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Is something wrong with my phone? My Quadrant scores are NO where NEAR where they should be. I just got a whopping 872 I avg 900-1000. I know it might not matter, and that those scores can be manipulated. But a few have suggested this might actually indicate that my phone is messed up and if so – I want to get another one from Sprint.
Basics – I am rooted, custom rom (myn’s), stock htc10 kernel. I don’t know what other information is need to get help with this. I have tried running Q scores as soon as I do a wipe cache/dalvik thinking maybe it’s just slow after that stuff clogs it up. Same result. I have tried moving as much stuff off my sd card and now leave about 1.5 available ( I’ve slimmed my music down as much as I’m willing to do . I’ve tried running the Q score with the kernel set to performance, etc. I saw 1250-1350 one time, but I was using a kernel that was so unstable on my phone I had to ditch it pretty fast (multiple reboots, severe lag, etc).
I also wonder if there is something wrong with my phone because it does not seem to be able to handle anything other than the stock kernel very well. The phone completely spazzzes out with almost every kernel I have tried except for two. I am happy with the stock and have no complaints about battery life. I use the phone when I want and how I want and easily go 24hrs without having to charge. But the fact that only stock and 2 other kernels (king’11 and netarchys) are stable makes me wonder….
If anyone has any suggestions, opinion, thoughts, etc I would appreciate. I have searched and not seen this specific issue addressed.
If this helps, when I check my Running Services, this is what I see and this list varies very little.
Blik Calendar Widget
Y5 Battery Saver
More Icons Widget
AndLock
Handscent SMS
Antivirus
Calendar
Com.smithmicro.dm (have no idea what this is)
New and Weather (I have use the glass clock)
Google Service Framework (cloud to device; messaging)
HTC DM (no idea)
HTC IQAgent (no idea)
Voicemail
Ultra Keyboard
Def sounds sluggy.
My recommendation would unfortunately be to start from scratch. Backup only needed apps that you may not be able to download from the market and completely wipe, flash a stock OTA root ROM, completely wipe again, and flash whatever ROM you like after that.
I know it sounds like a huge PITA, but it should definitely help out.
I had a similar situation once, and this did the trick.
Ugh. Ok. I can try that. I did a full wipe/factory reset less than 2 weeks ago. I use Titanium so getting it all back up is not bad. I also sync to AppBrain so at least if I start with a clean slate I would know what Apps I did have.
Thanks for the help and suggestion.
to eliminate as many variables as possible, i'd do a nand backup, install your ROM of choice with no additional apps except the ones you use to benchmark and perform your tests. give it an hour or so after you flash to let the phone settle down (sync, etc.). you may have apps may be hogging resources or be running in the background (i.e. y5, antivirus) which will effect your tests. report back.
I will try that way first
Yes - antivirus and Y5 are always running in the background. Always.
ha - maybe I'll freeze most of the apps I listed as Running Services, wipe cache/dalvik, reboot and THEN see what I get. But I'm not ever going to realically run my phone without Y5, Handscent, UltraKeyboard, antivirus, etc. I could probably get rid of the More Icons widget now that I have Apps Organizer, but I really really like having one, 1/3 page widget with 8 icones that have ALL my apps organized.
Does your phone seem slow? That is what I would base the speed of my phone on not some q-score. What if you never ran the test would you be concerned.?.?
I would try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836728 after your nand backup. That has the latest ota, kernel and you would not loose root.
I'll have time on Sunday to try some of the suggestions. Thanks again for the help, I really do appreciate it. I was with a friend this evening, his Evo is rooted and running Myn's rls3 just like mine. He scored around 1300.
And no - my phone doesn't seem slow to me at all. But I've also not used another to know how it might "feel" if there is a difference. I more curious than anything - I tend to research things to death just so I'll know. And I find it curious that my phone is both low on Q scores and can't handle many kernels without it spazzing out.
