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Hello,
I always wanted a device where i can write with precision anything i want instantly just like i do on paper, and hence i really finding note very useful but the size is making me think twice and hence, I was wondering if it can ever be possible to port things like Memo and note taking applications of the galaxy note to other samsung devices like SGS2 HD Etc..
Also, if i buy a capacitive pen for SGS2 and download any note taking application frm android market can it function close to G.Note?
I have heard samsung will be releasing SDK for Note in december - So will it enable developers to make similar note taking application for other samsung devices ?
PS: Am sry if i had chosen the wrong section to post this.
The Note has a special touch screen for use with the S-pen. So I guess you have to use a normal capacitive pen with any free note app from the market. But the S memo works with finger input too so u should be able to use it with any capacitiv pen.
Try "note everything", free on market...?
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The Note has a special layer on the screen with the possibility to use the S Pen. The Galaxy S2 does not have support for the S Pen, and also not for other pencils/stylus. So you won't be able to use something like a S Pen on your Galaxy S2.
well GS2 can be used with a stylus, have a look at the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpr4s_VCMno&feature=related
Am not sure if notes taking can be done on GS2 as easily as on Note, perhaps some expert can enlighten me.
The note has a Wacom digitizer, the touchscreen does not function at all when using the S-pen... although a capacitive stylus can be used with other devices, in my experience they are next to useless, especially compared to SGN - maybe the size puts you off, but after a couple of weeks with SGN it feels a natural size now!
andyfarmery said:
The note has a Wacom digitizer, the touchscreen does not function at all when using the S-pen... although a capacitive stylus can be used with other devices, in my experience they are next to useless, especially compared to SGN - maybe the size puts you off, but after a couple of weeks with SGN it feels a natural size now!
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+1, Correct
I think in other device use stylus/finger is same
Yes tht wht i had the confusion, tht a phone that doesnt have digitizer can write notes properly like a physical pen+paper.... But i guess Not!
i will be havin a demo of the Note tomm. and i hope i will find it comfortable sitting in my jeans!
I've wanted to use a stylus to write on a pda since windows mobile days where i was sadly disappointed, but the SGN is the first device i have owned that fulfilled my expectations - even the realtime text recognition is surprisingly good!
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As I posted earlier, non-development threads will be closed. Post these types of discussions in General.
Are S3 users missing out too much?
New Gallery with 3D views. Ability to drag and drop photos into albums.
Camera
Slow/Fast motion
Best Face
Low light shot
Multi-Windows
Smart Rotation
Popup Note, Popup Browser
Quick Glance
Screen Recorder
[*]S-Pen required features
Air view
Easy Clip
S Note, S Planner, S Voice, Email with hand-writing
Photo Note
Paper Artist
Quick Command
Formula Match
Shape Match
Idea Visualizer
S Pen Keeper
I think there are even more new small features that I didn't put in list. It’s understandable that samsung didn't put those S-Pen features in our S3 however it’s actually still can be done for some of them. But S3 hardware is able to support the other features and Samsung should have put them in official JB ROM to further enhance our experience. Do you think they will ever come to S3 officially?
The new gallery and camera with the slow and fast motions are available, smart rotation and popup browser got ported as well. And paper artist can be installed with no problems.
Do your research before posting.
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Nocturney said:
The new gallery and camera with the slow and fast motions are available, smart rotation and popup browser got ported as well. And paper artist can be installed with no problems.
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I'm not asking for ports and that's also why I'm posting under general.
nice thread was planning to make one but was 2 lazy thanks.... soon wil b ported here.. we already hav cam, smart rotation, gallery here
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Well the Note 2 was only released a few months after the S3 so you would expect these extra features , there's nothing really "revolutionary" that the Note 2 has that the S3 doesn't,i quite like the gallery in the Note 2 there was a flashable zip doing the rounds but no matter how many times i tried i couldn't get it tio work yet it was working fine when i flashed Dragon ROM (or was it Android Revolution) which had it included already.
kp.nikhil said:
nice thread was planning to make one but was 2 lazy thanks.... soon wil b ported here.. we already hav cam, smart rotation, gallery here
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ya true ...we already have
1. new gallery
2. new camera
3. smart rotation
all ported..
only thing left is multi view
The note 2 gallery´s that i found all have one bug, when set wallpaper from tw give fc
Anyone have a gallery that works 100%?
As soon as I get my device I'm flashing Siyah, then will probably stick to stock, Flash new Camera and gallery and some other Note II stuff.
