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Samsung FTW

So I do a lot of reading on this forum but rarely post.
Last night, my phone fell out of my hands while I was sitting outside the hottub and went right into it. It was like how something falls to the bottom of the ocean in a movie. I got it out right away dried it off, took out the battery and sd card and looked at it.
It seemed that no water got into the system at all. The phone works just as it did when before the dive. The only thing that is touchy is the charger now, but oh well.
Samsung ftw

My friend dropped his Incredible in tea. He thought the same thing, but now, the phone reboots itself when it gets warm at all, and if it gets cold, the touchscreen becomes unresponsive. It was stupid to turn it back on. You should have immediately stuck it in dry rice and never turned it on, as that can prevent damage from happening.

Yeah, regardless of manufacturer/model, never turn a dunked phone on until you're 100% sure it's as dry as you can possibly get it.
Pull the battery and SD card, then shove the whole mess into a bag of white rice for AT LEAST 24 hours, more if you can. The longer it sits in the rice with no power, the more likely it is to survive the dunking.

Nah dehumidifier is better lol
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Anyone know of any cell phone shops that have a wet phone recovery service?
I would place the phone inside a small pressure vessel and pull a deep vacuum for 15-20 mins (or until I archived 1000µm). Then break the vacuum with dry nitrogen. Repeat 3x's.
This is the method for pulling moisture out of refrigeration systems and it does work well.
I would think a small phone shop could easily get $50 a pop to save someones phone.
Hope yours stays happy! good luck

Hair dryer.
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dw77x said:
Anyone know of any cell phone shops that have a wet phone recovery service?
I would place the phone inside a small pressure vessel and pull a deep vacuum for 15-20 mins (or until I archived 1000µm). Then break the vacuum with dry nitrogen. Repeat 3x's.
This is the method for pulling moisture out of refrigeration systems and it does work well.
I would think a small phone shop could easily get $50 a pop to save someones phone.
Hope yours stays happy! good luck
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I would worry about the screen in a vacuum.
If it were my phone though, I would completely disassemble it and make sure I got all of the water out that way, maybe hit it with some 99% isypropal to help get any water out from under chips and in tight places, and let it dry for a few days in silica beads.

A hairdryer is a horrible idea. It can't pull the water out. On the contrary, it's more likely to force the water into worse places.
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A hairdryer is a horrible idea. It can't pull the water out. On the contrary, it's more likely to force the water into worse places.
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And cook the inside components. hehe forgot the /sarcasm tag. I'm not stupid
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I'm not so sure about the phones, but my samsung led tv survived a house fire... Pretty proud of that little purchase.
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And cook the inside components. hehe forgot the /sarcasm tag. I'm not stupid
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I know that, but there are people that will blindly follow anything they read on these boards, and I've seen a hairdryer suggested before.

AlexDeGruven said:
Pull the battery and SD card, then shove the whole mess into a bag of white rice for AT LEAST 24 hours, more if you can. The longer it sits in the rice with no power, the more likely it is to survive the dunking.
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Rice is a good option and works well, but the small silica packets that are used as desiccant work even better and can be purchased very cheaply.
Putting your phone in some sort of vacuum or near-vacuum is probably a bad idea because the hardware was likely not designed to withstand such conditions.
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Ok guys update.
So its been what a couple of days now, and my phone is working pretty good. all the main things work. the only thing that is a little touchy is the charger, and it keeps saying usb connected, but i can live with that.

