Considering our model numbers are different and our bootloaders are unlocked we seem to be making progress here in these forums but continue to have people get mixed up with their AT&T variant and ours.
This consistently leads to comments about how something won't work or to not do anything since our bootloaders are locked when they aren't because we have the canadian variant.
Just a request to avoid confusion between the two devices and parties.
kylecore said:
Considering our model numbers are different and our bootloaders are unlocked we seem to be making progress here in these forums but continue to have people get mixed up with their AT&T variant and ours.
This consistently leads to comments about how something won't work or to not do anything since our bootloaders are locked when they aren't because we have the canadian variant.
Just a request to avoid confusion between the two devices and parties.
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I would be in favour of this!
kylecore said:
Considering our model numbers are different and our bootloaders are unlocked we seem to be making progress here in these forums but continue to have people get mixed up with their AT&T variant and ours.
This consistently leads to comments about how something won't work or to not do anything since our bootloaders are locked when they aren't because we have the canadian variant.
Just a request to avoid confusion between the two devices and parties.
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Agreed. For a while, most of the discussion of the Canadian variants were in the general section of the international S4 forum, which is not really the same phone.
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Once the bootloaders are unlocked its the same device... Why a different forums?
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
By segregating forums it's not going to help development later when the bootloader are unlocked for the AT&T version.
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howtomen said:
Once the bootloaders are unlocked its the same device... Why a different forums?
sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
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I thought they had different radios?
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+111111
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+111111
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We now have a recovery for 1337M it allows us to return to everything stock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41129867#post41129867
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Marcos60rr where is your i337 from?
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Marcos60rr where is your i337 from?
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Claro Puerto Rico my carrier uses canadian variants for they're lte plans my actual firmware is i337mumuamdj
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Iam from puerto rico too aguadilla i hace the sameone too from claro i installed twrp and rooted
SlimJ87D said:
By segregating forums it's not going to help development later when the bootloader are unlocked for the AT&T version.
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Here's why, there are 5+ mobile operators in Canada using the same phone with the same unlocked everything. In the America you have 3 different variants depending on the carrier. By segregating we are less likely to cause confusion between us and one of the plethora of variants in America, less bricked devices and better specific support for said device. To have a canadian subsection for any and all Canadian phones would be beneficial to the community and development progression as we could continue to develop and create without the risk of being detrimental to your community in its current state.
+1 from Mexico (Telcel)
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kylecore said:
Considering our model numbers are different and our bootloaders are unlocked we seem to be making progress here in these forums but continue to have people get mixed up with their AT&T variant and ours.
This consistently leads to comments about how something won't work or to not do anything since our bootloaders are locked when they aren't because we have the canadian variant.
Just a request to avoid confusion between the two devices and parties.
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theo1998 said:
I thought they had different radios?
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They do. Not to mention our LTE band is different here, so we can't just flash AT&T custom ROMs without flashing our own Canadian carrier branded radios.
kylecore said:
Here's why, there are 5+ mobile operators in Canada using the same phone with the same unlocked everything. In the America you have 3 different variants depending on the carrier. By segregating we are less likely to cause confusion between us and one of the plethora of variants in America, less bricked devices and better specific support for said device. To have a canadian subsection for any and all Canadian phones would be beneficial to the community and development progression as we could continue to develop and create without the risk of being detrimental to your community in its current state.
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Most likely everything will be interchangeable once the bootloaders are unlocked and they will be by the end of this month.
If nothing is interchangeable or the devices prove to be completely incompatible in many ways then separate them.
At this point, if there was no point in separating the forums, and a Dev made an awesome ROM, he would probably receive a lot more donations if the forums are kept together if and ONLY IF they are compatible development wise.
Waiting 3 weeks isn't going to kill you.
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Claro Puerto Rico my carrier uses canadian variants for they're lte plans my actual firmware is i337mumuamdj
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Nice, so our i337s are bootloader unlocked! I have same one from Claro PR
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SlimJ87D said:
Most likely everything will be interchangeable once the bootloaders are unlocked and they will be by the end of this month.
If nothing is interchangeable or the devices prove to be completely incompatible in many ways then separate them.
At this point, if there was no point in separating the forums, and a Dev made an awesome ROM, he would probably receive a lot more donations if the forums are kept together if and ONLY IF they are compatible development wise.
Waiting 3 weeks isn't going to kill you.
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As mentioned, the radios are different and we use different LTE bands. Any ROM made for the AT&T version would require us to flash a Canadian modem at the least.
Anyway, when all the major carriers with 95%+ of the subscribers in this country are using the exact same phone, I think our model # should at the very least be put in the title of one of the forums. That would keep posts concentrated better instead of being spread between this forum and the international forum.
Then again, our phone is just as much an I9505 as it is an I337. Just different radio.
