Are Samsung ever going to release the S4 with 64GB internal memory as stated, or even one with 32GB internal memory?
All signs point to probably not.
i hope so, i preordered two ... im not buying anything less than 64 so.. ill continue to wait, got an N900 holdin me down.
edit: the 32 is already out in the 9500 flavor .. 24GB freespace
why wait or pay so much more for a 32 or 64 gig version, just get a 64gb sd card and slap it in. cost a lot less than the phone does
You can't move all games on sd, only some. So, you need larger internal memory.
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You can't move all games on sd, only some. So, you need larger internal memory.
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File binding is the key
bogdan1980 said:
You can't move all games on sd, only some. So, you need larger internal memory.
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too true, don't understand why they even put 16gb in if they are going to cram half of it with bloatware. minimum should have been 32 to start with
but once you root it and put CM10.X on it you will have a lot more room
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File binding is the key
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What's file binding?
And to answer the original question: I think Australia will be also getting a 32gb model in the coming wks (don't take this as gospel though, it's an unconfirmed rumour as far as I'm concerned).
File binding and rooting doesn't work yet, has reliability issues and stops some apps from working.
Internal memory works better. We need bigger memory models. The 16gb should never have been sold.
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File binding and rooting doesn't work yet, has reliability issues and stops some apps from working.
Internal memory works better. We need bigger memory models. The 16gb should never have been sold.
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Yeah, I know, but soon for and binding will be possible I think. I agree with you, or at least Samsung should release all three version on the same time for those who want to buy more space.
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Yeah, I know, but soon for and binding will be possible I think. I agree with you, or at least Samsung should release all three version on the same time for those who want to buy more space.
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Unlike Apple, Samsung doesn't sell the phone directly. It gets orders from the carriers and wholesalers. The carriers no nothing about the memory and apps issues so just ordered the cheapest model as it would sell the most. But they were basing this decision on lack of technical information.
Every single mobile phone shop is lying to customers telling them apps can be moved to the sd card. I have corrected the staff but do they care to raise it higher.
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Unlike Apple, Samsung doesn't sell the phone directly. It gets orders from the carriers and wholesalers. The carriers no nothing about the memory and apps issues so just ordered the cheapest model as it would sell the most. But they were basing this decision on lack of technical information.
Every single mobile phone shop is lying to customers telling them apps can be moved to the sd card. I have corrected the staff but do they care to raise it higher.
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Yeah, but not only. If you check websites like Amazon, even there are only 16 GB devices They will release in 4-5 months the 32 and 64 gigs, when another, more powerful smartphone with 16 gigs will be released.
32GB is already out and being sold. there was a vid on youtube, ill look for it.
edit: BOOM!
Any further speculation/rumor on the 32 release (on AT&T specifically)? I spoke with a rep who said they will be getting the 32gb version, but did not know when. I spoke with a samsung customer service/marketing rep on facebook who said to contact AT&T for info. No help at all, and 16 just seems too small even with the 64gb microSD
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32GB is already out and being sold. there was a vid on youtube, ill look for it.
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How about some more magic and make that YouTube S4 appear for sale in the UK.
Any news update on 32gb/64gb with LTE models? I'd rather buy an 64gb htc one than a 16gb+64microsd S4. But I like the S4 more than the One.
I am also waiting for the 32GB version, don't know when it will be available in Middle East, can't wait to get my hands on this beast.
http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...the-samsung-galaxy-s4-32gb-and-64gb-versions/
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Not even amazon have the 32gb version :/
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I guess I'll just take the 16GB and rely on custom roms to lessen the bloat and app to extSD. :|
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Tried pre-ordering from Handtec and after giving them a copy of my driver's license, copies of business cards for my shipping address, and other info as requested... two weeks after they'd taken and charged my credit card they wanted MORE. I got frustrated and said no, so they cancelled my order.
But I STILL want a 32GB version, which I have NO release date for, and a vendor that is reasonable about taking orders from a US customer. Any ON TOPIC info would be appreciated.
