Usage query - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Just wondered if anybody is seeing really poor battery life on their S4?
Granted, this is the first charge and I know Android devices tend to need a couple to settle in but my battery seems to be draining like God knows what.
I came from a HTC One which was pretty poor - but the S4 battery just seems to be pouring battery juice out. I'm using the I9505 on EE in the UK. I've been on wifi the entire time, though with a very low signal.
Don't know what Samsung Link is but that seems to be having a particular impact. I wonder if I have a fault? I assume Google Services is Gmail etc - although I thought that would show up as Google Sync or something.
I do have most of the gimmicky features disabled - other than the one where I can wave my hand over the lockscreen to see what notifications I have. Power saving mode is enabled and screen is on auto with the maximum set to a fairly low level.
Would be grateful for your thoughts.
Thanks

First thing is you have a truly awful network signal.

Its probably fine. I let my phones die 3 times when I get them , sometimes they sit at 1% for 2 hours or more, so that will give the phone a better estimation of its battery usage and such.

Thanks folks.
Yes, the signal is bad but the drain was the same at home where I had a full signal and wifi connected.
Do you know how to disable Samsung Link or this Google Services thing?
Cheers

Had mine run GLBenchmark when I was laying down in bed. Found it still on around 7 hours later, the screen still on (after I realized I fell asleep), and was around 10%.
Again, that's with the screen on all 7 hours.

philliplavelle said:
Hi All,
Just wondered if anybody is seeing really poor battery life on their S4?
Granted, this is the first charge and I know Android devices tend to need a couple to settle in but my battery seems to be draining like God knows what.
I came from a HTC One which was pretty poor - but the S4 battery just seems to be pouring battery juice out. I'm using the I9505 on EE in the UK. I've been on wifi the entire time, though with a very low signal.
Don't know what Samsung Link is but that seems to be having a particular impact. I wonder if I have a fault? I assume Google Services is Gmail etc - although I thought that would show up as Google Sync or something.
I do have most of the gimmicky features disabled - other than the one where I can wave my hand over the lockscreen to see what notifications I have. Power saving mode is enabled and screen is on auto with the maximum set to a fairly low level.
Would be grateful for your thoughts.
Thanks
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You may just have a defective unit. Just exchange it for a new one
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I have an excellent network & wifi signal. I've noticed the terrible battery, but I'm pretty sure mine is from constant use & such. Under these circumstances, I think my Droid X's battery lasted longer than this :/

philliplavelle said:
Hi All,
Just wondered if anybody is seeing really poor battery life on their S4?
Granted, this is the first charge and I know Android devices tend to need a couple to settle in but my battery seems to be draining like God knows what.
I came from a HTC One which was pretty poor - but the S4 battery just seems to be pouring battery juice out. I'm using the I9505 on EE in the UK. I've been on wifi the entire time, though with a very low signal.
Don't know what Samsung Link is but that seems to be having a particular impact. I wonder if I have a fault? I assume Google Services is Gmail etc - although I thought that would show up as Google Sync or something.
I do have most of the gimmicky features disabled - other than the one where I can wave my hand over the lockscreen to see what notifications I have. Power saving mode is enabled and screen is on auto with the maximum set to a fairly low level.
Would be grateful for your thoughts.
Thanks
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From screenshots you can clearly see that Goggle Services and Samsung Link are eating your battery...
Keep AutoSync and Google Now - OFF
My phone have great battery life, lost 12% within 4hrs, 1hr screen ON, brightness up to 50%, WiFi ON all the time, average reception...
Google Services used only 2% and is on the bottom of the list, NO sign of Samsung Link on my stats so you must have some apps running in background...

djembey said:
From screenshots you can clearly see that Goggle Services and Samsung Link are eating your battery...
Keep AutoSync and Google Now - OFF
My phone have great battery life, lost 12% within 4hrs, 1hr screen ON, brightness up to 50%, WiFi ON all the time, average reception...
Google Services used only 2% and is on the bottom of the list, NO sign of Samsung Link on my stats so you must have some apps running in background...
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Forgive me for being stupid, but turning auto sync off stops my Gmail getting push and also the calendar syncing, doesn't it? There no way around that?
Google Now was already off. I only sync Google Mail, Calendar, Chrome and nothing else. All the others are left unticked.
I can't figure a way of turning that Samsung Link thing off - there is no option in the settings.
Any other ideas?
Thanks

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How I'm finally getting awesome battery life.

