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Evo's are Backordered...

So I just got Sprint to put in for a new (well, or refurbed) EVO for me, and unfortunately they are back ordered. The guy I talked to seemed to have no clue how long it will be before they receive my replacement. Are any of you guys in the same boat and does anyone have any info on how long it might be? This Samsung Rant isn't really the phone I'd like to be using haha. Thanks.

Everytime they told me refurbs were backordered, I still got them within 3 days. I can pretty much guarantee you it wont be more than 2 weeks, at the very most.

That would be awesome if it is only three days, maybe i'll have it by wednesday or so. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I have reason to be optimistic!

They said that to me that a few weeks ago and told me since we have no refurbs we have to give you a new one. This was the sales leader in the store so I guess if you know the rules you may be able to get a new one if you give them a nudge.

looks like sprint is having a lot of problems with the quality of the htc evo, is a nice phone but the quality is bad. Is made for Sprint, that is why.

No, they are on back order because Sprint was covering physical damage. People were destroying their phones.
The policy changed yesterday, so recon stock should start to level out again.

The rep told me the same thing. A lot of people have been calling in about dust under the screen on the top left recently. Apparently its an issue only seen later on in the life of the device. HTC is really disappointing me.

dmora01 said:
looks like sprint is having a lot of problems with the quality of the htc evo, is a nice phone but the quality is bad. Is made for Sprint, that is why.
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I'll take the bait... I think the Evo is on par or if not better quality than any other similar device. Truth is, whatever went wrong with my Evo was probably my own fault.

took me 5 days to get my replacement

thanamesjames said:
I'll take the bait... I think the Evo is on par or if not better quality than any other similar device. Truth is, whatever went wrong with my Evo was probably my own fault.
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HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.

I just added my wife to my account today and ordered an evo... no problems here
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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Got to love that anecdotal evidence. My HTC has been great, therefore it is the best phone on the market.
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I had that dust under the left top corner of the screen a couple months ago and sprint replaced the glass. Then I bricked my phone like an idiot and was to impatient to recover it so I filed an insurance claim and they overnighted me one. Brand new. Now I have 2 but not sure what to do with the old one.
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality. Though it is a bit interesting, the Nexus One didn't seem to have a whole lot of build quality issues.
My EVOs build quality is junk. My previous phone was a Hero, that was worse!
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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maybe you need to make that switch to verIzon then... ive owned 3 htc phones (tilt, touch pro and evo) and never had problems with build quality or hardware issues. i use all my phones for work and i have dropped, stepped on, sat on, used in the rain and countless other acts of neglect and every time picked the phone up and made a phone call with it

First, to the OP, I've been told by store personnel, that it is STORE POLICY that they *HAVE* to give you a brand new one if refurbs are backordered and they have new ones in stock at the store. Don't let them weasel out on you, and you get left holding a backordered, smelly ol' refurb. And yes, I've had refurbs that STUNK to high heaven of perfume.
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Every HTC device I've owned has failed from QC issues, usually multiple times.
My 6700 and 6800 both succumbed to key failures on the keyboard. I tried the usual fixes (contact cleaner, vigorously "massaging" the keys), but nothing worked and a keyboard where 1/3 of the keys are dead is useless. When I got my Touch Pro, brand new in the box, two of the keys cracked off onto my lap while he was activating it - the Best Buy sales person was horrified and got me a new one. A few months later, the external Back/End button kept creeping higher and higher until it fell off. The replacement would reboot every few minutes, so that one went back too. Then my brand new Hero had an unresponsive Menu button, didn't notice that until I got home though. Swapped it out for a new one, the new one had dust pouring in the bottom left corner (if I remember correctly) after about a month, then the vibrator stopped working. Had to RMA that one, the replacement was shipped to my door, and the trackball was GONE - not even in the box, just simply gone! The replacement for that had a squishy "OK" (trackball press) button, but I just lived with it. My original Evo had cracks in the body (power button, and near the volume buttons), the screen was separating to the point where it'd get caught in my pocket, the microUSB port was flaky and required me to plug it in, rest it just right on my desk, then lay something on the connector to keep downward weight on it. The replacement had huge spots on the display, and eventually the touchscreen completely failed on that one.
I could go on and on, but I'm too tired right now. People can think whatever they want, accuse me of exaggerating or lying, but I'll just laugh - hysterically laugh - at the thought of anyone saying HTC has anything but mediocre quality.
I should also point out I've never dropped a device in my life - I'm fastidious, almost to an Adrian Monk-like degree, and pamper my devices. There was NO reason for them to fail the way they did, other than poor QC on HTC's part.
I'd still buy an HTC device though because of the hacker friendliness, but anyone who thinks they're a particularly high quality company is crazy.

