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Hey everyone, Picked up a Vibrant last night, but ive run into an interesting issue.
The market is SOOO laggy. It takes up to 30 seconds to go between the main Market screen and the download screen (without any spinner). No data is going up or down, during that process. Also, when downloading\installing an app...it takes another 30 seconds or so after I hit install for the Okay or cancel options to come up (they came up instantly on my G1).
I cleared all my market cache, market downloader, etc and I am rooted.
Anyone w/ a suggestion or advice. This market issue is really a deal killer, as it takes like 5 minutes to install an app, let alone do several updates.
Thanks!
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
No issues here.
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zimphishmonger said:
Seriously.....no one is having issues w/ the market lagging hardcore?
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Not this bad, no.. but it does spend too much time on the loading page.
I noticed that too. it was on my Nexus too, I thought there was something wrong with the ROM, but now its on Vibrant as well. It was never this bad about a month ago.....
Same issue here, at first it was really, really bad and I had some other general lagginess. I did a factory reset and that seemed to help. It still has lag when compared to my MT3G Slide, but it definitely improved. I read somewhere that a lot of this lag is caused by the way the memory partitions are set up. Not sure about that though. Hopefully a firmware update with fix a lot of these issues. Fingers crossed.
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Well maybe its not unique to the vibrant?
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I believe this has a lot to do with the stalling issue that was reported before. I did experience the market lagginess you're talking about, but its gone now after applying the app data storage fix. This fix is a temporary solution until Samsung has something official.
Link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727279
(Sorry I couldn't post the full link because the moderator won't allow new users to post a link)
Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results? I will try the app data fix until Samsung makes something official, but at this point, the market is barely usable. I am even considering returning the phone if I cant get the results improved before the 30day grace period is up (although I really dont want to...this phone is great otherwise)
I also noticed that downloads never finish according to the market, they say "installing" indefinently, even though a "app was successfully installed" notification appeared, and the app can be run.
I have not had this issue on my vibrant, however on 3g it does take alot long to load as expected i guess, but I have not experience what you are, my vibrant is rooted as well and i have not applied the stall fix
I've noticed a little lag with the market right before I got my Vibrant using my Nexus One.
Well, glad others are having similar issues and its not just me. I am using WiFi to ensure 3g isnt causing the lag, and Ive completely wiped everything in order to try and diagnose this issue. Please post any suggestions or tips you have found helpful, thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Interestingly enough, I attempted to isolate this issue, and I found it doesnt happen on a non-rooted phone, but as soon as I root it, the issue reoccurs. Very strange, considering rooting this phone does very little to it. Anyone w/ similar results?
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I have had lagging issues, but not in the Market and certainly not as bad as you. I finally just rooted and applied the fix to move apps to NAND and my lagging issues have subsided a lot. Just wanted to let you know that I have had no Market lagging issues at all - rooted or unrooted.
hey guys...so I was playing with the phone, installed some apps here and there and went to mem info and i saw that my available memory is never over 70 mb off the 345 !!!!
this might be causing some lag and maybe overwork the processor and messing with my battery life
I moved most of the apps to the usb part and still...I reset it..went up but then drastically went down again
Im running superaosp 8.6 .... I have no idea why is this...MY nexus one there was always at least 100 mb left (used app2sd)..kinda annoying to be honest
any advice?
If you go through the list of running apps and services, is there anything out of the ordinary?
Try to close all of them and see what happens.
Greetz
PS: I have about 180mb free if I only let the vital stuff running - Google services, BLN, Maps (LocationService) and Swiftkey
I've got 156 MB free on mine.at least that's what the running services screen tells me.
However android optimizer tells me that I've got 35 MB free? What's going on? Is the stock android running services panel not showing everything?
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^^^exactly my thing...On the running services are it shows about 140 free but on thememinfo i have about 50...really weird
Another thing ...my battery usage goes :
display 40 percent
isnt that a little too high??
autorotation off, auto brightness off
Well I think on the running services it probably only shows you services that are actually running (actively). Whereas other programs (such as android optimizer) tells you the memory used by all programs that have been started at boot time.
I'm now just guessing here but many of these boot started programas might have been passivated by the Android OS onto disk so they don't really take actual RAM until you switch to any of them. Only to get passivated again after you exit them.