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prking07 said:
Nice, so our i337s are bootloader unlocked! I have same one from Claro PR
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Yes its unlocked diferent than our i747m its locked
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Will the roms in this forum work woth the U.S. sprint model of the gs4?
Also what is the model name for the sprint gs4 so I know what to look for when looking for compatible roms (I.g. my current tmo note 2 is called T889)?
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You'd be better off waiting until there is a Sprint subforum. That forum will have everything that is for the sprint version. I'm not sure what the model number is, I haven't really searched for it.
It will be SPH-L720
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metalfan78 said:
You'd be better off waiting until there is a Sprint subforum. That forum will have everything that is for the sprint version. I'm not sure what the model number is, I haven't really searched for it.
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Yeah thats what I figured. I assume these roms are for the international version with the eynos octa 5
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Your correct the international roms wont work on any of the U.S. s4s varients. Qualcomm vs. Exynos roms are incompatable. The qualcomm version already has development started.
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Your correct the international roms wont work on any of the U.S. s4s varients. Qualcomm vs. Exynos roms are incompatable. The qualcomm version already has development started.
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Where could I find development for the snapdragon variant?
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nemesis93 said:
Where could I find development for the snapdragon variant?
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Type xda 9505 model.
chery2k said:
Type xda 9505 model.
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I've done that already but wasn't able to find a subforum for the GT-i9505?
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nemesis93 said:
I've done that already but wasn't able to find a subforum for the GT-i9505?
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There will be a subforum not now but very soon.
Doing prep work for CM on the L720. Hopefully will get something going early to mid next week. (Rough probably but still moving forward)
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Request to have a separate rom development thread for note 8.0 LTE/4G.
Thanks
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Yes, I agree with you.
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I think once its widely available they will split it off like they did for the N7 3G. It probably wouldn't hurt to have the GT-N5100 thread also.
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Yes, I agree with you.
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+1 Y(^o^)Y
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Request to have a separate rom development thread for note 8.0 LTE/4G.
Thanks
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Hmmm .... no respond from moderators.
Does Note 8 LTE not going to have any dev support? Does LTE based ROM more troublesome that the 3G counterparts?
Holywolf said:
Does Note 8 LTE not going to have any dev support? Does LTE based ROM more troublesome that the 3G counterparts?
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My bet is that development comes in full force. Att is offering such a sweet bundle deal on the N1520 that its hard to resist picking it up when you buy either the Note2 or the SGS4. Speaking of those two LTE devices, look at all the developent they are getting!
Patience...
As for separate threads:
I wouldn't bet on it until after the proliferation of development makes it hard to navigate within the existing shared thread.
Edit:
My mistake, looks like the Note8 that att has a deal on is the I467 not the N5120 (just checked in About Device).
Where are the N5120's coming from?
agree!
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Request to have a separate rom development thread for note 8.0 LTE/4G.
Thanks
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+1
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N5120 is 3g + LTE model for around the globe (minus US, which is in a totally different world of their own)...
N5100 is 3G model
N5110 is wifi only model
I would love that too. Looked through the dev forum and not a single custom kernel for n5120.
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N5120 is the only model selling in Hong Kong.
+1 from me also, problem is that we need some devs to own a LTE-device and then also develop for it. A thread is good and all, but it wont magicaly make ROMS and Mods appear
And hopefully now that Samsung released 4.2.2 for the N5120 we might see some more things pop up
Guys, there is a mod post for requests in the main forum. Please post there as well.
+1
just got this model as well over the weekend. been enjoying the ride so far.
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N5120 is the only model selling in Hong Kong.
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In singapore, we only sell 5110 or 5120 model... haha... there isnt any 5100 model for us....
On a side note, i would strongly recommend all users of 5100 + 5120 models to buy Sony SBH52... its not released yet, but it would make a great complement to our device...
Qualcomm vs Exynos... We have all seen exynos is easier to unlock (note 2)...
But will the VZW GN3 get unlocked?...
Will you wait for the Developer Edition?
Please share your thoughts below.
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bajasur said:
Qualcomm vs Exynos... We have all seen exynos is easier to unlock (note 2)...
But will the VZW GN3 get unlocked?...
Will you wait for the Developer Edition?
Please share your thoughts below.
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How does one go about acquiring a developer edition?
Look at the Verizon SGS4, I would say no.
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How does one go about acquiring a developer edition?
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They have been dropping dev editions for the latest devices and I'm sure they will announce the dev edition note 3 a few weeks after the initial release. Check the forums and android news websites in the coming months
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I would very much like someone with more knowledge than most of us combined to chime in on this topic.
Why is it an impossibility to somehow use the dev edition to assist in the unlocking of the retail edition?
The answer must be simple Or it would have been done long ago with the S4
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We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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This
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suzook said:
We don't have any idea if there will be a Dev edition.
