Hello, I will get a Nexus 4 now in early May, but I came up with a question about updates. If i leave the phone with the stock rom, I'll lose my apps and settings to replace the future stock Android 5.0? And if you install the Latest build of Cm 10.1 when developed the custom rom Android 5.0, i will need to wipe and lose all? Thanks ;D (Sry for my bad english)
No if you update your phone from stock 4.2.2 to 5.0 you'll lose nothing. Everything stays as it is.
Yes, if you install any custom rom over a stock rom, you'll wipe and lose all. But all of your applications will be downloaded automatically from your gmail account and for like launcher settings or kernel settings you can backup all the info or you can use titanium backup app in order to backup everything.
So there is nothing to worry about.
Edit: By the way i am not really sure about the thing about going from 4.2.2 to 5.0. For minor updates like from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 you lose nothing. But i don't really sure about 4.2.2 to 5.0.
Hmm i take that, but anyone can tell me if i install the Cyanogenmod 10.1 (4.2.1) When come the Cyanogenmod 5.0 (Assumption), the team of cyanogen make this update with no wipe necessary?
Victorjales said:
Hmm i take that, but anyone can tell me if i install the Cyanogenmod 10.1 (4.2.1) When come the Cyanogenmod 5.0 (Assumption), the team of cyanogen make this update with no wipe necessary?
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If it is a big update with many changes a full wipe must be done in order to get it working correctly. You can always easily restore user apps with Titanium Backup or adb.
Victorjales said:
Hmm i take that, but anyone can tell me if i install the Cyanogenmod 10.1 (4.2.1) When come the Cyanogenmod 5.0 (Assumption), the team of cyanogen make this update with no wipe necessary?
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It's recommended to do a full wipe to avoid problems if you're going to install a new rom. The developers will most likely have to wait a couple of weeks or so for Google to release the files for KLP for them to access and use. No rush. No rush. :good::laugh:
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Hi all...sorry if this is very noob but hope someone can help me out...
i got my galaxy s4 for att and its been great so far...i did root it and got rid of all the junk stuff on the phone which was nice to do... but a little issue now..there is an OTA update and its trying to apply it by rebooting but it goes to my console screen i guess and i know even if it applies it it would get rid of root.... is there a way to apply this without having to reinstall all my emails (5 emails) and my apps and keep the root ability on it? I would love to get the feature to send apps to my SD thats the only reason i really want it.
again im sorry if this is very noobish to some of u but would like a nice guide if possible how to do it.
Thanks in advance
What device? Thats important, and DO NOT let it do the update. if you are rooted, you could freeze the samsung updater.
I would get off stock and flash a custom rom.
TheAxman said:
What device? Thats important, and DO NOT let it do the update. if you are rooted, you could freeze the samsung updater.
I would get off stock and flash a custom rom.
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im on a samsung galaxy s4 as mentioned above....which rom would u suggest that is not bugged? i want all the features to work just as it stock would..and the battery life now is great.
thanks
nxtstep said:
im on a samsung galaxy s4 as mentioned above....which rom would u suggest that is not bugged? i want all the features to work just as it stock would..and the battery life now is great.
thanks
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hehe I know you stated galaxy s4, but I needed to make sure, US version right?
Use my rom, mine is totally stock, with a few modifications, and FAST!
or you can go any TW rom.
here is mine..
[ROM] ViSiON-X v1.0|AROMA|4.2.2|MGA|TW|[08-03]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391142
then you will not have to worry about an update, until someone finds a patch for the update...
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hehe I know you stated galaxy s4, but I needed to make sure, US version right?
Use my rom, mine is totally stock, with a few modifications, and FAST!
or you can go any TW rom.
here is mine..
[ROM] ViSiON-X v1.0|AROMA|4.2.2|MGA|TW|[08-03]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391142
then you will not have to worry about an update, until someone finds a patch for the update...
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is there anything running 4.3??? and yes its US version
nxtstep said:
is there anything running 4.3??? and yes its US version
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No 4.3 just yet. Google only.
Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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I am using KANGABEAN Rom 4.2.2 v all Samsung goodies works plus better performance and some kool tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
Infamous S4 is great rom as well I go back and forth between those 2 All Samsung goodies works plus some kool modes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304792
Try either one you will love it!
