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Anybody get an email saying theirs has shipped?

Anybody get an email yet saying theirs has shipped? Post here when u do
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I been refreshing my page so often, still nothing.
15-22 Jan bracket
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I'm in the same shipping bracket (jan 15-22). It seems people with an expected shipping date of Jan 9 finally got their Adam shipped. So, we need to wait a couple of more days?

I'm the 15-22 also and have yet to get a shipping notice
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Rohan just posted unboxing photos of Adam in his blog.
Adams were shipped in 2 steps - China to HK, and HK to India. So, there is 2 tracking numbers for each unit and the 1st one (China to HK) is not share with a customer. So, I expect those people in the pre-order 1 batch will receive the long waited tracking number soon.

Got the email with TNT tracking info today ;-)

Congratulation!
I hope they ship mine (Jan 15-22) before the Chinese New Year holiday.

9th Jan pre-order here and also got shipping confirmation today!

got e-mail mine was shipped too

Most of the 15-22nd batch orders have been changed to shipping on the 29th this morning. Mine was.
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gbishop18 said:
Most of the 15-22nd batch orders have been changed to shipping on the 29th this morning. Mine was.
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Yes. Mine has changed to 29th too.

Mine, too. Jan9 to Jan15-22, now Jan 29. So, it's a shipment delayed, not pre-poned.

The February orders were preponed, ours were postponed. Possibly combining the February and late January orders
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OK, time for me to post here, every post I have made on the NI blog is "awaiting moderation"
While it’s not life altering it is a bit disappointing that my shipment has been moved from the 22 to the 29th, but I’ll patiently wait. It’s looking like a pretty good piece of tech and I love my gadgets
There seems to be a lot of people on the NI blog who think this tablet is going to change their lives, I hope they are not disappointed when it arrives, after all, it is just a computer. Yeh, it’s definately the leader in its field at a great price… but it is still just a piece of tech.
My speculation for why there are delays is that NI are buying production time in a Chinese factory, so actual production days are out of their control. Surely if it was their own factory the production line would be running continuously and we wouldn’t have batch 1 / batch 2. Just my speculation and I have been wrong once once or twice in my life before.

Same here. None of my posts on the blog make it either. My last one was a my 2 cents, hurry up and wait being something im use too, just chill no need to stress since the lucky preorders while have their adams soon enough and will look back and maybe laugh. I'm just hoping it turns out all good and I will get a chance to order also. Its just tech, will all be looking for our next big toy after this one....still eye'ing a kinect.

Mine is at Lisbon at this moment, but according to TNT they cant release it yet, and only tomorrow ill be able to grab it, but since i got to work maybe only at night ill be able to post some videos of the unboxing.
24 Jan 2011 11:34:24 Lisbon Shipment Awaiting Physical Release From Customs Controlled Area.

Same here... originally the 9th. Pushed back to 15-22. Now it's showing the 29th.
It was pretty clever of Rohan to blog about orders being "pre-poned" when in reality this only applies to the February orders which was the smallest batch of the pre-orders. Based on Rohans comment in the latest blog post, it looks like the next largest number of people were in the 15-22 range and their orders have actually been delayed yet again. What a creative use of the press...

[INFO] Another Delay from Comet

I have ordered the Asus Transformer on 13/4, and really looking forward to receive it on 21st as i have booked a slot on that day..
however the Comet rang me just before telling me that the transformer will be delayed AGAIN and won't get mine before 9th May! i was quite shocked and kinda disappointed with that (though i understood the supplies...) as i have pre-ordered it for so long and they told me there were stock available for me at the beginning.
Now i am holding a Xoom, but i will have to return it in 21 days if I have made up my mind on picking one of them, arghhh asus really fuc*ed me up

Doesn't bode well for my delivery due on the 28th then

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Doesn't bode well for my delivery due on the 28th then
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maybe i m the minority unlucky one

Mines due on the 28th also no contact yet
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combat goofwing said:
Mines due on the 28th also no contact yet
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I rang them this morning to change my delivery address, and they told me it won't change the delivery time. After a few minutes they rang me back and told me about this piece of news. FML
just went on their website, now the earliest delivery time would be 3rd of May....i am thinking of ringing them again and know about this

