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Followup to this msg: We have enough volunteers. I just need to work thru some issues with jcase before we start testing. Please be patient.
Good news everyone...
About 8 days ago I rooted my TB -without-losing-ANYTHING-.
I'd like to get a few volunteers to try the procedure before I make it public...
Anyone with an UN-rooted phone who's willing to be a guinea pig, please PM me. Ideal volunteers would be moderately tech-savvy and not have anything on their phone that would be catastrophic if it were lost.
You'd also be a good candidate to help getting this procedure worked out if you just want to root your phone and don't care if you lose anything...
If you're wondering why I don't just post it, I had several false starts (kept getting interrupted because I didn't allow enough time) and then didn't take detailed notes on the final run where I managed to finish it. I want the instructions to be fairly solid before I throw anyone with critical phone data into the procedure.
I hope you understand and will be patient while I get this properly documented...
We already have root?
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We already have root?
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The current root removes all of your data, he's saying he found a way to do it and not lose any data.
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We already have root?
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Yes....but he's looking for testers who possibly won't lose any data, apps, etc., by going to root from stock.
We have root, but any process, automated or manual...will put the phone back to 100% stock and remove any and all user info.
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We already have root?
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We have root but the current method wipes the data. He has found a way to root without losing data. That's the way I took it.
Edit: both of you beat me to it lol
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No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
I'm willing to try it
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Ill try it our for you. Ill unroot when I get home and give your method a shot. Let me know
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No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
Followup volunteering msgs sent to lgldrgdlr and rjackson23 (who should have PM'ed me...)
I think we have enough volunteers at this time. Thanks.
I'm working with jcase (who may have a missing piece of the puzzle for a no-loss variant that would take MUCH less time to run). I'll keep you informed as this progresses...
wmserver said:
I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
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I'm in that boat.. I want root, but not really interested in other ROMs at this time. I went down that road wit hmy X and my Xoom, and its a pain, especially wit hthe Xoom and the move from 3.01 to 3.1 and now 3.2.
I guess one main question is if you root the TB, does it hack the hotspot as well, or would i still need to go get Wireless Tether?
jwb
This would be extremely useful...don't listen to the naysayers.
For those of us who waited to root a week, two, or even a month or two after getting the phone, there was no way to make a solid backup of apps, settings, etc. since most of the better methods require root. So many things had to be wiped clean completely. With a no-wipe root, whether you move onto ROMs or not, you have the opportunity to take a nandroid, use Titanium Backup, etc.
I can't donate my time or phone since I'm busy at work and need a strong daily driver, but I wish you luck.
I just rooted my phone yesterday. I would have liked to try it out and be part of the breathrough.
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Jolest said:
Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
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great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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superchilpil said:
great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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Sorry... Unfortunately, it's not any easier. It's an add-on to jcase's root method so it still uses adb. It actually takes about 3 times as much time as his, but most of that time is waiting for backup and restore operations to complete.
Very glad to hear development is still ongoing for root! I like this! I hope it works out well. I'd volunteer but I'm past that point. I ran my dInc stock rooted for a pretty long time before trying a custom ROM. This makes a lot of sense to me.
I'll be watching this. My wife won't let me root her TB because she doesn't want to redo her settings.
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I advise against using this backup method, taking a DD of /data while its r/w can lead to corruption.
A better idea would be to push su (aka a temp root) into your path and use something like titanium backup to backup you data.
Thanks for any help in advance.
I have an 8GB Nexus that I've used for a while so it's pretty 'customized' with apps and settings.
I'm going to get a 16GB and want to migrate to that.
What's the best way? Currently the 8GB is not rooted.
Should I use the Toolkit to make a nandroid, can you even do that non-rooted?
Also is there a way to root the new 16GB and then migrate the 8GB system and have root 'stick'? (I want to try out Stickman for flash drives).
Thanks for any tips or hints.
You could do two things.
a) You could do some backups with wugfresh's toolkit like a nandroid, or if you don't want to root it, an app backup (APN)
b) You could root, get titanium backup and upload your backups to your drop box and restore from your 16g.
