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Hello XDA!
I managed to get my hands on a Galaxy Tab to review. I'm an avid android user and I know what I would want from a device like this. Thing is, I want to know what YOU, dear XDA members, would like to know about the device!
Kindly leave me questions that you wish to be answered in the video review of the Galaxy Tab.
The sooner I get the questions the sooner I'll be able to post up a video.
Note: Kindly note that I cannot root the device nor change the flash version of android that runs on the device.
Firmware version: P1000XXJH1
Specs of the device as per Quadrant Advanced:
Quadrant score: 1,000
CPU: 1437
MEM: 1684
I/O: 791
2D: 201
3D: 886
Linpack score: 13.877
Total memory available: 435MB of which 174 is used on fresh boot.
System information(via Quadrant Advanced).
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It would be nice if you describe display quality - viewing angles, panel type (is it IPS) how it performs in sunlight. Is minimum brightness good for reading in dark conditions? Thanks!
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vitalij said:
It would be nice if you describe display quality - viewing angles, panel type (is it IPS) how it performs in sunlight. Is minimum brightness good for reading in dark conditions? Thanks!
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Viewing angles are a subjective issue, personally when i pick up my mobile device and look into it, it's always straight in front of me, so that's all i want, but if you have a viewing angle of over 45 degrees like the Tab, all you get is people on the bus, train or plane looking sideways to see what you're looking at
I'm based in England at the moment, they don't have that much sunlight and even less direct sunlight
First impressions, it feels to plasticky, not like it's price suggests that it should, not as bad as an X10, but almost.
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Viewing angles are a subjective issue, personally when i pick up my mobile device and look into it, it's always straight in front of me, so that's all i want, but if you have a viewing angle of over 45 degrees like the Tab, all you get is people on the bus, train or plane looking sideways to see what you're looking at
I'm based in England at the moment, they don't have that much sunlight and even less direct sunlight
First impressions, it feels to plasticky, not like it's price suggests that it should, not as bad as an X10, but almost.
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How is the call quality/ease of use.. Does the tab "feel" swift?
Hello guys,
Thanks for the initial question. I will cover this question in the video review.
I need more points of focus for the review.
MOARRRR
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Like if you have had chance to use the ipad, maybe like how does it compare value wise? As I think how much it costs £599 is putting me off, but if it is worth it compared to other tablets then I would consider it more
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How is the call quality/ease of use.. Does the tab "feel" swift?
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Wouldn't know about call quality as it's only owned by an engineer that comes into our office, he doesn't have any problems as far as i've heard, but as with other threads here just don't expect it to fit into you jacket or trouser pocket, one it's to big and another it's to heavy to be comfortable.
You may have visited the dell streak forum, or heard of how fragile the dell streak lcd screen is? because of it's large size the body flexes but LCD's by their very nature cannot flex and they snap. Well just look at the size of the LCD on the Tab, and the body of the Tab is made of plastic and (not titanium as per streak) to save weight, this by it's very design will make it more suceptible to breakage, (the body will flex under pressure the LCD will not) = ££££££
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Like if you have had chance to use the ipad, maybe like how does it compare value wise? As I think how much it costs £599 is putting me off, but if it is worth it compared to other tablets then I would consider it more
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Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
checkbox111 said:
Wouldn't know about call quality as it's only owned by an engineer that comes into our office, he doesn't have any problems as far as i've heard, but as with other threads here just don't expect it to fit into you jacket or trouser pocket, one it's to big and another it's to heavy to be comfortable.
You may have visited the dell streak forum, or heard of how fragile the dell streak lcd screen is? because of it's large size the body flexes but LCD's by their very nature cannot flex and they snap. Well just look at the size of the LCD on the Tab, and the body of the Tab is made of plastic and (not titanium as per streak) to save weight, this by it's very design will make it more suceptible to breakage, (the body will flex under pressure the LCD will not) = ££££££
Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
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Thank you. Do you have any questions that you would like answered about the device?
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Thank you. Do you have any questions that you would like answered about the device?
