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Will the Incredible be subject to the same N1 3g issues?

Pretty much as topic, not sure if anyone has any first hand experience of it.

higly doubt that since i heard 3g issues were because of tmobile. So far i havent heard of bad reception from the early incredible reviewers but we wont know till its out.

i doubt it... seeing as how the chipset is different(cdma chipset not gsm) and the carrier is different... your results may very tho...
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Sorry I wasnt very specifc, I was thinking in the UK, O2 to be specific. N1 and BBerry Bold 9000 sitting next to each other, N1 on not even half 2G, BBerry on max 3g.

Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?

Honestly77 said:
Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?
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I was hoping we would eventually get a UK version, but obviously we've just been shafted with the desire.... WE HAD THE N1 ALREADY WHY GIVE US THE SAME PHONE

Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.

I just made the move from T-mo Nexus one to the Incredible through Verizon.
I had two replacement devices sent to me because of the 3g issues and all the other problems this device was plagued with from day one.
The incredible so far has been perfect. No 3G issues at all.
I am sure that T-mo's 3g coverage was partly to blame but that wasn't the only cause of this problem. With a T-mo G1 and a T-mo Nexus one sitting side by side often the N1 would bounce back and forth between 3g and Edge if it was able to get the 3g at all. This was with all 3 N1's I used. all the while my G1 had a perfect 3g connection.
Not the Incredible. Great phone. Incredibly snappy. Fast 3g through Verizon. No complaints as of yet.
Fingers Crossed...

my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?

one of the area's the rebooting was happening in (reportedly) was one of the Carolinas (quite a few customers), and Verizon speculated that it had to do with the local towers causing the problem,
Also the signal bar indicator looks to be a software problem, do a comparison of signal strength and you will see what I'm talking about. I looked at 3 different phones that had full bars, mine had only one bar..but when you look at the signal strength it was almost identical.
my major gripe is battery life, but I just ordered the Seidio replacement

Gimpeh said:
Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.
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Lots of HTC phones have the antenna at the bottom of the phone The Touch HD and the Incredible to name a few. \
I have had no 3G issues, The antenna indicator always reads a bar less then my droid did in the same spot but the phones perform the same and I have read that this is most likely a false reading

h2opoloplyr_11 said:
my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!

You canals force 3g by dialing #*#*4636*#*# and select evdo from phone information menu. That's what I use when I really need to browse.

syntrix said:
Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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duh why didnt i think of that??? LOL

my 3G reception has been terrible on two Incredibles. varies from -100 to -105 dBm. and its not a service area issue. my room mate has a droid and gets excellent 3G speed and call quality in the same room. My data speeds are slower than at&t 2G and voice is to the point of unusable. some of these phones that go out are certainly bad
Verizon CS has been very helpful in this process, but i still dont have a phone thats usable

my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes l
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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I checked my signal strength compared to my fiance's droid, my incredible got the same and sometimes better. the bars on the incredible lagged some and would show one less. For the most part they fluctuated about the same.
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[Q] Network signal connectivity issues - very low bars

Hi,
I'm loving my new nexus 4. But I have been getting very low signal bars for my mobile carrier. They are generally hovering around 1 or 2, especially when I'm indoors. I do not face any issue while using data. But then that is used when I'm outside. Overall, both network and wi-fi connectivity are lower than my earlier phone - the HTC Desire.
Has anyone of you faced a similar issue?
Thanks in advance.

I'm experiencing inconsistent signals. Sometimes I have full bars, sometimes none. Of course, this is at my house which is about a mile from the tower.

JGKC9AYC said:
I'm experiencing inconsistent signals. Sometimes I have full bars, sometimes none. Of course, this is at my house which is about a mile from the tower.
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Same situation here. I think this affects everyone unless you are in a super steering signal area then it will penetrate your java easier.
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frigidazzi said:
Same situation here. I think this affects everyone unless you are in a super steering signal area then it will penetrate your java easier.
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Whatever the case is, i'm not liking it.
I didn't have these issues with either my iPhone nor my S2.
It'd be a shame to get rid of it after only 4 days.

