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So like many of us, the chip a Smartphone has is one of, if not the most important feature. So the Galaxy S4 just like its predecessor, is going to have two different variants, one with the Snapdragon 600, the other with the Exynos 5 Octa.
I live in the UK, and I have been looking forward to the arrival of the S4 and may even consider upgrading to it. However, I already have a smartphone with an S4 Pro, and I would only get my Visa out for something a bit more than a slight upgrade. So the question I wanted answering was: Which chip was the UK going to get?
Apparently, Samsung has said that the UK was to receive the Snapdragon 600, as the UK is starting to receive 4G and also because the Exynos 5 Octa isn't quite yet in mass production. However, Three says otherwise. On their website (https://www.three.co.uk/Discover/New_Samsung_Galaxy?ID=1394), they state it will come with the Exynos 5 Octa, the model lacking LTE. This makes sense, as Three are constantly boasting how their DC-HSPDA is just as fast as EE's 4G but is available nationwide, not just in a few cities. This makes me cautiously happy, as I have always been with Three and their coverage and Data prices are second to none.
So, what do you think? Is anyone able to shed a bit more light on the situation?
i cant see three being the only company to have the non lte variant , as everyone else will be using 4g . three have brought into 4g , they also apparently got a big slice for free
It's confusing because I have read that 8core SOC will also support 4G
So not sure which will have the LTE chip and which not?
I'm sure it won't be too difficult to get the either version even if it means getting it from abroad.
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Many retailers seem to have both octa and LTE listed in the specs based, I believe, on what they were told last week *however* Clove stated in their blog a few days ago that they were still waiting for confirmation from Samsung re specs and price - so it's very likely that currently no retailer has this info either.
If all the stuff that started going round yesterday is true then it looks like we'll get the quad. It's all a bit of a mess really...
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You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
So the UK will get both then
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Since the 21st March, the Three site has listed the 1.9GHz Snapdragon as the device it is selling so maybe at (and only) the time/day you posted this they incorrectly listed the Exynos.
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
PowerLemons said:
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
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The Octa-core with LTE is the total package.
Do not consider this an expert opinion, but I'd imagine Samsung releasing the 1.8GHz version with the best quality A15 chips that can take the heat better, @AndreiLux however knows more about this. In any case, if I had the opportunity I'd go for the Korean version, but not before your friend checks if everything is all right and the phone is functioning well.
There will be little (almost to none) support for SHV-E300 models by developers. Although it looks similar to I9500, it will be very different in terms of custom kernels and custom ROMs.
By the way, according to kernel source codes, audio chips are also different. I9500 uses Wolfson audio, while E300(and I9505) uses Yamaha.
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How many of you guys are planning on rooting the S4 on Friday?
I have a nexus 7 rooted, so I'm trying to figure if it's worth routing, whilst losing out on my warranty.
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There will be little (almost to none) support for SHV-E300 models by developers. Although it looks similar to I9500, it will be very different in terms of custom kernels and custom ROMs.
By the way, according to kernel source codes, audio chips are also different. I9500 uses Wolfson audio, while E300(and I9505) uses Yamaha.
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jalte isn't the i9505 anymore (Currently?). But yes the Octa LTE devices have Yamaha audio as it seems.
Kernel development is mostly a language barrier problem, I'm supporting the widly different N7108 even though I was nowhere near that device, only because one willing individual worked together with me to test it.
Only downfall about the Korean, is it will have that stupid looking DMB antenna that can slide in and out, I am sure of it as all korean phones have this and it was on the korean s3... This made the phone a fraction thicker then the international S3
But then samsung later released the exact same version internationally I9305 without the DMB antenna which is what I got. I really hope they dont do this again.
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jalte isn't the i9505 anymore (Currently?)
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Found I9505 (jf) sources on github. Audio chip is from Qualcomm. Probably standard one WCD9310.