I recently installed Froyo (I know, about three weeks late). One of my hopes was that it would improve my battery life (~8 hours previously) but I found the opposite. After installing Froyo I was getting about 4 hours of battery. Horrible.
So I factory reset and started installing apps one or two each day, paying close attention to see if I could find what the problem was. A stock rom would be just fine with nothing installed - lasting all day and ending the day with 40% battery with normal usage.
I discovered that my battery started sucking when I activated Latitude. With further testing I found that Latitude did not suck my battery with the GPS off, and if I left the GPS on but Latitude deactivated I also did not have any major problems with battery.
By deactivating GPS and leaving latitude on I went from a 45% drop over two hours to a 6% drop over two hours.
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Not bad! I don't want to give up hardware and I don't want to give up Latitude, so I purchased Tasker and set up the following profiles:
App - Earth: GPS ON
App - Maps: GPS ON
App - Wireless Tether: 4G ON
App - Internet: 4G ON
Battery Level below 35%: 4G OFF
Battery Level below 15: Brightness to minimum, 4G OFF, WiFI OFF, Auto-Sync OFF
I set up additional profiles to turn on WiFi when I'm at work or at home, and one that writes my battery level to a text file along with status of the hardware devices every time the battery percentage changes (for further tracking).
I now have not had to give up my GPS being on, WiFi working, auto-sync, or even 4G to keep great battery life. True that 4G takes a minute to turn on, GPS might take a few extra seconds to get a fix, but it's worth it. I've been unplugged for 6 hours now and I'm sitting at 83% so I should be able to get well over a day with this setup.
I'm interested in hearing if others having major problems are running latitude with GPS ON and if this setup solves the problem. Also, if you have ideas for additional power saving Tasker profiles.
I gotta say I am really must be missunderstanding whats going on here lol.
So without this tasker your phone would die in 4 hours because all that stuff was turned on and working hard? However with the tasker your phone at 6 hours is only at 85%? This is where I am confused, if you dont already see the problem with the math here. If the tasker is only killing things at 35% and thus everything is running how it was before until you get to 35% then shouldnt your phone be down to 35% by say 3.5hours and then suddenly your tasker takes over lol. I mean everything is running exactly the same from 100%-35% as it was without the tasker so why the heck isnt it killing the phone just as fast? Well why isnt it killing the phone down to 35% just ask fast is the better question?
I dont think the tasker solved your problem I think you inadvertantly solved your own problem. Or I am wrong and I am missing something. Maybe I didnt read your post correctly.
This is a great development. I too noticed that my battery would drain quickly when GPS was on, and I never once thought about Latitude (of which is enabled at all times on my phone)
Lattitude confuses me. You are essentially allowing anyone to track you, and doing it willingly? Am I missing something?
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Lattitude confuses me. You are essentially allowing anyone to track you, and doing it willingly? Am I missing something?
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It's used to update your location to your friends - only those you explicitly approve.
I was underwhelmed with Latitude. It reports my position okay on my phone (great, I know where I am) but if my wife is right next to me on the couch, Latitude says she's a mile away in the middle of a park. What's the point? I can get general locations from Facebook updates?
And, yeah, it's also kicking GPS on all the time and draining battery. I have filed Latitude under the "gimmick" heading for now.
twilk73 said:
I gotta say I am really must be missunderstanding whats going on here lol.
So without this tasker your phone would die in 4 hours because all that stuff was turned on and working hard? However with the tasker your phone at 6 hours is only at 85%? This is where I am confused, if you dont already see the problem with the math here. If the tasker is only killing things at 35% and thus everything is running how it was before until you get to 35% then shouldnt your phone be down to 35% by say 3.5hours and then suddenly your tasker takes over lol. I mean everything is running exactly the same from 100%-35% as it was without the tasker so why the heck isnt it killing the phone just as fast? Well why isnt it killing the phone down to 35% just ask fast is the better question?
I dont think the tasker solved your problem I think you inadvertantly solved your own problem. Or I am wrong and I am missing something. Maybe I didnt read your post correctly.
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Ah sorry - that could be a little more clear. Each line is a separate profile, so I leave GPS off by default now and have it automatically turn on when I enter Google Earth or Google Maps. Since GPS was the main problem, this has completely fixed my battery issue while still allowing me to use Latitude.
The other stuff, like the extreme low battery settings, are just icing on the cake for battery savings.
SilverZero said:
I was underwhelmed with Latitude. It reports my position okay on my phone (great, I know where I am) but if my wife is right next to me on the couch, Latitude says she's a mile away in the middle of a park. What's the point? I can get general locations from Facebook updates?
And, yeah, it's also kicking GPS on all the time and draining battery. I have filed Latitude under the "gimmick" heading for now.
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Maybe the person you think is your wife is actually an evil doppelganger. Better knock her out and head to the park to save your real wife.
I actually like Latitude a lot. I have a bunch of my friends on there and it's always interesting to see what they are doing or be alerted when they are nearby. The cool thing is that the alerts "learn" when you would normally be by that person and only alert you if you are nearby at an unusual time or location. It's also great if someone is on their way to meet you, you can pop in and see where they are and how soon they will be there without calling or texting them (this is the most useful thing I do with it).
Has it significantly improved my life? Not really. Is it still fun? I open it up 3 or 4 times a week, so it must be.
gthing said:
Ah sorry - that could be a little more clear. Each line is a separate profile, so I leave GPS off by default now and have it automatically turn on when I enter Google Earth or Google Maps. Since GPS was the main problem, this has completely fixed my battery issue while still allowing me to use Latitude.
The other stuff, like the extreme low battery settings, are just icing on the cake for battery savings.
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Oh I see now. I also read in another thread that GPS with latitude on was a battery death blow lol. I dont use latitude so that probably why I was so confused with your post to begine with. My bad.