I uses to work at a sign shop and my bosses kids were terrible about throwing phones in water so he found the little pink water detector strips so I know if you do that you can put it on and trade out your phone
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Golgotha theskull said:
I uses to work at a sign shop and my bosses kids were terrible about throwing phones in water so he found the little pink water detector strips so I know if you do that you can put it on and trade out your phone
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Probably super illegal or at least in violation of like everything in the contract you sign about insurance and replacements. Lol
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sageDieu said:
Probably super illegal or at least in violation of like everything in the contract you sign about insurance and replacements. Lol
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I second that LOL.
Anyways, I just want to say Samsung FTW because this phone has just been amazing in so many ways. Abilities to super customize in any way, shape and form, awesome screen...I was VERY hesitant on buying an all touch screen phone. Coming from a Blackberry Tour I was very use to a real keyboard and buttons. Yes this phone has it's up's and downs, but all in all the pros really out weigh the cons.
I'm in absolute NO rush to get a new phone any time soon. I love my Fassy

Water damaged Incredible

A question for some of the folks in xda land.I have a friend who has an incredible that she dumped in the toilet and it half works on its own whim.She was actually told by someone to put it down in a bag of rice in an attempt to draw out the remaing moisture.Does this really work and if so how long should she leave it in the bag of rice?I had never heard of this and thought I would ask.
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bob24260 said:
A question for some of the folks in xda land.I have a friend who has an incredible that she dumped in the toilet and it half works on its own whim.She was actually told by someone to put it down in a bag of rice in an attempt to draw out the remaing moisture.Does this really work and if so how long should she leave it in the bag of rice?I had never heard of this and thought I would ask.
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It sorta works. There's better ways to do it faster... as in rice can take a week or two at least.

loonatik78 said:
It sorta works. There's better ways to do it faster... as in rice can take a week or two at least.
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I would appreciate any advice you could give.My friend is on a very limited income,single with 3 kids so I'm trying to help her avoid getting another phone.She's had that phone since about a week after its release and it still looks like it just came out of the box.Very well taken care of except for the toilet incident.
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I've done the bag of rice technique before with success. Not with an Incredible, a Samsumg feature phone, but it does work.

crondable said:
I've done the bag of rice technique before with success. Not with an Incredible, a Samsumg feature phone, but it does work.
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Any idea how long to leave it in bare minimum?
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A while back I dropped my phone into my bowl of cereal and it was somewhat damaged by the milk. It was never completely submerged, though, so I think damage was minimal. The charging light wouldn't turn off, but it seemed OK otherwise.
Anyway, I took off the battery cover, removed the battery and SD card and started by using a towel to soak up as much moisture as possible. Then, I grabbed a small Tupperware and poured in a bit of rice. I placed the phone (just the phone, no cover, battery, or SD card) in and poured some more rice in (enough to cover the phone). I snapped the lid on and left it alone for a day. When I put it all back together and turned it on, everything was fine and phone is still going strong.
Depending on the extent of damage I'd think she might need to leave it in longer than a day, but I'm not sure. Her best bet would probably be to leave it as long as she is able to.
Good luck!
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Wisegy84 said:
A while back I dropped my phone into my bowl of cereal and it was somewhat damaged by the milk. It was never completely submerged, though, so I think damage was minimal. The charging light wouldn't turn off, but it seemed OK otherwise.
Anyway, I took off the battery cover, removed the battery and SD card and started by using a towel to soak up as much moisture as possible. Then, I grabbed a small Tupperware and poured in a bit of rice. I placed the phone (just the phone, no cover, battery, or SD card) in and poured some more rice in (enough to cover the phone). I snapped the lid on and left it alone for a day. When I put it all back together and turned it on, everything was fine and phone is still going strong.
Depending on the extent of damage I'd think she might need to leave it in longer than a day, but I'm not sure. Her best bet would probably be to leave it as long as she is able to.
Good luck!
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I really appreciate your help.She depends on that phone and is on a limited budget.Had got it in better times.Thanks again.I'm open to all suggestions.
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bob24260 said:
Any idea how long to leave it in bare minimum?
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A week at the minimum. Also tell her to do not touch it while it is in the rice, and especially not to turn it on.

