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Hey!
I have a SGH-i337m and i'm wondering if i will still be able to root my phone after receiving and downloading the new update (one with the Apps To Sd Card) ? I'm used to Apple jailbraking where once the update is installed , you must wait for another jailbreak to be exploited. Is this true with Android as well?
Thanks in Advance :laugh:
from what I have read, you do loose root when you update but you can turn right around and root again after updating
Both of you need to do much more research.
1. If you have root on MDL now, you should be able to use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper to retain root after upgrading, if you meet all the criteria and follow all the directions in the thread with the solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360494
2. There is no way to be rooted after upgrading to MF3 other than the above method.
joeybear23 said:
Both of you need to do much more research.
1. If you have root on MDL now, you should be able to use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper to retain root after upgrading, if you meet all the criteria and follow all the directions in the thread with the solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360494
2. There is no way to be rooted after upgrading to MF3 other than the above method.
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Darn it! So now that i'm updated to MF3, i cannot root?!
the0nly0ne- said:
Darn it! So now that i'm updated to MF3, i cannot root?!
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You got it. Hopefully some one smarter than I will find a way around it.
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jd1639 said:
You got it. Hopefully some one smarter than I will find a way around it.
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Hopefully... I updated for the Apps To SD Card, but realized it doesn't move app data... Is there anyway without root?
the0nly0ne- said:
Darn it! So now that i'm updated to MF3, i cannot root?!
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Sorry.. but be comforted that we have an awesome group of Devs here. If they can't crack it nobody can.
Hopefully... They'll find a way around it... Big mistake to update.
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I updated via KIES and re-rooted with CF Autoroot. On MG1 version, rooted
joeybear23 said:
Sorry.. but be comforted that we have an awesome group of Devs here. If they can't crack it nobody can.
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joeybear23 said:
Both of you need to do much more research.
1. If you have root on MDL now, you should be able to use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper to retain root after upgrading, if you meet all the criteria and follow all the directions in the thread with the solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360494
2. There is no way to be rooted after upgrading to MF3 other than the above method.
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Mught want to follow your on advice these are not att users with a locked bootloader...these are canadian users with i337m, im pretty sure they still have root
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mg2195 said:
Mught want to follow your on advice these are not att users with a locked bootloader...these are canadian users with i337m, im pretty sure they still have root
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Dang Canadians... they're everywhere.
Sorry, didn't catch that this was for the "America's Hat" version.
joeybear23 said:
Dang Canadians... they're everywhere.
Sorry, didn't catch that this was for the "America's Hat" version.
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Lol ikr...kinda wish the sgs4 forums were a little better organized because the att sgs4 is a mess with both canadian and active users posting around here...I see people getting mixed up left and right...especially for new users who dont know what to do and are locking in the wrong area because they do or dont have an att variant
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Is there any word on whether or not the bootloader is encrypted? If so does anyone have any idea on what the chances of it being unlocked is, as this is the only thing stopping me from buying this phone.
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I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm ready for the complete package so I can start flashing
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bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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soapinmouth said:
I'm unfamiliar with loki, what is that?
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Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...
Is there a way to check if the bootloader is locked? I'm getting a T-mobile version and am curious if they have it locked as well.
bri315317 said:
I suspect we will end up with loki. At least i hope so.
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Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Basically it is an exploit to bypass the bootloader to flash roms and kernels. DJRBLISS found it for the S4 and it is working with the G pro. Read more about it here
Other options would be Hash's safety strap or if they can figure out flash gordon for roms. But I still hope for a full unlock sometime...
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You mean WAS working with the S4...
Samsung changed the method 100% and no longer works with ANY Samsung device that is up to date.
Sorry guys, not trying to be a downer... I really want this phone... Very angry with the games carriers play.
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Loki is old. Most manufactures stopped using as soon as Dan Bliss posted how he exploited it.
I am fairly confident this is not going to be Loki. I hope I am wrong but...
Its easy to test if you are rooted.
Pull a system dump, mod the boot.img (Decompile it, maybe just put a simple line in the default.prop then recompile), then run it through loki. After loki just DD it back in place.
If you phone boots then its loki! And I run to AT&T to buy one no questions asked...
If your phone doesnt boot... you bricked it but did so for a noble cause! And for that I would salute you!