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maxshah912 said:
I am using KANGABEAN Rom 4.2.2 v all Samsung goodies works plus better performance and some kool tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
Infamous S4 is great rom as well I go back and forth between those 2 All Samsung goodies works plus some kool modes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304792
Try either one you will love it!
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I use Infamous S4 as well, I love it. It's pretty stock feeling.
When it comes to the backing up part, I suggest Titanium Backup. Get the pro version and you can batch install all of your apps from a backup, otherwise you have to do it one by one. It also saves all app data and system data and accounts, so you can do a full wipe when installing an update or a new ROM (always a good idea,) then just let it completely restore the phone from a backup. You can use it to back-up everything, except for the home-screen layout (android limitation apparently.) Plus you can backup right to the phone if you have space so you don't have to wory about using the computer. I recomment getting a microSD card for 10 bucks at Staples and backing up to that. When you're restoring, make sure that you check what you're restoring. Most of the stuff in red are system apps that don't need to be restored (as newer or the same versions may already be installed from the update.)
For restoring root priviledges, CWM and TWRP custom rrecoveries have a tool for this.
I'm sorry for having to post here, I'm a new XDA member and I've just started using my tablet and found out I can't post in the dev section. I'm not sure how else to get help and a previous boyfriend told me the xda-developers community was a great place so I thought I would try here.
I have the Nexus 7 (2013 edition) and I used WUG's method of rooting - everything went perfectly, but now I'm getting a notification that there is an update (an OTA update - I think that's what they are called?) and it doesn't apply. I'm not sure if I should have, but I did the bootloader unlock and installed a new recovery (TWRP - I think that's how it's spelled?. sorry again)...
Anyway.... At this point my tablet is working great, but I constantly see this notification for an update and I'm not sure what to do.. It says "touch to install" and I've done that but it just boots into my new recovery. If anybody has access to WUG in the dev forum, could you please ask him what I should do?
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm sorry for having to post here, I'm a new XDA member and I've just started using my tablet and found out I can't post in the dev section. I'm not sure how else to get help and a previous boyfriend told me the xda-developers community was a great place so I thought I would try here.
I have the Nexus 7 (2013 edition) and I used WUG's method of rooting - everything went perfectly, but now I'm getting a notification that there is an update (an OTA update - I think that's what they are called?) and it doesn't apply. I'm not sure if I should have, but I did the bootloader unlock and installed a new recovery (TWRP - I think that's how it's spelled?. sorry again)...
Anyway.... At this point my tablet is working great, but I constantly see this notification for an update and I'm not sure what to do.. It says "touch to install" and I've done that but it just boots into my new recovery. If anybody has access to WUG in the dev forum, could you please ask him what I should do?
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you have the WiFi only version or the LTE version? Also, under your settings -> about phone, what build number are you currently on? Since you have rooted and installed a custom recovery, OTA updates will not install correctly. You have a couple of options in this regards, and I or someone will go over them once we figure out what version you are running.
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Do you have the WiFi only version or the LTE version? Also, under your settings -> about phone, what build number are you currently on? Since you have rooted and installed a custom recovery, OTA updates will not install correctly. You have a couple of options in this regards, and I or someone will go over them once we figure out what version you are running.
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ThankYou so much for the help... It's the WiFi only version. The build number is: JSS15J
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404833
BarbaraG said:
ThankYou so much for the help... It's the WiFi only version. The build number is: JSS15J
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Thanks for that:
Here's what you can do to install the update.
1) go to this thread and download either the odexed or deodexed version.
2) Reboot to recovery
3) Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache
4) Flash the .zip file you just downloaded
5) Reboot your updated tablet.
OR
You can read here and try this.
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Thanks for that:
Here's what you can do to install the update.
1) go to this thread and download either the odexed or deodexed version.
2) Reboot to recovery
3) Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache
4) Flash the .zip file you just downloaded
5) Reboot your updated tablet.
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You can read here and try this.
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Oh railed, thankyou so much - I was not sure if I would be able to get any more updates. If I do that, will it delete everything on my tablet? It did that when I did the change to an unlocked bootloader, and I had to reload everything.
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Oh railed, thankyou so much - I was not sure if I would be able to get any more updates. If I do that, will it delete everything on my tablet? It did that when I did the change to an unlocked bootloader, and I had to reload everything.
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All your data will be preserved. Only Wipe the Cache/Dalvik Cache, not the Data. Before you install go to Wipe -> Advance -> Check only Cache and Dalvik Cache.
