I've read elsewhere that the new S4 bootloader has locked.
Can someone verify this?
How does it affect the usage of the device?(i.e CM,AOSP etc)
So far only on the AT&T and Verizon models.
They'll have root for now but no custom recovery/roms.
ChronoReverse said:
So far only on the AT&T and Verizon models.
They'll have root for now but no custom recovery/roms.
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I just want to know a bit more about it...I've got the I9505 model,which is definately not AT&T or Verizon.
But it's not confirmed yet,isn't it?
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I just want to know a bit more about it...I've got the I9505 model,which is definately not AT&T or Verizon.
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The AT&T and Verizon bootloader is locked, which will restrict flashing roms and kernels but not root for those devices until the bootloader is unlocked. The international versions seem to be not locked so that does apply to all the octa versions.
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short story: the international isn't the carriers are
effect on dev gives them a extra work to do
inlineboy said:
The AT&T and Verizon bootloader is locked, which will restrict flashing roms and kernels but not root for those devices until the bootloader is unlocked. The international versions seem to be not locked so that does apply to all the octa versions.
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Is there any simple way to find out whether is locked or not?
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Is there any simple way to find out whether is locked or not?
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There isn't sadly. People were saying if you boot into download mode and it said Write Protection: Enabled that the bootloader was locked, as is the case for atnt and verizon, but the it says the same thing for sprint and our bootloader does not seem to be locked- it's a bit more complicated to actually know and I don't have the tech knowledge to explain it as well as someone else probably could. Probably should find others with your exact phone in the forum and just read what they have said cause this has been a huge topic over the last few days that everyone has been asking.
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I'm would assume my bootloader is locked but when I got my phone and turned it on for the first time the boot logo said Samsung with a unlocked logo underneath. I haven't seen it again since. I can get into download mode does that mean it's unlocked? If by chance it is not I would love to be able to help I can follow instructions but I'm no developer. Let's hope that it is and that it can help
Edit: found how to tell and I'm just as locked as everyone else. To check get into download mode and in the top left write protection will be enabled if you are.
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You sure you got a new phone? that unlocked logo means its been rooted.... weird you would get one rooted right off the bat.
Im going to be that guy. Should of been in Q&A Section.
But thanks for trying to help!
derek210 said:
Edit: found how to tell and I'm just as locked as everyone else. To check get into download mode and in the top left write protection will be enabled if you are.
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Just so you know, the "WRITE PROTECTION: ENABLED" message has nothing to do with the bootloader being locked. Don't get me wrong; you're still locked up as everyone else, but that particular message is not how you tell.
Questions go in Q&A
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I'm in Mexico and the biggest carrier Telcel is going to have the exclusive on the SGS4 for a couple of months.
Apparently we are going to receive the same version as AT&T (SGH-i337) with Qualcomm processor.
Do you guys think our bootloader is going to be locked? How to know if it is locked?
I'm also from Mexico and would like to know if the BL is unlock.
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I'm also from Mexico and would like to know if the BL is unlock.
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Yeah I would also like to know. Im in Puerto Rico and we have the i337M in our carrier Claro PR and I would like to know how can we tell if bl is locked.
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Hello everyone, I just get ATT galaxy S4, It is so fancy, but ATT's craps sucks.
Does ATT S4's bootloader already been hack by XDAs?
If so, how to unlock it?
I just have the TWRP installed in my ATT galaxy S4, could I flash customized ROM and customized kernel now? Or I have to wait until the bootloader is unlock?
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Hello everyone, I just get ATT galaxy S4, It is so fancy, but ATT's craps sucks.
Does ATT S4's bootloader already been hack by XDAs?
If so, how to unlock it?
I just have the TWRP installed in my ATT galaxy S4, could I flash customized ROM and customized kernel now? Or I have to wait until the bootloader is unlock?
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you should search or look in the developers section
Dude you didn't even try to look in the other forums
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Search is your friend.
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I highly suggest you read...read...and read again
To start you off in the right direction though, read up on Loki as that is our bootloader bypass method...basically anything that has been lokid can be flashed...
But seriously read!!! Don't want to waste a headache and trouble shooting on a soft brick
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go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297900
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The Loki thing still has me confused and curious what folks think... I've been through many of flashes and had good and bad issues over the years but unsure how I feel about flashing up a ATT S4. I've been leaning towards getting a Tmobile S4 with a unlocked bootloader and getting that unlocked since I feel like it will be a bit more bulletproof. Is that paranoia or is Loki close enough to a unlocked bootloader that I can basically do everything with as little risk as would be expected with normal device flashing?
puamystery said:
Hello everyone, I just get ATT galaxy S4, It is so fancy, but ATT's craps sucks.