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Similar to all owners i would think! why did samsung insist on utilising such a large bezel around the screen? therebye turning a 7' screen device into one more akin to a 10' without any benefits of a 10'?, and adding nothing to the looks of the device at the same time.
Well the ipad and the Tab are two completely different entities, one is a bookreader trying to be a netbook pc, the others a smartphone with obesity problems. They shouldn't be compared IMO.
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Lol yeah I get the point, what I was more curious was in relation to the size, like is 7" too small to get a full web experience? Is it too big to carry round yet too small to use around the home? etc
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like is 7" too small to get a full web experience?
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No, because the 5" dell streak isn't to small for that!
sebbo90 said:
Is it too big to carry round yet too small to use around the home? etc
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As in other posts! you will not carry this around on your pocket, unless you want to break it! You might try a large overcoat with a very wide collar, if the pockets big enough and you want to look like the FBI everywhere you go.
https://www.urbantool.com/hq/laptop-cases/show-pocketbar
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Thanks for trolling another thread entirely off the rails.
To the OP:
A few things that I'd like to see discussed. Firstly how does it feel to type on it ? I've seen in a few first-impression pieces that it feels good (like a galaxy S in landscape) but it'd be great to get the feelings of a regular user. Also, some shots of the keyboard in action would be nice.
Secondly, can you toss some 720p video on there and show us how it looks. It never looks the same in video as in person, but it'd give us an idea of how the screen does as far as contrast and colour vibrancy is concerned.
Finally, how does the device feel to you ? Does it feel to you like you could carry it in a pocket all day ? Does it meet your expectations for speed/ease of use ?
GL with the video, hope to see it soon!
It is maybe off topic, but ... here goes :
- What release of Android is running ? Same as the one on Galaxy S device ?
- Does this android release supports multiple Exchange sync accounts (like HTC Desire & Desire Z do) ?
- Does it have 2 SIM card slots ? (saw that somewhere, don't remember ... where). If so, is it one for voice plan, second one for data plan ?
- Does it come with a USB host port (or the hw to take care of it) ?
Thanks.
Does it play 1080p files (mkv & flash) or does i only output 1080p..?
I got my hands on this last week to try out for a good half hour, and i loved it. The size was great, and great to watch movies on.
Looking forward to it. Release in Norway is 21. okt )
could it be confirmed if the Tab is going to require Kies in the same way as the Galaxy phones, e.g. for firmware updates
i assume that there will be no difference between this and their phones, but as Kies is software that i truly dislike, i am living in hope that it does not.
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could it be confirmed if the Tab is going to require Kies in the same way as the Galaxy phones, e.g. for firmware updates
i assume that there will be no difference between this and their phones, but as Kies is software that i truly dislike, i am living in hope that it does not.
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Yes, it is confirmed by Samsung already. In their official site, it says in the "PC connectivity" section "KIES". Sorry. I know, I hate that application with a passion myself...
If you have time, it would probably interest many people if you'd manage to try some popular apps from the market and see how they act with the increased resolution. We all probably have out own top10 lists for software, but I think browsing appbrain for most popular and trying a few of them would give people some idea how far that compatibility is.
(I, personally, would love to see how WidgetLocker, Beautiful Widgets and Launcher Pro work on that, but unfortunately at least the first two ain't free.
But more generally, how do widgets work on that screen? What I've gathered from the pictures is that the Tab has a FIVE column display (instead of the traditional 4) on the homescreen. How do widgets work with that? does a 4x4 widget scale to full size, or does it live a "column" free. Also, how many rows does the screen have?
EDIT: oookay, I don't know why these two posts became separate, this was supposed to be an edit to that earlier...
Actually thats a good idea.
I even forget that widget locket etc are even apps these days! But yes that'd be good to see if they scale up or still work properly on the big screen.
I imagine beutiful widget and switchpro you could make them bigger with launcherpro+ if they won't scale up by themselves, same with any other widgets, but it'd be good if they did it for free! However I think the 'grid' on the Tab is bigger anyway, so 4x2 widget would cover more space, but then it appears to have more rows too, so they might still appear small
Anyways, if you have any paid for apps on your main smartphone, you should be able to put the same market account on the Tab and download them again, so that's one way around paying twice just to demo them.