All of the above is true and accurate... But with a grain of angry sarcasm... Im pretty sure this is not going to be Loki. If so it would have recovery and ROMS by now.
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I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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djkinetic said:
I think it's aboot.img that gets modded for Loki on this phone.
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No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
scrosler said:
No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recomend anyone trying to do...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Ah ic
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scrosler said:
No, thats not correct.
When the system boots, it looks at aboot and verifies its signed. Then from there, it verifies that boot.img is signed, then on...
aboot is just first in the chain, and if hacked appropriately, would eliminate the need for any and all loki methods...
However, hacking the aboot is not something I recommend anyone trying to do... Unless of course they have done it before...
Didint you just brick your phone because of a hack attempt at aboot?
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Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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djkinetic said:
Ah ic
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Trust me man, I played this game on Samsung... Then quit it and went back to HTC.
With Samsung they dropped the loki method of kernels. So now, they have yet to have an unlocked bootloader...
I can only SUSPECT this phone is using the same method the Samsungs are now using...
Otherwise we would have lokied the ***** and we would all be crack flashing :highfive: :angel:
djkinetic said:
Yup the devs on irc have me testing various aboots
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
scrosler said:
Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.
DeaconBoogie said:
Yeah... swapping for an HTC One is looking better and better as time goes on. I know it's only been a few days since launch, FYI.
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Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:
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Sad isnt it?
I will only be buying international phones going forward.
No more carrier subsidies for me :good:
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My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...
DeaconBoogie said:
My problem is that VZW is the only LTE carrier in my area that doesn't completely suck. Their coverage is just too good...
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Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air
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Yeah, they are going one route to unlock... Which would be the most optimal, yet most risky...
Although on other Samsung devices they closed this loop hold...
Unless someone has an aboot that has been leaked by LG for the device that does not have the checks involved this may prove as impossible as it does for the Samsung devices..
I hope I am wrong...
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Yea hope so too, but its a shame that its locked down, the device itself is awesome, Sadly ill prolly get a nexus 5 for my crack flash addiction lol
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Yeah, AT&T Finally got LTE turned on a couple weeks ago.
I said, If I have to I will go back to Sprint 2G to have an unlocked phone.
And if you buy Int phones you cant run them on Verizon.
THEY rule they air
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Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?
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Think we'll have a definitive answer in a week as to the prospects of unlocking?
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Once again... On pure speculation...
Impossible to know!
I just know the S4 has been re-locked for a couple months and no one has made any posted progress. I am "assuming" this phone uses the same method as Samsung. LG has always tended to play "follow Samsung."
So with that said... I would be watching the S4 forums for an answer...
With an update to kitkat happening in the near future I started to think that root may not be so easy. Our bootloader being locked down don't help matters. Right now Kingo is giving users problems and the only other option being vroot.
But what if neither of these work with kitkat?
I will not take an update until I confirm root is possible.
If there's any devs out there that can unlock this bad boy please don't give up.
So what's everyone else think?
I think that in the future people who want root will need to buy a developer's edition.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
Frank Westlake said:
I think that in the future people who want root will need to buy a developer's edition.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
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True but the unfortunate thing is Verizon and or Samsung don't make enough available.
Would be nice if they started to manufacture more dev units in the future.
Or Verizon can just unlock the bootloaders.
Harleydroid said:
True but the unfortunate thing is Verizon and or Samsung don't make enough available.
Would be nice if they started to manufacture more dev units in the future.
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I'm guessing that they will make more. There will, and may now be, some significant legal difference between the two. A lot of people want rooted phones so when bootloaders are no longer exploitable they will come up with a scheme to exploit those root-wanters.
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
I heard a while ago that kitkat could break some root apps. I wonder if anyone is experiencing that?
I haven't heard anyone say anything about it so hopefully that's not a factor anymore.
Harleydroid said:
I heard a while ago that kitkat could break some root apps. I wonder if anyone is experiencing that?
I haven't heard anyone say anything about it so hopefully that's not a factor anymore.
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Look up Chainfire on Google+ he has a write up on root breakage with KitKat in his community. Lots of good stuff there.
Misterxtc said:
Look up Chainfire on Google+ he has a write up on root breakage with KitKat in his community. Lots of good stuff there.