Ok... feeling somewhat better to know this is not an issue faced by me alone.
I've noticed that signal bars go down to 1 or 2 when laying face up on my desk. As soon as I pick it up, it goes up to 4 bars.
The issue is I never faced this problem with my old HTC Desire!!
I hope its a radio problem which can be fixed by an update, and not a hardware issue.
Anyone else facing this problem?

Are you basing your signal quality by the representation of the bars as your signal compared to your previous phone?
Settings>about phone>status would probably a better place to get a reading to compare.
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Signal strength ?

Just wanted to know how good the signal strength is on the LG G 2 because I have the gs3 and it sucks so just want your guys feedback because I was thinking about buying one soon but wanted to know how good you guys are getting?
Thanks guys
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I can say based on my experience that the note 2 have better signal strength
I work under ground and the note 2 used to give me 2 bars of signal strength, while my g2 fails to get any signal most of the time -_-
I just hope that maybe a modem update would solve this problem
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Looks like you're on Verizon. LG >> Samsung for signal strength. My office where I work is in a poor reception spot, and my Galaxy Nexus was awful at holding a signal. G2 has been a world better.
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The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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heffzilla said:
The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.

geoff5093 said:
10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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heffzilla said:
I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.

geoff5093 said:
Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.
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Both were on 4G, I know signal bars aren't accurate but, the hd had 1 bar and the g2 had 3
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heffzilla said:
I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone
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Yeah, the LG's antennas were always better then Moto's garbage. It's common notion

I'm in NJ and coming from a S3, my signal is much better on the G2. Usually 5-7 dBm better
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rezound has slightly better signal than G2 indoors
I tested on my basement:
HTC rezound can somewhat maintain 3G, 4G, 1x signal
G2 can only periodically get 3G, 4G, 1x signal
dbm value is not important because: even if they are in the same spot one phone could be transmitting at 50% to conserve battery and the other phone could be transmitting at 100%. naturally the phone transmitting at 100% would show better dbm. so I think its better to measure the ability of the phone to maintain signal

On Verizon I had better signal on my s3. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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soapinmouth said:
On Verizon I had better signal on my. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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"my" what?
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Bigralphn said:
The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones

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"my" what?
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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones
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Sorry my s3, and all these people comparing to the gnex that's not really saying much. Pretty sure every phone released since the gnex came out has had better reception.
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The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.

Sport6 said:
The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.
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thanks I've always wondered how good iphones 5 signal reception

I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.

I've had GREAT reception. I get about twice the signal strength I had on verizon GNEX.

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I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.
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that was a comprehensive list. you just need to add galaxy note 3
In addition to the list HTC rezound had slightly better reception than my G2(see my previous post)

[Q] Signal issues

Is anyone else having signal issues? In my house I only have 2-3 bars while on my iPhone there was always 4-5

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Is anyone else having signal issues? In my house I only have 2-3 bars while on my iPhone there was always 4-5
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Not me. So far so good. Will keep you posted.
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Nope me either.. maybe slightly better than my s4.
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I am getting much better reception with this phone. My last phone was a Galaxy Note 2.

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I am getting much better reception with this phone. My last phone was a Galaxy Note 2.
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Pretty much the same here. My note 2 had pretty decent signal, but the 3 seems a tad better.

No issues here either, Tucson, AZ.
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Samsung hasn't been known for exceptional signal strength. Can't speak for Apple, but Motorola pretty much steals the show in that category. I saw the difference for myself when I had my old Galaxy s3 next to my work phone, which was a Droid Razr Maxx.

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Samsung hasn't been known for exceptional signal strength. Can't speak for Apple, but Motorola pretty much steals the show in that category. I saw the difference for myself when I had my old Galaxy s3 next to my work phone, which was a Droid Razr Maxx.
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Just basing this off of my own experience, the recent gen of Samsung phones seem to have rather decent reception when in an obvious strong signal area. Where Moto still seems to excel, is in those fringe areas. When you fluctuate between 0-1 bars...Moto stays connected much stronger/more reliably. Recently had the new Droid MAXX and compared to my Note 2, streaming music never missed a beat. Samsung struggled a bit. I'm sure in the 1st update, there will be a radio patch to make the 3 even better.

Number of bars mean nothing especially across two different make and model of phones. What's important is the data throughput and latency and voice quality.