I get 40% usage of screen as well. It's normal, it's what takes the most. I've got auto brigthness on and it's usually quite dim. Auto-rotation is always on.
I would only get concerned if the Android System starts taking much battery use, rising above 10%. This might indicate some program misusing the system and keeping the phone awake too much.
Go Weather had such an effect on my Nexus S so I switched it off. Other programs that track your location in real time (like some weather programs... Weather Bug, but can be configured) can take a toll on the wake time of the Android System.
running services shows my device having 234mb free ram
rault18 said:
hey guys...so I was playing with the phone, installed some apps here and there and went to mem info and i saw that my available memory is never over 70 mb off the 345 !!!!
this might be causing some lag and maybe overwork the processor and messing with my battery life
I moved most of the apps to the usb part and still...I reset it..went up but then drastically went down again
Im running superaosp 8.6 .... I have no idea why is this...MY nexus one there was always at least 100 mb left (used app2sd)..kinda annoying to be honest
any advice?
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By saying "moved to the USB part" do you mean you moved most of them to the SD memory? If so, doing that will make your Nexus even slower. Memory and available app storage are two different things. I think you're confusing the two.
Nexus S and NS4G have:
1GB of app storage
16GB of SD storage
345MB of RAM
Also, having low memory available actually means your system is properly alocating all available recources. Do some reading on how androind manages memory. It's definitly not your typical Windows scenario Another thing to keep in mind is that RAM which is reported isn't accurate to what the usual "free memory" ideology is.
Awesome answer sir!!! Thank you..it def help me understand some of the stuff.still a little confusing tho
Nexus one and s are def little different from each other
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rault18 said:
Awesome answer sir!!! Thank you..it def help me understand some of the stuff.still a little confusing tho
Nexus one and s are def little different from each other
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Yeah, they are different but besides the specs same rules apply. SD storage will be slower to respond than internal app storage and ram is filled up just about the same way.
Btw, this is a Nexus S section, isn't it?
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Yes it is..thus I mentioned and compared my one to my s
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I got the new Nexus 10. Haven't installed many apps. I noticed that if I watch youtube for over an hour, youtube crashes back to main menu. Then I noticed that the entire tablet turned extremely sluggish. I went to Apps in Settings and everything wast in the process of Restarting! Also, almost the entire RAM is used leaving between 40 - 90 MB's of Ram free!
I tried to take a screen shot of the situation. But apparently there's not enough memory to save the screen shot!
So I had to take a pic of the tablet with my cellphone.
What's going on?
Details:
Brand new (less than a few weeks old)
Android 4.2.2
Non-rooted
Nothing running in "SHOW CACHED PROCESSES"
The 8 apps running continually "Restarting"
I force close the apps. But even with only Settings and 2 system apps in the "Restarting" state, the memory is still 1.2Gb used.
i thought this was independent to custom roms, as I've seen this happen on my aokp running gnex. it must be a bug in 4.2.2. hopefully it gets fixed officially, as most recent OFFICIAL builds of AOKP have already fixed the issue. something about the camera on the lock screen or something i read a while back. the only fix right now is a reboot.
I have a similar issue, I'm running nothing more than stock apps (besides Os monitor and terminal emulator) am not rooted and stock ROM.
What I have found is that surfaceflinger is just slowly using up all the free ram where it gets to a point that the devices becomes unstable.
Install os monitor and see if its the same for you?
** was trying to post a screen shot of my device showing surfaceflinger using nearly 700mbs, but I can't post links.... sucks)
VanCatRabbit said:
I have a similar issue, I'm running nothing more than stock apps (besides Os monitor and terminal emulator) am not rooted and stock ROM.
What I have found is that surfaceflinger is just slowly using up all the free ram where it gets to a point that the devices becomes unstable.
Install os monitor and see if its the same for you?
** was trying to post a screen shot of my device showing surfaceflinger using nearly 700mbs, but I can't post links.... sucks)
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no worries buddy, I got surface flinger growing in ram over less than a half hour cycle. just for my two cents, I've seen it start off with 60mb used, but these shots are a little after some web browsing and about 15 mins of sonic 4 episode 1.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_bkxTZXrpqwWGtoSTdIQUxmakU/edit
look at RSS. most of those were ran with just the tablet idling on the terminal screen. and this is also across different kernels and Roms. I hear something about aokp fixing a nasty leak but I haven't tested yet if this fixes it yet.