Hi, finally here I am with my new Nexus 4. Through different devices that i disliked (like Acer LM, Nexus S in part), now I see a very good phone that does like everything. So here I wanna clear all my (and ours) main doubts regarding settings or tools that improves it. I red a lot in this and in a great italian forum, but some matter isn' t totally understood by people so informations may be subjectives and not in the same way.
So let's start
1- in the beginning of my history with android, 4 years ago, I thougt that 3g data with a good company works perfect with normal settings. But since 2 years I'm using a good and necessary app, Rom Toolbox. It also backup apps, but here it's important the set DNS function. In the past I saw improovements tapping Google DNS, internet was fast, but now, for example, using google search, it takes 2-3 seconds for showing results.
Why this "connection freezing"? Maybe other settings may be helpful for connection ?
ex."auto apply wifi/mobile network tapped, or improove dwd speed in some way...
2- A) I see that some rom users has wonderful battery experience. I would like me too , so I tried CodeFire X + matr1x 7.5 .
It has 10 days of life, but I would like to set everything, so : I need to do the undervolt fix, in addiction to the matr1x kernel (probably already undervolted), or this isn' t necessary?
Do you think that exists better ROMs regarding fluidity/battery improovements? Here I have 0 lag, for now (with a lot of apps installed with no notifications drains).
But I'm not very happy regarding battery: 2hours 22minutes, now 79% with 38% screen (46min), 32% phone calls (18min), 6% android and 4% firefox, connected with 3g (low use).
B) I tried Easy battery saver, i'm so uncertain regarding this kind of apps, because users opinion is so differents, like the choice (EBS, JD,2xB, Green Power). I choice this one only for download and stars rating.
But also Snapdragon may be good. For now, i found on them the lolzful situations: people that talks about 24 hours improovment(!!!) and a lot of people that is very happy, but on the other side others that says that process drains a lot of battery.
I think, at the end, that probably one of this apps may be good for battery, and you? If yes, I can't understand the best one.
3- A) android assistant: I can't understand if the "clear process" widget really free RAM or not. In the past I also red that task killing isn't good for android, but freeing RAM may be good (if apps are really closed, and don't re-open after memory release).
on nexus s I loved to close all processes with it's icon on the bottom of the screen. Now isn' t included (stock included, dunno why), so I can use Android Assistant as substitute?
B) boot assistant on AA really closes all app that i tap? I have everything blocked, like 10-15 processes ,unless sms and 2 widget.
4- I passed 4 hours for understand that dolphin can't import firefox bookmarks, it can't see folders. So I tried FF for android and now oviously they sync and passed everything. But I can't understand how to set FF bookmarks widget, no apps or ways to do it. If not, it's also perfect having a FF bookmarks shortcut
I red about a way to pass them on stock browser, ok , but after I can see on the stock widget all my folders and bookmarks inside?
5- FastGPS is always useful for improoving GPS signal?
please help!!
give me knowledge!!
4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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seems to be a short answer for explaining all, but it only answer a half question - 2) B
I wrote 7 questions(5 +2), so there is much more to say than 20 words.
persheshhater said:
4 years you have been using android and you still have not got it that battery life is 99% of the time kernel related...
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Hi,
Wrong, it's 99 % user related... (CPU settings -> overclock / underclock / undervolt / governor, brightness, sync -> mails / meteo / social network, rogue apps, data -> Wi-Fi / 3g, reception, usage -> games / browsing or just sms, etc...)...
Yes sometimes a bad battery life can be due to the kernel (bad kernel wakelocks) like sometimes a custom kernel can correct some weird little issues with battery life compared to the stock kernel, but people tend to believe that the kernel or the rom that makes your battery life and ONLY this. It's mainly the user... at least at 95 % of the time.
Don't blame the kernel if you have a rogue app, if you don't know how to use / set your phone (or your CPU) / set your apps correctly for better battery life...
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Hi,
Wrong, it's 99 % user related... (CPU settings -> overclock / underclock / undervolt / governor, brightness, sync -> mails / meteo / social network, rogue apps, data -> Wi-Fi / 3g, reception, usage -> games / browsing or just sms, etc...)...