A few things I'd like to see:
- Spotify in action if possible.
- Proper comics and hos they scale to the screen and if it's easy or hard to read them (The Walking Dead for example.)
- A bit more on reading eBooks in different lights.
- In-depth look at the calendar and how flexible it is.
- If possible, how the accessories (like the keyboard) work.
- How it handles different resolutions of video.
Thank you for accepting suggestions!
So simple question really has anyone had any experience using both? (specifically the wifi only tab which I have which is worse than the 3g model)
I use my tab for reading books, reading comics and browsing the net. I have a gs2 so for gaming it is much better than my tab. I wont be doing much else than what I have listed so what do you guys think which is better?
Well overall the device is good enough for what you need it for, gaming (if you ever wish to) shouldn't be a problem on this due to the tegra 2 processor. Honeycomb is being ported and so far so good so that's a plus. Although the viewing angles on the screen are horrible, front on its beautiful but try looking at it from the sides its quite bad.
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Well overall the device is good enough for what you need it for, gaming (if you ever wish to) shouldn't be a problem on this due to the tegra 2 processor. Honeycomb is being ported and so far so good so that's a plus. Although the viewing angles on the screen are horrible, front on its beautiful but try looking at it from the sides its quite bad.
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Yeah, I agree...the screen is horrendous. Little bit chunky...but over all a decent wee tablet. With external hdd support using usb host (fat32 seemed to work best for me)...then onto your big hdtv! Cant do that on a ipad haha!
Ive not used the original galaxy tab...but im guessing sammy has used a nice screen...I would keep it if you already have the sgs2.
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I use my tab for reading books, reading comics and browsing the net.
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The answer is NO, the viewing angle is really small and (at least for me) at an very awkward angle for intensive reading and only works well in landscape mode. For reading I prefer white on black, but the backlight is bleeding like crazy.
Although I believe there have been some attempts, to replace the screen with one that has a better viewing angle.
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So simple question really has anyone had any experience using both? (specifically the wifi only tab which I have which is worse than the 3g model)
I use my tab for reading books, reading comics and browsing the net. I have a gs2 so for gaming it is much better than my tab. I wont be doing much else than what I have listed so what do you guys think which is better?
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Yes, you get a tablet with a bigger screen, same performance, 3G connection, and HoneyComb (in development).
Thanks guys for your helpful replies.
I think for me the tab probably is better but I just have to get used to the fact it is a rather limited device. I've always thought the Advent vega looked like excellent value for money but as I use my tab pretty much exclusively for reading/comics and web I shouldn't get annoyed that it is not very good at doing much else.
No!
The Tab's screen may be smaller but it really is night and day between it and the Vega's screen as far as viewing angles and sheer quality goes!
If all you want is a bigger screen then yes, the Vega is amazing value for money. I'm typing this on mine right now! However I'm using an allternative ROM, launcher, browser etc because out of the box it's just useless.
It definitely has problems though, I mean it took me quite some time to get the software to make it behave the way I wanted to, the colours are very washed out (Samsung's screens on the other hand are very good with colour) and the 16:9 presentation is quite useless for anything but movies , especially with the huge menu bar the thing comes with if you don't mod it. Finally, the accelerometer has problems with games, I've not yet had an accelerometer-based game work properly on it...
I bought mine to showcase my portfolio without carrying a load of paper around and for that purpose it's pretty good but it really could do with better colours.
Hi,
I had a chance to spend some time with a sample version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Since it was a sample I can not comment to much about that part, but I did write down my thoughts on the hardware and using a 5.3" unit as a phone.
If you feel like reading a bit about it you will find it on my blog, ftechviews.blogspot.com
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Thanks for sharing us, I especially like the part you explained about the UI being scaled up to fit the higher resolution screen
Though now I wonder, does the bigger screen and higher resolution really bring about any "real"and tangible result, for example, when you open the browser, can you see the letters clearly without zooming in? Also, I wonder if the stylus would fall out easily... thanks a lot
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Thanks for sharing that, I'm about to buy either a note or nexus, I really want the biggest screen possible yet still be able to carry it around in a pocket like a phone. You have convinced me the note will be ok
The browser is one one of the few places where the high resolution is put to good use. You can see most of a webpage, but the font is really small. Its readable but hard to read. Zoom ones or turn the phone in to landscape helps.
