I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
livinginavacuum said:
I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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what do you mean with locked screen?
pattern security?
i can tell from my previous droid maxx that active display works on locked by pattern or unlocked phone. and you can even choose to show the notification or just the app. (i.e. active display showing the whatsapp message you just got or just the whatsapp icon to let you know that you have a new message.)
livinginavacuum said:
I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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Yes, it works if you don't have any lock screen setup. Actually it works better (definitely faster) imo because Active Display just opens up the app right away, when you scroll up with the notification icon. Otherwise, you scroll up on the AD icon, then get stuck having to enter your password/pin, and finally the app opens up.
As others said, you do not need security for Active Display, if it works anything like the Moto X.
I use Tasker and Secure Settings to toggle PIN lockscreen when I'm on home WiFi. If I leave home, my lockscreen is reactivated, but Active Display still works. I usually don't leave my phone sit long enough to lock during the day (30 minutes), but if it does lock, swiping the active display brings you to the lockscreen to put in your PIN. It's not the same as the normal lock screen, it's like a "popup" that only shows the keypad. It does not show the clock, alarms, etc (which I think is actually just the stock lockscreen widget).
If lockscreen is off, swiping the Active Display takes you straight to the home screen.
Hope this helps.
having swapped out my GS3 (worst phone i ever owned) for a Droid Maxx last year i can say that Active Display (now Moto Display i think?) is the greatest thing ever!...I was worried about losing the LED notification back then, but active display is just plain better...
and now it does not require a lock screen setup afaik
Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Correct. If there is no lock screen, the Active Display shows the clock and notification icons. On the Moto X you can swipe down to unlock to the home screen, up to go to the app with the most recent notification, or swipe left/right to dismiss the current notifications from Active Display.
Active Display it self sort of serves as a lock screen, just a slide to unlock. If you press the physical power button the phone turns on to the home screen.
But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
livinginavacuum said:
But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
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If there was no security method selected, yes.
fury683 said:
If there was no security method selected, yes.
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Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
livinginavacuum said:
Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Me replying with "awesome" = yourself and others did a superb job explaining everything to me and making this a non-concern for me regarding potentially getting the Turbo.
But totality appreciate you giving me more input on how the Active Display works, especially the breathing aspect.
Regarding using the Active Display to wake up a non-locked screen instead of the power button, I was actually curious to see if there were others who are adjusted to using the Active Display for this purpose and now prefer it over the power button.
Otherwise, I'm now really excited to go demo it tomorrow and see for myself how it works.
Cheers.
I nearly always use the screen gesture to turn on the display, usually to the home screen.
When you move the Moto X at all (I usually just tap it so it rocks to one side on the curved back, or "twist" it slightly while it is laying on the table) the active display comes up. This is usually just to check the time. You can also hold on the unlock ring and see some of the details for the current pending notifications. For example, if Fenix has a notification, I can hold the unlock ring and see the first few bits of the notification to see if I really want to unlock for that or not.
From there I can let go (nothing happens), swipe up to open Fenix, swipe down for home screen, or swipe left/right to clear that notification from Fenix.
You will get used to AD very quickly.
I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
rotorocker said:
I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
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Yeah, little things like that are borderline panic worthy for some of us. TBH, I find that on average friends who have iPhones take a decent while longer to get back to me than those with Android phones or even Blackberries. Why? Because if they miss a call, sms, or email there's no way of knowing unless they actually physically touch there phone. At least this was the case last time I checked or of course they can always enable "LED Flash for Alerts"....smh.
So coming back to the topic - I gave it some thought and feel like this Active Display is probably an even better option than LEDs.
Instead of the LED notifications on our GS3s lighting up in different colors (the correlation of which I still haven't memorized even to this day), we'll now have Motorola's Active Display which allows for "breathing" when there are notifications. What this does is cause your screen to flash every couple of seconds with notification information. This is awesome because at a glance you'll now know exactly what's going on. So if you're like me and like it when your nearby phone let's you know you may have missed a call, sms, or email then this seems like it'll be quite useful. You also have the option of turning the "breathing" off at night along with managing which apps you wish to work with the AD.
At least I hope that is the case because I've never really spent a lot of time with a Moto X (only briefly on one of my friend's). So for those who are AD vets if I said something that's off please correct me.
This video also helped me understand how it works a little better (so hopefully it'll help you and others who are in the same boat):
This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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Don't think we'll need to be charging our Turbos at a place other than the comfort of our own personal nightstands given the battery capacity we're getting here.
Otherwise, yeah, LEDs are nice to have for when your phone is in a non-nearby situation and you wish to quickly glance at it for an update.
Hello to everyone,
I have a Note 4 N910F with stock Android 5.0.1 and i have seen some issues with the ambient display.