admorris said:
Got to love that anecdotal evidence. My HTC has been great, therefore it is the best phone on the market.
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DJ_Bizarro said:
maybe you need to make that switch to verIzon then... ive owned 3 htc phones (tilt, touch pro and evo) and never had problems with build quality or hardware issues. i use all my phones for work and i have dropped, stepped on, sat on, used in the rain and countless other acts of neglect and every time picked the phone up and made a phone call with it
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The widgets I use make Android too practical to switch from.
There is no way you can say with a straight face that the EVO has a higher build quality than the iPhone.
'Never had any problems' seems to be incredibly highly subjective on the forums.

dreamliner330 said:
The widgets I use make Android too practical to switch from.
There is no way you can say with a straight face that the EVO has a higher build quality than the iPhone.
'Never had any problems' seems to be incredibly highly subjective on the forums.
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so go buy the iphone and stop crying about your build quality

I have owned two HTC phones. My Hero was used for a year, no hardware issues what-so-ever (sold it in perfect condition for almost what I paid for it). My wife and I got Evo's at Christmas. Her iphone 3g had three returns because of hardware failures. The Evo's on the other hand have been great and neither of use use a protective case. I am fairly particular and take good care of my gadgets.
F*** apple and their stupid I in front of words.

My Apache and Mogul and tp2 were all good solid phones. Whoever is nom nom noming apples balls so hard on build quality, remember that the iPhone are a sealed deal, non removable battery. The only thing that comes close is the Eco and Droid x. Eitherway there is no reason a company couldn't make a non serviceable Android loaded phone with identical build quality. Fact OS only Apple is retarded / brilliant enough to seal a phones components.
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dreamliner330 said:
HTC's phones have horrible build quality.
The iPhone has the best hardware on the market. It is way way above anything else out there.
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yeah... except when you hold it wrong!
nice attempt at trolling.

Build Quality

HI all
I was wandering how is the build quality in this phone?
I would love to give it to my girlfriend but was just wandering after hearing/reading some negative comments about galaxy s 1 build.
Thank you in advance for any comments, or links to articles or such.
Regards
Kirior

I think it's awesome. Even it's plastic, it's really assertive and the back cover stays so tight. Just the opening is a bit tricky... But you only need to do this once, luckily. If you need to change sim-cards or memory cards daily, then I don't recommend this phone.

Samsung isn't known as "Samsuck" for no reason. Buy her an HTC phone. I would steer clear of any Samsung phones.
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stop trolling, it's pretty good even though its plastic it feels solid

Its fine really, solid despite the choice of materials, feels a lot better in the hand than the original.
Link to more detailed thoughts:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-real-user-reviewpart-one/

As the posts above is saying; Nothing to put on the build quality
/CK

PureH2O said:
Samsung isn't known as "Samsuck" for no reason. Buy her an HTC phone. I would steer clear of any Samsung phones.
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God what a ****-nuckle..
Sent from the best phone in the world...

I think a light phone is better. Much less likely to break when dropped because over the same distance there will be much less kinetic energy to dissipate on impact.
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Not to be a fanboy, but you do want your phone made of lead or what?

PureH2O said:
Samsung isn't known as "Samsuck" for no reason. Buy her an HTC phone. I would steer clear of any Samsung phones.
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To try and add some value to an otherwise useless post, I haven't owned a Samsung phone since the CDMA i730 Windows phone. It was a funky phone without a lot of joy and some really questionable design choices. From there I had a succession of HTC phones spanning six years. They were all solid, ran well, and gave me little to complain about. I got an LG phone which I kept for a whopping three weeks before realizing it was a pile of rubbish. So, with an unbiased view, I chose the Samsuck GS2 and couldn't be happier. Back on topic, the build quality is great. Fit, finish, style, feel are all what you'd expect from a high-end device. Alas, because it's shiny parts are exposed front and back, all that beauty has to be hidden by a case which makes it look pedestrian. I just got my Case-Mate tough case today and the phone now looks mummified. Oh well, at least it's protected.