Good luck!
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Stevenator21 said:
You could do two things.
a) You could do some backups with wugfresh's toolkit like a nandroid, or if you don't want to root it, an app backup (APN)
b) You could root, get titanium backup and upload your backups to your drop box and restore from your 16g.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the response. I'm happy to root, I just thought it was a 'destructive' root. Is there a way to root without destroying my apps / data? (I have had two Epic Samsung phones for Sprint so I'm pretty familiar with rooting, roms etc..)
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You could do two things.
a) You could do some backups with wugfresh's toolkit like a nandroid, or if you don't want to root it, an app backup (APN)
b) You could root, get titanium backup and upload your backups to your drop box and restore from your 16g.
Good luck!
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Doesn't it factory reset when unlocking the bootloader? Unless there is an exploit to root without unlocking bootloader, a nandroid wouldn't be sufficient...
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Unlock = Flush
With ADB you can now do a nandroid backup though.
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tahlsr said:
Thanks for the response. I'm happy to root, I just thought it was a 'destructive' root. Is there a way to root without destroying my apps / data? (I have had two Epic Samsung phones for Sprint so I'm pretty familiar with rooting, roms etc..)
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Well, yes you can root without losing your data, but like mat said, unlocking the boot loader wips your data,and you need to do that before you root.
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so I can do a nandroid backup without unlocking and rooting first?
Then I can unlock and root the 16GB when I get it and do a nandroid restore on it?
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so I can do a nandroid backup without unlocking and rooting first?
Then I can unlock and root the 16GB when I get it and do a nandroid restore on it?
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I don't.think you can.. all the adb guides I've seen you need to enable super user, so it looks like the only way to take a backup/retrieve a /system.img or data.img is to have superuser/custom recovery installed...
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I guess I have learned a lesson from this. Root every device day 1 if possible even if you aren't going to do a custom recovery or rom yet. ha.
That's what I learnt from my one x, I waited a week to see if there were any faults with it... Set it up how I wanted then OEM unlock and didn't know it factory resets, so didn't know I would have to start again...
Could something like voodoo ota root keep help? If someone was to upload the specific "root file"... Not sure how it works myself...
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adb backup -apk -shared -all
found on this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351 - could be worth a shot...!
mattmanwrx said:
That's what I learnt from my one x, I waited a week to see if there were any faults with it... Set it up how I wanted then OEM unlock and didn't know it factory resets, so didn't know I would have to start again...
Could something like voodoo ota root keep help? If someone was to upload the specific "root file"... Not sure how it works myself...
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adb backup -all
found on this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351 - could be worth a shot...!
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Thanks, will give it a shot.
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Thanks, will give it a shot.
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Just so that you know, I changed it... I would read through that thread first, as it is very descriptive!!
Might need this SDK-platform tools too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895 - taken from the last post on that thread, but modified as he actually copied the link with the ... in.
Non-Root Backup...
One of the tool kits (Wugs) I think has this in it. You can also read up on it at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
krelvinaz said:
Non-Root Backup...
One of the tool kits (Wugs) I think has this in it. You can also read up on it at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Thanks thats what I linked to.. I prefer to get my hands dirty and do it all myself with command line typing, and see what it is doing, but there is the backup and restore in Wug's thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Download and use appbak, upload it to your dropbox.
Load it on the new tab, download the file, and restore apps.
You will need to setup everything manually.
Guys thanks for all your help. It sounds like I'll at least be able to backup user installed apps and data which I guess will suffice. I've learned my lesson. ha.
This is be the first time for me to use a high end smartphone.
May I know what are the things I should do with my new baby?
Things like Dos and Donts before anything bad happen. A list of must have useful apps and description will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
PS. I heard Titanium backup is best to keep your phone safe. Any comments?
Nexusaint said:
This is be the first time for me to use a high end smartphone.
May I know what are the things I should do with my new baby?
Things like Dos and Donts before anything bad happen. A list of must have useful apps and description will be much appreciated.
Thanks!
PS. I heard Titanium backup is best to keep your phone safe. Any comments?