Either way Phones4u have both phones on display side by side and the Note II has the advantage with software, I just hope Samsung don't be stuck up and decide to bring most of the features to the S3.
If it is about other Samsung devices, and its capabilities which I'd like to have onboard my S3, I would mention 8GB RAM, 1GB Nvidia graphic, and 750GB HDD which I have on my Samsung laptop. It has simcard slot, so can be used as the phone, either.
Guys, RLY? While I can understand that someone would compare 9305 with 9300 because both are phones, calling for Note 2 seems a bit strange...
ups - almost forget to ask that someone should port 5x50W audio output from my Samsung Home Cinema system :laugh:
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If it is about other Samsung devices, and its capabilities which I'd like to have onboard my S3, I would mention 8GB RAM, 1GB Nvidia graphic, and 750GB HDD which I have on my Samsung laptop. It has simcard slot, so can be used as the phone, either.
Guys, RLY? While I can understand that someone would compare 9305 with 9300 because both are phones, calling for Note 2 seems a bit strange...
ups - almost forget to ask that someone should port 5x50W audio output from my Samsung Home Cinema system :laugh:
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Don't confused between hardware and software. Software is flexible while hardware is not. I said no point having s-pen features in s3 but not the other.
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So the note 2 has the same camera assembly as s3? if it is, that is a bummer.
That is what is nice of Android. Everything ported. Devs are awesome!
x92 said:
Are S3 users missing out too much?
New Gallery with 3D views. Ability to drag and drop photos into albums.
Camera
Slow/Fast motion
Best Face
Low light shot
Multi-Windows
Smart Rotation
Popup Note, Popup Browser
Quick Glance
[*]S-Pen required features
Air view
Easy Clip
S Note, S Planner, Email with hand-writing
Photo Note
Paper Artist
Quick Command
Formula Match
Shape Match
S Pen Keeper
I think there are even more new small features that I didn't put in list. It’s understandable that samsung didn't put those S-Pen features in our S3 however it’s actually still can be done for some of them. But S3 hardware is able to support the top 6 features and Samsung should have put them in official JB ROM to further enhance our experience. Do you think they will ever come to S3 officially?
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Underlined are what ported already. Bolded are what not ported yet. I think what most of us really want from Note 2 is Multi Window. We could care less about S Pen stuffs. I know you're talking about Samsung themselves giving it to us (instead of ports from amazing devs), but don't you remember the old days when Samsung refused to give ICS update to Galaxy S I9000? At the end of that device's life span, Samsung pushed an update giving many Galaxy S2 features like Touchwiz 4.0 including a few others. So, my money is on Samsung giving those features to S3 users. But the real question is when.
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Underlined are what is ported already. Bolded are what not ported yet. I think what most of us really want from Note 2 is Multi Window. We could care less about S Pen stuffs. I know you're talking about Samsung themselves giving it to us (instead of ports from amazing devs), but don't you remember the old days when Samsung refused to give ICS update to Galaxy S I9000? At the end of that device's life span, Samsung pushed an update giving many Galaxy S2 features like Touchwiz 4.0 including a few others. So, my money is on Samsung giving those features to S3 users. But the real question is when.
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For the camera, if I'm not wrong only 1/3 of features is ported. Wasn't S3 too early to get value pack treatment? There should be one more android update. I understand what you mean, we might only get them when near eol.
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People keep saying Smart Rotation is ported, but I can't find it anywhere. Any links please? That seems to be the only useful feature Samsung implemented since Galaxy S1.
aydc said:
People keep saying Smart Rotation is ported, but I can't find it anywhere. Any links please? That seems to be the only useful feature Samsung implemented since Galaxy S1.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943987
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Why not use this thread as a count of how many features have been ported and which are not.
Add things like Gallery, Camera, Popup Browser etc with a strike-through on them.
To show that those have been ported, and which have not been.
Cheers.
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added. anyone remember any other features being left out?
galen2 said:
The note 2 gallery´s that i found all have one bug, when set wallpaper from tw give fc
Anyone have a gallery that works 100%?
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Same here, Its there an newer version?
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Samsung Galaxy s4 Official Page CLICK HERE
ARE THESE FEATURE WORTH BUYING OR JUST SAMSUNG GIMMICKS WHICH WE CAN GET SOME TIME LATER ON NOTE 2 ?WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT IT ?