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no worries buddy, I got surface flinger growing in ram over less than a half hour cycle. just for my two cents, I've seen it start off with 60mb used, but these shots are a little after some web browsing and about 15 mins of sonic 4 episode 1.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_bkxTZXrpqwWGtoSTdIQUxmakU/edit
look at RSS. most of those were ran with just the tablet idling on the terminal screen. and this is also across different kernels and Roms. I hear something about aokp fixing a nasty leak but I haven't tested yet if this fixes it yet.
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It's not fixed, at least not completely. It does feel that surfaceflinger eats the memory slower on AOKP but nevertheless it still does it.
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I got the new Nexus 10. Haven't installed many apps. I noticed that if I watch youtube for over an hour, youtube crashes back to main menu. Then I noticed that the entire tablet turned extremely sluggish. I went to Apps in Settings and everything wast in the process of Restarting! Also, almost the entire RAM is used leaving between 40 - 90 MB's of Ram free!
I tried to take a screen shot of the situation. But apparently there's not enough memory to save the screen shot!
So I had to take a pic of the tablet with my cellphone.
What's going on?
Details:
Brand new (less than a few weeks old)
Android 4.2.2
Non-rooted
Nothing running in "SHOW CACHED PROCESSES"
The 8 apps running continually "Restarting"
I force close the apps. But even with only Settings and 2 system apps in the "Restarting" state, the memory is still 1.2Gb used.
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By far the most info I've seen posted on this situation has been on this Google support thread:
http://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...productforums.com/d/msg/mobile/-/GFnACv1nC0MJ
Specifically the posts by Виктор Манчев
I'm havin the same issue, running nothing more than stock apps and my free memory is 100mb, also can't use the keyboard because the lack of memory.
Should I root my nexus 10 and install a custom rom? I don't want to be having this kind of problems, I saved money to buy this **** and now it won't work, I put my faith in you damn nexus 10 .
I am experiencing the same memory leak on stock rooted 5.1.1. It is very painful to say the least. In my nexus 6 I'm having memory leak as well but there is 3 gb of ram so it's not as bad. Did anyone find a work around or a fix for this issue?
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I am experiencing the same memory leak on stock rooted 5.1.1. It is very painful to say the least. In my nexus 6 I'm having memory leak as well but there is 3 gb of ram so it's not as bad. Did anyone find a work around or a fix for this issue?
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Using Chroma ROM 5.1.1. Fast, smooth, stable, no memory leaks.
I'm going to have to try that. Thank you.
Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?
espionage724 said:
Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?
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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.
Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak. Right now the general consensus is that it cannot be avoided because it is a problem with the GPU driver. How much truth there is to this I dont know. I do know that I myself did not have performance issues or memory leaks when I was back on 4.2.1 running CM10.1, so I still feel like something in 4.2.2 introduced a memory leak.
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Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak.
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It is normal and expected for free memory to dip lower than that during normal operation. It is simply inaccurate to tell people otherwise.
I would caution against claiming something is "definitely" anything with so little solid information.
It might be that there is a memory leak, but it is much more likely to be a user app than a kernel memory leak until there is hard data saying otherwise. As of now there is only one highly subjective user report.
During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.
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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.
Just my personal experience, but I have owned my N10 since December and frequently let mine idle for days and have never come across this issue yet. Memory on mine is usually above 600MB everytime I check it in the Apps setting, I don't think I've ever seen it go under 100 since I've owned it, and I do go in there a lot to force stop certain things that autostart. I am leaning more towards what ZanshinG1 said that its a rogue app installed thats eating it
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During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.
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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.
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Nope, nothing was open at the time, and had a normal wallpaper (non-Live).
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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For the record surfaceflinger will eat about 100 megs per hour of video when you watch YouTube through chrome. I've duplicated this on stock, CM, mrrobinson AOKP, and raspbean. At about 600 megs the tablet will start misbehaving, closing apps, being sluggish, keyboard won't come up in chrome when you go to the address bar, etc. If you can stand to wait it will eventually reboot usually when idle in my case. Oddly enough the YouTube app doesn't produce the same results on the same video.
The usefulness is debatable. The facts are not.