I really dont understand the questions about build quality the sgs or sgs2. My orignal sgs(vibrant) was heavy duty. Yes its light and yes its made out of plastic. But ive dropped my vibrant from various heights and the battery cover never popped off, no marks on screen or anything. Both phones, specially the sgs2 feel like a lighter, thinner HD2. Niether feels flimsy, cheap, breakable.
One of the Hd2s ive owned fell from bathroom sink to tile floor, and shattered after a 3 -4foot drop.
Build Quality is important to me as I work with dogs(90%) and other various animals. Besides the psycho owners, I deal with psycho 200pound dogs on a daily basis. I get bumped, biten, jumped on, rubbed, attacked etc all day, everyday. Not a single scratch, scrap, dent on the sgs2 and thats with no protection for 3 weeks.
Now the only bad quality choice samsung and other manufactors use is the damn cheap silver/chrome/aluminum bezel around the phones. Since I dont use cases consistently im prone to scratch the bezel by the end of ownership.
Another plus is the couple cases I do have dont add extra bulk like other phones. Im waiting on quality extended batteries to come.

HI guys
Thx for all replies, all in all i have bought SGS2 for her. She is in heavens now i guess that's all that matters and she does take care of the phones so i know i will not land on the floor or such just wanted to make sure.
thanks again and for me the thread is closed.
Kirior

I find the build quality of the S2 pretty decent although I had my doubts when I just got the phone. After using it for a couple of weeks I think the build quality is fine and I'm sure this phone will last a long time.
However, today I had the HTC Sensation in my hands for the first time and I must confess that the build quality of the Sensaion is clearly better.

The build quality is much better than i expected. Yes, it is plastic, but feels pretty solid, no creaking or flex. I have an SE Arc also, similar thickness, but would say that the gs2 is easily the more high quality build of the two.
Regarding the battery cover, it is thin and flimsy, but i cant imagine a new one costing much if you needed one. What bothers me more is the texture, it feels more slick than a shiny back, but a case might fix that.
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I would LOVE an iPhone 5...if it ran Android

I hate Apple, and I always will. I will never buy from Apple or support it at all...but I really wish there where Android phones that had the same hardware quality as Apple. I love my Atrix, but squeeze it, it creaks. The back is flimsy, the camera lens scratches and its all soo plasticity, and a lot of Android phones are like this. All plastic, creaky, and over all compare to Apples phones, just horribly cheep feeling. I love Android an would never move to Apple, but I still would really love an Android phone that matched iPhone 4/4s or especially iPhone 5 quality. Just don't think it'll ever happen though, sadly.

That's why hardware-wise, Apple will always dominate in that category.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise. Take off your green colored glasses if you disagree.
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This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.

nerfman100 said:
This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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Yeah, not perfect.. just cut with diamonds and lasers n **** xD
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.

Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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That's very true. Nokias are built like tanks. And a lot of iphones owners have their screens cracked.
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Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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The part that cracks is maybe 3$ to replace online. 2 screws at the bottom. People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.