Air Gestures: Refers to hand movements made above the phone's display, without coming into contact with the display, that controls the phone. Common gestures include waving your hand over the display to skip a track or waving left and right to switch between open web pages in the browser. These gestures only work with specific Samsung apps.
Air View: Like the stylus on the Galaxy Note 2, you can hover over the display with your finger to view information about certain pieces of content. For example, hovering your finger over an email shows you a longer preview without opening the message; hovering your finger over a date on the calendar shows you a quick view of what to expect on that day.
Drama Shot: Camera feature that shoots 12 photos at once and shows you a time-lapse of all the action in those photos combined into one picture.
Dual Camera: Activates both the rear camera and the front camera, so that the photographer can superimpose himself or herself into the subject of the photo. Samsung gave as an example someone watching football superimposing himself or herself into the game.
Dual Video Call: While video-chatting with someone, you can show them both your face and the view from your rear camera while you chat.
Group Play: Allows multiple Galaxy S4 owners in close proximity to join a private network in which they can, among other things, play a game.
S Health: New app that acts as a fitness tracker and food diary. The Galaxy S4 has a built-in pedometer to count your steps, and you can take photos of your meals each day to keep count of your calories and eating habits. Samsung will also sell a fitness bracelet, a digital scale and fitness belt to measure blood pressure, pulse, glucose levels and weight for those interested.
S Translator: An app in which you can input any of 10 languages and receive a translation, either spoken or in text. Also works to translate text on your email, text messages and a few other Samsung apps.
S Voice Drive: New hands-free function for drivers that allows the driver to operate the phone with his or her voice.
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
Samsung Adapt Sound: Similar to Adapt Display, your audio can adapt to the content you're listening to (video, music, etc.) and optimize itself to that content.
Samsung Optical Reader: Camera feature that can snap a photo of a business card and import that information into a new contact in your phonebook. Was not working as of demo time, but Samsung reps assured me it would be fixed by the time it shipped to consumers.
Samsung Smart Pause: When watching a video, the front camera can sense when your eyes move away from the screen and pause the video automatically if you aren't looking.
Samsung Smart Scroll: When you are reading an email or article on the web, you can scroll up and down by tilting the device up and down rather than swiping with your finger.
Samsung WatchON: A built-in IR sensor lets you control your television set with your smartphone. Comes with a standard remote and a program guide depending on your cable provider. Can also control certain cable boxes and DVD players.
Share Music: When linked with Group Play, multiple Galaxy S4s can work as surround sound speakers, all playing the same song at once.
Sound & Shot: Allows you to record up to nine seconds of audio at the time of taking each photo.
Story Album: Templates that allow you to create a digital photo journal or scrapbook from a certain event. You can also then order and print out that story album for a fee.
Omg this is exciting I am buying one for sure is there any image of the actual device ??
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hey buddy if you watch the Video of the unpack event you will see all of this features being demonstrated during this event :good:
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hey buddy if you watch the Video of the unpack event you will see all of this features being demonstrated during this event :good:
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I'm not sure I clicked on it and it said it was ended so nothing was being displayed..
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I'm not sure I clicked on it and it said it was ended so nothing was being displayed..
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Its working i've just checked try again :good:
Well it would be nice if some of the features get ported cause I'm not replacing my note 2 any time soon
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Same thoughts here
Gnarfsan said:
Well it would be nice if some of the features get ported cause I'm not replacing my note 2 any time soon
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Agreed, the actual hardware of the s4 isn't that Much better than the Note 2. For my uses the Note 2 is already fast as **** and with plenty 0t battery life. It strikes me that most of the desirable functions of the s4 are software based, and even then I don't think they are exciting enough to make me want to give up the s-pen. It's just too damn handy to be able to use your phone just like a pen & notepad.
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Agreed, the actual hardware of the s4 isn't that Much better than the Note 2. For my uses the Note 2 is already fast as **** and with plenty 0t battery life. It strikes me that most of the desirable functions of the s4 are software based, and even then I don't think they are exciting enough to make me want to give up the s-pen. It's just too damn handy to be able to use your phone just like a pen & notepad.
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well said i agree with you :good: i dont think the there is much that i can go crazy leaving my note 2 behind ,
But i suspect the Drama feature will no be ported on note 2 as it may require Octa processing speed what says guys ?
Crap. I just got my Note II and have only recently thought of playing around with it, trying out a ROM or two.
This will never end!