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Hopefully ROM dev's will add some newer AOSP commits to their ROMs too, such as:
Fix a minor leak in dvmCreateInlineSubsTable (commit to aosp)
minor leaks caused by failed initialization in JNI_CreateJavaVM (commit to aosp)
Fix a minor bug in dvmCreateInterpThread (commit to aosp)
Fix some leaks in VfyBasicBlock & BitVector (commit to aosp)
But it is probably a rogue app.
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But it is probably a rogue app.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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I don't watch videos from Chrome, and it wasn't open at the time either (I may of opened it earlier before I noticed the memory leak, but I know I swiped it away from Recents when I was done with it). I didn't use the YouTube app either.
Had it occur again, although it wasn't "as" severe since I was able to load a game and take screenshots this time; performance was definitely slower though...
Running Apps:
Cached Apps:
Maybe run PS in terminal the next time and grab a screenshot. Then after reboot or return to normal do it again and compare usage?
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I have my tablet reboot every night at 4am with Tasker-Secure Settings plugin. Maybe not a fix for the issue at hand, but enough to make this problem go away permanently and reliably.
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
lvnatic said:
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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Wow. Talk about trash talk.
I've never ahd this issue on AOKP or CM, have on PA... I did enjoy Eos when I used it but found RootBox had the features I needed. Then again... I reboot every few nights typically. My mom leaves her Nexus 7 on for weeks on end with no issue, but its not a 10.
lvnatic said:
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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I don't consider rasbeanjelly trash...
I think I've run into this bug once, after a couple days of usage, likely mostly inactive without charging. I noticed that everything I tried to do was really sluggish and once I saw all the apps restarting in the built-in task manager, I figured something was seriously borked, so I rebooted the tablet and it was back to normal. Given all the other stability problems others have reported with this tablet, I'm glad just a very occasional reboot like this is the worst of my problems. :victory: I'm running stock Android 4.2.2, with only a handful of apps installed, probably more default apps uninstalled than apps added.
ive been using the apps from this guy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...terprise&hl=en
ram booster and cache apps to sd booster
significant performance increase. im talking about no slowdowns and easy multitasking
after unlocking, installing lollipop and rooting
pretty significant increases. cannot complain at all.
dont have any slowdowns on my other 2 devices (n7 2013 and n6 on vzw) so cant compare to those but this fixed my shield lollipop issues
he has a lot of other products as well but i havent used them.
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Woops Sorry. Here's a link to the ram Booster app then just click more apps by gejos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.rambooster
I remember the good old days of Eclair when these things used to be commonplace.
tl;dr if you're actually running one of these things and you're seeing a large and measurable change... something's not quite right.
Yes. Lollipop update. Tried factory reset, deleting certain apps. Nothing seems to help until I tried the ram Booster.
Ermm. Sounds like placebo. This isn't android gingerbread anymore and these types of tweaks are largely useless... On our high end device anyways.
If you do a search on xda, I am not the first person to mention these apps specifically. I agree that these things are mostly garbage but this one is different. I urge whoever is having performance issues with lollipop to try this.
Are you using the donate version with more options? I think I tried this app before and it didn't fix my slowdowns, but I will try again. I don't have SD card so I can't try the other cache to SD-app.
The slow downs and memory leak are so frustrating, I have to restart a couple of times every day to be able to play for an example Simpsons Tapped out. I use the same apps on my ASUS Tegra 4 tablet with 4.4.2 and it feels so much faster and there is no need to restart it every day.
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Are you using the donate version with more options? I think I tried this app before and it didn't fix my slowdowns, but I will try again. I don't have SD card so I can't try the other cache to SD-app.
The slow downs and memory leak are so frustrating, I have to restart a couple of times every day to be able to play for an example Simpsons Tapped out. I use the same apps on my ASUS Tegra 4 tablet with 4.4.2 and it feels so much faster and there is no need to restart it every day.
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nope, regular free version. i didnt even know the donate one had more options
Neither the donate or free version should provide any noticeable difference besides maybe more battery drain.
Thanks for the helpful feedback. Please try the app first and then you can comment.
I have been running the app for 5 days now, can't say I see any difference, I still have the memory leak (or what it is that causes the need to restart once or twice a day). Still have the UI slowdowns too.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
I'm just going to venture a guess that any task killer that is significantly improving your battery life is probably rooting out apps that are falling into Lollipops memory holes. So the battery savings are accidental...
This is not how Android is supposed to run. This hasn't been the way Android has run since 2.2 or before, the last time task killers were all the rage.
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