Yes sometimes a bad battery life can be due to the kernel (bad kernel wakelocks) like sometimes a custom kernel can correct some weird little issues with battery life compared to the stock kernel, but people tend to believe that the kernel or the rom that makes your battery life and ONLY this. It's mainly the user... at least at 95 % of the time.
Don't blame the kernel if you have a rogue app, if you don't know how to use / set your phone (or your CPU) / set your apps correctly for better battery life...
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nice!
that was the reason because i asked theese questions.... so can i have your opinion?
still need help....
Hi all,
I guess ever since getting the Nexus 7 when it came out, I've been trying to reduce lag. It has become as sort of project of mine. The last year, I have gone over lots of ROMs, kernels, tweaking tools, and tried lots of good (and very much bad) stuff.
So far, I've come quite far and I am quite happy with the way my Nexus 7 runs. The Nexus runs great in all other apps, really. Browsing is smooth and not comparable in any way to what I started out with. I have some Danish, poorly designed sites that are quite heavy, and I get no lag.
Apart from one thing - i get BAD lag when scrolling down a list which has images in it. I also get minor lag at other lists, but images makes it horrible. My two best examples are the play store (almost unusable) and gReader (slightly better with images off in lists, but hey, shouldn't have to be like that).
I've been googling loads and it seems very few people have the same problem? I've had this problem with all kinds of ROMs, kernels, tweaks, whatever really. I can have a crap setup with a million services running and a google now process gone haywire with cpu at 75 degrees celsius, yet the stutter is just the same in play store and greader (e.g.).
My current setup (but note, I've tried many with same result):
- Completely fresh install of recent CM10.1 nightly
- franco kernel (1.7GHz CPU, 700MHz GPU, 512Kb read-ahead, interactive, deadline, fsync off, gpu scaling off, wifi performance streaming)
- Almost all services disabled, including most of google's, meaning I have greenify running, a few under google services and android keyboard
- Sync is currently off
- Currents is not installed
- I've got fstrim installed and run that recently on all partitions
- I've got 9GB of 13-ish free at the moment
- Location sharing off
- Accessibility off
- No widgets, completely empty homescreen (I use Apex, not locked in memory)
I've been testing on a 100/100Mbit line fiber and 60/15Mbit LTE and identical experience.
I DO have Xposed installed atm, but after this fresh install (and many other similar times), I go straight to play store on a fresh install before installing anything. Same problem always there.
I had been using Trinity kernel for quite some time, at the time I adjusted read-ahead a lot, but in this situation a standard read-ahead actually means less lag for me. I guess it means more, small lags, actually, less noticeable.
I've been testing Seeder and similar apps recently, but get no particular difference with this problem.
When using the older version of Google Play, it is much more smooth, yet in the lists with apps it still stutters. Like 2-3 stutters a second, at times it hangs for a whole second, when scrolling down. It stutters each time and image is placed.
My experience: It seems the act of scrolling AND loading images doesn't work well in parallel.
I really hope someone can help me understand the problem, or, if so lucky, help me eradicate (or at least) reduce it.
Mkay, so it seems I am in a situation, where lagfix etc. doesn't alleviate the problem with very low random write speeds. I have done Forever Gone and various other things, but it just doesn't help. So, after googling a lot again, with inconclusive results:
What the feck is the conclusion on those low read speeds? I have plenty of space free...
delanvital said:
the play store (almost unusable)
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The Play Store has always stuttered horribly when scrolling, as does Play Music. From my own observations, this is an issue with the implementation of rendering in these applications, rather than a lack of system performance. It is not isolated to the Nexus 7 either; it occurs within these applications on every Android device.
When you load the Play Store (or Play Music with album art) and begin to scroll, images are loaded when they come into view and unloaded once you move past them. I would surmise that the behaviour is intended to conserve RAM on less capable devices, however the consequence appears to be that this constant loading and unloading of images while scrolling results in stuttering. I have tested this hypothesis by comparing image-based applications (such as HTC Music) which do not implement the aforementioned function against those that do. The result is always that the former are completely smooth, while latter stutter incessantly.
