[Q] Avoiding Update - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

So my phone kept giving me the notification for the system update, and I kept postponing it. After my wife went to bed I read that I needed to root and use ES or another root file explorer to delete the update if it had been downloaded and disable/rename the APK's responsible for initiating the update. Well, because my computer is in the bedroom, and I didn't want to disturb my wife, I disabled all data connections on my phone and placed it into Airplane mode thinking the update wouldn't push through with no connection to any network.
Shortly after two this morning my phone gave a tiny beep, and I woke up startled! I looked at my phone and it was starting the download and install process! So I immediately powered down the phone and pulled the battery. My GS4 is currently off with the battery removed. Which leads me to my question.
How do I ADB into my S4 and delete the update? I'm a newb, so sorry if I posted this in the wrong place or if this has already been covered. I looked around, but couldn't find a good guide to follow. I understand some basics in the terminal, just not what mode I need to place my phone into to delete the update and where to find the update when I'm in.
Any help would be appreciated, and thank you for your time.

Chr!sG said:
So my phone kept giving me the notification for the system update, and I kept postponing it. After my wife went to bed I read that I needed to root and use ES or another root file explorer to delete the update if it had been downloaded and disable/rename the APK's responsible for initiating the update. Well, because my computer is in the bedroom, and I didn't want to disturb my wife, I disabled all data connections on my phone and placed it into Airplane mode thinking the update wouldn't push through with no connection to any network.
Shortly after two this morning my phone gave a tiny beep, and I woke up startled! I looked at my phone and it was starting the download and install process! So I immediately powered down the phone and pulled the battery. My GS4 is currently off with the battery removed. Which leads me to my question.
How do I ADB into my S4 and delete the update? I'm a newb, so sorry if I posted this in the wrong place or if this has already been covered. I looked around, but couldn't find a good guide to follow. I understand some basics in the terminal, just not what mode I need to place my phone into to delete the update and where to find the update when I'm in.
Any help would be appreciated, and thank you for your time.
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This was the thread on how to block the update, as far as I know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
Also, this was posted in that same thread:
"I downloaded the update after using kies to return to stock... Then i went back to kies and returned to the previous verson.. So u can go back"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41173152&postcount=36
And finally, this was posted early this morning as the last post in that thread:
"Dan just gave the all clear that this OTA does not effect the bootloader hacker and we are clear for updating, but still, as soon as you OTA I would refreeze your OTA files until the next one is released and cleared"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41212560&postcount=64
So basically, let the update go through, don't worry.

Solariis said:
This was the thread on how to block the update, as far as I know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946
Also, this was posted in that same thread:
"I downloaded the update after using kies to return to stock... Then i went back to kies and returned to the previous verson.. So u can go back"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41173152&postcount=36
And finally, this was posted early this morning as the last post in that thread:
"Dan just gave the all clear that this OTA does not effect the bootloader hacker and we are clear for updating, but still, as soon as you OTA I would refreeze your OTA files until the next one is released and cleared"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41212560&postcount=64
So basically, let the update go through, don't worry.
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Awesome!!! Thanks a lot!

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[FOUND] OTA Update Link!