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Men titanium its a backup program,wich kind of safe are you saying?
To falls a good case,and to bad flash and things like that i recommend a lot of reading before flashing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
Do NOT FLASH any Nexus 7 kernel into your Nexus 4. One fella here already bricked a NEXUS device (Nexus device are very difficult to brick to how open they are).
Other than that, do whatever you want with the phone. It's an Android, and it's a Nexus.
zevim2005 said:
Men titanium its a backup program,wich kind of safe are you saying?
To falls a good case,and to bad flash and things like that i recommend a lot of reading before flashing!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
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PoisonWolf said:
Do NOT FLASH any Nexus 7 kernel into your Nexus 4. One fella here already bricked a NEXUS device (Nexus device are very difficult to brick to how open they are).
Other than that, do whatever you want with the phone. It's an Android, and it's a Nexus.
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Hi, zevim and poisionwolf,
Safe as in in case corrupt or lost of data, I can restore my phone. Thanks for the links.
I dont really know what to do with thte phone. Is it necessary to root for Nexus 4? Got major improvement for battery life and performance?
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Hi, zevim and poisionwolf,
Safe as in in case corrupt or lost of data, I can restore my phone. Thanks for the links.
I dont really know what to do with thte phone. Is it necessary to root for Nexus 4? Got major improvement for battery life and performance?
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If you're new to the whole android scene....I strongly recommend that you just use the phone as you got it for 2 months FIRST.
While that's going on, read up through the forums, etc.
Just use it as it is first. =)
Id say the first thing you should do is get a case or a back film protector.
Then just read carefully if you want to start flashing. Read read and read again.
First few things to do with your phone
1. Charge it
2. Turn it on
3. Set up
4. Download apps you might need from play store (this will change over time )
5. Its a phone ffs use it as it is for few weeks. See what you like and what you don't. If you don't like something check if there is an app FIRST that will solve your problem . If you can't find an app think if its worth messing with the phone for one single tweak, unless you have found few things that bug you .
Stock android is nearly perfect and can do most/all of the things for normal user. Even customisation doesn't require root in most cases
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Unlock the bootloader before you do anything on the phone. Unlocking it wipes all data, so best to do it when there's nothing on there anyway. Then it leaves you open to easily root in the future.
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Buy a case. No need for a screen protector.
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Don't use a toolkit.
steviewevie said:
Unlock the bootloader before you do anything on the phone. Unlocking it wipes all data, so best to do it when there's nothing on there anyway. Then it leaves you open to easily root in the future.
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions.
I read a bit about the bootloader. Unlocking it so that I can use fastboot is it? What are the specific benefits?
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Don't use a toolkit.
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why? I checked several topics and the easy way to root is using toolkit afaik.
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why? I checked several topics and the easy way to root is using toolkit afaik.
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Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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Listen to this guy.
estallings15 said:
Listen to this guy.
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im with you
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Because you don't learn anything. If something goes wrong you'll have no idea how to fix it. If you want more info, check my signature.
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thanks sensei. will heed ur advice.
Total noob and you are telling him to root ?
When he ****s up something you will tell him off for not reading ....
He doesn't even know what fastboot is ....
To OP
Do not root do not mod or anything that might mess up your phone.
Use it as is in that time read read read .
When you learn/know what fast boot ,adb, boot loader and other stuff is than come back
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zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit.
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So how do you root the phone to flash custom ROMs?
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MattSkeet said:
Total noob and you are telling him to root ?
When he ****s up something you will tell him off for not reading ....
He doesn't even know what fastboot is ....
To OP
Do not root do not mod or anything that might mess up your phone.
Use it as is in that time read read read .
When you learn/know what fast boot ,adb, boot loader and other stuff is than come back
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Chill out, you've got a point but there's no need for the language..
Crisisx1 said:
So how do you root the phone to flash custom ROMs?
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Easiest way I find it to either flash a custom recovery, or just boot from one and flash superSU.zip.
Title says it all. About to buy a ps3 controller and need root. Just want root for that and ad away.