Does ATT S4's bootloader already been hack by XDAs?
If so, how to unlock it?
I just have the TWRP installed in my ATT galaxy S4, could I flash customized ROM and customized kernel now? Or I have to wait until the bootloader is unlock?
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THIS INFO IS EVERYWHERE! READ MAN. useless thread here serious.
hey there bud, sorry everyone feels the need to repeatedly tell you to search instead of ending the thread with an explanation. im also sorry everyone else feels like this information is readily available, when its the furthest from that. you will require some digging and deduction skills to acquire all the information needed to fully utilize the loki function.
Since att took it upon themselves to lock the bootloader, the kernel has to be properly provisioned before it will allow it to boot (if the kernel is not set up correctly, you will receive an error about unapproved software on the device and will have to restore sans odin....yuck), so our awesome drjbliss and the infamous adamoutlers have provided a tool called "loki" which will allow bypassing of the locked bootloader and allow us to run the custom firmware.
please ensure that whatever ROM you are running has been previously provisioned with loki, or you are flashing a custom kernel that has loki baked in. Alternatively, there is an auto loki tool floating around called "loki doki" that can be flashed after any ROM to pre-loki it before boot.
You can PM me with any specific questions, and all you trolls should learn to help instead of complaining. In the amount of posts it took to complain about the OP not searching, it would have only taken one post to clarify and then this thread would have simply got buried.
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Screwbal said:
The Loki thing still has me confused and curious what folks think... I've been through many of flashes and had good and bad issues over the years but unsure how I feel about flashing up a ATT S4. I've been leaning towards getting a Tmobile S4 with a unlocked bootloader and getting that unlocked since I feel like it will be a bit more bulletproof. Is that paranoia or is Loki close enough to a unlocked bootloader that I can basically do everything with as little risk as would be expected with normal device flashing?
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Loki is close enough to an unlocked bootloader, no worries my friend. Flash away and enjoy!
So, if my phone is unlocked and rooted, do I still need to unlock the bootloader?
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So, if my phone is unlocked and rooted, do I still need to unlock the bootloader?
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What? You can't unlock the bootloader. The i337 never had and never will have a bootloader that can be unlocked
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Lol jd
Bored and just browsing my old S4 threads and see you still get a post in a 7 month old thread about bootloaders which was already answered. [emoji19]
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Lol jd
Bored and just browsing my old S4 threads and see you still get a post in a 7 month old thread about bootloaders which was already answered. [emoji19]
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Some things never change. How have you been?. The iPhone still working?
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jd1639 said:
Some things never change. How have you been?. The iPhone still working?
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Been doing fine jd, thanks. Hope you are too.
Yes, I really like it. Not gonna Jailbreak, but my bank just started accepting Apple Pay. So, going to play with it. Something for an old man to have fun with.
It's just picking up steam as far as number of merchants, so ordered and will mess with the LoopPay FOB where AP isn't used yet. A year ago I would have sworn I would never use this techy stuff for banking. Must be getting soft.
I just won a Galaxy S 4 At&t, but I'm a T-Mobile Guy. The device is coming to me unlocked, if I can get it off of Edge and running correctly, do I flash At&t custom rom or T-Mobile?
I would think At&t and go with the device model but I could be wrong.
i'd flash ATT roms and manually input my tmobile APNs. be sure to follow the correct procedures for rooting/flashing on our bootloader-locked devices. if your device arrives with the MF3 build, read up before you proceed as there are many ways to brick your device on that firmware release. cheers
I would sell it while it's still brand new, unused. Get the maximum dollar for it. Then go and buy a T-Mobile S4.
The biggest reason is, you don't want the AT&T locked bootloader. If you get an OLD S4, then you can flash custom ROM's. If you get an S4 with the most recent firmware on it, then you're screwed and can't flash any custom ROM's.
Either way, if you're not an AT&T user then DON'T get an AT&T S4.
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I would sell it while it's still brand new, unused. Get the maximum dollar for it. Then go and buy a T-Mobile S4.
The biggest reason is, you don't want the AT&T locked bootloader. If you get an OLD S4, then you can flash custom ROM's. If you get an S4 with the most recent firmware on it, then you're screwed and can't flash any custom ROM's.
Either way, if you're not an AT&T user then DON'T get an AT&T S4.
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Well, if he chooses to keep that phone, there's an option BUT ONLY if the phone came with MDB/MDL update. Then he can use loki to bypass the locked bootloader and install custom roms.
Just an option, not great but still an option :cyclops:
Personally, I'd go with CZ Eddie's post lol
Excuse me sir, how can I win an s4?