Just got prompted for a new update here is the link
https://android.clients.google.com/packages/incrediblec/OTA_IncredibleC_Verizon_WWE_1.22.605.2_1.22.605.0_release_sign.a33bc3bf.zip
Instructions?
if you want to install this you just downlaod it put it on the root of your sd card, than rename it to update.zip than rebbot to rcovery than select apply update.zip.
Im not saying its ok to install this, as for me i am going to wait for a bot till i can look into more.
Mirror Here
Anybody without a corp account try flashing this yet?
i flashed it today and I do NOT have the CorpEmail account. I really hope this doesn't stop me from getting root.
Gimpeh said:
Anybody without a corp account try flashing this yet?
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i have, no differences at all. battery life will tell in a day or two
So are we safe letting update go thru? Or should we hold off if we want root?
I wouldn't flash it yet. It contains a recovery image and I don't know if anyone knows for certain what's different about the image.
Would this have the correct test keys?
I flashed. Not noticing anything unexpected. Im getting my incredible replaced anyway. Sounds like I'm listening to people talk underwater.
I doubt you'd notice anything different; I'm just afraid that they've closed a useful hole.
Now if this thing would just stop asking me every 20-30 minutes ... grrrr.
The update fixes the email client for business users.
The meat of the update they don't tell you about, however, is there is a new recovery image in the updater. So yeah, maybe a hole was closed.
I held down volume down button and hit power, booted into the prompt, selected "recovery mode," and all I got was a red triangle and exclamation point.
I downloaded the zip, renamed it update.zip, and put it on /sdcard using Astro.
Am I doing something wrong?
I have the exact same problem.
dont do it
Just checking to see if people successfully installed this OTA update from the mirror site link provided earlier in this thread. I think it's my only chance to go to FroYo without using RUU/wiping the phone.
I figure I can update from 1.22.605.0 with this update and then go to the FroYo thread and run that update. Does that sound like it will work?
This whole subject was coverd in another thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770091
swindelljd said:
Just checking to see if people successfully installed this OTA update from the mirror site link provided earlier in this thread. I think it's my only chance to go to FroYo without using RUU/wiping the phone.
I figure I can update from 1.22.605.0 with this update and then go to the FroYo thread and run that update. Does that sound like it will work?
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read the other thread, you need to update to 1.22.605.2 first, easy and does not lose date.
Root and OTA
I have rooted with unrevoked 3.1 but still have stock 2.1. Do I need to unroot to install the OTA or will the OTA still be pushed to my phone while I am still rooted?

A Second Update This Morning (6/28)?

OK, this is a little weird. I did the OTA update this morning and all was fine, but then just for grins, I did a manual check for updates again and goit new download!! This one is named OTA_Supersonic_1.47.651.1-1.32.651.6_releaseq2wpcb5jl7uowah9.zip. What the heck is this one? I will go ahead and install and see what happens.
Edit: maybe it just downloaded the same update again...not sure....but it's asking if I want to install it. Should I and/or shouldn't the phone know if the update has already been applied and not ask this again?
if you can get them both on your computer run a md5 sum against the files.
nenn said:
if you can get them both on your computer run a md5 sum against the files.
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The first OTA was removed after it installed (I think because I cant find it) and the one mentioned above has also disappeared after downloading but before I installed it). If anyone knows where these zip files are saved, let me know and I'll take a look.
did someone wake-and-bake this morning?
Update help
I have a rooted phone. The update downloads then when installing it starts to install, but stops and I get the screen with the red question mark. The phone then reboots and when I go check for the update its as if I never downloaded it.
Anyone have any thoughts?
DO NOT install the 2nd update. there are reposrts of users (on Android Forums) bricking their EVOs on the second update. just and FYI
Yeah some are saying it may brick your phone ... after updating and checking for a new update it states there is one.
Don't really have the time to try and see ... or else I wouldn't anyways ...