N-Forced said:
A week at the minimum. Also tell her to do not touch it while it is in the rice, and especially not to turn it on.
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Genuinely appreciate it!
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Commercial desicants with a moving air flow works the best. I used to use these reusable desicant packs for storing guns. Those things would suck moisture out of a popcorn fart.

loonatik78 said:
Commercial desicants with a moving air flow works the best. I used to use these reusable desicant packs for storing guns. Those things would suck moisture out of a popcorn fart.
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+1 I worked for a shipping company a while back and I took some 6pack desiccants because my friend dropped her iPhone in the toilet. She put it in a plastic back with the desiccants and left it in front of a fan over night and it worked in the morning. About 8 hours. Plus if you can take the back off and remove the battery place the phone on top of the pack(battery side down) it should speed it up.
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loonatik78 said:
Commercial desicants with a moving air flow works the best. I used to use these reusable desicant packs for storing guns. Those things would suck moisture out of a popcorn fart.
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I know the ones your speaking of...the ones that say "Not a food do not eat!!!"Lol.You know somewhere someone has gave it a whirl.lol
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bob24260 said:
I know the ones your speaking of...the ones that say "Not a food do not eat!!!"Lol.You know somewhere someone has gave it a whirl.lol
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Lol. Yep. Warning labels only exist because someone did something stupid.
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synisterwolf said:
+1 I worked for a shipping company a while back and I took some 6pack desiccants because my friend dropped her iPhone in the toilet. She put it in a plastic back with the desiccants and left it in front of a fan over night and it worked in the morning. About 8 hours. Plus if you can take the back off and remove the battery place the phone on top of the pack(battery side down) it should speed it up.
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I really appreciate the advice.I have passed along the tips and hopefully the device can be saved.
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Yeah you gotta be ready when stuff like this happens... The very very VERY first thing to do when it becomes submerged is take the battery out and leave it out until the phone is dry

+1 Yep the faster you can remove power the better off you are. And the rice trick has worked for me and other before when a phone/camera/etc has been dropped in water. Once you start getting into soda and other liquids I think the success rate goes down.

^yeah, IIRC if it gets submerged in other liquids you're actually supposed to wash the device off carefully in water because there's no current to short anything (if you have the battery out) and water is the least corrosive

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^yeah, IIRC if it gets submerged in other liquids you're actually supposed to wash the device off carefully in water because there's no current to short anything (if you have the battery out) and water is the least corrosive
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If you "wash" the phone. Please do it in distilled water. Water wont hurt the phone its the minerals in water that does it. Your phone will turn on under distilled water.
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Epic was sitting on water on my nightstand - now won't boot

Okay so my cpap machine leaked last night and my Epic was sitting in a small amount of water. I removed the battery cover and dried the tiny bit of water from in there. It worked until I got to work and plugged it in to my PC. It wouldn't mount USB, I rebooted, and it hasn't come up since. I have pulled it apart, letting it dry. See attached pic. Any suggestions? Or am I needing to buy a phone?

Probably done for.
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Let it sit in a bowl of rice for a few hours.
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kennyglass123 said:
Let it sit in a bowl of rice for a few hours.
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Agreed. Rice or another desiccant will help pull any residual moisture from the phone.

Muckrak3r said:
Okay so my cpap machine leaked last night and my Epic was sitting in a small amount of water. I removed the battery cover and dried the tiny bit of water from in there. It worked until I got to work and plugged it in to my PC. It wouldn't mount USB, I rebooted, and it hasn't come up since. I have pulled it apart, letting it dry. See attached pic. Any suggestions? Or am I needing to buy a phone?
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This is why I keep my cpap in a drawer on my end table, and my phone on top.
Did you knock into it or something?

algorhythm said:
This is why I keep my cpap in a drawer on my end table, and my phone on top.
Did you knock into it or something?
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Didn't bump it or anything. Only possible thing is maybe my wife over-filled the reservoir or something.
I got it booting up with the case all apart and only the connections made, but as soon as I pieced it all back together it went back to not booting up. Getting quite annoying.