With this feature the phone is supposed to turn its screen on every time a notification arrives. My phone turns its screen on for some notifications like messages and viber but for other applications the screen doesnt turn on. Allthough if i press the home screen the notification is there on the lock screen.
Its kinda annoying thing because thats one of the major functions about android lollipop.
I would like to mention that its not any settings problem because all the notifications for its application are enabled on my phone.
If anyone knows if this is normal or software issue or application issue it would be very helpful. Thank you.
First of all... How did you get ambient display to work?
I don't have the option although sammobile posted a video with a lollipop rom having this feature.
I dont know if i am right but by ambient display i mean that when a notification arrives it appears on the lock screen and the screen turns on.
For me for some apps the notification is on the lock screen and the screen doesnt wake but for other apps like messages and viber both notifications and screen wake is there.
for that reason i use an app that whenever there is a new notification the screen turns on.
giannisgr1 said:
I dont know if i am right but by ambient display i mean that when a notification arrives it appears on the lock screen and the screen turns on.
For me for some apps the notification is on the lock screen and the screen doesnt wake but for other apps like messages and viber both notifications and screen wake is there.
for that reason i use an app that whenever there is a new notification the screen turns on.
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Hey. Could you share your csc files so that I can enable amibent display on my device?? Your device must have it only because the country you're in.
That's not ambient display. This function is missing in the recent release of 5.0.1 touchwiz. Sammobile did show it being there in the sound and notification menu above the daydream option but seems Samsung left it out in the release. I'm thinking that the delay with release for other European countries is due to bugs and missing items, I'm not sure. The original delay was to get tw lollipop to work with the vr headset. At present its hit and miss with notifications lighting up the screen when they arrive. Some apps do it and some don't. Ambient display is where you pick up the phone and notifications are shown in black and white for quick glance as is the case for nexus 6 lollipop or cm12. I'm hoping the rollout to other countries well have solved the missing ambient display and the priority notification not having any time option like in blocking mode on kk.
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giannisgr1 said:
Hello to everyone,
I have a Note 4 N910F with stock Android 5.0.1 and i have seen some issues with the ambient display.
With this feature the phone is supposed to turn its screen on every time a notification arrives. My phone turns its screen on for some notifications like messages and viber but for other applications the screen doesnt turn on. Allthough if i press the home screen the notification is there on the lock screen.
Its kinda annoying thing because thats one of the major functions about android lollipop.
I would like to mention that its not any settings problem because all the notifications for its application are enabled on my phone.
If anyone knows if this is normal or software issue or application issue it would be very helpful. Thank you.
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I've enabled it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...lay-note-4-t3173985/post62223793#post62223793
I wasn't able to find a solid answer on google. I have active display turned on. The 6p turns on if I pick it up off the desk (about 10-20% of the time though it doesn't turn on when picking it up). But if I have it in my pocket and pull it out, it never turns on. Is it supposed to turn on?
Yes the sneak view should come on when you make heavy moments on your phone.
Yes, Ambient Display will turn the screen on. at first it'll be in grayscale, but as soon as your finger touches the screen, it will be fully on waiting your input. you can turn ambient display off in settings if you no longer find that feature useful. I recommend turning on the LED Notification light if you prefer that over Ambient Display.
For actions, I have approach for moto display turned on.
Under display, notifications are turned off.
As I understand it, the phone should wake by wave, but _NOT_ wake up the display when notifications come in.
Instead, i'm not getting it to wake by wave. The only way it'll wake by wave is if the notifications are turned on under display (in moto assist app).
gpz1100 said:
For actions, I have approach for moto display turned on.
Under display, notifications are turned off.
As I understand it, the phone should wake by wave, but _NOT_ wake up the display when notifications come in.
Instead, i'm not getting it to wake by wave. The only way it'll wake by wave is if the notifications are turned on under display (in moto assist app).
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I've noticed that too. You're not alone.
<eye roll> Why even have the options like that. Seems they put an AND statement rather than an OR in the code.
I may have a partial workaround. The notifications wake allows you to set a time window when notifications are NOT shown. I set it from 00:00 to 23:59. This keeps the phone from waking for every notification and keeps the wave to wake functional.
So, I took this a step further.
I left the time interval in place as mentioned above (12:00am to 11:59pm). This prevents the screen from turning on for each notification alert.
I was bothered by how sensitive the prox sensors were. Bring your hand anywhere near the phone and it lights up.
Disabled the approach to wake option in moto display. The display still lights up but it now requires some form of movement such as picking it up, rotate/twist, etc. It's not perfect, but gets the job done.
I was annoyed by the approach thing always lighting up my screen too. I have found that I do like the screen coming on when I move the phone though. Just bumping it lightly is sufficient to light up the screen.