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Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his G+
not worth update
Harleydroid said:
Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his G+
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i have KK on another phone(razr maxx) and no root problems. the difference btw jb and kk isn't worth any potential problems. kk is such a minor update i won't update the note3 until a root is out there and tested
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Yeah that's the source I heard it from a while back. I will have to check out his
Edut
Nermind i found him.
☛HYPER?DRIVE☚
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Looks like kitkat could be soon. Probably still a month or more out but thought I'd share this.
http://www.elementalxdesigns.com/eclipse/showthread.php?t=8759
Samsung lays out which devices will get Android 4.4.2 KitKat
Anybody hear any news on kitkat for us Verizon guys?
I see Tmo guys have been able to root 4.4.2 with Chainfires CF Autoroot tool but it trips knox.
Wonder how this is going to be for us?
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipse Note 3??
Kingo might work.
XzxBATTxzX said:
Kingo might work.
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Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??
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Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??
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Thought we were talking about Verizon?
XzxBATTxzX said:
Thought we were talking about Verizon?
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Lol yes we are I was just saying that kingo didn't work for them but was before kitkat.
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Everything I've read about how Kitkat screws up access to SD card makes me want to have no part of it. When I hear it is coming to vzw I plan to root and try to figure out how to stay stock mje and block updates. The only thing I really want fixed is the compass and since Nobody admits it's a problem I don't expect any update to fix it.
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recDNA said:
Everything I've read about how Kitkat screws up access to SD card makes me want to have no part of it. When I hear it is coming to vzw I plan to root and try to figure out how to stay stock mje and block updates. The only thing I really want fixed is the compass and since Nobody admits it's a problem I don't expect any update to fix it.
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Yes from what I have read guys are not happy with the kitkat update. Of course thats on the other carriers.
I guess we will just have to wait and see
?Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3?
,Kitkat is Kitkat. No way we'll have free access to our sd cards
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Kingo doesn't work for the Tmo guys.
But it's possible they might update it to work in the future I guess.
??Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3??
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Tmobile guys don't need kingo to root since they have an unlocked bootloader. If it wasn't for t-mobile's poor network compared to verizon I'd switch in a heat beat.
sulla65 said:
Tmobile guys don't need kingo to root since they have an unlocked bootloader. If it wasn't for t-mobile's poor network compared to verizon I'd switch in a heat beat.
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They were having trouble rooting the kitkat build on tmo. My friend just picked up a tmo note 3 and the only way for him to root was to use chainfires CF autoroot but it trips knox. Which he didn't care.
?Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3?
I just received my phone yesterday, and updated to 4.4.4 in ignorance. I realized Towelroot doesn't work on 4.4.4.
Without root, I feel the restrictions of the device - there are many things I cannot do. (I owned a Galaxy S2 prior to this - I still like it - didn't realize how many things I took for granted which can only be done after root!)
How can I get the Verizon Note 3 rooted?
I was wondering if Towelroot would work on 4.4.4. So you have tried and can verify that it doesn't work???
BParkerson said:
I was wondering if Towelroot would work on 4.4.4. So you have tried and can verify that it doesn't work???
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Yes - I have tried. And I can confirm it does not work.
hirak99 said:
I just received my phone yesterday, and updated to 4.4.4 in ignorance. I realized Towelroot doesn't work on 4.4.4.
Without root, I feel the restrictions of the device - there are many things I cannot do. (I owned a Galaxy S2 prior to this - I still like it - didn't realize how many things I took for granted which can only be done after root!)
How can I get the Verizon Note 3 rooted?
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As of right now....there is nothing you can do root it.
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There is no root method as of now and I believe most of the devs that worked on getting root for updates and devs that worked on safestrap no longer support this device. So unless some of the new devs for this device can figure it out you may be SOL.
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Okay. Is there any way to downgrade it? What if I do a factory reset?
hirak99 said:
Okay. Is there any way to downgrade it? What if I do a factory reset?
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No way to downgrade without root. I dont know how you obtained the phone, but if thru regular channels you can try sending it back and saying it was messed up out the box and request a new one. And make sure not to update that one if you do get it.
Just did exactly that - then I saw your response - imagine my surprise! Thanks.
Told them it's broken I can't root it. They will send me a replacement. Hopefully it will not come with 4.4.4 pre-installed.
