Why change it? Just rendered 20 tags useless to me.
Is this going to be an ongoing thing with NFC technology? is this a once off change? Why the HELL are these things not backwards compatible (the chips, not the tags!)
Where can I find 1kb tags for the S4 at a reasonable price and what model # are they?
Ridiculous.
http://tagsfordroid.com/store/2-ntag203-bundle-with-free-nfc-keychain.html
Those NTAG from their website are all working
That's only a 144 byte tag though
That's still plenty of space. There are MILFARE nfc chips, but if you read the description are not working with S4, neither Nexus. I'm sure there are no alternatives yet.
wizzbang3 said:
Why change it? Just rendered 20 tags useless to me.
Is this going to be an ongoing thing with NFC technology? is this a once off change? Why the HELL are these things not backwards compatible (the chips, not the tags!)
Where can I find 1kb tags for the S4 at a reasonable price and what model # are they?
Ridiculous.
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apparently the old tags were not spec compliant and not supported by other NFC readers.
The old tags were proprietary and Samsung switched to non-proprietary standard tags.
Still raises the question of why they didn't use the standard tags in the first place
Anyone know where I can get good, cheap tags? 1kb? under 1.30$ US per tag?
I need about 10.
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Anyone know where I can get good, cheap tags? 1kb? under 1.30$ US per tag?
I need about 10.
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I picked up 10 on amazon for $8.49 NFCguize I believe are the brand
The only time you should need more than even a 100 bytes in my experience is if you are storing data on the tag. Such as encoding "Here is a three thousand character long string" on the tag, as opposed to using something like NFC Task Launcher for automata of things like Wi-Fi/Car Mode/whatever. In which case it's just a waste of money.
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Anyone know where I can get good, cheap tags? 1kb? under 1.30$ US per tag?
I need about 10.
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I dont believe these new tags have that kind of storage(and its not needed btw)...and i think they wont be changing the tech now..at least not in near future..now the chip is compatible with the nfc standards..that s why the change was made..
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Since the nexus s has it, why doesn't the xoom? I know its kind of early, but this is a google experience device.
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It's kinda big to be hauling out at the checkout stand to swipe across the reader, don'tcha think?
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Since the nexus s has it, why doesn't the xoom? I know its kind of early, but this is a google experience device.
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It's actually a google experience tablet and that would be retarded.
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I fail to see why you think it would be in the Xoom.
Would you pull your Xoom out before your wallet?
"Oh hey an NFC card I can swipe! Let me open up my backpack and take out my Xoom"
.... NFC is really made for phones. Seems horribly inconvenient to pull out a 10" tablet to swipe an NFC tag.
You all are missing the point...
Every post here criticizing "Souviets" post are missing the point. You all are automatically thinking that NFC is only for payment systems. The NFC option can be used for several things. I'm currently working on a project that uses NFC as a means to recognize spaces in a building. Open your view... it's not a dumb question.
The Xoom is already expensive enough having problem competing with entry level ipad2. Surely it does not need more near unnecessary gedget to drive the price up.
you want NFC on your plasma tv too? weird...
the whole point of NFC is to implement it on stuff you already use on the go (phones)
Not mobile enough + unwieldy to hold in awkward positions = bad for NFC tagging (in my opinion).
Obviously some may disagree with quite specific NFC uses, but I think it's about right for all but the most esoteric. One specialized use, which I would have appreciated would have been to use NFC to make a pseudo-smart cover for the XOOM. Until NFC is added to HC tablets, though, we still have Killswitch! (Yes, I just self-linked my own XDA Homepage article...)
I agree thats its weird its not there. Its about more than just "checking out" with.
Still more surprised there's no haptic feedback than NFC
Although I haven't missed it much when typing
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I think the smaller tablets will have it first.
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Every post here criticizing "Souviets" post are missing the point. You all are automatically thinking that NFC is only for payment systems. The NFC option can be used for several things. I'm currently working on a project that uses NFC as a means to recognize spaces in a building. Open your view... it's not a dumb question.
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nfc is not just for making payments - it is a low power way to exchange any information. The xoom is of course portable - i carry it with me everywhere
Perhaps it could be used to swipe over a point and get a train timetable - would be much better than a phone for this i think
I heard the nexus 7 comes with NPC. what is that?
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I heard the nexus 7 comes with NPC. what is that?
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If playing an Online game, you may encounter and NPC (Non-Player Character).
I think you might be referring to NFC (Near Field Communication) is what I think that stands for. It among other things, allows you to use Google Wallet (if compatible) to use your device to pay at retailers that have NFC compatible payment systems.
You wave your device over their device and done..
This also allows for other interesting interactions between your phone and NFC tags.
Hope that helps,
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If playing an Online game, you may encounter and NPC (Non-Player Character).
I think you might be referring to NFC (Near Field Communication) is what I think that stands for. It among other things, allows you to use Google Wallet (if compatible) to use your device to pay at retailers that have NFC compatible payment systems.
You wave your device over their device and done..