Atrix is actually a very nice compromise between aesthetics and tank phone. Part of the process when I pick a phone is how it looks and feels. A case changes that. Its not about looking cool or showing off. That implies I give a damn what others think.. I digress. Be ninja. Your phone is too important to drop, not to mention too damned expensive, but atrix can take it.
I've seen people holding cracked iPhones too.. usually they're also holding a joint and a skateboard. Or five things in each hand while simultaneously trying to make a call. can't blame that on apple fellas
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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There's a big difference between a completely shattered screen vs a small flake of paint coming off of my phone from a 4 foot drop. I had an iphone 3g that the screen was completely shattered and the back shell cracked from tripping over a rock and my iphone flung. Had the same thing happen with my atrix and just a lil paint came off (and my atrix bounced and hit the side of my house) neither had cases.... moral of the story drunk txting is bad
But yeah anyway, iphones dont have the best track record when it comes to hardware durability and I want to know where you're buying a screen shipped for $3 that's as good of quality as the origional... and to your comment about the iphone 4g, I've had a sales rep sit on his brand new iphone 4gs and it shattered his screen (again no case was on the phone). I've done that several times with my atrix and a nokia with no issues.
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nerfman100 said:
No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.
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This is what I thought until I dropped the phone from chest hight onto a concrete car park floor. Gorilla glass is structurally very tough and flexible but doesn't like impact and will break along micro scratches caused by leaving your phone face down on any gritty surface. I just got a black tpu case that has a nice lip around the screen edges but is otherwise nice and discrete. I can use my lapdock fine as it fits perfectly with the connections after removing the plastic tray and it cost me around £2. I love not having a case but it's so damn hard locating good replacement digitizers for the atrix I would rather play it safe.
As for apple hardware, it does seem pretty good quality, the I phone 4/s had a really nice weight to it and I have no doubt that the new device will feel more solid than most devices on the marked (excluding the lumia devices ) how this relates to their ruggedness I'm not sure (putting a glass back on a phone really is stupid ) still I would love a sapphire crystal over my camera lense! Android manufacturers really do need to up the quality though, a phone goes with you everywhere and needs to be fairly rugged. Although the Atrix is pretty decent I do wish it was more solid.
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You can consider Razr series for the best build quality. Backcase made by kevlar and housing full of metal.

Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/

MewRai95 said:
Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/
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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Since this a topic about iPhone vs Atrix 4G, I would like to have your opinion on the following. Currently I am not flowing with cash, and I have an iPhone 3G - I saw the Atrix 4G 16GB unlocked on ebay for like 228 (I am in Brazil so hence the unlock) So is the Atrix 4G a good phone (better than my 3G?) Can it run ICS or Jellybean thru custom roms off course, and how is it's gaming power?
Thanks

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Well if want Android on iPhone that's the closest you're are ever going to get. Anyway it isn't even that bad, considering the screen is up to retina standards and has pretty good specs such as a Tegra 3. Anyway disregarding the fact that it's a fake iPhone, I bet the build quality is pretty good.
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Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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Me. It honestly depends what your intended use of a phone that is the final decision in this case. If you just want a phone that simply works, an IPhone is better, because its very limited in area to improve. Lots of restrictions, developer-wise.
If being able to improve performance in multiple aspects; Android all the way. What does the IPhone really offer when jailbroken? Tweaked themes? Sure, you can unlock it to be used on other carriers...but who wants just 3G?
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HTC dominates in build quality too. My old Aria was perfect in build quality to me. I have never had a phone that had like problems with the hardware. I have always gotten lucky and gotten a phone that was made well!
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Yeah, Crapple will always dominate in the crapPhone category.
Others are welcome to create their own categories which they do pretty well.
My fem uses her very special HTC Evo 3D. I want to see Crapple capable of creating a kind of similar device. Next century eventually?

Build Quality Concerns

While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I thought HTC has had a pretty good reputation for build quality with the One X being the exception, not the norm for HTC. And that bad pixel on the M7, that's just bad luck that could happen on any phone.
So far, sounds like the build quality on the M8 is really good. I have less concerns about HTC's build quality than I do about some other phone manufactures (I'll avoid the flame war by not mentioning names, haha).

I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.

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I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.
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Had that issue on the m7 as well. A speaker blew (4 out of 5 HTC phones I've owned had blown speakers) so I filed a claim. I think it took 4 or 5 tries before I got an acceptable replacement. It was still darker and yellower than my original tho
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I've had pretty good luck with my HTC phones. I'm still rocking the launch day m7.
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That should be called the trolls thread!
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naouris said:
That should be called the trolls thread!
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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)

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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)
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And everyone knows these types of threads draw out every single device basher which gives a false representation of the actual prevalence of build quality issues.
That said, name just one device that didn't have any.
As for my HTC experience, the One has been a dream... The rest of them all had a lot of issues. If the M8 follows the M7, there won't be any issues. The ONLY complaint I had about my M7 is the camera tint when not in good lighting that came up and got worse the longer I had the phone.
Speakers? Perfect
Gap? None
Display? Perfect
Durability? Incredible.
If you look in my signature, I've had a ton of HTC devices. Among them, there were some really bad ones. The Sensation? Damn thing got so hot that it would reboot if I used the GPS which made it useless for navigating anywhere. MyTouch 4G? Every time I would restart the device, it would lose its internal storage and act like I factory reset it - it was doing that out of the box. PPC-6800? I lost track of the issues between the screen, overheating, freezing, cracked camera - I replaced it through Sprint 5 times before they gave me a Touch Pro in exchange for it. The original Touch? The screen stopped responding. The Hero? The display cracked even though there was no damage to the glass - the whole thing randomly shattered internally one day.
After the Sensation, I vowed never to go HTC again. Then I got the S4 and my roommate got the One. He couldn't get used to the One coming from the S3 so he wanted to trade me, I did it and I never looked back.