Google now killing battery.

After having the S3 on tmobile and having the official 4.1 update and using Google now all the time. I never had any battery issues. Using it on the N4 the drain is crazy. I I have to freeze it to stop the drain.
Is there a way to use Google now with out the drain? I do love me some Google now.
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Err been using it for a month now and have -zero- issues with battery drain. and when i mean im fully using the phone, i do mean fully... it's wide opened, full net access, nothing blocked (except adware type junk).
I have everything from google installed, all their apps that sync constantly, plus tons of work related programs like office, remote print bots etc.. to top it all off my google drive + google music are being used all the time too.
No battery drain at all here. I'm sure it uses battery, but nowhere near a level of drain that is gastly or noticable. I'de more point my finger at a rogue app that you installed instead.
you try it from a clean install? or maybe uninstall all "extra" to try and narrow it down...
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Err been using it for a month now and have -zero- issues with battery drain. and when i mean im fully using the phone, i do mean fully... it's wide opened, full net access, nothing blocked (except adware type junk).
I have everything from google installed, all their apps that sync constantly, plus tons of work related programs like office, remote print bots etc.. to top it all off my google drive + google music are being used all the time too.
No battery drain at all here. I'm sure it uses battery, but nowhere near a level of drain that is gastly or noticable. I'de more point my finger at a rogue app that you installed instead.
you try it from a clean install? or maybe uninstall all "extra" to try and narrow it down...
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I'm the same, I have everything syncing, GPS on etc
my battery lasts 8 hours even with nothing extra installed except stock apps
I'm with you OP. Battery is crap on this phone compared to S2, S3 and iPhone. Web browsing is killer 4hours compared to 8 on iphone.
Google Now and location drains battery. Best way to tell is overnight - with those features on the battery falls all through the night. With then all off - its level.
you guys with drain are forgetting to mention what other apps you have installed and are running. Are you stock ? like stock stock ?
and another side note: your 3G cell reception... spotty??? if your radio is constantly trying to connect you will experience mega harsh drain - regardless of phone or programs.
so..ermm.. need more info you guys
3G (HSPA+) is full where ever I go, rest of time I'm on WiFi.
As I stated, I've tried with no other apps installed. Just stock apps with all Google stuff enabled
I see what you guys mean about rogue apps. But that is not the case. As a previous user said you can tell by leaving Google now on over night and turning it off(I've tested that).
I'm having great battery life with it off or on its just the batter seems to drain more then it should with Google now enabled compared to other phones...
Oh well, just have to live with it.
Thanks everyone
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I have google now since the day it came out and i don't have any batterie drain at all... Google now is supposed to know your home, so it won't use the gps as often as when your moving...
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big samm said:
I have google now since the day it came out and i don't have any batterie drain at all... Google now is supposed to know your home, so it won't use the gps as often as when your moving...
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This
Silly question... did you guys program all your options into the phone so it's not constantly searching?