This also allows for other interesting interactions between your phone and NFC tags.
Hope that helps,
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It also has to do with android beam which allows you to "beam" things like apps and web pages over to other nfc enabled android devices with android 4.x
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I just recently found out about NFC tags and I'm wondering what brand I should buy, and what chip I should get for the Note 4. Any information is appreciated.
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I just recently found out about NFC tags and I'm wondering what brand I should buy, and what chip I should get for the Note 4. Any information is appreciated.
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All NFC tag will work with NFC enabled smartphones (like Note4)
For example you can buy Sony Smart-Tags & Manage its tag with Smart Connect App
the thing is you need nfc tag & an app that manage tasks
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Geeks Empire said:
All NFC tag will work with NFC enabled smartphones (like Note4)
For example you can buy Sony Smart-Tags & Manage its tag with Smart Connect App
the thing is you need nfc tag & an app that manage tasks
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Not quite. I can't say for other brands, but the original Samsung NFC tags worked with the Note 2 but the Note 3 required NFC 2 tags. Hopefully they will still work with the Note 4.
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I just recently found out about NFC tags and I'm wondering what brand I should buy, and what chip I should get for the Note 4. Any information is appreciated.
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I had the same question about NFC tags when I had my S4. The biggest factor I found out was whether the tag is compatible with NFC Forum protocols. The older Mifare Classics tags are super cheap but aren't always compatible (they weren't with my S4.) You'll want to buy tags that are compatible with NFC Forum protocols, such as the NTAG203 or the Topaz 512.
We'll know for sure what tags are compatible once the phone is out. I've got a pile of NTAG203's laying around so I'll be ready to test those.
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All NFC tag will work with NFC enabled smartphones (like Note4)
For example you can buy Sony Smart-Tags & Manage its tag with Smart Connect App
the thing is you need nfc tag & an app that manage tasks
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Not quite. I can't say for other brands, but the original Samsung NFC tags worked with the Note 2 but the Note 3 required NFC 2 tags. Hopefully they will still work with the Note 4.
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thebrain2u said:
I had the same question about NFC tags when I had my S4. The biggest factor I found out was whether the tag is compatible with NFC Forum protocols. The older Mifare Classics tags are super cheap but aren't always compatible (they weren't with my S4.) You'll want to buy tags that are compatible with NFC Forum protocols, such as the NTAG203 or the Topaz 512.
We'll know for sure what tags are compatible once the phone is out. I've got a pile of NTAG203's laying around so I'll be ready to test those.
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Thanks for the information, I did not know I needed to download an app and I hope the NTAG203s work with the Note 4.
Now that the phone has been out a few weeks, has anyone expirimented to see which tags work? I want to pick some up and play with some NFC commands, but not sure which type to get.
I have used tags for a while.
I have just tried my note 4 on the tags I have programmed and worked on 3 different devices, S3, M8 and nexus 7, however with the note4 I get a compatibility error 'unknown tag type'
I even tried some fresh tags I have never programmed and got the same error.
The problem is I cannot remember what type of tags they were as I have had them for a while. I think they were milfaire......
I am also just starting to research and play around with the NFC technology. I am hoping it is a little more reliable that Llama was with geofencing or Wifi detection to change phone states/settings.
I purchased these and they should arrive this week http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E0NRESE/
I am also thinking about getting the Topaz 512 variants for the additional storage space like these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS4AF0S/
These are both "type 2" NFC chips. Depending on what you want to do, any Type 2 chip should easily store settings changes. If you want to store a lot of data or use fields, like with a business card, then you'll probably need to go to a type 4 chip.
I recommend staying away from the 1K chips as they are not as compatible. An example would be these that you would not want to get - http://www.amazon.com/Tags-Chip-Pack-Keychain-Bonus/dp/B00CE6QGLU/
Topaz 512's work
I ordered some Topaz512 chips to experiment with and received them yesterday. I can confirm that the Topaz512 do work with Note 4.
http://www.amazon.com/NFC-tags-NFC-..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1415281055&sr=1-2
note 4 nfc tags
soooooo nope they don't work,I had a Note 3 and the tags I used do not work on the note 4, confirmed by Samsung Canada..you need the Samsung tactile 2..can't find them anywhere..soooo I only use NFC to communicate between my old note 3 (given to the misses) and my note 4...and I thought only Apple did the scam to change everything a bit so you'd have to buy everything again...
Galaxy Note Edge sucks at reading tags
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I ordered some Topaz512 chips to experiment with and received them yesterday. I can confirm that the Topaz512 do work with Note 4.
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So I bought the Topaz 512 chips and I am having issues with them being read by my Galaxy Note 4 Edge. There wouldn't be a difference with the Note 4 and Note 4 edge would there? My phone does end up reading them but it takes multiple taps- like 6 or seven before it reads it. Does not really save any time, I usually just give up and do the NFC task manually. I do not know if I am doing something wrong or what. Anyone else experiencing this? My first thought is that I have Tasker, NFC Tools and an app called MyLog that all can write to tags, could it be that the phone doesnt know what to use? I never have any issue with Tap and Pay. Any suggestions?