If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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kirdroid said:
If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.

EtherealRemnant said:
That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.
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I buy almost all phones and sell my old ones.. So I never cared about build quality since I don't keep phones for long. The point I'm trying to make is every phone will have something, even if they make a perfect phone some user will nitpick some thing.
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PatsFan1286 said:
While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"

And fwiw sometimes these threads cause people to look at their device so closely and see they have the same thing and then it bothers them. Had they never come across a thread like this they probably wouldn't have noticed (the small imperfections not big defects)
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I know this type of thread will always bring out trolls / fanboys of other manufacturers, but that's not my intention.
I don't think I'm being too picky when I shell out 600 bucks for a phone and expect it to be nearly perfect. I understand there are always flaws in any mass produced electronic device, but to me a dead pixel is unacceptable - once you see it, it can't be unseen. My phone has the purple tint issue with the camera, but I don't care about that. Some may say I'm being nitpicky about a pixel, but I could say the same about others who complain about the camera. To each their own I guess.
kirdroid said:
If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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I'm not exactly sure what your point is. Yes, I'm seeing a trend, hence me creating this thread to see if others are experiencing issues with the M8. So I'm expected to just suck it up and deal with it if I'm not happy? I continue to buy HTC as I like the design, non-OLED screen, Sense and the community here on XDA.
I really am just looking for others experience with the build quality of the M8.

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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"
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I'm actually struggling a little with the phone being to big haha. Its pretty cool though. No actual real complaints yet.

I've had a new htc every year for the past 10 or so.
I have not had to return one of them.

The last time I had to bring a HTC phone back was in the touch pro 2 days lol. I guess I'm lucky
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I have a HTC One X and I haven't had any issues with it except for band compatibility. Also, the M8 looks nice but I wonder will the metal on it scratch easily?
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I bought the M8 from Verizon yesterday and I have zero issues. Screen is gorgeous, no yellowing. There are no gap issues like the M7. Screen is flush with the boom sound speakers. The build quality is outstanding. I had three M7s and each one had issues. One with gaps but a flush screen. One with no gaps but the screen was not flush. And one had gaps and the screen was off.
This phone is easily the highest build quality phone I've ever had. And I have been through many phones.
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I really really can speak out of experience, having owned many HTC devices!
HTC Desire - Fantastic phone, no issues, camera lens was very easy to scratch though and after two years the backplate of the phone became loose.
HTC Desire HD - Fantastic phone, no issues there either. I think my only gripe was the AWFUL side cover for the battery and the bottom plastic part of the phone. If I ran my finger over the bottom of the phone there was a difference in levels between the sim-card cover and the body of the phone. No big issue though, and not really a build quality issue either, more of a design flaw.
HTC Mozart - Terrible phone. Lovely design but the phone got dust underneath the screen after having it for just two months. Luckily it was only a temporary phone though. I smashed my Desire HD and picked up a Mozart new in a sale. I got the Sensation three months later.
HTC Sensation & Sensation XE - This phone had a somewhat strange design. The entire back of the phone would come off and it wrapped around the front slightly. After removing the cover two or three times it didn't fit as snugly as it once did and every time you pressed a capacitive button it would result in the phone creaking against the back of the body of the phone. Hard to explain, once again more of a design flaw.
HTC One X - By far the worst HTC phone, but down to design flaws once again. Wi-Fi antenna was stuck to the body of the phone, not the internal of the phone, Tegra 3 chipset would heat up a LOT resulting in the polycarbonate expanding and you being left with no Wi-Fi signal or a very weak one indeed. In terms of other things, such as dead pixels I never experienced this. All in all I had about 6 HTC One Xs in a short space of time due to the Wi-Fi issue, and the Wi-Fi issue was the only problem I had with them. I switched to a GS3 due to this.
HTC One (M7) - I have had about 10 HTC One's in the past year, I got one on release day though and it had the infamous gap issue. This is somewhat a design issue, once again, but could also be a build quality issue as they shouldn't have been let out of QC like that. Due to the complex design of the phone, the edges are prone to sticking out and being "un-even" with the metal housing on the speakers. At the top and bottom of the phones there is often a hairline gap between the polycarbonate and the speaker frame too. On the sides of the phone, the black plastic strips are prone to being uneven, the volume rocker can become loose sometimes. The white polycarbonate was prone to staining and getting dirty, but this isn't really an issue it's to be expected. It's important to note that though annoying, none of these issues rendered the phone unusable. Maybe just unacceptable in some people preferences (mine, I'm a perfectionist and dropping £479 on a phone is a lot)
I will be getting the M8, and I will be an early adopter. I love HTC phones, they are the best regardless.

