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Hey guys, I'm an avid photo enthusiast. I've been less than impressed with the Mytouch 3G camera sharpness to say the least. With apps like "FXcamera" and "vignette" ive been using the phone to take little artsy snap shots more and more.
Today i realized when i took my battery cover off the camera sharpness improved 100X!!! so much better! The crappy flimsy plastic that HTC used in the battery cover is naturally foggy and causes light to streak in pictures.
So in the end i took an Xacto knife and removed the little plastic window from my battery door.
My phone can now take sharp pictures all the time.
I thought I'd share this bit of info! Try it yourself... take a couple shots without the battery cover! Hope this can help my fellow frustrated MT3G owners
don't know about the MT3G, but the Magic (Vodafone) doesn't have any foil on the camera hole on the battery cover...
but though, thanks for sharing
sirdani said:
don't know about the MT3G, but the Magic (Vodafone) doesn't have any foil on the camera hole on the battery cover...
but though, thanks for sharing
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Not talking about the foil. Talking about actually removing the plastic glass thats attached to the battery cover. So theres just a hole instead of having "glass". that little peice of fake glass destroys the cameras quality. if you take a couple shots without your battery door you'll notice a huge improvment.
dills84 said:
Not talking about the foil. Talking about actually removing the plastic glass thats attached to the battery cover. So theres just a hole instead of having "glass". that little peice of fake glass destroys the cameras quality. if you take a couple shots without your battery door you'll notice a huge improvment.
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I think he was saying that the Magic already has a hole in the battery cover, there is no fake glass piece
might be a good tip for MT3G users though!
Your not worried about the camera lens itself getting dirty? I love taking pics too and they always seem to have a hazy/foggy look. I always used a q-tip to clean the peep hole but now I'm considering your method too.
phatmanxxl said:
Your not worried about the camera lens itself getting dirty? I love taking pics too and they always seem to have a hazy/foggy look. I always used a q-tip to clean the peep hole but now I'm considering your method too.
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i tried everything to clean the little plastic peice, even expencive pro lens fluid (called Eclipse).
I think the plastic is just cheap and will always be foggy.
The lens on the camera inside is pretty heavy duty and set back about 1/8" from the cover... so its pretty impossible to hit it with anything. Its also easier to clean that lens than the battery door lens. It really makes a huuuge difference
Yea I noticed a huge differencealso, and I was able to just push out the lens cover out of the battery door with my thumbnail. But Im just afraid it will I will fog up the camera lense too like dust,sweat, pocket lint, etc. Ill just take the battery door off when I take my pictures unless I can find something to replace the lense cover, like some other piece of plastic or something I can glue onto the back. Ill post any solutions.
Took the plastic cover off as well. Wow, now I will actually use my camera...it was pointless before. Crapy design HTC.
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That's odd, my Rogers HTC Magic doesn't have a glass pane on my battery cover.
Taken with my phone.
Taknarosh said:
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That's odd, my Rogers HTC Magic doesn't have a glass pane on my battery cover.
Taken with my phone.
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No I beleive the OP is referring to the glass or plastic cover over the camera area of the back cover.
My HTC Magic from vodafone UK doesn't have this but I would imagine removing it would be better
I did this and yes the picture quality improves but the music now sounds less deep, less bass.
Try it and cover the hole with your finger and you will see what I mean.
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No I beleive the OP is referring to the glass or plastic cover over the camera area of the back cover.
My HTC Magic from vodafone UK doesn't have this but I would imagine removing it would be better
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He is holding his battery cover..
A battery cover is to.. cover a battery to make sure it doesn't fall out. He is holding the right object and mine does not have it either.
i broke down and took out the plastic thing, no problem with the lens getting dirty so far.
my vodafone magic doesn't have the protective lens cover on the battery cover.
it does however have a lens protector covering the lens on the actual body of the phone.
it takes pretty good photos though, so maybe it's made of a different material than on the MT3G?
Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
Guess not.. This is not modding... it is actually kinda dumbing.. Give it a week or two.. and then check for all the dust that you're going to have in there...
And lets not talk about a rainy day... The phone probably will go RIP...
So if I were you all.. Ill stay wit the piece of plastic... That my opinion
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Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
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Actually, HTC didn't put it on their branded Magics... Vodafone's and Rogers' Magics don't have it either... only the myTouch 3G
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Yeah not a good idea at all...
Do you think that htc putted the plastic cover there just so it would look fancy?
Guess not.. This is not modding... it is actually kinda dumbing.. Give it a week or two.. and then check for all the dust that you're going to have in there...
And lets not talk about a rainy day... The phone probably will go RIP...
So if I were you all.. Ill stay wit the piece of plastic... That my opinion
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Since I "modded" the phone i have not had a problem with dust or anything like that. Thats what concerned me the most before I did it. And as for a rainy day, I know better than to take my phone out into the rain.
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Since I "modded" the phone i have not had a problem with dust or anything like that. Thats what concerned me the most before I did it. And as for a rainy day, I know better than to take my phone out into the rain.
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Lol who would go and take pics in the rain with their phone anyway?
You could always remove the battery cover when you take pictures, it might seem odd, but that way you won't have to remove that plastic piece, but you do risk getting your lense dirty faster even if you do remove the cover for a minute or so.
or.... we could just seek out a better replacement.
don't they make clearer plastics we could use to replace this?
Ok, I'm getting frustrated
I've somehow gotten a black speck of something inside my camera lens (not the lens cover...I've already removed that and cleaned it to no avail)
I can see it in the viewfinder, but it never moves. I've tried shooting a small amount of air into the crack above the camera and that hasn't worked either
has anyone successfully removed the camera or gotten into it?
how?
does anyone have any advice for my situation?
camera was a deciding factor for me on this phone and one little speck is messing up all my photos
also, feel free to comment on how stinkin cute my kids are
Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.
sryan2k1 said:
Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.
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I was afraid somebody would say that.
no I didn't...at least not consciously
Cute kids...
bilbobrian said:
Cute kids...
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yeah, they get that from their momma
anybody know how to fix my little sensor problem?
Mine too....
The camera lens cover is held on with double sided tape. You can pry it off with ease and clean the inside of the lens cover or the camera itself.
You could also access it without removing the lens cover, but that involves removing the battery tray panel thing. That requires removing the 4 torx screws at the corners, removing the void sticker on that screw, and then popping the panel off.
I've had mine off a few times to mess around with swapping the power and volume buttons from the red developer case that I nabbed off EBay. Didn't actually swap the buttons, but took a look at what was involved in the process.
Good luck!
Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?
ACD168 said:
Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?
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no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.
obededom said:
no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.
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dude sorry to hear about this, that is BS!! you should take it into Verizon or call for a refurb! they actually are nice, its like getting a brand new phone, and if it craps out, I guess its rinse and repeat.
Recently purchased a X10 and some how dirt and muck had got under the screen, I decided to buy it as I was confidant I could take it apart and clean it.
One thing I also noticed was that the photos were not very good. Upon inspection of the camera I noticed the plastic cover over the camera lens, this was clean however my theory was any bright light sources off centre of the camera were scattering across this plastic section and making photos look a little washed out and blurry.
Anyway I took the phone apart and cleaned the muck from under the screen and now it looks brand new.
I then popped out this plastic piece from in front of the camera and put her back together.
Here are some disassembly pics.
This is the plastic part i popped out from the camera
And here are the before and after camera samples. Straight out the cam no edit. "more to come"
Before
After
More after shots.
Think you will agree MASSIVE difference. Only draw back is im not sure if the ir filter is built into this plastic bit, and now the camera has no protection from dust etc, but I always clean my gear regularly anyway.