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Didn't bump it or anything. Only possible thing is maybe my wife over-filled the reservoir or something.
I got it booting up with the case all apart and only the connections made, but as soon as I pieced it all back together it went back to not booting up. Getting quite annoying.
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Something may be shorting it.
Do you use tap water or the recommended distilled water?

algorhythm said:
Something may be shorting it.
Do you use tap water or the recommended distilled water?
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Distilled water. Keep a gallon of it on hand at all times.
I tweaked with it a bit more and finally got it to boot with it all put back together. It is either the usb port itself causing a short, or one of the 3 battery connectors that the battery touches when inserted.
I may have tweaked one of them while drying it out with the battery pulled. One of the 3 prongs, the one closest to the center of the phone, is bent differently than the other 2. The odd prong doesn't go all the way to the bottom of it's track the way the other 2 do. Not sure if it's designed that way or if I bent it on accident.
I copied the SD card contents to my PC and will see how things go today. Will probably need to get a replacement board.

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I may have tweaked one of them while drying it out with the battery pulled. One of the 3 prongs, the one closest to the center of the phone, is bent differently than the other 2. The odd prong doesn't go all the way to the bottom of it's track the way the other 2 do. Not sure if it's designed that way or if I bent it on accident.
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I just checked mine, all 3 look exactly the same.

algorhythm said:
I just checked mine, all 3 look exactly the same.
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Thanks, I will try and bend out the 3rd one. However, it's likely an issue with the usb port. With the phone booted up and on battery power, no usb cable connected, it keeps toggling constantly between usb connected and not up in the notification bar. I will try and put something against the usb enclosure before closing up the case this time and see if I can get it to stabilize.

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Thanks, I will try and bend out the 3rd one. However, it's likely an issue with the usb port. With the phone booted up and on battery power, no usb cable connected, it keeps toggling constantly between usb connected and not up in the notification bar. I will try and put something against the usb enclosure before closing up the case this time and see if I can get it to stabilize.
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Definitely sounds like a short on the board, possibly inside the USB port itself (remember, there are data and power lines inside the port).
Good luck, you may want to look in to an end table with drawers next time I got one from Ikea for like 30$ that I store my cpap in.

What the **** is cpap?
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garyf said:
What the **** is cpap?
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Continuous positive airway pressure, for sleep apnea
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The phone seems to be staying "normal" now - It continuously thinks usb is plugged in when it isn't. To get it to mount my PC I have to plug in the usb with the phone off, wait until the battery meter screen comes on, and then boot the phone. And then it mounts usb. Not a huge deal.
I'm loving ACS ICSv4 OC'd to 1.2 with EI22. It's so fast and smooth and responsive. I finally got a perfect ROM setup and the phone got wet lol ! For now I'm good.
Just for good measure I will probably stick it in rice overnight, but I doubt it will help as the damage to the usb port is probably permanent.

johnbarry3434 said:
Continuous positive airway pressure, for sleep apnea
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Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!

digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Yeah, they do.

digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Peeking into peoples' bedroom windows at night? lol
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digiblur said:
Ahhh...those darth vader looking masks that I have seen people wearing at night. I hear they help out a ton!
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Basically anybody that snores isn't getting good sleep and could benefit from cpap. When you snore you don't get enough REM sleep, and you don't get enough oxygen to your brain. Over time it turns into all kinds of major health issues. I'm in my low 30' s and benefit greatly from cpap!

I gave terrible sinus issues. Going to look into this. Thanks for the info
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JohnCorleone said:
I gave terrible sinus issues. Going to look into this. Thanks for the info
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Doesn't mean you need one.
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Basically anybody that snores isn't getting good sleep and could benefit from cpap. When you snore you don't get enough REM sleep, and you don't get enough oxygen to your brain. Over time it turns into all kinds of major health issues. I'm in my low 30' s and benefit greatly from cpap!
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No, not exactly.. basically, your airway closes mid-sleep and you subconciously wake up. Yes, your o2sat goes down, but that's not the only thing. you are constantly waking up many times per hour. Leads to many health issues.. strokes, heart attacks, falling asleep while driving, etc.
Sometimes it's weight-based, but sometimes it is genetic. In my case, half my family has it, and we are not overweight.
I've been on it for around 5 years and I couldn't imagine not being on it.

