I can remember, when it woke me up with that alarm the indicator in the top right was in roughly the right position for ~60-70% charge. Come back to it 5 minutes later after getting dressed, I tried to dab the power button to wake it up. That failed. I tried holding it down, trying to turn it on (it randomly turns itself off at times, for the record, so I suspected that). That also failed. I plugged it in to the charger, and it displayed a black screen with the occasional fuzzy rainbow line flickering on the screen.
In absolute panic, I googled this on my phone, and everybody recommended to take it back to PC World, apart from this one person, somewhere, suggesting to unplug it, leave it alone for a while, and try to turn it on then.
So I did that. I waited half an hour, and tried to turn it on. It successfully worked, apart from the fact that it suggested to me it had 0% charge, which is frankly impossible. Nonetheless I plugged it in, and the battery interface in Settings seems to be doing all kinds of weird things. For starters, I've charged it for half an hour, and it still is on 0%.
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The first photo shows it on its lock screen, plugged in. Note it asks for me to plug it in a charger, but in the top right it alleges that it is plugged in, due to the lightning bolt. Weird.
Take picture 2. 0% charge, same as what the notification drop down says. Then "Unknown". Wonderful. Normally,that should say charging, or not charging. But "Unknown"? That doesn't sound good.
Then picture 3. The battery usage graph. My understanding is that batteries discharge on a gradient, often a steep one, but not exactly the cliff drop here.
What on earth is going on, and do I really need to take it back to PC World, or can it be fixed?
benjimarshall said:
Help!!!!!!!!!
I charged my Nexus 7 2012 32gb yesterday morning, and took it off charge in the afternoon. I lightly used it in the evening, and it probably went to bed on ~60-70% charge. My alarm went off as usual at 07:00 this morning, and as far as I can remember, when it woke me up with that alarm the indicator in the top right was in roughly the right position for ~60-70% charge. Come back to it 5 minutes later after getting dressed, I tried to dab the power button to wake it up. That failed. I tried holding it down, trying to turn it on (it randomly turns itself off at times, for the record, so I suspected that). That also failed. I plugged it in to the charger, and it displayed a black screen with the occasional fuzzy rainbow line flickering on the screen.
In absolute panic, I googled this on my phone, and everybody recommended to take it back to PC World, apart from this one person, somewhere, suggesting to unplug it, leave it alone for a while, and try to turn it on then.
So I did that. I waited half an hour, and tried to turn it on. It successfully worked, apart from the fact that it suggested to me it had 0% charge, which is frankly impossible. Nonetheless I plugged it in, and the battery interface in Settings seems to be doing all kinds of weird things. For starters, I've charged it for half an hour, and it still is on 0%.
The first photo shows it on its lock screen, plugged in. Note it asks for me to plug it in a charger, but in the top right it alleges that it is plugged in, due to the lightning bolt. Weird.
Take picture 2. 0% charge, same as what the notification drop down says. Then "Unknown". Wonderful. Normally,that should say charging, or not charging. But "Unknown"? That doesn't sound good.
Then picture 3. The battery usage graph. My understanding is that batteries discharge on a gradient, often a steep one, but not exactly the cliff drop here.
What on earth is going on, and do I really need to take it back to PC World, or can it be fixed?
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I've got advice elsewhere and my fix was simply turning the device off, power cable out, then booting it to the Android Bootloader. From there I selected the shutdown option using the volume and power keys, and waited till I was sure it had shutdown. With the off device, I plugged in the power cable, and then turned it on normally. Problem solved.
Sorry if this is in the wrong place,
XDA has helped me out many times in the past, I've searched but found no concrete answers with this though:
I'm a truck driver and often charge my N4 on the go, probably doesn't help the battery, which for the last few months has begun to discharge in around 6 hours. I nearly bought a new battery but put it off then the phone died.
I plugged it into a in car (truck) charger on the 12v socket whilst at 5% and the charger started smoking. Pulled it out and found the phone was off and unresponsive (no surprise) with no red LEDs or otherwise.
Each time I did the following i also tried the volume down and power key or volume up and power key combinations with and without the charging cable plugged in and whilst holding down the buttons as well:
I plugged it in at home from a mains charger, nothing,overnight,nothing.
Also tried from the computer USB port,still nothing.
Bought a new battery, no change.
Bought a wireless charger in case the USB port fried: seemed to get warm but that could be the charger induction coils. Still no power on.
"Charged" the new battery externally with a spliced USB cable, nothing
"Charged" the new battery externally with a power supply at 0.5 ah and battery voltage went from 3.45 to 3.70 still no power on.
Repeated the above at 2.0 ah and put the battery voltage up to a maximum 4.5v for 10 mins - this time the backlight came on and would stay on until long press of the power button.