You told your carrier the phones broke because you can't root it? ??
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Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
hirak99 said:
Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
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I love it!!!
Get a warranty replacement before verizon gets tnem all updated
hirak99 said:
Yeah... to me if I can't root it, it's broken.
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Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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donc113 said:
Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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lmaoo!
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Who is swapping the phone? I have a difficult time believing that either Verizon or Samsung would swap it because you can't root it.
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I told him what's the issue. He said he understands and took the phone inside, and confirmed that he couldn't solve it, then ordered a replacement. The store guys are good - you just need to ask nicely and explain what is the problem and why it is important.
My old phone had some hardware issues and because it was still under warranty, Verizon replaced it. However, it has lollipop, not kitkat. How do I root this beast?
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My old phone had some hardware issues and because it was still under warranty, Verizon replaced it. However, it has lollipop, not kitkat. How do I root this beast?
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It depends on the version of
lollipop your on
If you are on any version after BOD5 pretty sure you will not be able to root or downgrade to kit Kat to gain root
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It depends on the version of
lollipop your on
If you are on any version after BOD5 pretty sure you will not be able to root or downgrade to kit Kat to gain root
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How do I determine if I'm on BOD5 or greater?
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How do I determine if I'm on BOD5 or greater?
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No offense man, if you can't figure that out, you shouldn't try to root your phone. It'll go poorly then you'll have 64844890 more questions. Just read up on the stickies...
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No offense man, if you can't figure that out, you shouldn't try to root your phone. It'll go poorly then you'll have 64844890 more questions. Just read up on the stickies...
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Look bubba, I rooted my phone a year ago when I got it (and the previous 3 phones I owned) and that's the last time I did it. I don't do this every day so I don't know where every little "thing" is or how to do it in my sleep.
Thanks for not being any help...
Go to About Phone and look at the build number. The last 4 character is what you're looking for.
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Look bubba, I rooted my phone a year ago when I got it (and the previous 3 phones I owned) and that's the last time I did it. I don't do this every day so I don't know where every little "thing" is or how to do it in my sleep.
Thanks for not being any help...
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Yeah it's been the same method to find your build for every android phone since ever. But you can't find it all of a sudden, after rooting 3 other phones. OK good luck with all of that then.
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Yeah it's been the same method to find your build for every android phone since ever. But you can't find it all of a sudden, after rooting 3 other phones. OK good luck with all of that then.
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In the time it took you to write these emails, you could have just told me. But you would rather be an asshole. That's fine, the world is full of 'em.
brucejg said:
In the time it took you to write these emails, you could have just told me. But you would rather be an asshole. That's fine, the world is full of 'em.
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Sorry
brucejg said:
How do I determine if I'm on BOD5 or greater?
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Ok check your build number in about phone and if you have BOE1 or BOG5 then you are out of luck. No root available for them, anything else is root-able.
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Ok check your build number in about phone and if you have BOE1 or BOG5 then you are out of luck. No root available for them, anything else is root-able.
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Finally got to checking this (busy week) and I see that I have BOG5. So, is this a temporary thing as in it hasn't been cracked yet, or is this more along the lines of the Galaxy Note and can't be cracked?
Thanks for your help and thanks to berfles too.
brucejg said:
Finally got to checking this (busy week) and I see that I have BOG5. So, is this a temporary thing as in it hasn't been cracked yet, or is this more along the lines of the Galaxy Note and can't be cracked?
Thanks for your help and thanks to berfles too.
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Currenty it can't be cracked how ever, there is light at the end of the tunnel:
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
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Currenty it can't be cracked how ever, there is light at the end of the tunnel:
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
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Thanks again; I'll be checking back regularly and hopefully we'll get there soon.
is it not possible to odin and downgrade OG5 to NCG?
jaggyjagz said:
is it not possible to odin and downgrade OG5 to NCG?
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Nope, sorry, OE1 and OG5 you can't downgrade because of the locked bootloader. But there is a good news that they may found away to unlock bootloader on Verizon G5, we just have to wait and see if they will in fact release the exploit.
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Currenty it can't be cracked how ever, there is light at the end of the tunnel:
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
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Unfortunately it doesn't look like its coming anytime soon.
Just in case you don't know yet. You can now root the vz s5 on all versions
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