Edit - Seems this glass protection wasnt the IR filter so all is good . I'm dumping new test pics in the following dropbox folder.
http://db.tt/OV9b9WP
Really happy with this phone now.
Wow, that's a huge difference.
3 years ago, my w810i's lens cracked. Photos weren't bad or anything but it bothered me. I bought a cheap pair of glasses online (5$ i think) with a uv film (that's the slight purple tint on the plastic cover) and tried to fashion the lens into a size that could replace the oem piece of glass. I took a few photos and it was a huge difference as well.
Unfortunately, glass from the glasses were too thick and it wouldn't fit with the backcover on. I bought a UV filter for slr cameras but those were way too thick. I thought of trying with a slide cover slip but that project ended up dying when my bro's phone died (i gave him the w810 and picked up a K790a).
Does anyone know of any glass makers/fabricators that can make an optically clear piece of glass with a coat of UV (filter)? I'll take a look online when I get home. I use the camera on my phone pretty regularly so I'd be willing to purchase a glass cover. Just something to protect the lens.
A spec of dust has still got back in today lol. Will take it apart again in the week and plug all the joints.
That is a huge difference in those comparison pictures.
But I guess that cover isn't supposed to come off right?
Damn, how did you took off that plastic camera sheild?
Imagine this with Vignette...
so i guess if i put some high quality glass instead of plastic, quality should increase
What an awesome solution. You should put a guide up on how to do this. You might have good ideas grow from that. Ask the mods if you can do this. I would love a guide to know how if my lens gets that dirty. And those before and after pics are amazing too. Great post and info owner of post.
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Thanks guys. The phones pretty simple to take apart. I had to take it all apart to clean the screen but to cam mod you don't have to remove the motherboard so its much easier. I'm adding pics into my dropbox link all the time too.
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Thanks guys. The phones pretty simple to take apart. I had to take it all apart to clean the screen but to cam mod you don't have to remove the motherboard so its much easier. I'm adding pics into my dropbox link all the time too.
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Does removing this part have any negative effects?
Like would the lens be more prone to dust & scratches without it?
I noticed on some picutures that theres a minute amount of red tint. Is that normal?
That IS a huge difference.
Do you think it would be hard to repaint the whole device from white to black?
EDIT: Done!
Night and day difference. Incredible. Please tell me this doesnt require messing around with the screen as I dont want to risk messing with the screen placement or anything.
How exactly do we remove this little piece?
clixt said:
I noticed on some picutures that theres a minute amount of red tint. Is that normal?
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I think i see a red tint on photos of my chickens, maybe the colors of the chickens is messing with the auto white balance?
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That IS a huge difference.
Do you think it would be hard to repaint the whole device from white to black?
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fairly easy i would say.
3dawg said:
Night and day difference. Incredible. Please tell me this doesnt require messing around with the screen as I dont want to risk messing with the screen placement or anything.
How exactly do we remove this little piece?
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ok The only reason i took the phone apart is to get to the screen I had bad dust under it and had to take the lot apart to get to the screen.
For the cam mod take you battery cover off, now inspect the plastic over the camera very closely and you will see its glued down, use a small tool to pry it off.
Lots more pics added to dropbox link.
A few edited with Picnik and put on my Flickr. Sandy girl was actually before the mod "not as sharp as it should have been" All the latest on Dropbox link on first post.
Sandy girl. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr
Summer night coming. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr
Long standing. by Scott..Hutchinson, on Flickr
theninjagecko said:
I think i see a red tint on photos of my chickens, maybe the colors of the chickens is messing with the auto white balance?
fairly easy i would say.
ok The only reason i took the phone apart is to get to the screen I had bad dust under it and had to take the lot apart to get to the screen.
For the cam mod take you battery cover off, now inspect the plastic over the camera very closely and you will see its glued down, use a small tool to pry it off.
Lots more pics added to dropbox link.