As for support: Korean version needs framework (and sadly, libraries) rework to make phone useful outside of Korea. As far as i know, Korea uses VoLTE for voice call, so there is a chance that in countries with LTE CSFB, LTE in SHV-E300 will be useless even if phone will be able to connect. More SHV-E300 far from international version by hardware - harder to make it international. Nothing to do with Kernel, actually.
But since it uses different audio chip than wolfson, audio improvements won't apply for this model. May be tweaks from I9100 will be useful, but that's different story.
P.S.: need to wait exactly SHV-E300 sources. It's possible that Samsung changed something in the last moment.
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Only downfall about the Korean, is it will have that stupid looking DMB antenna that can slide in and out, I am sure of it as all korean phones have this and it was on the korean s3... This made the phone a fraction thicker then the international S3
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Using Korean SGSIII SHV-E210K (because of 2GB of RAM), i have a big problem with case accessories because phone is thicker than I9300 (cannot use any hard case) and back cover is completely incompatible with cover from I9300. If i would knew that I9305 will appear later, then i would never buy SHV-E210K.
For me, i don't see any advantage in SHV-E300 at all, but only problems.
And if custom Rom are not available you'll be stucked with a 80chars SMS problem
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PowerLemons said:
Which variant of the Galaxy S4 is better?
I have a friend in South Korea who will be able to buy and ship the SHV-E300K Galaxy S4, but it will cost me about $100 in fees to ship it from South Korea to Canada.
According to what I heard, the South Korean model will have a 1.8GHz Cortex-A15 and LTE instead of the 1.6GHz Cortex-A15 and no LTE in the international version.
Which one is better to get?
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Hello, I would like to know one thing, I'd like to know if your friend knows an online site where you can buy the version SHV-E300K : Confuso:. Thank you. I ask because I'm Italian and myself is sold the GT-i9505, the quad core version, but I like the Korean version of SHV-E300k. answer me as soon as possible thanks : Good: : Good:
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Hello, I would like to know one thing, I'd like to know if your friend knows an online site where you can buy the version SHV-E300K : Confuso:. Thank you. I ask because I'm Italian and myself is sold the GT-i9505, the quad core version, but I like the Korean version of SHV-E300k. answer me as soon as possible thanks : Good: : Good:
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Expansys Korea.
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http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer...DS3SC&prdb=SHV-E300KDS3KC&prdc=SHV-E300LDS3LC
There is no GSM 850mhz so you wont have a LOADS of coverage one you travel
and best to now if tits has the LTE band for your Carrier ..
later on we will see an exynos based LTE version right?
just like the GS3 and Gnote2?
I think if i have to choose i will choose the e300k, if there is have difference hardware,
It is right that korean version have few custom rom and kernel.
But, as my experience cooking rom for korean version there is just some different in framework or anything else.
So its possible porting any mod for international s4 to korean version.
So if the hardware e300k better than international version, i will choose the first one.
Had anyone heard of which markets are getting the 64gb internal storage version? Samsung has already advertise that a 64gb version will be releases but local retailers have no info on the matter.
Some obscure Asian markets and probably some sheikhs in UAE, Dubai and Iran.
As always, it will be available in 64gb in some obscure market on the other side of the planet
Thankfully it's 32gb minimum which softens the blow compared to the usual
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If anyone finds out which country gets N9005 (LTE, Snapdragon 800 version) with 64GB internal storage, that supports LTE bands 4 and 17 (AT&T) - please post here.
To answer question in the OP - Samsung UK and Australia already published official specs for their Note 3 version, as well as their carriers, and those countries offer the 64GB model. I'm sure more to come.
Unlikely to see 64gb version compatible with USA lte. And the slight chance you do expect to pay big big bucks. Unless a dev version comes out or a carrier picks it up.
