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is there anyway to root the i9500 without the counter start ticking
or is there any pre rooted stock roms i can use without starting the counter
anyone
miahegypt said:
is there anyway to root the i9500 without the counter start ticking
or is there any pre rooted stock roms i can use without starting the counter
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Nothing yet and the flash counter in i9500 is hidden as what we understand
And triangle away not working yet will have to wait till chainfire gets it working
And even if u flash a prerooted firmware u ll increase counter
But after flashing stock again it says official we exactly donno yet whether samsung will know or not that it's modified
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Hi there!
My gf wants a S4, but here in Norway these phones are pretty expensive. So,I started searching eBay for cheaper phones.
I've found brand new phones there,but they are branded for AT&T and others.
Is there any way to debrand the phone AND keep getting official updates?
(And,she need the phone to support our langue,but i think that wouldnt be any problem? (Norwegian))
You can flash a stock rom and flash triangle away to keep official status
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Thanks for your answer!
A new SG4 at half price it is then!
I have quite the same problem...can you explain what triangle is please?thank you very much
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When you flash anything to your phone it updates the flash counter telling the phone its been modded, then a yellow triangle appears (I think) and that's what stops the updates as it shows as unofficial, triangle away removes it
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If you flash an official Samsung firmware (for example, using Odin) it shouldn't update the flash counter, should it? I thought that was only when flashing third-party ROMs and then wanting to go back to an official one.
At least that was the case on my Galaxy S2. Flashed a different official firmware, unbranded and from another region using ODIN, and the phone still shows as "original".
MercuryStar said:
If you flash an official Samsung firmware (for example, using Odin) it shouldn't update the flash counter, should it? I thought that was only when flashing third-party ROMs and then wanting to go back to an official one.
At least that was the case on my Galaxy S2. Flashed a different official firmware, unbranded and from another region using ODIN, and the phone still shows as "original".
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You could be right, probably are I've not messed around with flashing in ages
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MercuryStar said:
If you flash an official Samsung firmware (for example, using Odin) it shouldn't update the flash counter, should it? I thought that was only when flashing third-party ROMs and then wanting to go back to an official one.
At least that was the case on my Galaxy S2. Flashed a different official firmware, unbranded and from another region using ODIN, and the phone still shows as "original".
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Official Samsung firmware is signed by samsung itself, so flashing it through odin will not increase the counter and status will stay official.
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Lucius1972 said:
Official Samsung firmware is signed by samsung itself, so flashing it through odin will not increase the counter and status will stay official.
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So will youstil be able to receive ota updates? I was waiting for the newest update to come ota but didn't want to lose all my data and lose stock official status and update my flash counter... if I flashed it would all that be okay?
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calum96 said:
When you flash anything to your phone it updates the flash counter telling the phone its been modded, then a yellow triangle appears (I think) and that's what stops the updates as it shows as unofficial, triangle away removes it
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Flashin official stock firmware won't require root or trigger the triangle counter, only custom roms or rooting does this
cameracartwright said:
Flashin official stock firmware won't require root or trigger the triangle counter, only custom roms or rooting does this
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but to get OTA updates dont you have to change your CSC to the same as your ROM has?
for example, I'm from Brazil and I have ZVV S4, from my career, but if I want to debrand it I have to change the CSC to ZTO and flash ZTO rom later to have OTA updates, right?
Hi
I have a new galaxy s4 on contract (unrooted, stock). I would like to try out some of the custom roms from this forum.
This will affect my warranty, counter etc.
I can use the Rom Manager app to take a backup of my system as it is now, If I need to take my galaxy s4 back to the store for
repairs etc., would a restore of this Rom Manager backup leave the phone EXACTLY as it was when I got it? including rom counter etc?
Would it also work on Kies? (I haven't used Kies yet but I understand that it recognises that a phone has been rooted / had custom
roms applied.
thank you
firbolg
firbolg said:
Hi
I have a new galaxy s4 on contract (unrooted, stock). I would like to try out some of the custom roms from this forum.
This will affect my warranty, counter etc.
I can use the Rom Manager app to take a backup of my system as it is now, If I need to take my galaxy s4 back to the store for
repairs etc., would a restore of this Rom Manager backup leave the phone EXACTLY as it was when I got it? including rom counter etc?
Would it also work on Kies? (I haven't used Kies yet but I understand that it recognises that a phone has been rooted / had custom
roms applied.
thank you
firbolg
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You have to flash custom recovery in order to flash custom rom, it means that your binary counter will increase, you can run triangle away if you have I9505 with no new firmware, then flash your stock rom before send it to warranty
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samersh72 said:
You have to flash custom recovery in order to flash custom rom, it means that your binary counter will increase, you can run triangle away if you have I9505 with no new firmware, then flash your stock rom before send it to warranty
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Hi samersh72
thanks for the quick reply. Sorry but I'm not clear on it.
Are you saying that after flashing custom rom(s) I cannot reset the phone by restoring the Rom Manager backup I took before flashing custom roms? Why is that?
If that's the case:
I think triangle away on the gs4 only works on stock roms? Does that mean that to reset the phone I would have to flash stock rom first and then run triangle away?
Would the flashing / triangle away also remove root?
firbolg
Sir you have a lot of reading to do. Have a look in the stick thread section for guides, tutorials and explanations. There are new security measures that will render your phone out of warranty with no way of returning it to stock condition. Read well.
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firbolg said:
Hi samersh72
thanks for the quick reply. Sorry but I'm not clear on it.
Are you saying that after flashing custom rom(s) I cannot reset the phone by restoring the Rom Manager backup I took before flashing custom roms? Why is that?