Well I have read somewhere that 32gb version will come a lot later than 16gb version so for me 16gb version packed with 64gb sdcard = win. Imo not worth waiting and money.
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Well I have read somewhere that 32gb version will come a lot later than 16gb version so for me 16gb version packed with 64gb sdcard = win. Imo not worth waiting and money.
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32gb is max for SDHC though. I don't think we have any confirmation that SDXC-cards will work, seems like it was only rumors.
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32gb is max for SDHC though. I don't think we have any confirmation that SDXC-cards will work, seems like it was only rumors.
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I read somewhere that they don't work
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Well I have read somewhere that 32gb version will come a lot later than 16gb version so for me 16gb version packed with 64gb sdcard = win. Imo not worth waiting and money.
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64 gb sdhc card.... how? unless it some how has two memory chips in its package.... now i are of the confused variety
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64 gb sdhc card.... how? unless it some how has two memory chips in its package.... now i are of the confused variety
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There is no 64 GB SDHC Card.
AS for the 32 GB SGS2, i guess you may have to wait for quite a while mate. Seeing as Samsung has not yet released the Standard 16GB NON NFC Super Amoled Plus+ Exynos 1.2 Ghz Processor Specced Phone in all the markets, it will take time for the variants to hit the shelves.
I dont understand what Samsung is playing at though. By the time all the variants are out, it may well be August/September. And according to Eldar Murtazin, thats when the iPhone 5 Competitor, the SGS3 is supposed to come out. What Gives?!
http://www.shopyourworld.com/samsungGalaxySII/samsungGalaxySII.htm
Any word on a release date for the 32GB version? Tempted to order the 16GB version like so many others have, but for an extra $100(?), I'd rather have the 32GB.
GSMNation suggests mid-May.
I got this email from GSMNation:
"I'm writing with an update on the 32GB version of the phone. It has been indefinitely delayed by Samsung, so we can't say when it will be available. I'm guessing that's because they are still trying to fulfill their 3 million pre orders for the 16GB one. We are expecting it to be launched near the end of June now, meaning at least another month before it becomes available. But since there's no official word about its release from Samsung, can't say that for sure. If you want, we can still change your order and ship out the Galaxy S2 in 16GB. Please let us know how you want us to proceed."
BTW, is the S2's internal memory a SDcard or a flash memory chip?
I have been told by the folks in the Samsung shop here in Taiwan said the incumbent telco will get an exclusive (in Taiwan) on the 32GB and should be arriving around the last week in July. I also couldn't read, but did see the email from Chunghwa telecom marketing stating same and laying out prices for the various contracts.They also said it would be exynos.
16gb internal and 32gb card and then use a USB flash and the phone as a host if you need more
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It isn't known one way or another if they'll work. Just a lot of speculation. Hardware wise, SDHC and SDXC have the same interface, and going by wikipedia Linux may have no trouble reading both without any massaging.
Of course they could also totally not work, but it's worth keeping in mind that what is "official" isn't always true - Android phones used to be sold only officially supporting up to 16Gb SD cards.
and why do we have no info on when they will be available? all i see is 'coming soon" on the at&t page. why bother giving us the price tag a month ago then not having them up for presale? will they even be available upon launch on at&t?
Samsung are always the same they say there are 32 and 64 models but they never ever see the light of day here in the UK
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just spoke to at&t and they said the 32gb model will probably not be available at launch. yet they have the $249 price tag in their systems already. if true i guess ill hold off upgrading. what a mess.
EDIT: i also see they never carried the 32gb model of the s3 so im wondering if we will ever get a 32gb edition of the s4?
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just spoke to at&t and they said the 32gb model will probably not be available at launch. yet they have the $249 price tag in their systems already. if true i guess ill hold off upgrading. what a mess.
EDIT: i also see they never carried the 32gb model of the s3 so im wondering if we will ever get a 32gb edition of the s4?