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Exactly.
My personal guess would be there is no dev edition released, but I am only guessing like everyone else here.....
Im guessing there will be a dev edition ther is for the s4 why not the note 3. What has me curious is a read a thread about chip bending or binary bending which changes a chip into dev mode basically. Im only read the thread and have ben wondering this since. Plausable? What is the physical difference between dev and regular note 3
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I'd be pretty confident that there will be a developer edition. My question is: will there be anything developed for it, since the main phone will most likely remain locked or, at best, be only partially unlocked? I think it's gonna be developer phones or bust for these Verizon Samsungs from now on. We should start dedicated developer phone threads.
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Here's hoping they release one. I want a Note 3, but I'm at the point where I simply won't buy a phone with a locked bootloader.
Any confirmed benefits of the retail VZW GN3 vs. the Dev Edition for VZW?
Phandroid reports the developer edition website is up and says "coming soon".
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Well, here's the page. Doesn't really confirm anything, but it gives us something to drool over...
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Well, here's the page. Doesn't really confirm anything, but it gives us something to drool over...
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It also says 32gb! This seems to be the norm for Verizon developer galaxy phones.
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Only AT&T and Verizon have locked bootloader. So there's already a number of rom option. I couldn't wait and already have a n3 so I hope to hear a release schedule before I have to return this bad boy.
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Dear Mods,
I know I'm not alone when I say this, but we would like our own forum for our Canadian variant of our device. As our device is significantly different from other variants, and nobody likes specific projects for N900W8 to be jumbled along with ROMs for N900 or N9005 (as they can't be installed on a W8 device without major issues), I would like to start a poll to gather people who would like a clean forum, not a forum with three different variant's ROMs jumbled up together that aren't cross flashable.
Also asking questions and finding solutions is easier when the entire forum uses the same device, so a solution for the specific device is much more convenient in the same forum!
Also go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46446026&postcount=11600 to like my post and also post a quick reply saying you want the N900W8 as well!
Thanks a lot!
Nicholas
Please!!
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This sure would make things a lot easier that's for sure...especially once things really get going with development and once our phones have roms released
I agree with this idea!
Yes please !
Another yes. It's always been jumbled together with AT&T and then i have to manual filter to find items that are applicable.
+1 On this. Right now I'm reading on different sub forums to find out which model my phablet actually is compatible with.
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Agreed we need our own forum since the cross flashing as seen with s3 and s4 arent going to apply with N3 so it would seem.
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flashing Roms even from other versions of the same model don't work. We definitely need our own board.
Woolios said:
+1 On this. Right now I'm reading on different sub forums to find out which model my phablet actually is compatible with.
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Just be aware that it looks to not be compatible with any if the ones with their own forum as of yet....maybe with custom roms or a custom installer but not now
Canadian Note 3 Forum for Prime Minister 2013!
Mr Speaker
Does this mean all Canadian note 3 are the same even wind mobile version?
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htc fan89 said:
Does this mean all Canadian note 3 are the same even wind mobile version?
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Short answer is no...
We just don't want to be lumped into the U.S.A providers.
AvatarReborn said:
Short answer is no...
We just don't want to be lumped into the U.S.A providers.
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It's because the model from bell also has w8, so was thinking maybe all Canadian models are the same
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htc fan89 said:
It's because the model from bell also has w8, so was thinking maybe all Canadian models are the same
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Bell/telus..rogers/fido probably.
Wind runs on diff frequencies. ..people on wind dont even get LTE. having this phone and no lte is like having a ferrrari but you cant take it out of first gear!
At the very least wind users will need to flash another baseband to run a rogers or bell ROM
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I'm just wondering, would it be possible to eventually kind of convert the Canadian Note 3 variant into an American variant? I don't think I've read about any hardware differences between the two variants. Also, I can't imagine there would be too much development for just the Canadian Note 3 alone (or has there been an active developer community for Canadian devices previously?).
jeeholim said:
I'm just wondering, would it be possible to eventually kind of convert the Canadian Note 3 variant into an American variant? I don't think I've read about any hardware differences between the two variants. Also, I can't imagine there would be too much development for just the Canadian Note 3 alone (or has there been an active developer community for Canadian devices previously?).
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For your information, the Galaxy S4 have his own section in the forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257
As you can see, there is plenty of roms and folks exchanging informations, tips and bugs for the same device, which make sense for me
Just remind every one, not only Canadian is using N900W8, N900W8 is a very large group. Mexico, Many South America country is using N900W8 too.
Plz develop this model phone.
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For your information, the Galaxy S4 have his own section in the forum :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2257
As you can see, there is plenty of roms and folks exchanging informations, tips and bugs for the same device, which make sense for me
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I think that is because at&t is SGH-i337 and rogers/bell is SGH-i337M; T-mobile is SGH-M919, Wind is SGH-M919V.