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Number of bars mean nothing especially across two different make and model of phones. What's important is the data throughput and latency and voice quality.
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I understand this. Bars are used to graphically represent. dBm is a more accurate way to gauge it. Just saying Moto stayed more reliable at say...-107dBm than Samsung did.

I'm here in San Diego and signal is great. My house is a butthole for letting signal to the phone, but the Note 3 manages to get great signal.
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My iPhone has -90 db while my note 3 has -106 db

Always had 2 or 3 bars of 3g and sometimes 4g with my S3 and now always 4g with 3 or 4 bars. Wifi seems to be better too.

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Absolutely correct. If I remember correctly, the Nexus was getting a terrible signal and there was an update in which there were more bars but the dBa measurements were the same. However, I used real world testing when comparing the Moto Droid Maxx to my GS3. I couldn't place a call in a fringe area with my GS3 while the Motorola held up well. I found that the GS3 was able to hold a better wifi signal on the fringe of the signal radius.
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Always had 2 or 3 bars of 3g and sometimes 4g with my S3 and now always 4g with 3 or 4 bars. Wifi seems to be better too.
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I seem to be getting a better signal with the Noe 3 than I did with the GS3. An area along my commute that had no signal with my s3, has some signal on the Note 3.

IS it possible that I have a bad note 3? I cant Connect To local wifi networks. signal is horrible and wont connect to Bluetooth on Many devices I can connect to some networks though
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Poor radio

Anyone else notice that the radio in the Note 4 sucks for LTE? My previous phone was a HTC One M8 and I got 4G everywhere in my city full time. With the Note 4, my 4G connection is unstable at work. Instead of it being a weak -100+ dBm signal, it is actually usually around -75 allot, then it fluctuates to around -88 to -105, then it falls to 3G. The transfer rate also isn't that great at 6-8 Mbps.
At home, I have a constant -105 signal but at least it never loses 4G connection and has a decent 20-25 Mbps download speed. My prior phone was around -80 to -90 range.
Makes me want to switch to an IPhone Plus, Droid Turbo, or Nexus 6... No idea if any will be available within 14 days. .
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By default the global network is on. Try switching it to LTE only. It's solid on mine.

No issues with mine. Just as good as the last several Verizon phones I've had (S5, M8, 5S).

Mine seems better than the Note 3.. just fyi.

I've had incredible signal with mine. Our house is on the outskirts of 4G and my m8 got between 106 and 115 dbm. But my note gets at most 111, and constantly below 105 in most of my house. Solid and we'll above expected signal strength here.

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By default the global network is on. Try switching it to LTE only. It's solid on mine.
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Just switched to LTE, restarted the phone...Signal is much stronger. thanks man
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So far best radio ive used to date
Edit: i was on global too lol

I switched from global to LTE and also removed my SIM card for a few minutes before turning it back on. Seems a bit better but still testing in more problematic areas.
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Seems the exact same as the S3 and S4, so not real good or real bad. Somewhere in the middle.

Used to have HTC One M8, now Note 4. Radio seems to be better.

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Seems the exact same as the S3 and S4, so not real good or real bad. Somewhere in the middle.
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I was hoping that it would be better than the S3. My S3s have poor radios at best. It's the only thing that I dislike about my S3.

Seems a little better than my m8 sitting in the exact same spot in my house.

usmaak said:
I was hoping that it would be better than the S3. My S3s have poor radios at best. It's the only thing that I dislike about my S3.
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Ditto on the GS3. I figured two years later, they would to have had to get better radios by now. Oh well... My note hasn't arrived yet. I know with Moto and HTC I get signal in places I don''t with a Samsung. I've got used to the less than great signal with the Samsung that I'll try to not sweat over it.

I'm getting a better signal on the N4 than I did on the S3. I now have 4G signal at work where on my S3 I only got a weak 3G.

Mines much better actually but I'm coming from an S3.

We were at the dinner table where my friend's 6 Plus was oos and my Note 4 had 1 bar. Hahaha!
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seems better than note 2.

Things got MUCH better once I switched from Global mode to LTE/CDMA. Thanks!

Just switched to lte from global.. I wonder why the default is global?

100% agree. I was getting so pissed at my Note 3... I would drop calls all the time and now I don't in the same exact areas.