And yet Samsung is releasing a GN3 16GB in Hong Kong, no word if they will get a 32GB GN3 at all. How odd is that.
bump...anyone has a list of markets, which are getting the 64GB internal storage Snapdragon 800 version? Not asking for speculations, only if you have the actual info, please
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bump...anyone has a list of markets, which are getting the 64GB internal storage Snapdragon 800 version? Not asking for speculations, only if you have the actual info, please
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Just found this one.
Very expensive, will call tomorrow to verify 64Gb internal memory. Not sure I'll be getting it at this price though, may wait a while.
http://www.android-enjoyed.com/sams...ogleproducts&gclid=COaz5NeK7bkCFQkSpQoddVsAAw
Richard.p said:
Just found this one.
Very expensive, will call tomorrow to verify 64Gb internal memory. Not sure I'll be getting it at this price though, may wait a while.
http://www.android-enjoyed.com/sams...ogleproducts&gclid=COaz5NeK7bkCFQkSpQoddVsAAw
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Thanks for sharing. When you call ask them the following questions:
- Is bootloader locked?
- Is is region locked?
- Is it carrier network locked?
- Why the hell the specs page says "Octa Core 2.3 GHz Processor " if it's N9005, LTE version?
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Thanks for sharing. When you call ask them the following questions:
- Is bootloader locked?
- Is is region locked?
- Is it carrier network locked?
- Why the hell the specs page says "Octa Core 2.3 GHz Processor " if it's N9005, LTE version?
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The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
Richard.p said:
The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
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Looks like you didn't do a very good job when calling these people. Exynos SoC does not have LTE modem, so there is no N9005 LTE version with Octa core chip. That is clearly a mistake in the specs and you can take it to the bank. The person you spoke to has absolutely no technical knowledge, if you pointed out that CPU mistake and she still referred you to the specs page. Therefore the crediblity of her satement the phone works on Telstra's LTE network is zero.
I don't understand how you can even consider buying such an expensive device, without knowing what CPU it has, if it's region locked or not, if bootloader is locked and how much internal memory it has. I'd suggest calling back and asking to speak to person, who understands technical specifications of the product they sell - they gotta have staff members who do.
Richard.p said:
The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
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Go top Mobiciti.com.au. They tell you the actual radio bands for each model, and if it will work on Telstra/Optus 4g (a major Q by customers these days). The N90005 does. As far as I am aware, the others ('00 = Otca, '02 = dual sim) do not.
[edit: OK, the 64GB is not for sale in Oz yet, if ever, but they have the info, anyway)
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Looks like you didn't do a very good job when calling these people. Exynos SoC does not have LTE modem, so there is no N9005 LTE version with Octa core chip. That is clearly a mistake in the specs and you can take it to the bank. The person you spoke to has absolutely no technical knowledge, if you pointed out that CPU mistake and she still referred you to the specs page. Therefore the crediblity of her satement the phone works on Telstra's LTE network is zero.
I don't understand how you can even consider buying such an expensive device, without knowing what CPU it has, if it's region locked or not, if bootloader is locked and how much internal memory it has. I'd suggest calling back and asking to speak to person, who understands technical specifications of the product they sell - they gotta have staff members who do.
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Just had a conversation via costomer support, and seem to have got a bit further with their technical team.
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Richard; Hi, I have a few questions regarding the 64Gb Galaxy Note 3 PRODUCT CODE HOSS00073BK
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Jo; Hello
Richard; Hi Jo,
Richard here,
I was speaking to someone earlier today about your Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 LTE 64GB Black (4G). PRODUCT CODE HOSS00073BK.
I am very interested in buying this, however I have a few concerns.
A) Samsung has put 2 CPU models out for this phone
1. Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 which is Quad core @ 2.3 Ghz
2. Exynos 5 which is an Octa Core 5420 @ 1.9 Ghz
Samsung has not released a model that has Octa Core @ 2.3 Ghz as stated in your specification page
B) The other concern is that The Octa Core version that Samsung released does not support LTE, only the Quad Core version does.
The person I spoke to was in the process of referring the matter to her technical team for clarification.