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I am wondering the same thing. It's just speculation of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if the 32 and 64gb versions will only be available through Verizon in the US. So AT&T gets first launch but Verizon gets a better variety? I guess we will know soon. I guarantee there are managers at AT&T that already know, but as usual, are not saying.
hope it won't be like last year when they cancelled the galaxy s3 64GB version
yeah i got fed up and just ordered my 16gb edition on at&t.
I'm won't buy the 16gb. I want 32 or 64gb. I'm in UK and Samsung won't reveal anything. 16gb is no good as only 8.9gb is free to users. And all apps and games and app data has to go in phone memory. Not micro sd.
I don't see any reason for AT&T to skip the 32GB, they have it as coming soon. Some speculate that Samsung is pushing the 16GB out first since its more popular but I don't see why they can't get both capacities out, its a pre-order for a reason.
I am porting from Verizon to AT&T so I have to wait and I'm stuck on a crappy old flip phone while I wait. I didn't want to get stuck hold the bag on my last phone and lose the value on it. My hope is its shortly after launch, but my fear is it could be a month or two after launch. No more Verizon, so AT&T better step up.
If they have a sku for the 32GB GS4, then its clearly planned, just a timing issue.
we are all just speculating of course but if they focused all manufaturing on one model (qualcomm 16gb) then they are more likely to meet demand rather then if they fragmented at launch and possibly missed shipping on multiple models. just a WAG tho...
Watch out on ebay.. There suckering people with 32GB S4 = 16GB(internal) + 16GB(microSD)
I spoke to sammy today and they have no info on 32gb models. As i said i just sucked it up and got the 16gb today. I have a 64gb sd card anyways.
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I spoke to sammy today and they have no info on 32gb models. As i said i just sucked it up and got the 16gb today. I have a 64gb sd card anyways.
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My S2 Skyrocket has 16 GB internal memory and I have never come close to filling it. However, it all depends on how people use their phones. I don't use mine for music or movies (at this time) so my biggest storage issues are phone related (nandroids, Apps, pictures and videos, etc...) and I usually use the external SD for the pics and vids. But here is why I want the 32 GB model:
1. If I ever find myself in a situation that I need or want to take a lot of videos and pictures but don't have an extra SD card with me or a way to transfer them to another media. It would suck to run out of storage when it is really needed.
2. 32 GB might not be needed (by me) right now, but with larger and better apps, games, and similar being developed, it can't hurt. In the future it will be welcome.
3. The 32 GB model will look better than the 16 GB model when / if I ever want to sell it.
4. External SD cards crap out all of the time. Having enough onboard storage to temporarily back up important info, pics, and vids will be nice.
Of course, like I said, everybody's experience differs and some people definitely need more than 16 GB to start with.
If the 32GB isn't offered, I guess there won't be a choice.
I'm just fine with my 80GB model.
A lot of chatter, but really.... if you want it soon get the 16gb version. if 32gb is important to you, then wait. No point whining about the fact 32gb isn't available yet. 16gb will be the most popular by far, it makes sense they started there.
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A lot of chatter, but really.... if you want it soon get the 16gb version. if 32gb is important to you, then wait. No point whining about the fact 32gb isn't available yet. 16gb will be the most popular by far, it makes sense they started there.
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Thanks for your opinion but the thread is about the 32 GB version so there is no point in you calling OP related issues "whining". As stated, I (and many others) would like the 32 GB version so any information about it is certainly welcome.
I know, some people just never read the fine print. I am just sitting idle until AT&T says something.
Wheres the 64GB love? Can I get a 9500 (ex5410) + 64GB + LTE is that too much to ask?
is there any way of loading apps on the sd card? 16gb seems awful low
I'm waiting as well
"Life Companion" at 16GB ..
Last i read was the 32gb will be available when the s4 is officially avail April 30th. But I would not hold my breath as it was not from a credible source. I too am waiting for the 32gb as 16gb just won't cut it.