[Q] OTA 2.2.1 update manually

I am looking to download and installed 2.2.1 on my MT4G but I can't find a download link anywhere. I can only find 2.2. It tried to do a OTA but when it rebooted it never installed and when I pulled the battery an hour later it deleted the update on boot. I've performed *#*#checkin#*#* and it said succeeded but I still haven't had an update since. I don't want a custom ROM on this phone for a while since it's under warranty. I have a MT3G for that...
BTW, I did use the search feature for who ever was going to say use it, I even used this thing call Google. It was quite fascinating!
remijenkins said:
I am looking to download and installed 2.2.1 on my MT4G but I can't find a download link anywhere. I can only find 2.2. It tried to do a OTA but when it rebooted it never installed and when I pulled the battery an hour later it deleted the update on boot. I've performed *#*#checkin#*#* and it said succeeded but I still haven't had an update since. I don't want a custom ROM on this phone for a while since it's under warranty. I have a MT3G for that...
BTW, I did use the search feature for who ever was going to say use it, I even used this thing call Google. It was quite fascinating!
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Call T-Mobile customer service and verify with them that the IMEI number they have in your account is the correct one. This is the number one reason for not getting the update. I had a phone for over a month and they never changed the IMIE # until I called. The IMEI is on your box or under your battery.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
remijenkins said:
I am looking to download and installed 2.2.1 on my MT4G but I can't find a download link anywhere. I can only find 2.2. It tried to do a OTA but when it rebooted it never installed and when I pulled the battery an hour later it deleted the update on boot. I've performed *#*#checkin#*#* and it said succeeded but I still haven't had an update since. I don't want a custom ROM on this phone for a while since it's under warranty. I have a MT3G for that...
BTW, I did use the search feature for who ever was going to say use it, I even used this thing call Google. It was quite fascinating!
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[GUIDE] Forcing update 2.2.1 and re-rooting after downgrading This was on the same page you posted.... have you by chance read it?
I'd recomend using the force method...I spent almost three weeks waiting on it after being put on a "push list", verifying IMEI, and other things. Some phones "won't update" for whatever reason and they will eventually tell you to swap it. I did the manual update from the thread linked above without issue after T-Mo was unable to resolve my issue and I wasn't willing to swap for a potential refurb after having to pay full $450 retail price on the phone.
I actually did read the post about forcing the update about I don't want to have to root my phone or turn S off. I'm wanting to leave it 100% stock. The forcing the update post mentions that wifi stops working when you update and that you have to do some stuff to get it working. I actually spent almost 2 hours on the phone with CS for Tmobile and at the very end they told me that they can't push an update, that I can only do the checkin option which has been done. Most of my time was spent on hold. That's why I'm just looking for someone who happens to have a copy of the update that I can copy to what ever folder is needed to get my phone to update. They did mention it can be at the end of the push out by Google before I get another chance to update which is several months of bugs to deal with.
remijenkins said:
I actually did read the post about forcing the update about I don't want to have to root my phone or turn S off. I'm wanting to leave it 100% stock. The forcing the update post mentions that wifi stops working when you update and that you have to do some stuff to get it working. I actually spent almost 2 hours on the phone with CS for Tmobile and at the very end they told me that they can't push an update, that I can only do the checkin option which has been done. Most of my time was spent on hold. That's why I'm just looking for someone who happens to have a copy of the update that I can copy to what ever folder is needed to get my phone to update. They did mention it can be at the end of the push out by Google before I get another chance to update which is several months of bugs to deal with.
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THE update is in the post... if you want to try and copy it to every folder on your phone fine... try it... but it is in that post
and if you want you could turn s-off to flash it then turn s-on when you're done... and you won't be rooted after the update applies so you won't have to unroot
If that is the update then why does wifi stop working when you flash it? And how are you suppose to get it working again after it stops?
remijenkins said:
If that is the update then why does wifi stop working when you flash it? And how are you suppose to get it working again after it stops?
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there is more than one file posted there... The one named "PD15IMG.zip" is part of the update. It replaces the kernel and some other system files, but does not include the patches from the update, which is why wifi breaks. The one labeled The OTA is the full OTA pulled from a phone and the filename is "update.zip" I could not get the full update to flash with S-ON because it has to do some commands on the system to let it know it's going to flash becuase the phone temporarily disables the write through in place... (not sure if i explained that right). My solution is to flash the partial update which gets your kernel up to date then patch the kernel (turning s-off) and then flashing the entire update. If you're really against root you can undo all the root stuff and S-Off after the update hits... but what's wrong with root? You should still get new updates if you're still running stock, but are rooted. BUT, if you uninstall programs the updates will most likely not take (I recommend a nandroid be made before removing things so you can flash back to it get the update, make a new nandroid, then reremove software.)
Well I was actually concidering rooting updating and unrooting when my phone goes, "downloading new firmware"... It's amazing how you ***** and moan to Tmobile and things just happen. :: shrugs :: I'm happy, now I wish they would let me remove bloatware without rooting.
remijenkins said:
Well I was actually concidering rooting updating and unrooting when my phone goes, "downloading new firmware"... It's amazing how you ***** and moan to Tmobile and things just happen. :: shrugs :: I'm happy, now I wish they would let me remove bloatware without rooting.
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Why the aversion to rooting? it's really not that hard and there are at least 4 or 5 of us in irc that will walk you through it
Rooting is nasty
The problem with the description of the method for manual install of 2.2.1 is that it is misleading; the author said HIS WiFi stopped working after installing PD15IMG but should have said from the start that PD15IMG is only part of the OTA; that EVERYBODY's WiFi would stop working after installing PD15IMG; and that the entire following process is required to get to 2.2.1 if all you want is an unrooted phone with 2.2.1:
Flash PD15IMG-->temporary root-->permanent root (lot of jibberish)-->flash rest of update-->unroot
This is an intimidating process which is nowhere given in simple and complete steps but yet is often described as "simple" or "took minutes." Maybe for some, but the "simple" suckers in a lot of people who stumble along the way.
As I did; all I wanted was an unrooted phone with 2.2.1 and I had given TMo a couple of weeks to do it. A few hours into the process and a few steps beyond trashing WiFi I realized I didn't want a rooted phone and decided either to pay somebody who knows a lot more about this subject than I do to fix it or, preferably to convince TMo to give me a new one. So I went to sleep.
And guess what? At 6AM TMo said they wanted to do a firmware update, to which I agreed, and the legit OTA over-rode that damned PD15IMG and cajoled my WiFi back to life. And as far as I know Tmo doesn't have my IMEI either, because they say on their site they don't know what kind of phone I have.
And none of that snarky "if you don't know what we're talking about you shouldn't be here," either. If she didn't know she could get pregnant from it she shouldn't have done it. The whole rooting business is nasty: there are no simple comprehensive directions, there are too many ROMs and there is too little honest description of where they fail.
It would be nice also if Google would save up its incremental improvements and let them loose at longer intervals, as Apple does, to reduce the frustration of those interested in Being First. It would also be nice if the Google open system had required carriers to be able to absorb the latest updates within a fixed time, regardless of whatever crud they lay over the basic Android. The software may be "open" as far as Google and Tmo are concerned, but between TMo and me the relationship is different.
ecdy said:
The problem with the description of the method for manual install of 2.2.1 is that it is misleading; the author said HIS WiFi stopped working after installing PD15IMG but should have said from the start that PD15IMG is only part of the OTA; that EVERYBODY's WiFi would stop working after installing PD15IMG; and that the entire following process is required to get to 2.2.1 if all you want is an unrooted phone with 2.2.1:
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I'm sorry you had problems, but when doing anything that has a set of instructions it is wise to read the entire thing before starting. This will ensure you are fully prepared instead of lost in the sauce halfway through... Piss Poor Planning leads to Piss Poor Performance.