Dropped my N4 in the toilet (UPDATE)

For anyone interested in the results of the drenched in toilet water soaking my N4 took after Thanksgiving, it works.
I removed it from the rice that I replaced 4 times. I don't know how to take the phone apart and clean with solvent, however it seemed dry upon inspection and the display looked like brand new. I turned it on and everything works great. I was surprised because I figured the speakers and whatnot might not be clear but they sound crisp and new, no problems at all.
So I can recommend and verify that the rice treatment works, now I am just waiting for my other N4 to arrive from back order.

Good to hear. Thanks for the update.

Wow, glad to know that actually works. Was it in a warm environment (Like what temperature standard 21ish *c)

Does it smell like poop?

That's awesome.. I was very sad for you for a while.. Couldn't imagine how upset I would be if I destroyed my n4
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ctowne said:
Does it smell like poop?
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+1. How's it smell?

ctowne said:
Does it smell like poop?
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Yes no maybe?

Yikes, I know some people hate the Nexus 4, but mistaking it for a turd is a bit extreme!?

Thats great the rice worked i have never tried it but wondered if it worked.

ctowne said:
Does it smell like poop?
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Smells like cheesecake
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That is the chit!
I ordered a nexus 4 and all I got was bo.

Glad to hear. Those must have been 4 anxiety filled days.

I was thinking about this, what did you do after you washed it? Just power it off through the OS?
I've had good results removing the battery asap but obviously in this case we need to power it off through the OS right?

[Q] Swollen battery

So, has anyone else had any problems with the battery swelling on the N4? I first noticed that parts of the screen was having what appeared to be a massive light bleed, then after a few hours the back came off. I was not charging the phone so I have a hard time believing there is something wrong with my charger. I have attached a picture showing what it looks like now..

Never seen that before I'd get the phone replaced.

That's crazy

The problem is the battery blew up. How hot did you get that thing and for how long.
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Damn
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Holy ****. That's bad. Get it replaced.
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Wow get that away from you you don't need a battery acid shower
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Click it I dare you?
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My old Samsung got extremely hot and battery died in seconds , the battery didn't look to good neither!! Sent it back and they told me it was a battery loop!!
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The problem is the battery blew up. How hot did you get that thing and for how long.
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I had the phone in my pocket and only used it for Spotify when I was outside walking. I never checked the temperature when I saw the phone like that for the first time, so actually I don´t know how hot it got. I haven´t found a way to see the max temperature but if someone give me the instructions I gladly will.

I would suggest turning it off immediately and RMA'ing. That is dangerous. I'm really surprised at how bad that has swollen without exploding

skezza said:
I would suggest turning it off immediately and RMA'ing. That is dangerous. I'm really surprised at how bad that has swollen without exploding
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This is the second li-po cell battery i have seen like this. And my 5th lifetime li-po explosion total. I use them in my rc car and see them blow up frequently
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Wow... That picture proves that all these " my back glass spontaneously cracked" are full of crap! If the back glass can survive that uncracked....
But seriously though, that sucks and get that RMA'd!
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kinda annoying, i had a friend that had this done with his S2.. .he just replaced the battery .. annoyingly we cant do that easily

skezza said:
I would suggest turning it off immediately and RMA'ing. That is dangerous. I'm really surprised at how bad that has swollen without exploding
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Absolutely, I will call Google in the morning. The thing is that I live in Sweden and the phone is bought in the UK Play Store, so it will be interesting to see how I am able to RMA it since I don´t live in the UK.

peterlundgren said:
Absolutely, I will call Google in the morning. The thing is that I live in Sweden and the phone is bought in the UK Play Store, so it will be interesting to see how I am able to RMA it since I don´t live in the UK.
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Someone on here from the UK might be able to help you.

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Someone on here from the UK might be able to help you.
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Here's some information to RMA Devices
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2411741#GB