Now that most new Android devices are shipping with 2GB of RAM, I do hope that Google will either remove this function or disable it on current devices (based on the brand/model the device identifies as).
Good Day all,
I have benefitted greatly from Google and XDA. So I thought I would provide a consolidated way of saving our battery's grace from Android System demonic drain.
I am running Euphoria with Furnace, and I had loads of Gapps installed.
I tried multiple attempts over a 3 days period and did many researches back and forth. And it came down to these few main culprits:
1. Android Location Services
2. Google Play Services
3. Qualcomm Location Services
4. Google Now Launcher
5. Unwanted Sync
Tools I have used to assist in this matter.
1. Disable Service - here
2. Greenify
3. Privacy Guard (should be in built in most custom roms)
4. Titanium Backup
Basically the highest causing drain came from Google Play Services and Qualcomm Location Services. These items persistently wakes the phone up and runs on the background. Using greenify on there further cause issues as greenify tries to hibernate these services over and over again, making this a self-made draining routine.
I followed this thread on Google Play Services drain fix and used the Privacy Guard to perform those tricks. I ran through ALL Google Related Apps and as long as "Keep Awake", "Wake up" or "Auto Start" is enabled, I disabled them. I also look through apps I suspect were waking phone up by looking at the last activation of those events (Keep Awake, Wake Up, Auto Start).
Next I followed this thread on Guide to disable google play internal services using Disable Service app. I also took the opportunity to look at both 3rd party apps and system apps to see if there are services that could be disabled. I disabled Apex Notifier as I realize I didn't needed its service.
Then the next sneaky culprit was the Qualcomm Location Services. Even though I froze them with Titanium Backup, they persist in the system. So making a backup of them, I uninstalled them completely. Hasn't caused me any issue with GPS or Maps. They are namely, com.qualcomm.location and com.qualcomm.services.location. Both appeared as LocationServices 1.0 on Titanium Backup.
I went ahead to Greenify many Google Apps, namely Google App, Google Play Store, Google Services Framework, Google+. I also Greenify many apps that Greenify suggested would slow system down or appear to run in the background which I have no use for.
Lastly I uninstalled Google Now Launcher as it was persistently coming up as alternative home launcher even though I froze it. And I also went through settings of apps to make sure sync were turn off. I only kept Calender and Contacts and Gmail Sync on.
Now I have reduced Android System from 34% to 2% and increased my SOT from 2++ hours to 4++ hours at least. Not an out of earth SOT, but I believe that's decent.
Hope I helped and I wish you all the best in your endeavour to reduce Android System Drain. Cheers.
Thanks bro
Will try and give feedback asap
Suscribed, Rated, and Thanked.
I didn't had time to do any research on this, and this thread appeared on the right time.
Thanks
Paradoxxx said:
Suscribed, Rated, and Thanked.
I didn't had time to do any research on this, and this thread appeared on the right time.
Thanks
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Will try and give feedback asap
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Your feedbacks will be appreciated. It works for me and I hope it works for you. And hopefully help many others that face our problem. Cheers
I can't seem to find App Ops anywhere..
Edit: found it by the name "Access lock" but there is no google play services in there..
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I can't seem to find App Ops anywhere..
Edit: found it by the name "Access lock" but there is no google play services in there..
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It should be found in settings page, "Privacy".
I know that this guide is meant for CM based ROMs but I said to myself "ehh, what the hell" and I tried it on my Cloudy 2.2 and the results were horrible. Had to fully charge my device twice in order to go through 22 hours and a total of 2h of screen on time which consisted mostly of browsing and messaging. Wakelock Detector told me that the device was mostly asleep and everything was normal in the Batter Usage menu. Usually I get around 18-20h on a full charge with 2,5-3h SoT. Maybe the locations tweeks were not liked by my Tasker app and caused a huge battery drain, although it didn't appear that much as a wakelock trigger.