Then the phone got REALLY hot. I mean to the point of "something feels like its about to thermal runaway" hot. Pulled the battery and eventually it cooled down. If I plug the battery in now it gets hot on the WiFi/Bluetooth module first then spreads out over the board. As the power management chip is on the other side of the board to the WiFi module my question is: has this phone gone to hell? Is the chip overheating because its now fried or because its not getting the right power? Am I completely stupid and should get a phone that I can look after (Nokia 3210 anyone?!)
I had a N4 before this that packed up on me and I think the PMIC may have been the problem as well,only ever seen one post about it though that went unanswered.
Thanks for any suggestions, not trying to waste anyone's time or space.
Peace
UPDATE:
I'm also trying to resurrect an older N4 that had RLOD but when I tried to replace the battery I prised the battery connector off the pcb...ye. Should stick to not touching anything and not moving from one place. I soldered a pair of leads on to the contacts this evening to see if I get anything from it and I got a solid red led so thought I'd hook up more jumpers to the battery and go from there, in so doing I ripped the track off the pcb...no pad left to solder too and I cant find where the track runs to patch into it anywhere else. So I took the pcb off the phone I first posted to see what's underneath, and look what I found:
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Judging by how much black blood these chips have bled and the exit wound on the PMIC I think its fair to say I have two useless unrecoverable phones, no hope of data recovery via JTAG and no working phone either. Hope this helps someone looking to see why their phone gets so hot and won't turn on!
Hello. Recently I decided to pick up my old Nexus 4 again and try seeing what happened to it.
I was using my Nexus 4 one day and dropped it from my bed, about a foot or so, and it just cut out.
I opened it up to find out that the battery cable had snapped because I had done an earlier battery repair, and forgot that I should have let the cable slack a little bit.
A few months later I get a replacement battery, and tried booting on the phone. It would get to the lock screen and say the phone is critically low, and shut off.
TWRP said the battery was at 80% charge, but the UI was flickering a bit. I asked the XDA Discord and was told it was a storage failure.
A few more months pass by to now, and I decide to try and revive my N4. I want to see if maybe the battery was seated wrong, it could've been.
I reseated the battery and tried plugging in the phone. Now, I get a solid red light, that changes to flashing, and then nothing. or a flashing light that stays flashing.
I have not gotten past this. Is the battery toast, or is the phone toast? Can I test the phone without buying another replacement battery? Thanks.
- Honkette
You can try getting a V+ measurement from the battery to get an idea of it's condition.
If it won't charge it's cable or connectors may be damaged.
Even if the battery failed it should take some charge. Obviously it's producing some voltage but maybe not enough to boot.
If the battery seems to take a charge allow it the charge overnight and see what it's voltage level is. If it still won't boot it's either the battery or hardware damage, but doing this would give you more information to make a call.
blackhawk said:
You can try getting a V+ measurement from the battery to get an idea of it's condition.
If it won't charge it's cable or connectors may be damaged.
Even if the battery failed it should take some charge. Obviously it's producing some voltage but maybe not enough to boot.
If the battery seems to take a charge allow it the charge overnight and see what it's voltage level is. If it still won't boot it's either the battery or hardware damage, but doing this would give you more information to make a call.
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I've left it on the charger multiple times, and the phone seemingly doesn't do anything. never gets warm. I tighened down the connector screws and am using a cable I know works. I'll try to get a measurement from the battery.
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I've left it on the charger multiple times, and the phone seemingly doesn't do anything. never gets warm. I tighened down the connector screws and am using a cable I know works. I'll try to get a measurement from the battery.
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Check the other ribbon cables, port jack/pcb, mobo etc. carefully for damage or looseness.
UPDATE:
I was able to get the phone booting, but now when i try and start android it immediately says "Power Off" "Shutting Down"
now what? bad battery? it's plugged in, it shouldn't do that.
Honkette1738 said:
UPDATE:
I was able to get the phone booting, but now when i try and start android it immediately says "Power Off" "Shutting Down"
now what? bad battery? it's plugged in, it shouldn't do that.
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May be the battery as it may draw quit a bit of current when booting.
More than the charger may be able to sink.
blackhawk said:
May be the battery as it may draw quit a bit of current when booting.
More than the charger may be able to sink.
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Should i let it charge overnight and try again?
Honkette1738 said:
Should i let it charge overnight and try again?
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cable>charger>port>battery
Yeah try that. Eliminate the cheap possibilities first. Seems like a battery or power issue.
well that might explain it
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Yay!
Phones working, forgot to say this on Monday. Although the battery percentage is fluctuating after charging overnight under LOS 15 and 17, no clue why.
New battery's dead. I'll try and get another.
I know this thread's old, but i'll just update my results with this:
She's cooked.
I got the new battery, worked fine for a bit, but the battery percentage was completely jank and would go up and down. Not too long later, it doesn't even boot. I'm guessing the EMMCs fried. If I find a smashed up Nexus 4 locally i'll for sure do a mobo swap since mine's in really good shape physically.