Why The Bad Press??

I own this Device along with many other Android Devices. The LgG G5 for me is one of the Best Android Phones Ive ever used, simply because LG had the Balls to try something different and Unique!!
I'm sick of reading that LG dropped the ball with this device????? Where?? The 2! cameras are fantastic, the process power of the phone is Hard to beat! The screen is crystal clear, the speaker sounds great!!
My hats off to LG for trying to be unique.. Isnt that what Android is all about?

It's a competition
markdexter said:
I own this Device along with many other Android Devices. The LgG G5 for me is one of the Best Android Phones Ive ever used, simply because LG had the Balls to try something different and Unique!!
I'm sick of reading that LG dropped the ball with this device????? Where?? The 2! cameras are fantastic, the process power of the phone is Hard to beat! The screen is crystal clear, the speaker sounds great!!
My hats off to LG for trying to be unique.. Isnt that what Android is all about?
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I hope that it cools off - but it will continue for some time likely. I have always noticed that the true test of any new phone will be the test of time and that will become apparent only 6 months to a year from now. Right now people want to sell phones and it gets a little ridiculous how hard people want to put down or inflate a given product. It's unfortunate that many of the phone manufacturers are releasing their new product at roughly the same time - but we might all win with competitive pricing. The hyperbole though is intense and over the top. I like my new G5 a lot and the on-line criticism makes me second guess my choice - just like last time, curiously. I will try to ignore the internet hype while I somewhat privately enjoy my new toy in a mature and subdued manner.

It's not like a bad press, but more a "the S7 is better, why would you buy this g5 ****?"
Just look at some threads here in xda, are full of Samsung owners (I don't like the term "fanboy") which want to be said that S7 is better, even if it is not.
I'm italian, and in my country it's the same, all g5 news are full of useless comment like:" it's ugly, anyone who's buy this **** has to be blind! " or" lg has failed, don't buy a lg g5" and you know what? The device will arrive in Italy this Thursday! Lol
Also, look to the first italian review, it's a perfect phone, but with the reviewer stress the battery lasted only till 19, so guess what? 8!
That's all, reviews are quite positive, and the only negative side, apart from the faulty devices, is the battery which is not in par with others 2016 devices.
And still I've not understand this hated against a multinational lol
Just look at the comment below mines