I am wondering if the problem was caused by Tasker or the stock ROM itself, but badly I do not have the time now to tweak around and I am reverting back to my previous configuration.
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I know that this guide is meant for CM based ROMs but I said to myself "ehh, what the hell" and I tried it on my Cloudy 2.2 and the results were horrible. Had to fully charge my device twice in order to go through 22 hours and a total of 2h of screen on time which consisted mostly of browsing and messaging. Wakelock Detector told me that the device was mostly asleep and everything was normal in the Batter Usage menu. Usually I get around 18-20h on a full charge with 2,5-3h SoT. Maybe the locations tweeks were not liked by my Tasker app and caused a huge battery drain, although it didn't appear that much as a wakelock trigger.
I am wondering if the problem was caused by Tasker or the stock ROM itself, but badly I do not have the time now to tweak around and I am reverting back to my previous configuration.
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Try using GSam battery monitor to find out the real culprit. I used that to boil down to the final two irritants - Qualcomm LocationServices.
Really enjoying the app.
Here are the screenshots:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fvzvyvdsfqr1e89/AABeH-BwUHKOjpqnXaFcATbaa
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Really enjoying the app.
Here are the screenshots:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fvzvyvdsfqr1e89/AABeH-BwUHKOjpqnXaFcATbaa
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Kernel OS issue I am not too sure what issues are they. The issues I had was high Android OS drain.
@JokerAce my friend ...nice to see you posting useful advice ....gonna grab it ...especially qualcomm service....thanks mate
/LG-G3/d-855/16Gb/Titanium Black/
m1trand1r said:
@JokerAce my friend ...nice to see you posting useful advice ....gonna grab it ...especially qualcomm service....thanks mate
/LG-G3/d-855/16Gb/Titanium Black/
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Thanks mate )
Intro
I recently decided to do an experiment and see what (android) life would be like without google. I'll admit that I haven't completely ditched google altogether, and I'm not 100% sure I'll never go back to using google apps again in the future. I still use google search and gmail on my pc for example.
I welcome anyone who wants to add their experiences or comments.
I'll start by saying that my motivation to try android without google was more to do with increeasing battery life and reducing data consumption. Others may be more interested in privacy/security and this is another benefit in reducing your reliance on google. It is debatable how much privacy you will gain by not using google, but it depends on how far you go with the idea.
My experience with google play services is that it is a bit of a battery drainer and is occasionally unstable on some custom roms. What I've found so far is that without play services, the battery consumption(both SOT and with screen off) is much better. I do use greenify as well. The downside is that some apps(even mainstream apps you wouldn't expect) only run properly with google play services installed.
So, what I did is install a custom rom(in my case Slimsaber 4.4.4; you can use your preferred rom), without gapps. I'm using 1Mobile Market for my app store, HERE maps for maps/gps. You can download any music or books you have on Play and use 3rd party players/e-readers.
To sync my contacts and calendar, I have found Fruux is an excellent alternative to google sync.
I've found most of the apps I normally use are available on 1Mobile app store, but as I said some of them don't work without play services.
More to come......
App Store
One of the most obvious and hardest things to replace is the Google Play Store.
I've started with 1Mobile Market, which is a great alternative to Play. It boasts over 800,000 apps available and is free to install. The good thing about this one is they have a lot of the "mainstream" apps you would also find in the play store. Just download the apk and install with a file explorer(needs root permission), or adb. Others include F-Droid and Amazon app store. Here is a nice article on other app stores(with download links).
Search for "google play store alternatives" for other options
One thing you may need to do is allow apps from unknown sources, which is normally under Settings -> Security or Settings -> Developer options
Contacts and Calendar
Like a lot of users, I am using gmail and had my contacts and calendar events backed up with gmail as well. It's very convenient(especially if you test out new roms frequently) to be able to just flash gapps after a new rom and your contacts are all there. I have found Fruux is just as good for syncing contacts and calendar events. Or you can export the contacts from gmail as a .vcf file and import the file in your contacts app.