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tu3218 said:
Title says it all. About to buy a ps3 controller and need root. Just want root for that and ad away.
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Sorry but that's not possible. You will need an unlocked bootloader to root.
But it's really easy and with an app like carbon you should be able to back up your stuff before you unlock the bootloader (wich will wipe your nexus)
pixelsfarm said:
Sorry but that's not possible. You will need an unlocked bootloader to root.
But it's really easy and with an app like carbon you should be able to back up your stuff before you unlock the bootloader (wich will wipe your nexus)
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okay thanks. Wasn't really sure. I'll probably just use nexus root toolkit.
tu3218 said:
okay thanks. Wasn't really sure. I'll probably just use nexus root toolkit.
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No problem. Yeah sure thing, only mentioned carbon if you wanted to backup your apps before unlocking
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No problem. Yeah sure thing, only mentioned carbon if you wanted to backup your apps before unlocking
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Yeah I'll have a look into it. I don't have too much though so not too concerned. More concerned about finding a way to smooth my nexus back out. Possibly reverting back to previous version. Not sure yet.
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Yeah I'll have a look into it. I don't have too much though so not too concerned. More concerned about finding a way to smooth my nexus back out. Possibly reverting back to previous version. Not sure yet.
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Well there's not much you can do right now. But make sure you do a nandroid backup after you unlock your bootloader. You could always revert to that and lock the bootloader again if you want to. If you want it to be super easy look into wug's toolkit
I am a complete noob to rooting. I got my 16GB Wifi-Only Nexus 7 at X-Mas, and didnt know you could root things until a few weeks ago. It is my first android device. Can anybody give me a step by step guide to rooting my nexus? I don't know anything, although I've seen these words (rom, flash, fastboot, kernel) thrown around, and I have a general sense of what a rom and a kernel is. I've looked at the advantages of rooting and decided I want to do it, can anybody help? I already have a bunch of stuff on my tablet btw, like a few pictures, some music, a few videos, and a whole bunch of apps also. OH and also, I just got 4.2.2, as I've seen other post's here about trouble with that, or something...
U have to Unlock boot loader first ,it will wipe all ur data then root it
U can easily unlock and root using wugstool kit ..search development thread
There are tons of advantages of rooting
Kernels,custom Roms,use apps that require root etc
Go ahead and root ur device
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To backup your app data before unlocking I would recommend Carbon Backup. It can backup app data without root (using adb backup). The app is available in the playstore
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There is loads of info here on xda so I would start reading and learning before attempting it. The reason this is suggested so often is because what will happen if you as a total noob do something wrong, miss a step, create a black hole etc etc. You are now still a total noob except now you either have a tablet that wont work/you cant use or a black hole sucking you in to where ever black holes suck people to. You don't want to be relying on someone typing up a step by step get out a black hole of impending doom guide as you are sucked into it now do you.
The point being, learn from the excellent resources placed here. If you want to learn,teach yourself with the help of those resources. The step by step guides are out there, but learn the terminology also.
I've seen posts that say its better to root and unlock the bootlader manually rather than use wugs kit. It is this true?
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Irule88 said:
I've seen posts that say its better to root and unlock the bootlader manually rather than use wugs kit. It is this true?
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YES!
Irule88 said:
I've seen posts that say its better to root and unlock the bootlader manually rather than use wugs kit. It is this true?
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That is correct
What are the advantages of doing that? Another question, since I'm pretty sure wugs kit backups the tablet for you, does it backup everything? Pictures,songs,app data, videos?
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It is correct that manually unlocking bootloader by using adb fastboot is easy, I will tell you how to unlock boot loader and root
First of all backup your data
it is simple you copy all the data to your PC and you can do a backup of your apk's by sending them to a Bluetooth device by the help of a app ( Bluetooth file transfer) , you unlock the boot loader and send all apks back either by Bluetooth or by using stick mount when you are rooted , and restore all data,
For rooting I will give you a link to my post for rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38195329
I was also a total beginner in rooting but theses steps are very easy , they look very big but are easy to follow
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