On the sample I had the stylus was almost impossible to get out, so no I would not say that it falls out easily.
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience! I've been eager to hear about how this device will perform, so news like this is appreciated.
You've already answered one question about the stylus, but how is it secured specifically? Is it magnetic or simply held by plastic? Also, how was the battery life? That's perhaps one of my major concerns so far, and I assume you've had enough time to get a basic impression.
Here is another site where someone owns a Note and has shared his experience:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note/432191-i-have-got-galaxy-note.html
The stylus is not magnetic, but is locked in bu the plastic around it. Battery life was good for such a big device. I could easily use it for an entire work day, including travel time.
Could you also test the audio quality via headphones out. was it excellent, very good, good, average or bad. How was it compared to the best mobile phone player u ve ever heard.
Would there be a 32gb version coming out??? ANyone.?
Regarding audio I primary used it for audio books. The quality is good, and the output volume it better than average. Its not the best I heard, nor is it the worst.
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Regarding audio I primary used it for audio books. The quality is good, and the output volume it better than average. Its not the best I heard, nor is it the worst.
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then that means probably it uses the same crappy audio DAC as the galaxy s2. thats very sad !
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Hi,
I had a chance to spend some time with a sample version of the Samsung Galaxy Note. Since it was a sample I can not comment to much about that part, but I did write down my thoughts on the hardware and using a 5.3" unit as a phone.
If you feel like reading a bit about it you will find it on my blog, ftechviews.blogspot.com
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Thanks I planning to buy a New device but you really help me to make a better decision.
Faaborg, did you have any chance to test the videoplayback on the device?
I read somewhere that playing MKV in 720p on the device showed some lagg, which is very dissapointing if it's true...
For some strange reason, what I can't explain, I did not get around to testing video playback. Sorry.
Did you see any lag while using the stylus? And was navigating through the homescreens etc. as snappy as the S II ?
There was a little lag when using the stylus, the experience was very much like the same as the HTC Flyer. All UI navigation was super quick and the same goes for installed apps and the browser.
I was thinking about getting the note, since i want a tablet and want to change my phone. Though they have not yet told anyone what market they are putting it to.
I wish they could say which carrier it would work with in USA.
The size is perfect, its thin and has a what seems to be a great pen to use.
Yes.for sure it will be available in 32GB later.
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Like the title says. Adobe is coming out with Photoshop for tabs. It won't be the same as the desktop version, but at least we'll be able to create graphics, edit photos, etc. on tabs now, import, export psd files for use on desktop version and pricing has it at only $9.99!
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-touch/features.html
This was actually an interesting news to me, there is no good picture editor available for tablets at the moment. They're all more-or-less "apply this and this filter, PERHAPS modify some parameter a little" - type apps, with no layer capabilities or anything.
As I am thinking of buying a somewhat more expensive digital camera soon this will be a great companion to take along on journeys.
Current mood: mildly excited.
Sounds interesting to tinker with, but I can not imagine doing any serious photo editing on the tablet. On the other hand, if it will open large .tiff files that would be great. QUICKPIC developers tell me android sdk does not provide a stock tiff decoder.
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This was actually an interesting news to me, there is no good picture editor available for tablets at the moment. They're all more-or-less "apply this and this filter, PERHAPS modify some parameter a little" - type apps, with no layer capabilities or anything.
As I am thinking of buying a somewhat more expensive digital camera soon this will be a great companion to take along on journeys.
Current mood: mildly excited.
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I hate having to start up my laptop and/or desktop to do simple graphics creation. Hopefully this program will alleviate some of that need.
this could be best piece of software yet
Can't wait!
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As a professional photographer, this has me very excited! I already bring my tab with me on shoots to get a better look at my pictures right as I take them, so being able to make quick edits in PS would be great! I already use an editor, but nothing too exciting. I'm happy to see this!