She was also going to ask the technical team if the phone has a locked “Boot loader”
Sorry for the long post, Hope you can help
Jo; Thank you for contacting us. I see, Allow me to check this with our Technical team, your question may have also been sent to them. One moment please
Richard; I had to go to work ealier and so could't finish the conversation, I appreciate your time
Jo; I see. I am checking now Richard
Richard; thank you
Jo; Hello Richard .Thanks for waiting
Richard; Thats fine
Jo; Our technical team advised that it has a locked bootloader
Richard; Okay thanks for that, Any news on what type of CPU is in it? The Quad Core 2.3Ghz or the Octa Core 1.9Ghz?
Jo; About that, im still waiting for their advise
Richard; Okay Thanks
Jo; Hello Richard. Thanks again for waiting. They just advise that its Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
Richard; That's Great news, I means the phone will work with the LTE. one other question. I know the European phones are having issues with region locking and was wondering if this phone also is region locked?
Jo; No Richard, all the phones are unlocked"
Thanks for the update, although pasting full convo is not really necessary. Summarize it next time - people dont wanna read long posts. As far as bootloader being locked - I suspected as much, confirmation was just a formality. Samsung USA support supervisor confirmed to me there will be a developer edition of GN3 later on, so I hope Samsung makes one with 64GB of internal storage as well.
As far as your last question goes from that live chat - based on his/her response that person doesn't know what "region lock" is and was referring to carrier network lock when he/she said it is unlocked. Next time if you get a response like that - clarify or even paste them these links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/09/25/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sim-limitations/
Bump...it's been confirmed the Australian 64GB version is not region locked, but the 2 major online retailers I asked said it has locked bootloader. Anyone know if there are any places in Australia, which sell the 64GB LTE model with unlocked bootloader?
EDIT: make it 3 major online retailers - just got response from Kogan. Their Notes also have locked bootloader
If someone knows of a country where they sell 64GB internal storage N9005 model, or has a link for a store that is selling it (preferably in stock, not pre-order) - please post here
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If someone knows of a country where they sell 64GB internal storage N9005 model, or has a link for a store that is selling it (preferably in stock, not pre-order) - please post here
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I really wanted a 64gb, I ended up getting the 32 exynos from mobicity (australia). As far as I can tell the 64 isnt available anywhere in the world at the moment, and none of the handful of sellers Iv spoken to have any idea about when/if theyre going to get it. The more reputable online stores such as mobicity dont put a placeholder up unless they know for sure theyre getting it, and if there is an issue they will call you (Today i got a call from mobicity saying the galaxy gear lime green i ordered may not be coming in for a while, they dont know when they will get stock but they have black in stock so they can ship me one of those immediately if i prefer.)
That store you posted is clearly a case of clueless people writing up a placeholder item sheet for an item they have heard about and assume they will get since samsung announced it, but know nothing beyond that. If the specs page is poorly written and incorrect and it says "available for preorder", that should tell you all you need to know...
I don't think my phone has any kind of reigon lock - it didnt have any kind of reigon sticker on the box and from what samsung and mobicity have said I gather no sticker means no lock. Perhaps only asia pacific models are reigon free?
EDIT: I missed Apo11on's post, IF kogan's ones are bootloader locked I imagine mobicity's and anyone else's are the same. Unless there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon as far as region locking.
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Some obscure Asian markets and probably some sheikhs in UAE, Dubai and Iran.
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Looks like you were dead on with that prediction. Here is a Qatar listing, where seller claims to sell 64GB Note 3: http://www.qatarliving.com/mobile-devices/mobile-phones/advert/samsung-galaxy-note-3-64gb
And here is Samsung UAE specs page for Note 3, which *does* list the 64GB internal storage version: http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/mobile-phones/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/SM-N9005ZKEXSI-spec
Can anyone from that region actually confirm Note 3 is being sold with 64GB of internal storage?