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The device might update itself if it connects to the network. Don't connect to your wifi until you know what version you have. The MF3 update closes the exploit that was being used to root, I believe.
Hi. So i just bought a i337 i guess this is the at&t right. So i can flash any rom as long as i have the loki kernel right. And yes i have the MDL so i guess is ok. To use loki. And is there a way to do a bootloader unlock?. Thanks
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sg3love said:
Excuse me sir, how can I win an s4?
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PinStack.com has great Anniversary Contests, this was their 9th
bighleo114312 said:
Hi. So i just bought a i337 i guess this is the at&t right. So i can flash any rom as long as i have the loki kernel right. And yes i have the MDL so i guess is ok. To use loki. And is there a way to do a bootloader unlock?. Thanks
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The bootloader is still locked and cannot be unlocked.
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Ahh go here, it will explain how and what to do to run other carriers roms on your newly won g4...
[GUIDE][ROMS]RUN OTHER CARRIER ROMs on AT&T/TMO/Canadian S4 devices. Here's how! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
Welcvome aboard
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Recently I purchased a note 3 off ebay to use tell Im available for an upgrade. I'm not sure what software version is on it cause I haven't gotten it. Just have a few questions.
Is the only way you can root is in 4.4.2 ?
If the phone comes can't I downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4 and them to 4.4.2.
Please understand I'm new to Samsung so not sure it all works. Coming from all htc devices like DNA and one max.
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no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
nijom said:
no, you can root Lollipop as well.
there are ways to downgrade but you have to be careful...
Look out for threads in General section and work on the method specific to your model (about downgrade)
this is for N900 http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/safe-to-downgrade-ll-to-kk-sm-n900-t3016966 :angel:
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Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
thayl0 said:
Thank you for the quick reply is the n900 and n900v the same thing cause !my model coming is the n900v
Do you think I should try to root lollipop before I try to downgrade.
Wouldn't I follow this guide to root and install trwp n custom rom after.
https://youtu.be/eDHSXn5KwAw
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Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
kenny1991 said:
Do not downgrade. Why would you do that?
No it is not the same, flashing other variants roms will brick yours. Or supersu twrp etc.
V is for Verizon
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Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
thayl0 said:
Could you please link me to an guide on n900V and how to root it on lollipop. Samsung and HTC devices are way different in how to do things and I don't want to screw up. Hopefully you understand.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Verizon version is not rootable, nor does it accept custom recoveries. You better choose another variant, if that is important to you.
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Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
kenny1991 said:
Because it has locked bootloader, right?
So there is no way to unlock the bootloader like with Sonys? Like asking for unlock code from Verizon?
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You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
jisoo said:
You are correct. Samsung phones all come bootloader unlocked, unless the carriers wants them locked (as was the case with Verizon and AT&T for the Note 4).
The locked versions have almost never successfully been unlocked.
So if you can, stay away from these two variants.
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Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
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Then why are people saying I can root it.... I do know the phone is coming networked unlocked. I find it crazy that if you can't unlock a verizon bootloader that there are roms that support verizon.
So what your telling me is there's no possible way to root even on stock so i can run xposed framework.?
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Some firmware versions have vulnerabilities, which can be exploited to gain root/install safestrap. Some versions allow downgrading to vulnerable versions. But not all.
You should check the Verizon forums for more information http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3.
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Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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Sorry, I don't know much about the US carriers, so don't know how they interoperate.
thayl0 said:
Will do. But say I buy a note 3 that either from Sprint or T-Mobile and install custom rom want I be able to use Verizon but only if I have a custom rom?
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No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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No. Verizon uses CDMA and will not allow 3rd party phones on their network. T-Mobile uses GSM and will NOT work on Verizon network. Period. You MUST use a Verizon branded device on Verizon network.
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Well, just got the phone in the mail and it seems that it came with 5.0 so I guess I'm outta luck for root. First phone I've ever had that I can't root. I'm sad aha
I come from rooted HTC phones, and need some help. Samsung Verizon version seems particular. I am looking for better or best battery life, in comparison to my current kernel. Please see screenshots. Thanks!
As far as I know you can't flash custom kernels on the G900V, sorry :/
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Verizon versions have locked bootloaders, no way to install custom recovery, so too bad.
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Verizon versions have locked bootloaders, no way to install custom recovery, so too bad.
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Before telling other people to do research before posting - why not take some of your own advice
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
Verizon bootloader has been unlocked for days now
*Detection* said:
Before telling other people to do research before posting - why not take some of your own advice
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
Verizon bootloader has been unlocked for days now
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It's been unlocked as a proof of concept as part of private research, that is not released and for the masses its still locked.
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Yeah... Nice try there, the hypocrisy....