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As a professional photographer, this has me very excited! I already bring my tab with me on shoots to get a better look at my pictures right as I take them, so being able to make quick edits in PS would be great! I already use an editor, but nothing too exciting. I'm happy to see this!
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A tablet is a lot lighter-weight option to bring along than e.g. a full laptop, and as A500 has a proper USB-port it's a great companion for a photographer, allowing the person to just plug camera in and download the pictures there.
Also, I haven't seen a single picture/photo manipulation application that is not only designed specifically for tablets, but that also can open and save .PSD, has fully-working histograms, layers and color-balance editing tools. Ie. Photoshop Touch doesn't really have competition at all here and I'm fairly certain this thing will quickly garner quite a large fanbase.
Early reviews seem certainly positive: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/hands-on-adobe-photoshop-touch-review-1031971 http://apcmag.com/photoshop-touch-finally-full-power-apps-for-tablets.htm
Personally I think I will also be getting the Ideas Touch for some vector-drawing.
WereCatf said:
A tablet is a lot lighter-weight option to bring along than e.g. a full laptop, and as A500 has a proper USB-port it's a great companion for a photographer, allowing the person to just plug camera in and download the pictures there.
Also, I haven't seen a single picture/photo manipulation application that is not only designed specifically for tablets, but that also can open and save .PSD, has fully-working histograms, layers and color-balance editing tools. Ie. Photoshop Touch doesn't really have competition at all here and I'm fairly certain this thing will quickly garner quite a large fanbase.
Early reviews seem certainly positive: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/hands-on-adobe-photoshop-touch-review-1031971 http://apcmag.com/photoshop-touch-finally-full-power-apps-for-tablets.htm
Personally I think I will also be getting the Ideas Touch for some vector-drawing.
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Good find on that article. Great read!
Wow android gets it before ipad2
IOS has to wait till early 2012
http://www.excitebuzz.com/android-tablets-have-adobe-photoshop-touch/920.html
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Wow android gets it before ipad2
IOS has to wait till early 2012
http://www.excitebuzz.com/android-tablets-have-adobe-photoshop-touch/920.html
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Yes, it's funny to see that. IMHO it's because Apple took so long to adopt flash in IOS that Adobe is sticking it back to them lol
Makes sense to me anyway.
Adobe Touch Apps Suite
Just gets better.....
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/10/adobe-touch-apps-suite-and-adobe-creative-cloud/
Wow, finally a decent graphics program for tablets. Definately a must have.
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Just gets better.....
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/10/adobe-touch-apps-suite-and-adobe-creative-cloud/
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Great find! That's the sh!t!
As cool as that app would be, we would need better screen on tablets. A500 just too dull to do any sharp graphics manipulation. I tried it few time, on the tablet the color looked dull, even when i made color so sharp. Used the HDMI and hooked it up to my 55 inch screen, and it was so sharp that i had to to dull the color down.
Even if you just hook up your tablet to good TV via HDMI, you can see how better the tablet background looks compare to on Tablet screen.
I did more reading about this (previous links + Google search) and now I'm really dying to try it!! They should release a time limited free beta. C'mon Abobe! Please?
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As cool as that app would be, we would need better screen on tablets. A500 just too dull to do any sharp graphics manipulation. I tried it few time, on the tablet the color looked dull, even when i made color so sharp. Used the HDMI and hooked it up to my 55 inch screen, and it was so sharp that i had to to dull the color down.
Even if you just hook up your tablet to good TV via HDMI, you can see how better the tablet background looks compare to on Tablet screen.
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The tablet only has a 262k color screen which is obviously quite a lot less than regular displays. It is still a good approximation and atleast to my eye it is close enough; it gets the job done for a quick edit. You create a basic mock-up of what you need/want on the tablet on-the-go, then you either upload it to your creative cloud so someone you're working with can finish the thing or you yourself finish it later on when you get home.
Now, I do agree that A500's screen isn't the best one around. If you are serious about starting to do photo and picture manipulation with Photoshop Touch on-the-go, then you should get a tablet with Super Amoled+ screen for much, much better color representation and sharpness.