*cuts credit cards* :laugh:
aukhan said:
well said i agree with you :good: i dont think the there is much that i can go crazy leaving my note 2 behind ,
But i suspect the Drama feature will no be ported on note 2 as it may require Octa processing speed what says guys ?
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Wait, i'm not so expert, but i read about the Octa that works like two separeted Quad. So the point is that S4 is not 2x much powerful, but only for the Ghz of his best Quad... Maybe I'm wrong, but I suppose that will be no problem for the feature that are not requesting the IR sensor or the umidity sensor or something similar.
This air gesture is a pretty old feature which I was using on my old Nokia, it was a 3rd party application that used the front camera to detect the motion of your hands over the screen and swipe photos or pages. Nothing new and certainly not a samsung innovation. Really disappointed as I find it too hyped up.
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My question, has it been rooted yet :silly:
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But i suspect the Drama feature will no be ported on note 2 as it may require Octa processing speed what says guys ?
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Yeah that sounds likely :-\
Btw... Am I the only one who is disappointet by the lack of HDR video?
patience guys......most of the software features on s4 are going to come to the note2..(as confirmed by the top guns at samsung)....but need to wait for the updates..4.2.2
At the first impulse, I wouldn't mind selling my Note 2 and getting an S4, mostly because I think I wouldn't miss the extra screen size (0.5" now) and I would like the decrease in chassis size/weight. Also I'd really like to have an IR emitter to be able to control the TV and other devices.
The other features are mostly software, not a big step up from what I have in the N2.
However, I think I would miss the SPen - I got really used to it and don't consider it a useless gadget anymore. It is great. Extra precision compared to any fingers and a screen that is always clean and shiny.
Plus I finally stopped thinking about battery and plugging in and charging. With the S2 I got an extended huge 2700mAh battery and even that could not compare to the Note2's battery. I now use the device fully from when I get up at 0730 till 1am and when I go to sleep it is usually still around 55% battery. I don't want to go back to a puny battery...
Note 3 will have same spec like S4 with more big screen, battery n S pen..thats for sure if following its history..
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Flagship Phones from Galaxy series (S 3, Note 2) to get new software features
In an interview with PC Mag, Samsung VP of Portfolio Planning, Nick DiCarlo revealed that most of software features found on the Galaxy S4 will make their way to the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note 2 via firmware updates.
Features like the S Translator, S Health, the new S Voice Drive and basically any new software that you can find in Samsung’s Galaxy S4 and isn’t dependent on the new hardware and sensors should be available to the rest of the company’s high-end devices soon.
Whoa this just blasts iphone 5 away. It looks like apple will have to keep up with their 5s.
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dr.m0x said:
Agreed, the actual hardware of the s4 isn't that Much better than the Note 2. For my uses the Note 2 is already fast as **** and with plenty 0t battery life. It strikes me that most of the desirable functions of the s4 are software based, and even then I don't think they are exciting enough to make me want to give up the s-pen. It's just too damn handy to be able to use your phone just like a pen & notepad.
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The s4 would be good for those who have note1 and s3 below (or made the mistake of buying an iPhone 5).
The more i look at it i think it's a Note 2 mini on steroids.
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I love my note 2 but I'm going to change my wife s3 to s4 which looks better in my opinion. I'll wait for note 3. I hope that size will stay pretty same just screen will be stretched like3 on s4 form 5.5 to max 6!
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Honestly now, who really uses the S Pen on a regular basis? And for what functionality?
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KruseLudsMobile said:
Honestly now, who really uses the S Pen on a regular basis? And for what functionality?
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I use mine regularly to scratch the insides of my ears. Beats having to carry q-tips!
I use daily for typing, scrapbook, action memo and pen window. I love the pen improvements over note 2
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Honestly now, who really uses the S Pen on a regular basis? And for what functionality?
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I am now trying to use it for typing (writing). I like the browsing better with pen than fingers, actually, because I always keep the Desktop version of the pages and click with SPen is way more accurate.
I don't know, though, if I will keep doing forever. Have had the phone only for 6 days.
Samsung Slate 7 pen with erase button
Mostly I use an external S-pen from my Samsung Slate 7 win 7 tablet or the internal pen but nearly never my fingers, and not only because the pen does not smear the screen. I bought the Note 2 and 3 only for the pen support as tablet and don't have a sim inside. As phone my wife and I use a Samsung 5722 Dual-Sim cell phone which can last up to a week, to avoid beeing out of battery when we use the Note extensively.