But now the model name is big difference, dont know if the hardware has different or is bootloader lock or not difference.
qingmui said:
Just remind every one, not only Canadian is using N900W8, N900W8 is a very large group. Mexico, Many South America country is using N900W8 too.
Plz develop this model phone.
I think that is because at&t is SGH-i337 and rogers/bell is SGH-i337M; T-mobile is SGH-M919, Wind is SGH-M919V.
But now the model name is big difference, dont know if the hardware has different or is bootloader lock or not difference.
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Yeah that's why there's a / in the title too
That raises a question too. Is the Wind version of W8 actually the same as the Robellus W8? Even though numbers match up, we won't know till we can compare the stock ROMs with each other.
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Are us At&t custom ROM users going to have to move on to greener pastures with this Knox bs or will someone unlock the s4, note 3, and s5 (when it comes out) bootloaders at some point? Just curious if anyone has any insight on this, cause if we can't unlock it I'm definitely moving on to another carrier, personally. Or at least I'll buy international unlocked or Google editions in the future. Thanks and f at&t and Knox!
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Are us At&t custom ROM users going to have to move on to greener pastures with this Knox bs or will someone unlock the s4, note 3, and s5 (when it comes out) bootloaders at some point? Just curious if anyone has any insight on this, cause if we can't unlock it I'm definitely moving on to another carrier, personally. Or at least I'll buy international unlocked or Google editions in the future. Thanks and f at&t and Knox!
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Bootloader being locked has nothing to do with KNOX. And AT&T has already released an official statement a while back that said they plan on locking ALL carrier branded phones in the future.
I understand that they are locked. Now can you actually answer my question on whether or not someone will figure out how to unlock it?
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How would someone know that? There have been Bounty threads out for awhile and no luck. If they are still active you can follow them--
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I understand that they are locked. Now can you actually answer my question on whether or not someone will figure out how to unlock it?
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They lock them to keep people from hard bricking their devices. If it stinks...buy a Nexus or GPE device
I think we have to wait a while till the s4 becomes old news. Then att will care less about it and there will be less updates and more time for someone to find a crack or leak for the bootloader unlock and the carriers will care less
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I think I'll just be done with at&t then probably. It's too bad that companies won't allow you to do whatever you want with YOUR phone. That's why I never got an iPhone! I actually don't mind running stock TW but I don't want to be stuck with it forever. Thanks everyone!
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whmgreen said:
I think I'll just be done with at&t then probably. It's too bad that companies won't allow you to do whatever you want with YOUR phone. That's why I never got an iPhone! I actually don't mind running stock TW but I don't want to be stuck with it forever. Thanks everyone!
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Sad part is until it's paid off it not really your phone. Since they have a warranty for a year to cover issues it only makes sense. Now if they would provide an unlock after that warranty is up and the contract is settled then it would make sense.
Att will never have a unlocked device again, watch and see.....
And these are the reasons I'm going to be moving over to T-Mobile or nexus devices. Just tired of AT&T all together.
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Another view:
I will stay with ATT as Verizon is too expensive and TMO in my area has sh**ty reception. ATT has been perfect for me in that area.
Also, I have been a heavy flasher for almost 4 years. The phones now are powerful enough that flashing roms is not that important to me as it once was. If I can get root with Xposed/Gravity Box/3Minit I am good. Plus there are fairly good backup apps now that Nandroiding isn't that critical.
I don't see much more coming my way, after this year, in improvements I am interested in. Something like a Note4 or S5 would be as far as I care to go.
All IMHO of course
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I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
~wolverine~ said:
I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
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I'd go to the note 3 if I swapped to T-Mobile. I'm honestly tired of the s4 and the features don't wow me anymore plus the note 3 would be better in spec wise as well.
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~wolverine~ said:
I thought that I read somewhere on a T-Mobile thread that the latest update locked the bootloader on the S4. Was that incorrect?
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The i337 bl was always locked but the loki-doki exploit bypassed sig check and allowed us to flash recoveries and kernels. With mf3 they closed that loophole by "blowing the Q-Fuse", whatever that is. Googled it but forgot what I read.
And now you are limited to flashing mostly TW roms <4.4. No custom recoveries/kernels.
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The i337 bl was always locked but the loki-doki exploit bypassed sig check and allowed us to flash recoveries and kernels. With mf3 they closed that loophole by "blowing the Q-Fuse", whatever that is. Googled it but forgot what I read.
And now you are limited to flashing mostly TW roms <4.4. No custom recoveries/kernels.
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I'm not talking about a I337 from AT&T. I was talking about a T-Mobile M919 or do they use the exact same firmware?
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I'm not talking about a I337 from AT&T. I was talking about a T-Mobile M919 or do they use the exact same firmware?
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lol ok, in that case i have no idea