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The plastic on my camera is pretty scratched up, so I'd like to take it out.
I tried but it seems really difficult. Can you please elaborate on how you did it?
Which tool did you use, etc?
My_Immortal said:
The plastic on my camera is pretty scratched up, so I'd like to take it out.
I tried but it seems really difficult. Can you please elaborate on how you did it?
Which tool did you use, etc?
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Because i too the phone apart to clean my screen i could poke it out from the back.
if you look really closely its glued from the outside though and you should be able to get a really small flat head screwdriver "from a pc repair kit" and pry it off. It's just glued down.
If you look at this picture with my battery cover off you can see where the glass sits in the circular groove. You can even see some left over glue residue on it.
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theninjagecko said:
Because i too the phone apart to clean my screen i could poke it out from the back.
if you look really closely its glued from the outside though and you should be able to get a really small flat head screwdriver "from a pc repair kit" and pry it off. It's just glued down.
If you look at this picture with my battery cover off you can see where the glass sits in the circular groove. You can even see some left over glue residue on it.
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It seems that it is extremely difficult to do it from the outside.
I've tried everything, it's glued very strongly, it won't come out,
I've been trying for 2 hours! Time to give up!
Thanks for the tips though!
My_Immortal said:
It seems that it is extremely difficult to do it from the outside.
I've tried everything, it's glued very strongly, it won't come out,
I've been trying for 2 hours! Time to give up!
Thanks for the tips though!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ
theninjagecko said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ
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Thanks man!
theninjagecko said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypmgeoaDURQ
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Awesome!
I'm kind of embarrased though, should have thought to search on YouTube myself!
Hi, just got my LGG2. Love it! For anyone who doesn't know there are very small pieces of protective plastic on the sides that are hard to see. If your device feels rough at all anywhere, there's still plastic to peel off.
Also, does anyone know if there is a piece protecting the camera lens? I can't tell but it kinda looks like there's one on there. Thought I'd check before I get too aggressive with it. The GS4 had one and many people don't even know it and it stays on for weeks giving subpar pics!
I'm wondering the same thing about the camera lens. It kinda looks like it does but I would need a razor to get it started ....and that might be asking for trouble.
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Exactly my thoughts. Hopefully someone knows for sure. Seems kind of odd if it doesn't since the rest of the device was practically shrink wrapped.
so I tried to see using a needle if there was anything there and didn't seem to be. I also placed a piece of tape on it and pulled it off to see if it lifted at all. Didn't seem like anything there
All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.
Gasaraki- said:
All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.
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If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.
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If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.
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Yes, that's exactly what i said. If your ring is blue, there's plastic on it.
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Yes, that's exactly what i said. If your ring is blue, there's plastic on it.
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Meant to quote rquiett who was having trouble using tape and couldn't figure if he had a plastic cover.
Gasaraki- said:
All I know is the blue ring around the camera is not really blue. There's plastic on the ring. The camera lens itself I can't tell.
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ROFLMAO!! I thought that was how it was supposed to look because of the sapphire lense or something! Ahahahah!
At first I thought it looked weird, but then I started to like it. Now I'm torn! Do I take it off or leave it!?
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If you have a blue ring around your lense, you still have plastic on it. Take a little work, but got it off with my fingernail.
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Do you still have the plastic piece? Can you snap a pic if it? I still cant tell if i have one in there and i want to see the shape of it. Lol! This is ridiculous. Why would some have one and others not? Has to be one on there.
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Hahaha well damn. I thought the blue ring was just a strange design choice.
WMguy said:
Do you still have the plastic piece? Can you snap a pic if it? I still cant tell if i have one in there and i want to see the shape of it. Lol! This is ridiculous. Why would some have one and others not? Has to be one on there.
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I don't. I took it off in the store.