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shin lucifer said:
As cool as that app would be, we would need better screen on tablets. A500 just too dull to do any sharp graphics manipulation. I tried it few time, on the tablet the color looked dull, even when i made color so sharp. Used the HDMI and hooked it up to my 55 inch screen, and it was so sharp that i had to to dull the color down.
Even if you just hook up your tablet to good TV via HDMI, you can see how better the tablet background looks compare to on Tablet screen.
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Ive seen on XDA some people saying the A500 colors are washed out or too dull....
This baffles me. I am by no means a pro photographer. I do dabble on the side and have for many years in photography. I bought this tablet for the sole purpose of transporting my portfolio with me. I didnt go with Ipad because itunes will "optimize" your high resolution pictures during transfer to the device and that wasnt acceptable. I also use it to show clients previews of a shoot instead of lugging around my laptop. I have been using QuickPic to browse photos because i think it renders jpegs a lot sharper than the stock app or any other app in the market. PerfectViewer is a close second.....
Anyhow, one thing I make sure to do is turn up the screen brightness to 100% or close to it. Photos look sharp and the difference in color compared side by side to my gateway fx are negligible. If I have brightness on auto or a low setting it can look a little dull. Honestly thats the way it is with any monitor.
I do wish the A500 had some sort of color control setting as I find it IS a notch on the COOL side and I would like to tweak it.
Two other amateur photographers I know have now purchased an A500 and are glad they did.
Grab a 32 gig card and fill it with jpegs
Oh yea this thing I just found out will play my 360 VR panoramas .SWF format. Wonder if an Ipad will do that?
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Used the HDMI and hooked it up to my 55 inch screen, and it was so sharp that i had to to dull the color down.
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Btw, I just came to think about this: if you mean "55 inch screen" as in a TV, then I just have to ask: did you adjust TV settings for natural colours without sharpening, colour "enhance" or anything like that? Because if you didn't then that's the problem. All TVs by default have colour settings suitable for movies and live streaming, but not for most precise and natural colour.
If you want proper colour representation then you need a high-quality screen with real sRGB or Adobe RGB profiles included and no "enhancements" turned on.
Looks like its out already!!!
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I bought an A500 and a Nook Color during recent deals, with plans to return one of them, and both arrived yesterday. I've rooted the Nook but left the A500 stock. I installed MX Player on both of them and have been playing movies ever since ... and am really disappointed in how the A500 screen looks in general and especially in comparison to the Nook's. It's kinda washed out, with bland colors, and just isn't sharp, while the Nook's is the opposite in all regards. Plus, movies on the Nook run very smoothly, while on the A500 there's a hint of hesitation throughout.
Sigh.
And I really wanted the A500 to be the tab I kept, because of everything else it can do that the Nook can't, with a bigger screen ta boot.
Might my A500 be defective or is this just the way things are, given that the screens use different technologies? I have tried fiddling with the A500s brightness adjustments, to no avail.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks!
Have you tried to simply return for an exchange, or go to like a best buy and compare it to another? I watch movies on mine all the time, and usually via HDMI to my TV with no problems. I think I am using Twist player though for movies, so not sure if thats the trick. And, maybe try and convert the videos to different formats?
Not my experience
linter said:
I bought an A500 and a Nook Color during recent deals, with plans to return one of them, and both arrived yesterday. ... It's kinda washed out, with bland colors, and just isn't sharp, while the Nook's is the opposite in all regards. Plus, movies on the Nook run very smoothly, while on the A500 there's a hint of hesitation throughout.
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I have both, and my experience is different from yours. I find the A500 (tested outdoors) to be a bit brighter and truer whites (the NC has a very slight greenish tint).
I have viewed the same images on both, but not tried any movies.
The pixel density is higher on the NC, which is why it may appear sharper.
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I hope not as I am basically getting this to replace my nook color (not nook tablet). I'm hoping the extra core/bump in processor speed, honeycomb/ics, and bigger screen will make it a better browsing experience. Although movie playback works well on nook so I will be bummed if that is worse here. Do you still use both DeanGibson?
Fer: Nope, haven't gone to BB to check others out. It's a ways away, and time is short ... but maybe have to go.