@MMACE - 8hours.. hmm..seems off a bit I wake up at 6:30 phone is unplugged then...usually only throw it on the charger when i get home later that evening.
I use the phone with all the trimmings during the day. sometimes video, sometimes music, sometimes browsing, wifi on/off etc..
Look with cyanogen modded kernel on a nexus one, i was getting 4-5 days of heavy usage and easily 2 weeks standby. I understand what it means to have excellent battery life. But we are talking a bigger screen, more features, and faster cpu speeds here...
you can't expect miracles of a week's usage here.. needs to be reasonable..
Google Now gave me some significant battery drain for the first day, but after that it simmered down and now I get great battery life. I always have everything turned on except for WiFi.
hmm that's weird. i'm not getting any battery drain from google now as well. i don't constantly have it open or use it all the time, but it's running in the background. for me, i actually use battery defender. i've heard different things about it and that it doesn't work. but it seems to work for me. i'll use my phone not too heavily during the work day or even the weekend, and usually by the time i go to sleep at night, it's down to maybe 40%...somewhere about 20% if i talk to my fiance a lot.
As mentioned ad nauseum, you should check the location (aka GPS) settings. GPS radio "only" works when apps call it (maps). The wifi portion runs all the time. If you turn on GPS, but disable (or simple do not agree) to use the wifi radio for location, you should see a large improvement.

Battery Life

I've tried everything now with differing results. Nothing really seems to make that much difference, be it Cm10.1 with Faux or Franco or stock.
What I have noticed though is I don't think the screens as much to blame as a lot of people think
I used it last night at home on wifi, got 1:30 worth of screen use at the cost of 25% of the battery (which i think is more than reasonable )
Whereas on the train yesterday I had music on and browsed the web and lost 40% in an hour. I mean that's horrendous really.
It appears that data over 3g and music (god knows why music is such a drain) are the real culprits here, so i'm praying that the techies at google manage to figure out better battery management.
use betterbatterystats and ensure your phone has no wakelocks and is properly deep sleeping.
also,
1. google maps: disable google latitude (automatic reporting of your location)
2. genie widget (news & weather) change its refresh interval
3. dont use bad apps like facebook which is known to use ur GPS significantly
4. disable google now cards you dont use
Hiya
Thanks for this
to be honest the drain when asleep isnt that bad, 1% every two hours or so .... like i say it's when the phone is in use and receiving data / playing music !!!
The SoC and the Radio are the biggest battery hogs in any modern smartphone.
The display would come in close after them, though.
Get your CPU and network load down, and you'll see a bigger improvement than turning the screen brightness down
gsusx said:
Hiya
Thanks for this
to be honest the drain when asleep isnt that bad, 1% every two hours or so .... like i say it's when the phone is in use and receiving data / playing music !!!
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It's been said because it's known that 3G/HSPA uses power like a mofo so it's "normal" - Using wifi will always have better results because of the faster data the CPU can go to sleep sooner as well.
hi
great thanks for replies
do you reckon it's something they might ever be able to fix though .... seems a shame for such a great phone to hampered with such bad battery issues
Doubt it as it's just the nature of the beast. Look up any device out there and you'll see they get longer battery life when using WIFI vs mobile data.