Necropost here. Is there an answer?the old tags I used with the s3 don't work, who knows what tags work for sure
Edit: the last post was on my birthday last year. weird.
This is probably a stupid question, but does anyone know of a custom ROM that does, or possibly will in the future, support NFC?
What so need of that crap?
NFC technology is just like infrared. Beside getting faster connection, it does not have that much advantage.
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NFC technology is just like infrared. Beside getting faster connection, it does not have that much advantage.
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Android Pay for a start.
I highly doubt that a custom ROM would ever support NFC on the G4 Play - as far as I'm aware of doesn't have the hardware to support it in the first place.
I suppose if someone did a hardware mod like attaching an NFC chip and antenna to the battery cover and hooked it up through the USB port, but that's all I could come up with.
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I highly doubt that a custom ROM would ever support NFC on the G4 Play - as far as I'm aware of doesn't have the hardware to support it in the first place.
I suppose if someone did a hardware mod like attaching an NFC chip and antenna to the battery cover and hooked it up through the USB port, but that's all I could come up with.
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The G4 Play does have NFC... At least, mine does
Right, so I guess not all models have it... I've got an unlocked XT1607 (2GB/16GB, US) and it doesn't have it.
Found a bit more info - I guess some of the non-US versions might have it (the XT1604 comes up), but I haven't seen it at all in the one that I've got here.
That's what I get for assuming they all didn't have one since most of the hardware specs seem to be shared otherwise...
Its a little odd, really, some having it but others not. I had presumed the only differences between them were storage capacity since that's a common theme among manufacturers and their device variants.
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Its a little odd, really, some having it but others not. I had presumed the only differences between them were storage capacity since that's a common theme among manufacturers and their device variants.
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from my understanding US doesn't have NFC, all others do. I found out when I bought mine. Sales person assured me it had NFC. Of course I went to set it up in the store and it wasn't there. Wasn't a dealbreaker for me but it would have been nice to have.
Yes, some version of G4 Play has NFC. For example my XT1604 is 16GB storage, 1 GB RAM and NFC inside. It is model for EU region.
I just bought an iTouch Air 2 smartwatch. But I cannot find ANY - I mean ANY - info on the tech specs, even on their supposed website.. It is available in many stores like Macy's, or Kohl's or Target etc. The website for the watch is
https://itouchwearables.com/products/itouch-air-2?variant=12482537717783
I cannot even add a new watch face besides the 3 pre-installed, which are pretty bad.
I would appreciate any info on this watch, and also if it can be hacked .... Thanks!!
chappatti said:
I just bought an iTouch Air 2 smartwatch. But I cannot find ANY - I mean ANY - info on the tech specs, even on their supposed website.. It is available in many stores like Macy's, or Kohl's or Target etc. The website for the watch is
https://itouchwearables.com/products/itouch-air-2?variant=12482537717783
I cannot even add a new watch face besides the 3 pre-installed, which are pretty bad.
I would appreciate any info on this watch, and also if it can be hacked .... Thanks!!
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From the fcc pictures, it has a mt2502dv so it's an embedded CPU so no full android so you have limited hacking other than switching the watch face.
Google 2ALERITAIR2017 to get the pictures for yourself
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From the fcc pictures, it has a mt2502dv so it's an embedded CPU so no full android so you have limited hacking other than switching the watch face.
Google 2ALERITAIR2017 to get the pictures for yourself
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Thank you so much!
Yes, I found the FCC pages, but there were only pics of the inside. I am not competent enough to figure out what it is. So thanks again.
Have you come across any kind of hacking for this hardware? I found a few Chinese pages, but is it possible to even modify the software in any way?
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Thank you so much!
Yes, I found the FCC pages, but there were only pics of the inside. I am not competent enough to figure out what it is. So thanks again.
Have you come across any kind of hacking for this hardware? I found a few Chinese pages, but is it possible to even modify the software in any way?
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There is misc threads here on xda, but they don't seem to have progressed very much sadly.
Looking for info on any iTouch wearables devices. Especially the Air and Curve.
Like those before me, I've had an incredibly difficult time finding any technical info. Shame considering how cheap and widely available this device is.
The air is particularly puzzling as how to proceed. The charging port is not a standard USB and looks like there is no data transfer that route. Though I never before thought to ask this question, Google indicates others have: It may be possible to flash firmware over Bluetooth...
I got an Air as a gift, so no real loss if I mangle it beyond repair in the process of exploring. Given how cheap these things are, for $50 I'd even pick up a couple extra.
I'd like to be able to control smart-home devices via the watch. I think I could rig up something to communicate with a full Android device via Bluetooth -- like using a push notification or even sms to trigger an event - like to change a setting on my home thermostat.... but that's just circumventing the limitations of the iTouch and not actually adding something useful, so kinda boring.
What I'd really like to do is customize the interface on the watch itself.