DeanG: Pix are fine, no problemo. It's movies I'm talking about. Really, the diff b/ the A500 and the Nook is pretty significant. Hopefully, some other movie-watching Nook and A500 owners will chime in.
Nstong: Hope your experience is better than mine has been so far!
Use both
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Do you still use both DeanGibson?
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Yes, regularly
It is a bit washed out. I'd copied a movie onto my A500 and was comparing to my monitor last night and the colors are definitely more crisp and vibrant on the monitor. Cranking up the brightness on the A500 helped a bit. The A500 seems to need brightness turned up or it seems a bit dim.
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It is a bit washed out. I'd copied a movie onto my A500 and was comparing to my monitor last night and the colors are definitely more crisp and vibrant on the monitor. Cranking up the brightness on the A500 helped a bit. The A500 seems to need brightness turned up or it seems a bit dim.
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After a few more tests, I've decided to return the A500. Sigh. Oh, well, maybe next year something'll come out that I can afford and that has a nice screen, etc. In the meantime, the Nook will do just fine ...
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After a few more tests, I've decided to return the A500. Sigh. Oh, well, maybe next year something'll come out that I can afford and that has a nice screen, etc. In the meantime, the Nook will do just fine ...
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**** really? Was the browsing, user interface etc. smoother?
For the price, it falls into the "good enough" category for me. The wife did not like the 7" size so it was 10" or bust. Given that, this ended up being a pretty decent deal. It's mostly going to be used in the car and traveling for web browsing and movie watching when needed. The display doesn't have to be fantastic for that.
As it is, I'll probably end up with a Win8 tablet in the future. Nothing like having a full blown OS when you need it.
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After a few more tests, I've decided to return the A500. Sigh. Oh, well, maybe next year something'll come out that I can afford and that has a nice screen, etc. In the meantime, the Nook will do just fine ...
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You made the right choice!
The A500 is a piece of junk!
Coming from a consumer electronics background and now working in IT, posts like make you stop and ask "Is it better color or exaggerated?" All the SG2 fanboys out there love that screen. When I see it I think OMG oversaturation! I think the colors are very true on my A500. No complaints here.
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Coming from a consumer electronics background and now working in IT, posts like make you stop and ask "Is it better color or exaggerated?" All the SG2 fanboys out there love that screen. When I see it I think OMG oversaturation! I think the colors are very true on my A500. No complaints here.
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I totally agree.
If you don't like this product take it the fffffff.BACK to store get what you want.save us the time from reading your crying. Please
This is a Development forum.not a complaint arena take that to acers front door.
Thank you and sorry for being so rude its not really my style.
Xo my friends.
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I totally agree.
If you don't like this product take it the fffffff.BACK to store get what you want.save us the time from reading your crying. Please
This is a Development forum.not a complaint arena take that to acers front door.
Thank you and sorry for being so rude its not really my style.
Xo my friends.
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Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning huh? lol
I chose a much more diplomatic/sarcastic response
I noticed the slight hesitation as well, if u use moboplayer its mitigated quite a bit. It also helps if you encode your videos at a less taxing preset.
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I bought an A500 and a Nook Color during recent deals, with plans to return one of them, and both arrived yesterday. I've rooted the Nook but left the A500 stock. I installed MX Player on both of them and have been playing movies ever since ... and am really disappointed in how the A500 screen looks in general and especially in comparison to the Nook's. It's kinda washed out, with bland colors, and just isn't sharp, while the Nook's is the opposite in all regards. Plus, movies on the Nook run very smoothly, while on the A500 there's a hint of hesitation throughout.
Sigh.
And I really wanted the A500 to be the tab I kept, because of everything else it can do that the Nook can't, with a bigger screen ta boot.
Might my A500 be defective or is this just the way things are, given that the screens use different technologies? I have tried fiddling with the A500s brightness adjustments, to no avail.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks!