YouTube
You can use youtube without play services by using a modified version by Paraphron here on xda. The only down side is you won't be able to use your google account to sync(or add any account), so subscribing to channels etc is not possible(at least for me). The app is here. Make sure you thank Paraphron if you like his work.
Search bar widget
There are numerous search bar options. Different browsers have there own search bar, as well as 1Mobile app store to name a few. I've started using DuckDuckGo. It claims never to track you or your usage, so a big upside in privacy, but no personalized searches.
Maps
I read somewhere you can use google maps without play services, but I haven't tried. I'm using HERE maps, which so far has been just as good, maybe a little less smooth when scrolling the map
Conclusion
What I have found is the battery life is greatly improved without play services running on my i9100(at least 50% better SOT). For me the upsides outweigh the downsides.
Upsides
MUCH better battery life, both in deep sleep and screen on time
better stability, no more "google play services has stopped" or sudden/extreme battery drops
less data consumption(not measured)
Easy flashing a new rom. Just backup, wipe and flash the rom. Reboot
Downsides
Extra steps when installing a new rom(see next post)
Some non-google apps don't work without play services(so far I've found very good alternatives to ones I used)
Limited access to google apps
Extra steps when installing new rom
Manually install file manager(depends on the rom; you may not need to do this if the rom comes shipped with a good file manager with root access)
I use Es file explorer to install my backed up user apps.
https://f-droid.org/
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Some screenshots of battery life on AOKP-6.0.1(stock kernel, default clock speed and gov/i/o scheduler)
I was easily able to get 5 hrs SOT on slimsaber 4.4.4(with dorimanx 10.50v005, default settings)
very interesting, I still have to learn how to setup cal/cardDAV to sync my contacts and calendars...
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very interesting, I still have to learn how to setup cal/cardDAV to sync my contacts and calendars...
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Sorry for late reply, I've started using Fruux. It works similar to sync from google. Your contacts and calendar events are saved periodically, and synced every time you flash a new rom and you can choose how often you sync. I've found it works very well as an alternative to google(sync) without having to use google play services.
On this device, my battery is still far better without gapps/play services, and is the primary reason(pretty much the only reason) I am continuing without them. I really don't miss google apps, but that's just my usage
hi. i used fruux in the past, but had to dismiss it because I occasionally had some problems when adding new contacts failing to add properly.. I am using another rom right now so I am trying it again as I write... let's see if it will work fine... hopefully.. as I hate all gservices! will report
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hi. i used fruux in the past, but had to dismiss it because I occasionally had some problems when adding new contacts failing to add properly.. I am using another rom right now so I am trying it again as I write... let's see if it will work fine... hopefully.. as I hate all gservices! will report
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I noticed in the fruux settings you can choose how often to auto-sync. By default is once a day. Maybe you could make that more often.
I added a contact yesterday and checked on my pc(by logging in on their webpage) while I was working out how to import from my .vcf file, and it had synced successfully. Hope it works well for you this time.....
Edit: You probably know already, but you need to change the account to fruux from local at least in the aosp contacts app when you add a new contact otherwise it won't sync
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I noticed in the fruux settings you can choose how often to auto-sync. By default is once a day. Maybe you could make that more often.
I added a contact yesterday and checked on my pc(by logging in on their webpage) while I was working out how to import from my .vcf file, and it had synced successfully. Hope it works well for you this time.....
Edit: You probably know already, but you need to change the account to fruux from local at least in the aosp contacts app when you add a new contact otherwise it won't sync
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Yes i know that thanks. I have only fruux account enabled and visualized and of course I'm adding new contacts to fruux account. Nevertheless in the past new contacts sometimes simply could not be added properly in phone's address book... Let's see now how it goes with this second attempt in this almost 100% aosp rom I'm using.. Hope it works flawlessly as this is a very good solution and would be a great alternative for google sync... Will report!