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My s4 is showing 8gb storage any ideas why?
If you have the 16GB version of the S4.
You will have been 8-9 gb free, the rest is used by firmware and partitions.
how do you have a storage issue? buy a 64 gb sd card and never worry again!
just use the 16gb internal for apps & maybe a few ROMs
You can't install apps to a micro sd card though..
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nobody suggested installing apps to the sd card. 8gb should be more than enough for most apps. if it isnt enough for the ones you use, return it and get the 32gb version
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nobody suggested installing apps to the sd card. 8gb should be more than enough for most apps. if it isnt enough for the ones you use, return it and get the 32gb version
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There is no plans for anything higher in UK though then 16gb must be wla way around it
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9 gigs is so tight x:
after 2 bigger games, 3 mid sized ones and all your apps it's full... thank god for FolderMount
9 gb is cutting it close, one of the reasons m getting the phone is bcoz Galaxy s phones r so good at high end games.
this might be a deal breaker
It's a joke. Samsung claim they are selling the S4 in 3 memory sizes and now won't bring 32/64gb to UK. For a top phone you need more internal memory for apps and games.
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It's a joke. Samsung claim they are selling the S4 in 3 memory sizes and now won't bring 32/64gb to UK. For a top phone you need more internal memory for apps and games.
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they will come, eventually.
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they will come, eventually.
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I don't have your confidence based on previous track history. And what I have been told. I wish for a miracle though
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I don't have your confidence based on previous track history. And what I have been told. I wish for a miracle though
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well didn't they sell the SIII in all three versions there?
and they weren't released at the same time, so I would be inclined to guess that it would be the same with the S4
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well didn't they sell the SIII in all three versions there?
and they weren't released at the same time, so I would be inclined to guess that it would be the same with the S4
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Just 16gb. Same for Note 2 in the UK.
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well didn't they sell the SIII in all three versions there?
and they weren't released at the same time, so I would be inclined to guess that it would be the same with the S4
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32 & 64GB were never sold in the UK.
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Just 16gb. Same for Note 2 in the UK.
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32 & 64GB were never sold in the UK.
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seriously thought I had heard about some pre-orders last year, sorry then :/
it's not coming to my country either, neither did the SIII so yeah.
just as ****ed as you as I wanted the 32GB version
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
Well...Just contact service support of samsung
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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Maybe but I came from S3, but isn't 8Gb too much for just bloatware? On my previous S3, the total available internal memory was 11.25gb. I would understand the 4.75Gb reduction because of the OS (I already have removed some bloatware) But 8Gb?
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but saying the device has 16gb storage when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but come on saying the device has 16gb when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
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This is why I Bought a 16GB extSD Card
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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Lol, ehat if I tell you that my xperia arc has only 420 mb of internal storage, the os takes 200 mb, but I have 359 mb FREE, I don't know how
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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well true, but it has always been this way. not sure of any phone with internal memory that wasn't partially used by the phones OS, even non-android phones are like this, even iOS
Same issue with windows and Mac computers lol. But yes, I agree that 32 Gb should be new min standard because of app size increases as the years go by.
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Partially used is ok. Not 50% used. Big difference. And there needs to be a warning apps/games cannot be saved on the sd card - forget tweaks that's for tech geeks not the average person.
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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Well they neber stated 16gbs free or 16gb useable...so what woupd report them for? You expecting more?