Handwriting recognition is faster then typing and as good as my Samsung Slate 7 win 7 tablet. The erase function is supporte n Note 2 and 3, but requires the erase button on the opposite site of the pens writing tip. Thats why I have a spare pen from my Samsung Slate 7 win 7 tablet right next to my writing pen.
Besides typing and notes taking and small drawings I use it also to scratch my nose.
I take all my work meeting notes etc. on it at meetings. This is a major reason I got it. If you use a normal phone people think you are texting etc. With the pen people can see you are taking notes, setting up appointments, creating tasks, etc. Then you can do multi window and do some surfing in the top while you do all this.
I have the Note 3 and the Note 10.1. I won't own any other type of device anymore because I use the pen so much. It is a game changer for me. I think it may be a bigger thing for business and education, and not as much for everyday consumer.
l agree Spen is a game changer
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Not as often as often as I'd like to.
Swype is faster than writing with the pen.
Most webpages are mobile device friendly. Meaning buttons are late enough to press with a finger. Same goes to the android OS.
It's like WinMo 5 or 6 that absolutely required you to use a pen to do regular menial tasks.
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I use daily for typing, scrapbook, action memo and pen window. I love the pen improvements over note 2
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I take all my work meeting notes etc. on it at meetings. This is a major reason I got it. If you use a normal phone people think you are texting etc. With the pen people can see you are taking notes, setting up appointments, creating tasks, etc. Then you can do multi window and do some surfing in the top while you do all this.
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+1 to the above plus I haven't touched the phone with finger since I bought it.
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I use it 95% of the time. For anything: Writing, drawing, general control...
I'm a Wacom Intuos4 user, which I often use instead of a mouse on my laptop, so the Spen feels natural to me.
Bonus, I can eat a sandwich and still use my phone. Also, no smudges on my lovely screen when watching a film in HD
I use it alot ....
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+1 to the above plus I haven't touched the phone with finger since I bought it.
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+1 to the "+1." If it weren't for S Pen/S Note I'd most likely have a LG G2. I have about 100 items in various scrapbooks, tons of S Notes, I use the pen for entering text unless I'm "moving" where I'll use the keyboard, I use it capture items from e-mail, MMS, and the web to either save or forward, and the list goes on. I've been doing this since the Note II/Note 10.1 and now have a N3 and am getting a 3G Note 10.1 2014. Samsung's said 60% of Note-series buyers use the S Pen daily. It's fantastic for productivity users and creatives.
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+1 to the "+1." If it weren't for S Pen/S Note I'd most likely have a LG G2. I have about 100 items in various scrapbooks, tons of S Notes, I use the pen for entering text unless I'm "moving" where I'll use the keyboard, I use it capture items from e-mail, MMS, and the web to either save or forward, and the list goes on. I've been doing this since the Note II/Note 10.1 and now have a N3 and am getting a 3G Note 10.1 2014. Samsung's said 60% of Note-series buyers use the S Pen daily. It's fantastic for productivity users and creatives.
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I wish I had a bit of creativity in me or design ability eh eh I am In graphic art business but totally on prepress and IT side. My wife grabs my N3 and is sketching, drawing etc. She is an iPhone 4s user but it's like a Mickey maous in comparison with N3 and slowly I change her lol. I believe this day next year I will be with N4 and she will have my N3.
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I use it to:
Take notes, mostly in meetings etc.
Occasionally I'll use the action note to set a task for myself, although without a sync, tasks are a bit lame.
Some games are better with a pen.
I find myself opening the calculator in a window quite often now, much more than I used to when you were forced full screen.
Handwriting recognition is pretty amazing
The handwriting recognition is pretty amazing. (If yours isn't working, install the Stylus Beta app). using teh stylus, click on the small stylus icon on the top left of any text input area.
Works in German too.
MyScript Calculator (from the Stylus Beta people) is an great calculator that uses handwriting recognition
Just a few...:good:
today I accompanied my elderly mom to the Doctor and as he was rambling off all these Medical terms I whipped out the ole S-pen and created a Action Memo to capture the Dr's instructions.
A similar incident a few days earlier I was outside at a weekend fair...and the nurse called me with important info...I could barely hear with all the noise but put my phone on speaker, jotted down a contact name and phone number on Action Memo. Later I converted that to a contact..JUST like the commercials!
I used the s-pen a few days ago to draw my home's basement layout for some design work and square footage calculation. Very helpful when showing the flooring salesperson.