Suscribed! Hi, there! What a great post! :highfive: I hate Google Play Services and the only reason I keep them is for contact and calendar sync. Currently, I have a Moto G 2014 and CM12.1. I REALLY want to get rid of GPS. Whenever I have the time, I'll clean flash and test :victory:. Keep up the good work! :good:
So far so good using fruux for my contacts, calendars and tasks sync
As play store replacement i use apkpure app
Don't miss gapps/services at all :good:
moly82 said:
So far so good using fruux for my contacts, calendars and tasks sync
As play store replacement i use apkpure app
Don't miss gapps/services at all :good:
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Great! What about RAM consumption as a background service? I really think that's Google Play Service mayor problem. TIA!
You mean frrux?
Very low here, less than 10mb..
Hey @noppy22
I really envy your battery life.... Well though I'm not a battery kind of guy but your battery usage really got me to reconsider the potential of ROM without Gapps.......My battery is about 3.5 years old and has now puffed a little (I've been trying to find a replacement but in our country we get cheap chinese stuffs which are not good and I've asked refund after a couple of them did not work and yes Amazon and ebay are NOT here to offer us OEM and Anker Batteries.... )..... If I use it too much I probably have to charge at least twice a day.....On light usage (just xda labs, youtube, viber, etc. and NO FB) I can hardly get 1.5 hrs. of SOT and max of 8 hrs of overall backup....Well that's when I used GApps....The only reason I use it is to sync my contacts though I do back it up now and then with 3rd party softwares...... I'm trying fruux at the moment to see how much it can offer to me to sync my contact....What I wanted to know is how much apps do you install and do you use Xposed?
@ssanjy
I can honestly say that using gapps on MM roms on the i9100, I used to get maybe 1.5-2.5 hrs SOT max. I found even without wakelocks, the battery usage with google play services(gps) was a lot more when using normal(xda, youtube, news) apps. When I tried without gps I found that my battery usage was about 50% better. Thats just my experience. And yes, it definately helps to have a healthy battery.
I don't use xposed or any heavy apps/games. Just greenify. Some apps are more battery-friendly than others to use, but I haven't noticed the amount of apps installed making any difference in battery performance. I have about 30-40 apps
My procedure for flashing new roms now is using es file explorer to backup my user apps, then just flashing the new rom and selecting all the apps in the backup folder(in es file explorer) and installing. It's pretty much the same as other backup tools or play store, only you need to press install for each one.
The important points I would make is :-
Check you don't have any major wakelocks
It is almost entirely pointless comparing SOT or battery performance between two users/devices. It depends on apps used, battery integrity, and even network variables(I find sometimes a weak network signal drains more).
Edit: Interestingly I find on other devices like i9195, not using gapps doesn't give me the same dramatic improvement in battery life.......
Rom without Gapps is excellent..... Fluent and battery friendly....I got 2.5 hrs SOT with 13 hrs overall battery after a long time.... I'm on Skin Saber 4.4 by fusion jack..... Will try MM shortly...
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ssanjy said:
Rom without Gapps is excellent..... Fluent and battery friendly....I got 2.5 hrs SOT with 13 hrs overall battery after a long time.... I'm on Skin Saber 4.4 by fusion jack..... Will try MM shortly...
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I'm happy that you are getting better battery performance.
I found slimsaber to be perhaps the best custom rom out there for battery. Don't be surprised if MM roms are slightly worse for SOT
noppy22 said:
I'm happy that you are getting better battery performance.
I found slimsaber to be perhaps the best custom rom out there for battery. Don't be surprised if MM ROMs are slightly worse for SOT
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Yup.... KitKat experience is also very good... Better than lollipop..... Last time i was on kk, it was with NeatROM and it was excellent too....I think I'll be sticking to it for while and test MM later....I was hoping to get doze advantage in MM and see how much it affects....
I remember that there was a time when I flashed ROM without Gapps but I had problem syncing contacts and wanted play store,. Play newsstand and YouTube badly.... So I flashed Gapps..... For now there periodic backup with Super Backup is getting things done for me... I'm using Aptoide for apps, Flipboard for news And using modded YouTube.... For the first time in years of flashing I'm without xposed and I'm not missing it too.... Will experiment with xposed soon to see how it affects....
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