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I read the above post and looked familiar - like deja vu. It stuck in my mind cause I was exasperated after reading it. To the OP, there are some things you should just share with your significant other, or better yet your cat. "sigh":
12-06-2011, 09:36 PM
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got my a500 yesterday and after all that waiting and fretting, i hate to say it but ... bleh. main problem is screen with movies is just okay, especially compared to the nook's. it's washed out and not all that sharp. plus, the thing is fairly heavy. yeah, i know, i read the specs beforehand, but it's one thing to read em and another to feel em. as long as you've got something to rest it on, of course, no problemo, but it's not fun to sit w/ it in bed, at least as compared to the nook, which i also got yesterday, from the earlier BB refurb deal.
i'm only going to keep one of them. so far, i'm leaning toward the nook. but, damn, the a500 has so much to offer. if only the screen was better, i could probably deal w/ the weight. but the two of them together ... i dunno.
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Users writing such posts, are close to being blind and much worse..
comparing a computerscreen and a tablet cannot be done by the eye. If this owner went and played a 720p edition of a movie on the tablet, using software decoding and later on played using hardware decoding and totally different calibration settings for colours your result is probably what most people buy a TV on, vibrant colours which are way off ISF calibrated standard, but for regular colour blind users, it looks nice . NEVER trust regular user opinions on screen and its appearance, we all see colour differently when it comes to personal taste, and you cannot ask one which is not a professional, about colours being wrong, if that user never had any idea on gamma settings, CMYK or CMS or even grayscale corrections done to the screen.
this user cannot be trusted, but if you do choose to do so, beware, you eyes might just be alot better and you get a personal better experience with a500 than the user chosing another tablet with different display, just because it looked vibrant.
meassuring colours on a500, will give an idea on which is wrong or how accurate it is, and its really not that bad..
Its like saying you prefer "SPORTS" picture settings on your telly compared to MOVIE settings. both are equally bad, but you get a personal view on it, making it better.
Best screen available today for any tegra2 tablet is the one on Samsung Galaxy 10.1, their panel used is alot better and more accurate. If just everybody included colour management on their tablet we could even calibrate it to be perfect.
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Users writing such posts, are close to being blind and much worse..
comparing a computerscreen and a tablet cannot be done by the eye. If this owner went and played a 720p edition of a movie on the tablet, using software decoding and later on played using hardware decoding and totally different calibration settings for colours your result is probably what most people buy a TV on, vibrant colours which are way off ISF calibrated standard, but for regular colour blind users, it looks nice . NEVER trust regular user opinions on screen and its appearance, we all see colour differently when it comes to personal taste, and you cannot ask one which is not a professional, about colours being wrong, if that user never had any idea on gamma settings, CMYK or CMS or even grayscale corrections done to the screen.
this user cannot be trusted, but if you do choose to do so, beware, you eyes might just be alot better and you get a personal better experience with a500 than the user chosing another tablet with different display, just because it looked vibrant.
meassuring colours on a500, will give an idea on which is wrong or how accurate it is, and its really not that bad..
Its like saying you prefer "SPORTS" picture settings on your telly compared to MOVIE settings. both are equally bad, but you get a personal view on it, making it better.
Best screen available today for any tegra2 tablet is the one on Samsung Galaxy 10.1, their panel used is alot better and more accurate. If just everybody included colour management on their tablet we could even calibrate it to be perfect.
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No one is saying it's that bad. People are just saying there are others that are better. For some it isn't as important. For some it is.
As for color management, that can help but even then, there can be consistency issues across the screen. I do wish we had color management on Android devices as it would help.
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As for color management, that can help but even then, there can be consistency issues across the screen. I do wish we had color management on Android devices as it would help.
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maybe the CyanogenMod team can do so, they already played with colours, so why not go all the way, and let us chose ourselves.
anyways, an app might just do it too, at least on tegra2 tablets. dunno, if it can be generally used on all, since hardware changes and some might utilize and other simply skipped the functions of the display.
linter/floete - I've had the A500 for over a week and can attest that the display is not "washed out." Over the weekend I attached a compact flash card reader and viewed huge jpg images from a full frame dslr. The detail was amazing, and very useful for inspecting an image before sending it off. For movies, the display is also nice. This is subjective, but really, the IPS screens may be better, but the A500 is still really good. I don't feel like I'm missing anything with the A500. My only complaint is the 3' power cord - too short...