Also working on a small business adventure and the S-pen is very handy to sketch out my initial product designs thoughts.
Actually s pen is the only reason why I am using note series. I am also learning to sketch so s pen is really helping me out. Taking notes with s pen daily is also making life easier. If you look at software design structure of note 3, samsung want us to use s pen all the time.
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I sign PDF docs on the fly, using Repligo Reader from the store.
I rarely used the S-pen in my Note 1. Just taking screenshots and writing notes on it, or clipping parts of screens. I didn't like the horrible handwriting recognition it had.
Note 3 on the other hand, I use the Spen regularly for Action Memo and hand writing. The hand writing recognition is brilliant in Note 3. Jotting down a date/time and converting it into an appointment. Jotting down an address then searching it on Google maps.
Hi,
I address the Note 4 who have also the Note 10.1 2014 and can make a comparison to the improvements against the Spen Writing experience of the old Spen. Accuracy, pressure stage etc.
What are the advantages? Worth it?
ducklas1 said:
Hi,
I address the Note 4 who have also the Note 10.1 2014 and can make a comparison to the improvements against the Spen Writing experience of the old Spen. Accuracy, pressure stage etc.
What are the advantages? Worth it?
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I own both. When I bought the Note 10.1, I was using the Note 3, which is closer in software. The writing experience is very similar, that is, it's smooth and the best writing experience available on an Android tablet. The Note 4 feels refined, it has some slight pressure improvements, but we're talking about a very solid experience to begin with. The best improvements with the Note 4 are with the refinement of the content gathering (I greatly prefer it) and the integration with Action Memo's etc. SNote and it's tie in to the OS is better on the Note 4.
The inescapable advantage of the Note 10.1 is writing space. It seems the most obvious thing in the world, but the SPen makes more sense on the tablet. It's more natural and enjoyable to use there to keep notes, sketch, etc. Despite the improvements on the Note 4, if I want to use the stylus, I want to use my tablet. It's natural there.
I'm sure opinions will vary, but if you want to keep written notes, this is the best tablet in this range of price. It has an amazing screen with great color. I've used a multitude of tablets, including iPads, etc. and this is my favorite. I'm not completely satisfied with the Android tablet experience all the time, but it's a fantastic device for my needs. Yes, it's worth it.
guthrien said:
I own both. When I bought the Note 10.1, I was using the Note 3, which is closer in software. The writing experience is very similar, that is, it's smooth and the best writing experience available on an Android tablet. The Note 4 feels refined, it has some slight pressure improvements, but we're talking about a very solid experience to begin with. The best improvements with the Note 4 are with the refinement of the content gathering (I greatly prefer it) and the integration with Action Memo's etc. SNote and it's tie in to the OS is better on the Note 4.
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Some insight, Spen core functionality is the pen been detected on hover and on the screen precisely, and detection the button press. Everything from gestures to Samsung apps and multiwindow multitast functionality are Touchwiz features and not Spen's.
This said, i want to know a little bit more if you will.
Are the pressure sensitivity and pen tilting detection really noticeable; are they worth it?
I also wanted to know which parts changed to update those core functionality. To do some kind of diagnosis on what changed to see if we can get some of those goodies please answer:
Are the note 102014 pen and the note 4 pens interchangable?
If you use the Note 102014 pen on the note 4 do you feel it works witht the same quality? do pen tilting and preassure sensitivity work?
If you use the Note 4 pen on the note 10 does it maintains the pressure sensitivity levels and the tilting function?
Thanks in advance. To explain myself there are 3 things that could have change for the update; the device hardware, the device software and the pen hardware. If the device hardware stayed the same there is a possibility for us to have a great update from changing the pen, updating the software, or both for a better experience on our tablet; if not, sadly there is only buying the next galaxy note 10.
I have both, I use my note 4 pen almost exclusively with the tablet now. It's more sensitive and has better angle accuracy
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Joey121215 said:
I have both, I use my note 4 pen almost exclusively with the tablet now. It's more sensitive and has better angle accuracy
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Thank you. So the pen is the one that makes the improvement, that is great news for everyone who want an improved experience but don't want to upgrade device anytime soon.
Pazzu510 said:
Thank you. So the pen is the one that makes the improvement, that is great news for everyone who want an improved experience but don't want to upgrade device anytime soon.
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I wish it would be that way, but i think the display is also important or the wacom chip in the device itself. Correct me if i am wrong.