Typically when an update comes out, someone will post a flashable update within a couple of hours so we can install them as well. Hope it helps.
Edit: As always before flashing anything, make a backup, by rebooting into recovery and selecting Backup (i check all the boxes).
BarbaraG said:
Oh railed, thankyou so much - I was not sure if I would be able to get any more updates. If I do that, will it delete everything on my tablet? It did that when I did the change to an unlocked bootloader, and I had to reload everything.
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Also.... If I just load the latest cyanogenmod on it, will that take care of it. I have the same old phone from my previous boyfriend and it's running cyanogenmod.. It will update the OS whenever a new version comes out and I don't lose the data like I did with the unlock bootloader thing?
BarbaraG said:
Also.... If I just load the latest cyanogenmod on it, will that take care of it. I have the same old phone from my previous boyfriend and it's running cyanogenmod.. It will update the OS whenever a new version comes out and I don't lose the data like I did with the unlock bootloader thing?
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I believe so, Cyanogenmod usually merges the updates pretty quickly into the code and you won't get any update notifications from Google directly any more. There are only nightly releases so far for this device if you feel like going that route.
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I believe so, Cyanogenmod usually merges the updates pretty quickly into the code and you won't get any update notifications from Google directly any more. There are only nightly releases so far for this device if you feel like going that route.
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Thank You! Very Much!!!
Do you think I should go the cyanogenmod route?
I've really liked cyanogenmod on the phone on barnes&noble device they are on, but I've been scared to update this tablet since we've broken up and I don't have anybody that can help.
BarbaraG said:
Thank You! Very Much!!!
Do you think I should go the cyanogenmod route?
I've really liked cyanogenmod on the phone on barnes&noble device they are on, but I've been scared to update this tablet since we've broken up and I don't have anybody that can help.
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That's completely up to you and what you prefer... I like the stock android experience so far, but there are many options out there for custom ROMs besides CM. Take a look here and here and figure out if a ROM in there has something you want... the great thing about this is if you don't like it, flash something else until you find exactly what you like... that's how I plan to do it, once the ROMs get more stable with the 4.3 updates.
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Thanks for that:
Here's what you can do to install the update.
1) go to this thread and download either the odexed or deodexed version.
2) Reboot to recovery
3) Wipe Cache/Dalvik Cache
4) Flash the .zip file you just downloaded
5) Reboot your updated tablet.
OR
You can read here and try this.
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I've been reading through all of the links you sent and some others I've found. Should I go with the odexed or deodexed version?
BarbaraG said:
I've been reading through all of the links you sent and some others I've found. Should I go with the odexed or deodexed version?
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I use deodexed, as do a lot of people who like to customize. There's not a lot of difference between the two. Here is an article that explains it pretty well: Odexed vs Deodexed
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I use deodexed, as do a lot of people who like to customize. There's not a lot of difference between the two. Here is an article that explains it pretty well: Odexed vs Deodexed
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Thank You, I now know the difference between them. I think I'll go with the Deodexed version also.
Thanks again for all of your help!!!!!
I recently installing PA 4.6 Beta 6 on my Nexus 4 because Android 5 just wasn't working out for me. Unfortunately I've encountered a serious problem: my phone is now using about a gigabyte of data per day! I only noticed this when the default data warning limit kicked in, but initially dismissed it as a side-effect of downloading/synching everything after the install. I reset the data limit and thought nothing of it until 2 days later when the 2GB limit kicked in again.
I've installed Network Connections by Anti Spy Mobile which seems to indicate all the data usage is from Google Contact Synch. I can only imagine something is looping, but seriously how could it be using so much data!?
I've un-installed anything I don't use and turned off automatic backup, but the data flood continues. A search for similar problems hasn't revealed anyone else with this problem, so I thought I'd ask on here before removing PA and switching to Cyanogen Mod.
Cheers.
It's not the ROM causing this.
#stayparanoid
Yep - was never insinuating that it was PA; just that it occurred following the install.
Sadly I haven't been able to work out what was causing it and have had to flash a new ROM before heading back to work in the morning or my mobile provider is likely to have a fit. I've flashed CM and will see how it goes, but I may well come back to PA or go the PAC ROM route. I'm definitely a fan of the PA features and am grateful for the work done by the dev team.