Rooted gingerbread keeps trying to download verizon update

Hey all,
I looked through the posts and wasn't able to find the answer so I am leaving this. Basically I upgraded my X from a rooted froyo to GB using the 2 files provided by P3Droid to go from the SBF froyo to GB rooted. It works great and I am having no freezing issues however the phone keeps trying to update and download the GB over the air update. I don't know how to stop this from happening or if I did something wrong. I have deleted a few of the Verizon apps that should stop any update from taking place anyway. I thank you in advance for your help.
I downloaded the "rooted gingerbread .596" from p3droid and my Droid X has never asked to update.
the only other thing I can think of is that I accidentally hit check for update on my phone but I don't think that it should have even found the gingerbread once I had installed it myself...
I just went into my settings and into "about phone". I also checked for a update and it says that it is up to date no update is necessary. So I have no idea what is going on. Only thing I can suggest is if it continues, is to SBF back to Froyo and reinstall p3Droid's rooted .596 again. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
You could let the update happen, it would go partially, fail and reboot and you're all set
Same problem with Sprint EVO 4g
I have also just installed "4.22.651.2 Rooted & De-Odexed" after accidentally dl the OTA update last week. I just hoped that installing the new ROM would eliminate the notifications to install the update but unfortunately it did not.
I did try to let it install so as to let it fail and rebooted, and the notification is still there.
Is there maybe a way to manually remove the update file?
Tecrekka said:
I have also just installed "4.22.651.2 Rooted & De-Odexed" after accidentally dl the OTA update last week. I just hoped that installing the new ROM would eliminate the notifications to install the update but unfortunately it did not.
I did try to let it install so as to let it fail and rebooted, and the notification is still there.
Is there maybe a way to manually remove the update file?
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this is the Droid X sub-forum. You will get the proper help if you post in the Evo section.
Sorry I just didn't find anything even closely related to this issue here and thought it would be best to not start a new thread. Isn't this a software issue and therefore somewhat universal?
Tecrekka said:
Sorry I just didn't find anything even closely related to this issue here and thought it would be best to not start a new thread. Isn't this a software issue and therefore somewhat universal?
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here a link to the thread for your 4.22.651.2 Rooted & De-Odexed rom in the EVO section... and there's discussion in there about your exact problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110733
Thank you very much!
I'm having the same problem. It comes and goes with no ability to clear. It always pops up after a reboot. It never actually downloads, at least that I've seen....
Does anyone know which package to freeze so the updater stops flagging?
Stop OTA Updates
Freeze the application called "Updater 2.3.3".