Not the case if you read joey121215's post few messages above.
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ducklas1 said:
I wish it would be that way, but i think the display is also important or the wacom chip in the device itself. Correct me if i am wrong.
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The thing is that there is not much, from what i know, of the wacom digitizer. It is supposed to be a plate behind the screen that creates an electromagnetic field over the screen; this induces power to the pen and at the same time detects it on an XY plane very precisly. The pen at the same time sends information regarding the pressure been applied to the pen tip and if the button is pressed.
With this in mind i can not think of any substancial change on that component that would create the magnetic field differently and thus rendering the technologies(note 4 and note 10 pens) not compatible. These changes must be only on the pen to send more usefull information and of that reciever to be able to recieve that information. The interpretation of that information is up to the drivers. So if the reciever can indeed manage to recieve this plus information we would only need a driver update(if it is not already installed) and a pen that sens the pen tilting information and more preassure sentisivity information too.
I could be completely wrong with my theory so please correct me and let me learn more from the topic.
The pen of the note 10.1 doesnt report distance from screen, angle or tilt. If the new spen reports that that would be great! I'm not sure if the wacom digititzer in the 10.1 actually supports all this data.
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Shouldn't be too hard to test for a note 4 and 10.1 2014 owner. ArtRage sports angle support on the note 4. Can an owner of both devices side load and see if the pencil tool widens when they draw tilted with the note4 pen?
The stylus is passive, it's the digitiser that brings the extra features. I have both devices and the styluses are interchangeable but using the Note 4 stylus on the Note 10.1 doesn't make any difference whatsoever.
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iridaki said:
The stylus is passive, it's the digitiser that brings the extra features. I have both devices and the styluses are interchangeable but using the Note 4 stylus on the Note 10.1 doesn't make any difference whatsoever.
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Thanks for the information. Not necessarily true but what @Sess says can be important. The information transfer not only depends on the tablet digitizer and the drivers(which we may be missing here), it also depends on the app and whether it uses this information or not. On what app did you try?
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Not necessarily true but what @Sess says can be important. The information transfer not only depends on the tablet digitizer and the drivers(which we may be missing here), it also depends on the app and whether it uses this information or not. On what app did you tried?
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Lecture Notes, so the same app on both devices.
Lecture notes does not use the vector value angle function in the api. Try artrage, its free for note 4 owners and you can sideload it to you 10.1. The apk has also been dumped in this forum. Looking ft orward to a hopefully positive result.
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Lecture notes does not use the vector value angle function in the api. Try artrage, its free for note 4 owners and you can sideload it to you 10.1. The apk has also been dumped in this forum. Looking ft orward to a hopefully positive result.
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Thank you, I'll try tonight and post the results. Stay tuned!
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I attached a quick and dirty testing app for the stylus. It reports coordinates, distance, pressure, tilt and a few other things. The one thing to look out for is "tilt". For me this value stays 0 all the time. Apparently the digititzer also reports the distance to the screen, this value seems to be really inaccurate, it varies from 2 to 7 when touching the screen.
Is that on the note 4 or 10.1? And with which stylus?
I have a note 10.1 with the default stylus. The app just shows the information that the android system reports, so you can see what the stylus supports.
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I attached a quick and dirty testing app for the stylus. It reports coordinates, distance, pressure, tilt and a few other things. The one thing to look out for is "tilt". For me this value stays 0 all the time. Apparently the digitizer also reports the distance to the screen, this value seems to be really inaccurate, it varies from 2 to 7 when touching the screen.
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It doesn't looks inaccurate, i see values between 2 and 3 when touching the screen; remember that it represents the distance from the digitizer under the screen and not directly the distance from the crystal.
The tilt value should only appear when using a galaxy note 4 spen or something similar(A pen that has the hardware to sen that information), but if you coded the app and were able to access that information, even if it is null for now, it seems that we got, at least, the drivers to receive that information. Cross your fingers to have the hardware to actually receive that info and we will be able to have a magnific update to our tabs by only updating pen. Too sad i orderd an amazon pen that most probably only supports 1024 pressures and no tilt.
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add the lines onCreate
For me distance varies if I press harder and also when I move the pen faster on the screen. The android api doesn't give me any information on the features supported by the stylus. That it reports 0 means nothing special. If you run it on a phone that doesn't even have a stylus it will still report 0.
Attached new version with fullscreen mode.