It's a light blue color, but looks darker with the grey behind it. It's the exact size of the bezel around the camera, edge to edge and it is a semi-hard plastic (when i got my nail under it, it shot across the sales floor). I promise you that you will know if it's on there. It's either blue or the exact same burshed aluminum color as the volume rockers (Verizon).
Is this the protect piece that's over the camera and can be removed? I been trying to remove it and I can't.
http://imgur.com/KaJvtoA
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cmbtswmr said:
I don't. I took it off in the store.
It's a light blue color, but looks darker with the grey behind it. It's the exact size of the bezel around the camera, edge to edge and it is a semi-hard plastic (when i got my nail under it, it shot across the sales floor). I promise you that you will know if it's on there. It's either blue or the exact same burshed aluminum color as the volume rockers (Verizon).
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So have anyone else been able to remove this so called protective film or Plastic piece off the back of the camera? My friend tried and the entire piece that surround the camera lens, began to come off.
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So have anyone else been able to remove this so called protective film or Plastic piece off the back of the camera? My friend tried and the entire piece that surround the camera lens, began to come off.
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What???
I think you got something else going on over there. It took me all of two seconds to pop it off with a fingernail. It's not stuck on there hard. So if you're applying any force to it, then you're messing with the bezel not the plastic.
I really suggest you swing by a store and check their display model. It almost certainly has the plastic off by now and you can compare in person.
Good luck
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
Pics are in attachment.
Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
EvilKing009 said:
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
Pics are in attachment.
Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
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Toothpaste method is for removing oleophobic coating, it doesn't really remove the scratches but the whole thing on top of your lense. If it doesn't work for you, then it might be that the camera lense on g2 is different from the phone the guide you were following was written for. If your pics quality is really affected by the scratches, you should change the rear housing backplate that contains camera lens & volume buttons. It's around $20 I think.
MilanStojkovic said:
Toothpaste method is for removing oleophobic coating, it doesn't really remove the scratches but the whole thing on top of your lense. If it doesn't work for you, then it might be that the camera lense on g2 is different from the phone the guide you were following was written for. If your pics quality is really affected by the scratches, you should change the rear housing backplate that contains camera lens & volume buttons. It's around $20 I think.
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yes.Camera is creating foggy and grainy pictures so thats why i am looking for it,how about if i use metal polish on it ??
EvilKing009 said:
yes.Camera is creating foggy and grainy pictures so thats why i am looking for it,how about if i use metal polish on it ??
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Metal polish doesn't sound like a good idea, it might damage the glass (if it's glass underneath anyways). Just noticed mine is scratched too, but pics seem decent. It's a really bad quality I guess since I use double layer hard case for my phone and I doubt lens is in contact with anything most of the time. I dunno man, google a bit about it. Replacing the part if nothing works, or if you mess things up. Be careful. There are some guides online but I think finding out which material is it made of is essential. For example, if it's polycarbonate you can use something with hydrofluoric acid. It will remove everything from it leaving the lense clear. But if it's glass, hydrofluoric acid will dissolve it and make it look like frosted glass.
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Metal polish doesn't sound like a good idea, it might damage the glass (if it's glass underneath anyways). Just noticed mine is scratched too, but pics seem decent. It's a really bad quality I guess since I use double layer hard case for my phone and I doubt lens is in contact with anything most of the time. I dunno man, google a bit about it. Replacing the part if nothing works, or if you mess things up. Be careful.
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Thanks.I guess it is the only way to fix is to replace its rear cam housing.
Pretty cheap fix, I'm having the same problem with the rear can pics coming out foggy with streaks.
EvilKing009 said:
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
Pics are in attachment.
Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
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pretty sure you are over it by now, but ill leave this gem over here.
buy off a low quality phone housing and replaced only the camera lens glass cover by popping it out. ebay had an offer for $5+ as i remember.
well, its not that so hard for you to find its housing.For me, in my country , its really really hard to find as no one sells LG parts so much.
If you are having trouble finding it and you don't mind waiting, order it online. AliExpress for example