I can't confirm but that is often the case. Middle east and Asian markets usually get the bigger storage versions. If you have connections with T-Mobile you can try to get them to order you one. Need a sales rep with connections or know how.
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SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........
Samsung and Qualcomm clock speeds are not directly comparable.
Although different, I'd say the difference in performance is negligible.
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.
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SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........
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yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................
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yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................
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and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..
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and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..
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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........
This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/
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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........
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in greece is same problem. :crying:
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This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/
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Yes did my bit of reading EXYNOS OCTA CORE is the announcement but what we are essentially getting is EXYNOS QUAD CORE.. the A7 CORE Is yet to be integrated....A7 is where the power efficiency comes from.....
Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.
I think the exynos could save up more battery because of the octa core processor.
For me this is the most important part. But I've a snapdragon because they only sell this
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Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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Fulvian said:
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.
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I think this has more to do with profit margin of Samsung. Exynos being cheaper to produce. And not the purchasing power of consumers. If you look at the market, places where Snapdragon is released, people buy in subsidy paying $200. And places where Exynos is released, people buy paying the full price around $700 or more.
Samsung misleading...
SO i guess Samsung should be selling it as Exynos Quad core rather than Exynos Octa core
I guess its high time loyal Samsung users see thru this and look for alternatives.....
Paying a bomb for slower variant..!!!!! its a rip offffffff !!!!!!!!!
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!
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wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
hiepgia said:
Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
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It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
vetl said:
don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
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What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
sauron0101 said:
It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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I'm with Fido, probably will have to get unlock Note 4 once it will reach Canada. But assuming that Wind Mobile has Note 3 its highly likely Note 4 will come to the Wind Mobile as well, maybe with some delay though.
All the great things about better performance of Exynos vs Snapdragon is awesome of course, however will you really notice the difference in usage ? I have SGS3 international which I compared to the north america's dual core didn't see much difference in performance of everyday tasks. In addiction to that most of the places don't have LTE-A so snapdragon is pretty much has no gain in network speed and will perform the same as Exynos(at least in Canada where we have only LTE network)
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
What I really wonder about is the difference in battery life between those two versions ?
sauron0101 said:
It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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Instruction set ARMv7 is in ARM Cortex A53 and ARM Cortex A57. I have been play with HTC Desire 510 64bit for a while in shop. Installed Antutu and it show ARMv7 in details.
ARMv7 is read from OS as Android 4.4 is 32bit.
IF Exynos 5433 is 64 bit, we will have more with Android L
vetl said:
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
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The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
BoBBBBBBBO said:
The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
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i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
vetl said:
i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
Mr Dasher said:
Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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I don't know about Canada but here in Europe I get to choose between the both models if you're not buying it from a carrier. Last year for the Note 3, the Snapdragon one was just a little bit more expensive than the Exynos model.
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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last two galaxies that I owned I got from online store ... so depends what you call wildly expensive, but definitely it will cost you some extra $$$. Does any one know which region Exynos version will belong ? from the website that I got my international SGS3 they told me that most likely they will get Snapdragon edition .....
I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
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I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
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There are barely any states that supports Cat6. Most don't even support Cat4. Take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
If you look at the dates you can see that many countries are only now receiving Cat3.
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
EP2008 said:
I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
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Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
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Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
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I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
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I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
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Please let me know when you get an answer.
For my Note 2 there was no carrier branding, other than the Samsung logo on the top of the device and on the back. Worked like a champ on Virgin Mobile, but this model (N-7100) doesn't have LTE. It'll be nice to have it on the Note 4!
From experience from having exynos galaxy phones and the same phone with snapdragon I always found the snapdragon phones to be more reliable and have less delay but when I had the exynos S4 the camera sensor and audio chip was better (wolfson vs qualcomm). This was important for me but I will not get a exynos phone again as Qualcomm in my opinion are the leaders in Chipset. 801 being a let down though due to overheating!