Horrible battery life

Horrible battery life.
i consider myself well versed in phones. In the past year i have had a Gnex, HTC One m7, and a moto x. Just got my s5 last week, and im lucky to get 12 hours battery life with 1.5 hours of on screen time. I have all the gestures and 'smart' stuff turned off. i dont get it. I have a handful off aps that i use, and have used on every phone. the only thing i can think of is perhaps its the google now launcher? has anyone else on here gotten HORRIBLE battery life with that installed?
That is bad indeed. Ive been on wifi most of today, different locations, and still have 30% right now with close to 6hrs screen time.
I have the GNL installed and I have amazing battery. I have location on "GPS Only" and photo auto-upload turned off. Everything else is on. What's your signal like? Worst case, try a factory reset. Oh, and turn off Google Now.
Also, why does your phone have 7bars instead of 4 or 5? Is that a sprint thing?
it looks like your system doong a lot of stuff, your screen On time should always be hiher and number 1. have you done anything to your cellphone? apps, xposed modules? custom roms?
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rochford77 said:
Horrible battery life.
i consider myself well versed in phones. In the past year i have had a Gnex, HTC One m7, and a moto x. Just got my s5 last week, and im lucky to get 12 hours battery life with 1.5 hours of on screen time. I have all the gestures and 'smart' stuff turned off. i dont get it. I have a handful off aps that i use, and have used on every phone. the only thing i can think of is perhaps its the google now launcher? has anyone else on here gotten HORRIBLE battery life with that installed?
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I have the same issue but stock UK. i leave mine plugged in at work as it's so poor.
Ive done factory resets etc and disabled loads of stuff so im crippling my phone and the battery is wank!
waz000000 said:
I have the same issue but stock UK. i leave mine plugged in at work as it's so poor.
Ive done factory resets etc and disabled loads of stuff so im crippling my phone and the battery is wank!
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Has to be a faulty battery or phone. Battery life on mine is fantastic.
fenchai said:
it looks like your system doong a lot of stuff, your screen On time should always be hiher and number 1. have you done anything to your cellphone? apps, xposed modules? custom roms?
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Not rooted, so nothing with exposed chewing up ram. I have GPS set to "battery saver". My signal at work is kinda 'meh' on LTE but 5 bars on 3g. My 4g speeds are about 15Mbps so it's not like the phone is spinnimg its wheels looking for data. I turned off location sharing from Google. So we will see how today goes.
Is 'GPS only' more battery friendly then 'battery saver' for location?
Attached is my app drawer. Nothing crazy...nothing that should be wake locking the phone....
Edit: I switched photos auto upload to only on WiFi only while charging last night as well. oh, I also charged to 100% last night with phone off using a USB 2.0 cable for a slower charge. If today goes poorly I'm going to try another battery, next step is hard reset with no 3rd party apps, then replace phone :\. I'll keep it updated.
trying a new kernel now to see if it changes anything as a test
Please keep us updated. I'm in the exact same boat as you.
Its "better" but not like it was before the update. Lost 20 % in 5 hours with 50min screen time
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much better
So its been much better today. See attached screen shots. Its not perfect but I have a big handful of apps syncing so 20hours on a charge is good for me. I mean, my moto-x got 20hrs, but that was on a highly optimized s4 pro processor only using a 4.7"amoled screen @ 720p. So if this 5"+ 1080p monster can get 20 with everything I throw at it im happy.
I think the biggest thing I did was settings - location - location services - google location reporting - off for this device.
The reason is GNL (GEL) was accessing location like crazy, so that helped.
I also made some other tweaks as stated in above posts, sorry I didnt do it scientifically by only changing one thing each day to pinpoint what it was. I turned off all of sammys 'smart' features and charged it to 100% on a 1A charger with a usb 2.0 cable with the device off. And turned off various other settings. Hope this helps.