Did anyone else just get forced to update?

I didn't update, as I knew the new update breaks root, but ATT just force restarted my device and started the install process.
Bramsey89 said:
I didn't update, as I knew the new update breaks root, but ATT just force restarted my device and started the install process.
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A little reading would have saved you a lot of trouble.
scott14719 said:
A little reading would have saved you a lot of trouble.
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I did read jackass. It said "There is an update available." And there was only one button "Continue"
I hit the back button, nothing. I hit the power button, put it to sleep, when it came back the only option was still "continue."
Bramsey89 said:
I did read. It said "There is an update available." And there was only one button "Continue"
I hit the back button, nothing. I hit the power button, put it to sleep, when it came back the only option was still "continue."
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I meant read the threads about the update that have already been posted here in the general AT&T S4 sub forum. There are at least 2 threads about this in the top 10 threads of the first page. Not only does they discuss the OTA in detail but there are several posts that explain how to prevent it, how to stop it after it starts, and how to avoid it after the fact, etc...
I was barely able to freeze the updater in time. I should really check the forums more often. I didn't know about the update until now.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
This is how the AT&T updater works. If you keep delaying it, it will just install it automatically when you are not using the phone - like overnight or something.
scott14719 said:
I meant read the threads about the update that have already been posted here in the general AT&T S4 sub forum. There are at least 2 threads about this in the top 10 threads of the first page. Not only does they discuss the OTA in detail but there are several posts that explain how to prevent it, how to stop it after it starts, and how to avoid it after the fact, etc...
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Oh sorry I wasn't browsing the XDA forums while at work today.
I do not do updates, but can't you just go do a factory reset? Or can you get into recovery somehow, and flash a custom rom? I am just throwing things out that I would try.
I am probably wrong here, but I have never done an update, even on my G3 back in the day.
You can tell me to shut up too.
TheAxman said:
I do not do updates, but can't you just go do a factory reset? Or can you get into recovery somehow, and flash a custom rom? I am just throwing things out that I would try.
I am probably wrong here, but I have never done an update, even on my G3 back in the day.
You can tell me to shut up too.
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Well since the update appears to block root and has a new bootloader which means loki is most likely patched...and odin appears to fail right away with any phone on this new update...I would say once updated you are screwed until some new exploits come out...ao avoid the update like the plague
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Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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Now I am confused, I think he hasn't updated yet, and it keeps forcing the update, am I wrong here?
Bramsey,
Scott is right, there are blocking the OTA instructions on a few threads. It did how ever take me a good 20 minutes to find them. So if I may help you:
How to Block OTA
Prerequisites
Must be rooted!
Must have a root level file manager. I prefer ES File Explorer
Instuctions
Start root explorer app
Mount /system as read/write
Navigate to /system/app/
Rename wssyncmldm.apk -> wssyncmldm.apk.bak
Reboot
[CREDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268946 and scrosler]

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