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HTC one great phone, lacks focus

I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?

I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.

RoSonic_ said:
I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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Can you explain what DOF is?
Is there anyway I could fix it? You think anyone else has this problem?

"depth of field (DOF) is the distance between the nearest and farthest objects in a scene that appear acceptably sharp in an image." - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field)
And I don't think it's a problem. It's just how the lens is made with a large aperture to allow more light in to the image sensor.
You could try to compensate this a bit by increasing the sharpness from the camera menu.

I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
americasteam said:
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?

The problem is when the image contains both dark and bright areas, if you focus on the bright, the dark areas will be underexposed and if you focus on the dark the bright areas will be overexposed, you need to find an area to focus on that will give you an average exposure for the entire image.
I have the same problem, but some photo`s are amazing and some are utter crap.
Try using hdr mode, it takes multiple images at different exposure levels and then integrates them into one photo, but you need to keep the phone very steady, hopefully HTC will fix this problem.
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
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Mine does this as well. Easiest fix I've come across is just tapping on the screen in the area you want focused...it seems to hold focus better after the first time and the photos look a lot better.
Problem is, I generally forget about this until after the first picture is taken without it. So it's a process for sure.
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Has anybody tried some other camera apps from the play store, maybe we can find one that exposes correctly, i wish the one had my nikon`s matrix metering
John.
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I bought this Camera Zoom FX app for £0.50p on sale that i never used, i think it`s about time i tried it.
John.

Mine is the same way. Wasn't bashing the camera was just giving my first impression of the pic posted. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. Small sensor and tiny optics will only go so far. This device is fantastic as an overall package.
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The sensor is great for a phone camera, but the software that does the exposure is very very poor or am i missing something???
John.

You rack focus
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.

Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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NxNW said:
Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Well its not a repetitive condition but occurs once in a while. Even in videos.

Try camera fv-5 from playstore. DSLR style camera app with multiple metering modes.
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AllAboutTheCore said:
Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
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I do think it's a flaw in the camera software that exposure and focus can't be decoupled. I LOVE the shallow depth of field but can't use it property because touching-to-focus blows out highlights.

uzman1243 said:
I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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chc31 said:
Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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The black lines on the image, I DREW to show where it gets blurred (not panaroma).
You're right, but when I focus on the center, all objects in the background should get blurred right? I mean thats how the focus works. You focus on a particular subject (lets assume in the foreground) the objects in background gets blurred.
If you see the image I uploaded (in the top line) the upper part of the tree is blurred and the lower part is focused.
It doesn't work like that right?

[Q] Camera Noise

Hey,
I have come from a HTC One phone and the photo quality was fantastic... I no have the Note 3 and have noticed that the auto focus isnt that great and photo quality isnt that brilliant either, not sure if its my phone or the lighting...
I have added a fews that I have taken...
Any suggestions would b great on how to improve photo quality... Being Samsung I thought camera would be very high quality...
coolfreebies

coolfreebies said:
Hey,
I have come from a HTC One phone and the photo quality was fantastic... I no have the Note 3 and have noticed that the auto focus isnt that great and photo quality isnt that brilliant either, not sure if its my phone or the lighting...
I have added a fews that I have taken...
Any suggestions would b great on how to improve photo quality... Being Samsung I thought camera would be very high quality...
coolfreebies
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try turning on the touch to snap picture feature. this allows the phone to auto focus and then take the picture, removing the possibility of you bumping your phone pressing the snap button

Yeah those photos area really out of focus... Try resetting the focus mode from center to matrix and back.

The minute you zoom in on a photo taken with the Note 3 you will find that a huge amount of noise and grain exist but if you take a picture on a sunny and clear day outside without zooming in on picture it is taken then you will find picture to be acceptable.
Vide recordings on the Note 3 are great but picture quality and speaker volume/sound leave a bit to be desired. Otherwise I love my Note 3. Had it come with pair of speakers like those on the HTC ONE and with a better camera it would have been perfect.

Set 'tap to take pics' to off, then tap the screen anywhere to focus there. It'll show a green square if the focus is locked.
Also check that the protective foil is removed from the camera.
If you're having difficulty focusing close to the camera (+- 20cm), turn on Macro.
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ShadowLea said:
Set 'tap to take pics' to off, then tap the screen anywhere to focus there. It'll show a green square if the focus is locked.
Also check that the protective foil is removed from the camera.
If you're having difficulty focusing close to the camera (+- 20cm), turn on Macro.
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I did not find a macro option on mine

desiregeek said:
I did not find a macro option on mine
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Huh, that's odd... Mine had
It but it's gone now... Did they delete it in the recent update?
I still hate the lack of a manual mode.. Made me leave the stock camera behind.
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Also turn on stabilization mode.
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People with unclear photos

Try taking the photo with the phone positioned on top of something, thus it will be steady. Have just tried taking a picture of some text 3 times and each was slightly blurred, took photo with phone on table and was spot on.
Shame that these phones don't have OIS
I must be having a shakey hand day!