The best thing I did for battery life was disable my Samsung account. The difference was incredible.
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aooga said:
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Also, why does your phone have 7bars instead of 4 or 5? Is that a sprint thing?
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Its 6, I thought it was a cdma thing...idk all the phones in my store have 6 bars except the n5
iresq said:
The best thing I did for battery life was disable my Samsung account. The difference was incredible.
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Samsung apps like s health still work?
rochford77 said:
Samsung apps like s health still work?
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Yes they do. Kill the Samsung account with fire.
Although some things like the default Browser only sync with a Samsung account, not with Google.
ok, I will tell you, battery saver mode is better than gps only mode. usb 2.0 or 3.0 doesnt affect charging speed, its just for data transfer speed.
maybe your google account was syncing or maybe your gallery was syncing.
this kills and uses a lot of data and battery, also facebook... please do a favor and turn every notification off. also, use greenify to cancel all apps syncing. well only the ones that you do not use.
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fenchai said:
ok, I will tell you, battery saver mode is better than gps only mode. usb 2.0 or 3.0 doesnt affect charging speed, its just for data transfer speed.
maybe your google account was syncing or maybe your gallery was syncing.
this kills and uses a lot of data and battery, also facebook... please do a favor and turn every notification off. also, use greenify to cancel all apps syncing. well only the ones that you do not use.
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No it isn't. Unless you use navigation all day, GPS Only mode is by FAR more battery friendly. The battery saving mode turns on Google location tracking and all that stuff...you know, the popup that you agree to each time. GPS only keeps that off which saves your battery a lot more. It's the worst named setting i've ever seen.
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No it isn't. Unless you use navigation all day, GPS Only mode is by FAR more battery friendly. The battery saving mode turns on Google location tracking and all that stuff...you know, the popup that you agree to each time. GPS only keeps that off which saves your battery a lot more. It's the worst named setting i've ever seen.
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You can`t use Google maps navigation with power saving mode that`s why I go back to my high accuracy setting however this didn`t change my battery stand by time by much I usually could go around 1 day and 20 hours on 1 charge depending on how much i use my phone with around 2 hours on screen time and some calls for probably 1 hour.
@op what software version you use because in the latest firmware for the G900F there is a battery improvement made so I do suggest to check your phone for software updates.
Other then that the battery life depends on how often you use your phone and for what.
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You can`t use Google maps navigation with power saving mode that`s why I go back to my high accuracy setting however this didn`t change my battery stand by time by much I usually could go around 1 day and 20 hours on 1 charge depending on how much i use my phone with around 2 hours on screen time and some calls for probably 1 hour.
@op what software version you use because in the latest firmware for the G900F there is a battery improvement made so I do suggest to check your phone for software updates.
Other then that the battery life depends on how often you use your phone and for what.
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Im on build 49h. However when i go to checl for a sw update I get this messege about unauthorized software. Im not rooted, no bootloader unlock, nothing. Ive never even plugged this into a desktop. I run gel and have selected ART in dev options as well as increased transitions to .5 and have usb debug enabled. Wtf?
Fixed: ART was the issue. I hate you samsung. Smh.
Edit: art was the issue with the "unknown software" issue, not the battery life/op