Did you try to accept the 5.0 update while on the 4.6 beta? It would probably have come through a notification. If you told it to download, it will never stop trying until you clean flash
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Pirateghost said:
Did you try to accept the 5.0 update while on the 4.6 beta? It would probably have come through a notification. If you told it to download, it will never stop trying until you clean flash
#stayparanoid
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It was actually 4.45 I downloaded because I wanted a stable release. After install there were some OTA updates and I did download them assuming anything OTA would be fairly stable, but I didn't know/realise it would have tried to bring down a major new version (5.0). Looks like it could have been my mistake then for thinking it would just be updates to the version I'd installed.
I did take a backup before switching to CM so if I get some time I might flash the backup and check what version it is.
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It was actually 4.45 I downloaded because I wanted a stable release. After install there were some OTA updates and I did download them assuming anything OTA would be fairly stable, but I didn't know/realise it would have tried to bring down a major new version (5.0). Looks like it could have been my mistake then for thinking it would just be updates to the version I'd installed.
I did take a backup before switching to CM so if I get some time I might flash the backup and check what version it is.
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If it was the google ota, it wouldn't install anyway.
We have not provided an upgrade ota from 4.x to 5.x
Its likely you were still on whatever version you installed, but the ota was constantly trying to download
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Ok Noob here (at least in this forum) - tmobile note 4 : Not rooted (yet)
1) should I update to 5.0 OTA or stick with 4.4.4?
2) IF i move to 5.0 does anyone know where i can get original stock tmobile 4.4.4 ROM if i want to go back?
3) I figure If I OTA update to 5.0 and then root - It would be safer than rooting 4.4.4 , but really want to backup my 4.4.4 if possible? How can I do this without root?
4) I heard (rumor) that root under 5.0 is more restrictive than 4.4.4 is this right?
Lastly
Under tis forum i see 2 sun categories:
Note 4 Android Development (Exynos)
Note 4 Android Development (Snapdragon)
How can i tell which processor I have in my device?
Thank you for your patience.
1. Really its up to your preference if you don't like it you can always go back to kitkat. theirs a lot of guides how to do so.
2. yes go to sammobile or search the forums.
3. there's no way of backing up 4.4.4 without root. you can root 4.4.4 or 5.0.1
4. I haven't really heard this, But really you just try it and if not your liking then go back to kitkat.
5. you have the snapdragon since its from t mobile.
@steve_77
Simplyeduardo said:
1. Really its up to your preference if you don't like it you can always go back to kitkat. theirs a lot of guides how to do so.
2. yes go to sammobile or search the forums.
3. there's no way of backing up 4.4.4 without root. you can root 4.4.4 or 5.0.1
4. I haven't really heard this, But really you just try it and if not your liking then go back to kitkat.
5. you have the snapdragon since its from t mobile.
@steve_77
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Thanks so much! One last question - If do the OTA update to 5.x through Tmobile - do i need to worry about loosing any data or apps, apps settings, etc?
Im not rooted so cant do titanium or nandroid, but worry about things going missing after update - what should i backup ? or is it pretty seamless these days?
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question - last time i did OTA back on Eclair to Froyo it basically nuked everything.. so though id ask to make sure.
steve_77 said:
Thanks so much! One last question - If do the OTA update to 5.x through Tmobile - do i need to worry about loosing any data or apps, apps settings, etc?
Im not rooted so cant do titanium or nandroid, but worry about things going missing after update - what should i backup ? or is it pretty seamless these days?
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question - last time i did OTA back on Eclair to Froyo it basically nuked everything.. so though id ask to make sure.
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if you update through ota all your apps and settings will remain there. they just get optimized for 5.0.1. so dont worry about things going missing unless theres a app thats not compatible with loli yet.
About a year ago I was going to upgrade my nieces stock Nexus 7 wi-fi tablet on 4.4.4 but come to find out there was some bug in the OTA update that would brick the tablet. You had to jump through a bunch of hoops to update it like factory reset. Once my niece heard erase she didn't want any part of that. Fast forward to now and she got a fitbit type device and the software isn't compatible with the current version of the OS. So my question is...Is that bug fixed so I can take the OTA update now or do I still have to jump through all those hoops to do it? If I do have to jump through the hoops then how do I do it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
About a year ago I was going to upgrade my nieces stock Nexus 7 wi-fi tablet on 4.4.4 but come to find out there was some bug in the OTA update that would brick the tablet. You had to jump through a bunch of hoops to update it like factory reset. Once my niece heard erase she didn't want any part of that. Fast forward to now and she got a fitbit type device and the software isn't compatible with the current version of the OS. So my question is...Is that bug fixed so I can take the OTA update now or do I still have to jump through all those hoops to do it? If I do have to jump through the hoops then how do I do it? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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I did update a few days ago and it was ok untill it was time of the 5.1.1 update - brick, so I downloaded nexus root toolkit to get it quickly done.