If that's the case:
I think triangle away on the gs4 only works on stock roms? Does that mean that to reset the phone I would have to flash stock rom first and then run triangle away?
Would the flashing / triangle away also remove root?
firbolg
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1) root
2) flash custom recovery
3) make the nandroid backup for your stock firmware.
4) play with custom roms
5) restore your stock firmware, run triangle away, unroot, send it to warranty.
triangle away does not remove root. unroot by flashing stock.
PS. triangle away does not run on new firmwares. MH8, 6, GG ...
avoid flashing them at this moment. once flashed, you can not downgrade due to the locked bootloader
HANDSY said:
Sir you have a lot of reading to do. Have a look in the stick thread section for guides, tutorials and explanations. There are new security measures that will render your phone out of warranty with no way of returning it to stock condition. Read well.
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Totally agree!
I cannot emphasise how important reading is before you do anything! Read read and read again! It'll save you stress in the future, believe me!
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RossFixxed said:
Totally agree!
I cannot emphasise how important reading is before you do anything! Read read and read again! It'll save you stress in the future, believe me!
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Thanks all. I'm reading |
firbolg
I have galaxy s4 and wanted to reset flash counter with triangle away . After doing all the steps and I rebooted the phone the triangle away flash counter still show 9 . How come ? Why does it still show 9 and not 1 ?
Any help will be appreciated .
It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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symondo12 said:
It will most likely be because you're not using stock recovery or kernel
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So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?
ricky0001 said:
So it means if I go back to stock rom and kernel ,it will reset flash counter to zero and not if i am trying to reset on a already custom rom ?
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It won't work you must have stock kernel, stock recovery
You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.
vesu said:
You need to flash pre-rooted stock fw with odin, then use triangle away to reset counter. After that you can flash non rooted stock fw with odin to get your phone back to stock, if that is what you want.
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Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?
ricky0001 said:
Sorry for noob question . But what is pre rooted stock ? Isnt it same as samsung stock firmware which I can flash to overwrite custom rom ?
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Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.
vesu said:
Yes, its stock samsung firmware but it is already rooted, so you can use triangle away.
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So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?
ricky0001 said:
So i need to be rooted to have triangle away working ? I have already downloaded stock firmware but where do I get pre rooted stock firmware ?
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Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?
vesu said:
Make sure that you absolutely know what you are doing, I dont want you to brick your deivce or trip knox flag.
If you are still with fw that has OLD bootloader without knox flag, then you can use this one: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23050663588004454
But if you already have bootloader with knox, then I am not one to help you. After reseting my counter and flashing stock fw, I ota updated my phone to newer fw that has knox bootloader and I've been with stock since then.
Oh and btw, you have i9505 right?
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Yes I have I9505 model. I am on new bootloader as I updated my phone with MH8 firmware and got 0x1 knox warranty void. Doesnt really care about losing warranty because I have always handled my phone carefully.
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Which baseband do you have ?
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I have reset it now to 0.
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Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
Meyhemg said:
Hello everyone,
I have Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 and using CyanogenMod's installer version a few months now.
CyanogenMod's installer has A LOT of problems and I had enough of it and want to go back to stock.
Before I moved to CM I had 4.3 and also Knox bootloader so it went to 0x1 after CM's installation.
I want to ask can I go to stock 4.3 even that my Knox is 0x1?
Do I need to use TriangleAway? If so, how?
I understood that TriangleAway requires Samsung's official kernel but I have the kernel of CM now.
Anyway, what do I need to do?
Thanks in advance
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Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Drasztic said:
Find your stock rom specifically the one that is your region. If your phone is for example like mine, i9500 XSE which is the first three letters of Indonesia then get that specific stock file.
It's probably around 1.4 gigs. It downloads very slow. After that open Odin flash the stock rom, and your good to go. I've bricked numerous times and all I've done was revert back like this. No problems.
I don't know if you can put the stock rom in your custom recovery and flash it there, I haven't tried it yet just run Odin in administrator mode, insert the stock rom, go into download mode on your phone by pressing - vol and power, then click start.
Wait.
Stock.
Done,
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Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I may be wrong on this one but, if you use the auto CF root method I don't think there's a way to use the triangle method.
Therefore you're stuck on Knox. I could be wrong but I'm leaning on 70% being right..
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Meyhemg said:
Thanks, but don't I need to use TriangleAway to reset binary counter so that I'll be able to receive future updates from Samsung?
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I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
Mandark52 said:
I guess the binary counter is hidden somewhere. And for updates you can get OTA kies updates if you are havin stock recovery. One last thing Triangle away doesnt supports I9500.
All the best.
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Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
Meyhemg said:
Thanks.
I installed stock BTU and now my device status shows "Official" and also in download mode, without using TriangleAway.
Also, Kies works with my device again and recognizes it.
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Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
deandoi said:
Yes it says official but your knox counter might be already 0x01. If so, you won't be able to update your device via Kies anymore. You can always download the updates anyway.
cheers ~
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If you have a custom recovery then you wont be able to update via Kies or OTA.
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Meyhemg said:
But when I connect my phone to Kies it does recognize my phone and says I have the latest firmware and it doesn't shoe any sign that I won't be able to update through it.
I think you're mistaken with the binary counter. If the binary counter wasn't 0 and showed custom in download mode and settings only then I couldn't update via Kies.
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Oh yeah. My mistake.
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Oh yeah. My mistake.
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PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
Meyhemg said:
PHEW. I thought it's the end of updates for my device.
What I did understand is that I won't be able to use Knox app on the phone. right?
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Yep. You won't be able to use them. I disable them anyway.
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