Anti-motion blur scn mode help here at all ?

Finger prints or something on the lens, bad focus selection eg no good contrast variation for the camera to make a valid decision, or you have an issue hardware

Maybe your Z1 has some hardware issue. I always shoot handheld and no blur unless you are shooting in low light.
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You can try to use the micro distance photography pattern.
If you phone still can't automatically focus, it may be the camera has broken.

LotoTutu said:
You can try to use the micro distance photography pattern.
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Could you explain some more what you mean by this ?

One Twelve said:
Could you explain some more what you mean by this ?
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I believe it's some kind of pattern that you can print out in order to test/adjust your lens's focus

Gathered as much with a quick google, thing is cameras must have a facility to make this adjustment.
The Z1 or any phone for that matter does not have it.

Galaxy S5 macro photography problem - plz help

Hi,
I want to capture small objects like small flowers, bees, insects and pests but cant get the Samsung Galaxy S5 to focus on anything close. My S3 had a button for Macro Photography. I don't see this option and when I tap to focus, it tries but it acts like it's too close and fails. It looks like it will focus on the close object for like a second, then it zooms back out.
I have tried to turn off auto focus and stabilization but the result is same.
What should i do now to fix it?
Or maybe any third party app can do it?

Make sure "Selective Focus" option is disabled. This automatically turns on macros, although you don't see an actual macros on/off toggle, but I'm able to take pictures in focus in 2.5-3 inches distance from the lens, which is technically the "macro range"

Commodore 64 said:
Make sure "Selective Focus" option is disabled. This automatically turns on macros, although you don't see an actual macros on/off toggle, but I'm able to take pictures in focus in 2.5-3 inches distance from the lens, which is technically the "macro range"
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it tries but it acts like it's too close and fails. It looks like it will focus on the close object for like a second, then it zooms back out.
I have tried to turn off auto focus and stabilization but the result is same.
Can u share some pics of small objects u captured?
Thanks

There is a limit to how close you can get with the S5 camera, as the lens is static, no moving parts to focus really
The S5 does like lots of light though, so you'll get much better results if the subject is very brightly lit, and it will focus much better with more light
Don't expect miracles like a DSLR can do though, but you can get some pretty great shots

*Detection* said:
There is a limit to how close you can get with the S5 camera, as the lens is static, no moving parts to focus really
The S5 does like lots of light though, so you'll get much better results if the subject is very brightly lit, and it will focus much better with more light
Don't expect miracles like a DSLR can do though, but you can get some pretty great shots
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Then i need to get s3 coz i 've experienced good macro photography with it.
Thanks

Is there any way to make the 6P's camera focus on close objects?

Hi,
So I tend to take a lot of super close up pics, mostly of different small computer parts and it's really annoying that the Nexus 6P cannot focus on close objects.
Is there any possible way to make it focus on close objects, any possible way is fine with me.

Use a camera app that has macro focus?

I've actually been wondering this as well.
velveteen71 said:
Use a camera app that has macro focus?
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Do you have any suggestions?

seboj said:
I've actually been wondering this as well.
Do you have any suggestions?
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I don't use this app myself, but I've read this app has the possibility: HD Camera Pro .

i have the same gripe, but i have come to find out that the camera doesnt really have to be sooo close to the subject to take good pics.
use MANUAL CAMERA, it allows you to adjust focus manually to macro... and u will see that the minimum working distance is about 4-5 inches away

I've used Manual Camera as well for macro shots, seems to work pretty good.

swallowingled said:
I've used Manual Camera as well for macro shots, seems to work pretty good.
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chaco81 said:
i have the same gripe, but i have come to find out that the camera doesnt really have to be sooo close to the subject to take good pics.
use MANUAL CAMERA, it allows you to adjust focus manually to macro... and u will see that the minimum working distance is about 4-5 inches away
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That's nice to know, but which settings to modify for macro shots?

Not a software solution, but you can buy on ebay for a few bucks macro lens. I have played with it a little bit, and the results are excellent. And since you are working with computer parts, if you have nearby old CD/DVD drive, try to pull out lens from it. You will be amazed with result (but it will give you blur effect on everything that is not in the center of the image, opposite to macro lens where everything is clear).

srdjannj said:
Not a software solution, but you can buy on ebay for a few bucks macro lens. I have played with it a little bit, and the results are excellent. And since you are working with computer parts, if you have nearby old CD/DVD drive, try to pull out lens from it. You will be amazed with result (but it will give you blur effect on everything that is not in the center of the image, opposite to macro lens where everything is clear).
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Wow, thanks, I do have a couple of old DvD drives lying around, I will give it a shot.

[email protected] said:
Wow, thanks, I do have a couple of old DvD drives lying around, I will give it a shot.
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cool macro lense i used to have was the outer lense of a disposable camera
u opened it, cut the lense with some plastic from the front housing and used it
now that i have a 3d printer, i would venture to print a holder for one of them... guess i gotta go get another disposable camera