Make backup using gmail or just root using nexus tool, backup with titanium backup and update to 5.1.1 or custom without worry
yaro666 said:
I did update a few days ago and it was ok untill it was time of the 5.1.1 update - brick, so I downloaded nexus root toolkit to get it quickly done.
Make backup using gmail or just root using nexus tool, backup with titanium backup and update to 5.1.1 or custom without worry
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Ok so I root with the tool and then flash the 5.1.1 rom or do I have to go up in order?
Go to settings, about device, updates and install all the way up to 5.1.1, it might be a few updates. If the error shows then just use toolkit to recover nexus from soft brick and that's it
yaro666 said:
Go to settings, about device, updates and install all the way up to 5.1.1, it might be a few updates. If the error shows then just use toolkit to recover nexus from soft brick and that's it
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Ok I used the tool and flashed the 5.1.1 stock image on it and relocked the bootloader. Now it is very laggy. Anyway to fix this?
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
Ok I used the tool and flashed the 5.1.1 stock image on it and relocked the bootloader. Now it is very laggy. Anyway to fix this?
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The stock 5.1.1 image makes the Nexus 7 really laggy, even when running the ParrotMod fix found in another thread.
My recommendation would be to run Pure Nexus ROM by GtrCraft (links are in the Download section for ROM and GApps, which you need for Google App Store and services). Of course, use the Nexus Toolkit or TWRP as the easiest ways to flash.
Then, flash the ParrotMod fix by parrotgeek1 to help speed it up.
Once all done, it should be as fast as it will get and you won't have any updates or OTA updates to install. Pure Nexus ROM has SuperSU in it, so it will be rooted. Some apps will not work when rooted, so keep that in mind (mainly banking and some streaming apps).
PutoFace said:
The stock 5.1.1 image makes the Nexus 7 really laggy, even when running the ParrotMod fix found in another thread.
My recommendation would be to run Pure Nexus ROM by GtrCraft (links are in the Download section for ROM and GApps, which you need for Google App Store and services). Of course, use the Nexus Toolkit or TWRP as the easiest ways to flash.
Then, flash the ParrotMod fix by parrotgeek1 to help speed it up.
Once all done, it should be as fast as it will get and you won't have any updates or OTA updates to install. Pure Nexus ROM has SuperSU in it, so it will be rooted. Some apps will not work when rooted, so keep that in mind (mainly banking and some streaming apps).
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Well I would rather not have it rooted if I can help it. I don't want my niece getting into anything a messing it up. I have read that the marshmallow pure aosp is much smoother or was that what you were talking about? Can I flash that with the nexus tool? I want to keep everything buttoned up for her.
You can use tool to flash recovery TWRP, then boot recovery copy rom aosp or slim or whatever you like, flash it and you're good to go. It'll take up to 15min.
Just read rom description and follow install instruction
yaro666 said:
You can use tool to flash recovery TWRP, then boot recovery copy rom aosp or slim or whatever you like, flash it and you're good to go. It'll take up to 15min.
Just read rom description and follow install instruction
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Sorry for my ignorance but if I use the aosp rom I would have to keep it rooted or no? When I updated to 5.1.1 I just unlocked the BL and then flashed 5.1.1 and then relocked it. Should I have installed a recovery? I didn't think I should since I didn't want to keep it rooted.
BoDontKnowDiddley said:
Well I would rather not have it rooted if I can help it. I don't want my niece getting into anything a messing it up. I have read that the marshmallow pure aosp is much smoother or was that what you were talking about? Can I flash that with the nexus tool? I want to keep everything buttoned up for her.
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There really isn't anything to mess up when the tablet is rooted. It mainly just gives you access to more settings and more customization.
If you are dead-set on using a non-rooted ROM, you could also use CyanogenMod, which is updated regularly.