Every device is like this...some more than others. But even blank hardrives/flash drives don't have as much as they claim...buy a terabyte blank hard drive and your actually only getting 9XXgb hard drive
And you cant really base it off the s3 as every year the system partition gets larger taking up more space...due to more features/bloat being added. The worst part is not even debloating will increase your free memory as the whole system partition needs to be changed if you want more user space
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So now we are justifying why it is ok for companies to do this? surely not. So if the S5 is 16gb with 4gb free that will be ok then?
no, its not ok, but you can try emailing samsung instead of beating a dead horse here
but here's the thing. hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for decades. when they say 16gb they dont mean gigabyte, they mean 16 billion bytes. there is a difference.
hard drive makers use base 10 in computing hard drive sizes, so when you see 16gb it really means 16 billion bytes which is less than what you think you are getting. those who understand binary know the difference. in base 2, if i say kilobyte, that means 1024 bytes, but on a hard drive, it means 1000 bytes. see the difference?
on my wife's Tmo S4 she has 9.62gb free from her 16gb internal memory, a lot yes, but not half
I have been in touch with Samsung. They blame Google. I've responded and awaiting a further response.
The available memory varies dependant on carrier. 9.62gb is the UK average I believe.
The other issue is Samsung doesn't sell the phone. It gets orders from carriers and wholesalers. The carriers and wholesalers all chose 16gb since they all thought the memory was expandable with sd card along with apps and games being able to be saved on the sd card.
Maybe a few months down the line we will see 32gb versions being available. I am hopeful.
It took three months for the 32GB to happen for the S4 and that was only due to customers bugging them about it.
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It took three months for the 32GB to happen for the S4 and that was only due to customers bugging them about it.
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Yeah I'm concerned they won't be offering it. I don't understand why most of the US carriers won't.
Easier to milk it like Munson. Only offer the 16gb and charge $50 more than everybody else. They would have done the same thing with the M8 if HTC offered one to them.
I am going to try to hold out for the 32gb. My S3 had 32gb, but my S4 only had 16gb and that was a mistake. i would love the new htc but the battery does not come out so that is a no go.
32GB is pretty much and i want it.
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It took three months for the 32GB to happen for the S4 and that was only due to customers bugging them about it.
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That's are good opportunity about increasing flash memory. I think now customer are not bug about this..
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That's are good opportunity about increasing flash memory. I think now customer are not bug about this..
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Yeah good opportunity to flash memory increase they must think about this.
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Yeah good opportunity to flash memory increase they must think about this.
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Hopefully they'll release it soon. I can't imagine 32gb being the minimum these days... and by the way, I have zero games on my 32gb S4 and it's only got about 8 GB free!
I'm not sure if you are interested but I found an app last night that allows me to redirect apps to save on my SD card. It is called foldermount. I just don't know how it will work on the S5 since the sdcard setting are different in kit kat
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Yeah good opportunity to flash memory increase they must think about this.
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Yea.. 32gb memory. Can you explain it.. Must be a good opportunity. But i think is it low capacity bear ?
vzw will do like they did with the s4 and wait until they reach their target of 16gb devices sold before relasing the 32gb. they know from experience the large majority of their customer base won't spend extra for the 32gb on release day. the few people begging for the 32gb didn't change the availability time frame last year and it won't change it this year. plus demand for the s5 seems to be lackluster.
Yeah seems your kinda right about it.
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vzw will do like they did with the s4 and wait until they reach their target of 16gb devices sold before relasing the 32gb. they know from experience the large majority of their customer base won't spend extra for the 32gb on release day. the few people begging for the 32gb didn't change the availability time frame last year and it won't change it this year. plus demand for the s5 seems to be lackluster.
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In this last release they give 32 gb. I think it is good to use another. But why they Bugging with this ?
Extended memory
Yes it would be nice to see 32gb. but you can always bump up external memory to 128gb. which is awesome. I put 64gb on mine and with 16gb. internal that gives me 80gb. so I think I'm set very for now.
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Yes it would be nice to see 32gb. but you can always bump up external memory to 128gb. which is awesome. I put 64gb on mine and with 16gb. internal that gives me 80gb. so I think I'm set very for now.
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Does not help for apps. All depends on the users and the apps they have.
It seems obvious this is a milking strategy, so probably depends on if they offer 32gb when launch sales slow down. I am not too sure they will this time. One less sku to manage. Yep, they have multiple ones with Apple, but Apple is pushy like that and controls supply.