markdexter said:
I own this Device along with many other Android Devices. The LgG G5 for me is one of the Best Android Phones Ive ever used, simply because LG had the Balls to try something different and Unique!!
I'm sick of reading that LG dropped the ball with this device????? Where?? The 2! cameras are fantastic, the process power of the phone is Hard to beat! The screen is crystal clear, the speaker sounds great!!
My hats off to LG for trying to be unique.. Isnt that what Android is all about?
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Not sure if you are seriously asking a question or just want a place to disagree and lavish your new toy with unhealthy amounts of affection...
simply because LG had the Balls to try something different and Unique!!
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Its not "balls" thats the mentality of a 6 year old. They took a risk and failed miserably at setting it up properly. What could have been a cool modular system became a half assed cash grab that was poorly thought out. Theres this mentality that fanboys and girls take on that the thing they love was created for the benefit of mankind somehow... They are a business and did it to make money... Look at the price of these modules! $70 for something that could have been done just fine with software controls with a $10 battery thrown in? $200 for the 360 cam? Who would buy that? The hifi plus isnt even coming to the US but in the UK its 149 eur which is about $169! Based on the reviews its about on par with $40-$50 Dacs, $169 makes it more expensive then dac/amps like the fiio e18 and e17 which are better by far...
I'm sick of reading that LG dropped the ball with this device????? Where??
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How about quality control for starters... I know you want to stick your head in the sand and ignore all the criticism of your precious but there are ****loads of issues with quality. Go watch the youtube videos there is no shortage of issues. How about when they dropped the ball on the hifi plus? Why where all the launch issues not taken care of weeks ago? The hifi plus should have been ready for pre order right along with the phone itself. How about that ridiculous iphone like home setup? WTF where they thinking with that?
When you look at the phone and compare it to the generation its actually in (GS7, HTC 10 whatever moto comes out with) It falls flat on its ass without the modularity concept taking off.
Same processor and ram as the competition.
Camera seems to be on par with the competition not really better.
Inferior screen to the competition.
Smaller battery than the competition.
No qi charging like the competition.
No water resistance like the competition.
QC issues that dont exist with the competition.
LG sacrificed having a larger battery, QI charging and water resistance for the modularity and all we got for those sacrifices was a flipping camera addon that basically nobody wants or needs.
That is dropping the ball. Literally all they had to do was match the speccs of sammy and the rest with a nice aluminum body and it would have been killer. The modularity was half assed. For it to be a success it needed to have many modules that are genuinely useful. Instead it had 2 modules, one that half the world wont even get the other a cam module that literally does nothing that couldnt be done with software.

notinterested said:
Look at the price of these modules! $70 for something that could have been done just fine with software controls with a $10 battery thrown in? $200 for the 360 cam? Who would buy that? The hifi plus isnt even coming to the US but in the UK its 149 eur which is about $169! Based on the reviews its about on par with $40-$50 Dacs, $169 makes it more expensive then dac/amps like the fiio e18 and e17 which are better by far...
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Hahaha sorry but I stop reading when you said that the fiio e18 and e17, two dacs from 3 years ago are better than dac using latest ESSabre chips.
By the way the euro-dollar conversion that you use are incorrect, you must exclude the VAT.

I agree with you both. I have the phone love it. But lg did drop the ball on these modules 20+ modules should have been ready to go at launch
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I love LG phones, But the quality of this thing blows. The seams dont line up & just go look at the thread on finding a tempered glass screen protector. The ****ing screen us soft & curves in multiple places at the top & at the bottom corners so there is no tgsp that works without the corners lifting.
It is horrible, No.. But honestly the fit & finish of the LG k7 (140 dollar POS) leaves this thing in the dust.

bastage said:
I love LG phones, But the quality of this thing blows. The seams dont line up & just go look at the thread on finding a tempered glass screen protector. The ****ing screen us soft & curves in multiple places at the top & at the bottom corners so there is no tgsp that works without the corners lifting.
It is horrible, No.. But honestly the fit & finish of the LG k7 (140 dollar POS) leaves this thing in the dust.
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LG did not manufacture the tempered glass!! This has to be the worst argument ever!
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markdexter said:
LG did not manufacture the tempered glass!! This has to be the worst argument ever!
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No... No it isnt.. LG did the screen with the intention of it being flat & uniform. But it is not. The screens are not even & unintentionally curve in places it is not supposed to (I am not talking about the top where the obvious curve is). There is no reason that the bottom corners should be seated lower then the bottom middle or the sides, bit it is in fact that way.

Dude seriously markdexter did you start the thread just so people will pat your head & tell you it'll all be ok?
LG dropped the ball & its being noticed across the interwebs by professional reviewers & regular enthusiasts alike. And I have NEVER seen a top end phone with this many physical flaws from any manufacturer. Hell for that matter I havent seen a budget phone with this many physical flaws. LG tried something new & they should be commended for that. But the execution is severly lacking in what you should expect for the money. Believe me I hear about flaws in pretty much every phone from every manufacturer (currently do customer support for one of the big 4 & used to do tech support for 2 of the other big 4) but this isnt the normal 1 or maybe even 2 common things that may be slightly off. This is a very large number of devices effected by 4 or 5 issues.

Thread closed for being a flame bait. It will not be re opened.
Don't create such threads again.
Also this rule.
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