[Q] Unrooted Note 3 - Battery Drain, Most Tips didn't work.

Hi Guys,
Firstly, I know there are several threads with different tips and suggestions but most of them didn't work for me.
Recently (since more than a week) , I have noticed strange drain in battery and getting hot pretty quickly. It has kitkat and I didn't get time to use it properly in the beginning. After reading different threads and forums here's what I did:
- Let it drain completely, shut off, took out battery for a couple of hrs and then charged without switching on. x2
- Rebooted after charging
- Uninstalled some apps I thought might be problematic
- Factory Reset (such a pain!)
- When attached to Kies, it prompted for Firmware update N9005XXUENC2 followed by another factory reset and hard reset.
- Cleared cache by going into recovery mode.
- Rebooting after charging
But seems like none of it made much difference, my routine use
- couple of hours on wifi
- no heavy games, only temple run, subway surf etc.
- no streaming
- no lengthy calls, not a lot of messaging
- 1, 2 hrs of music
- Syncing off, gps off, blue tooth off, Wifi mostly off, power saving on, brightness on auto, no 3g/4g data, almost no photos and video capturing, sensors, motions off except smart stay
I don't want to root the phone because of my busy schedule, with some difficulty I was able install WLD on it which resets after Rebooting. Point is, I am not a heavy user and this being a "beast" isn't quite unleashing the beasty-battery-life. I do get more than a day but that is when it's in deep sleep for 20hrs or more. I took some screenshots after reseting, updating firmware. It's past 3 battery cycles now, I will attach the latest one's to not clutter it up. I like this phone, but this battery is just not good enough. So, please helpful answers that don't require rooting.
Thank you for reading and Good day!
Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!
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Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!
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Hey MPDnnrd,
Thank you for your response.
It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?
I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much. :good:
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Hey MPDnnrd,
Thank you for your response.
It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?
I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much. :good:
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I'm sorry to have to say this but I think you got a pretty normal battery drain by looking on your screens. You played almost one hour subway surf(which drains the battery pretty quick) and I guess the other hours where internet (also known to drain battery) or calls/messages. On a not rooted device with stock kernel that seems like normal battery usage to me!!!
However if you like to check these maybe u get a couple of percentages(not that much though I guess):
-Power saving mode in notification drawer makes your cpu clock go down (not sure u got it on not rooted device sry)
-check turn of pen detection in s pen settings
-put the brightness on auto or put it down manually
-if you can change the theme color in apps do so(make it black)
-check the svoice settings so it doesn't listen to your voice
-if you don't care how your phone looks buy a zerolemon battery(I think it makes your phone too big but that's preference)
-don't use a bright background keep it dark colors and no live wallpaper as well
Maybe that helps a little.
I don't see any drain either. Almost 6 hours screen on during 24 hours is excellent, additional 1.5 hour awake time for other services. Excellent battery life.
Settings - General - Applications - disable unnecessary apps
In Google Settings, opt-out interest-based ads and disable location access.
Thank you for your reponses guys - thing is it actually had much better battery life. What I don't understand is the fact that Screen % used to be on top and android os and system was below it but now it has been on top.
I have tweaked quite a few things already that 4aces suggested and the S-voice thing seems new, I'll look at it. Today it didn't even last a full day whereas I know people who even after heavy usage get easily more than a day - mine one, I don't use it this much. The Zerolemon thing is beast but then the phone is a freakin block lol so heavy and big, good travel etc. where you can't charge your phone and has a rugged case.
But there's a change that I saw today, Android System is now below the screen so I am not sure what made it do that but may the next time I charge it gets better and so on. I'll keep you guys posted after charging it today, I'll monitor what I do.
Blondasisko - I wouldn't really call it excellent, but it's sort of getting better than it was in the first 2 cycles. But how do I reduce additional awake time for other services? Moreover, you might've noticed I got till 1% to get this much time like really stretched it to get there.
Someguyfromhell - Already done, locations were off starting today.
Can anyone else comment on their daily routine of usage and the battery drainage ratio?
If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours
I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.
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If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours
I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.
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I guess I should feel lucky, I have ZERO syncing, auto brightness, no live wallpapers or gimmicky stuff on, no gps, hardly 10mins or so on phone calls and prolly 30-60mins on messaging a day.
@all others - and the Android System is back on top - what could be the possible reasons for it?
I think its because of such minimal use that the system goes on top. The system still had to operate so when you have hardly used the phone then the system will go on top. Though with that usage you've stated you should get nearer 2 days really
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I think its because of such minimal use that the system goes on top. The system still had to operate so when you have hardly used the phone then the system will go on top. Though with that usage you've stated you should get nearer 2 days really
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You're right probably, this is what I'd like to know as to what is running in the background that drains more battery? Exactly, at-least 1.5 days is what I should get with this usage. May be I should buy a new battery and see how it works.

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