I suggest you email asus with your order so you are on file for the keyboard offer,I did it yesterday and they said once on file the offer was available to me even if the tablet arrives past the offer date
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combat goofwing said:
I suggest you email asus with your order so you are on file for the keyboard offer,I did it yesterday and they said once on file the offer was available to me even if the tablet arrives past the offer date
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Yep. I'm going to send an email to register and then sulk if it doesn't arrive on the 28th

combat goofwing said:
I suggest you email asus with your order so you are on file for the keyboard offer,I did it yesterday and they said once on file the offer was available to me even if the tablet arrives past the offer date
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yeah i do think about this once i heard the news..
would definitely send them an email before the deadline

I've just spoken with Comet after the dreaded answer phone message. I was due for delivery this Thursday and I have been bumped to the 9th May. They informed me that all 695 pre orders are going to be moved back and that no one will recieve one before this date. Sorry all!
Asus have failed to supply the number of Transformers that were expecting.
They also have no idea of when the keyboard will be coming into stock.

try carphonewarehouse, thats where i got mine last week, they had the one with the keyboard dock ready to ship out too, as one of the rep tells me on the phone while i was ordering the tablet from him.

boiboi_67 said:
try carphonewarehouse, thats where i got mine last week, they had the one with the keyboard dock ready to ship out too, as one of the rep tells me on the phone while i was ordering the tablet from him.
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just checked the carphonewarehouse online, it was out of stock at the moment...
or u mean trying in stores? u are really lucky to get one

leeharo said:
just checked the carphonewarehouse online, it was out of stock at the moment...
or u mean trying in stores? u are really lucky to get one
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Out of stock...Unlucky mate
Asus didn't expect this haha

I got left a message too saying that delivery had been delayed from 21st till 9th of may, emailed asus so hopefully still get the keyboard offer and also emailed comet requesting refund of delivery fee and inquiring how definite the new date is (probably won't believe any reply though).

gbroon said:
I got left a message too saying that delivery had been delayed from 21st till 9th of may, emailed asus so hopefully still get the keyboard offer and also emailed comet requesting refund of delivery fee and inquiring how definite the new date is (probably won't believe any reply though).
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it's free to deliver on 9th according to their website...but i doubt they would refund me than 5 quid though..

There's 2 for sale on gumtree (at least there was) might get it a bit quicker

gbroon said:
I got left a message too saying that delivery had been delayed from 21st till 9th of may, emailed asus so hopefully still get the keyboard offer and also emailed comet requesting refund of delivery fee and inquiring how definite the new date is (probably won't believe any reply though).
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They did that to me to. I phoned them and they have rescheduled the delivery to 3rd of May.

I had one on preorder from amazon from the 4th of April. They then bumped delviery to the 1st of June. The moment I got the email about the amazon delay I checked comet which said they had them in stock.
So I placed an order with Comet around the 12th of April. They took my money straight away and scheduled delivery for the 21st.
Had a phone call yesterday telling me they can no longer deliver on this date. Now I am sorry but to take my money and hold onto it for a week is disgusting if they dont have physical stock. my order was not a pre-order but a sale. I asked for an immediate refund and told them of their shocking behaviour.
I have always hated bying anything from DSG or comet stores and this just proves why. never again!!!
Good job I kept my pre-oder with amazon I am happy to wait until June now.
Comet sucks ass!!!

ebuyer still taking pre orders with 77 still available from 22nd april

just ordered one from laskys, claimed to be delivered on 26th.
with a quidco voucher code u would only need to pay 360.99

At the time of posting this. Ebuyer says that they have 40 in stock for next day delivery.
Regards,
Dave

Possible ONE UK deliveries next week!

Ok so phone is ordered and I'll be trading in my DHD as well. Bye bye old metal phone....Hello new shiny silver ONE!
Fingers crossed 3 have told me it could come next week (but the expected date on their website is in fact just a latest expected date) but they'll let me know, and if they let me know. I'll let you know!
Also buymobilephones.net told me that they were expecting stock by the 18th so there could be hope hat HTC are back on track and have pulled it back. Atleast on the Silver handset anyway.
So if you're being put off by a possible wait its worth asking the question rather than just not bothering because you think its late anyway.
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mega news! hope handtec get their share!

I pre-ordered the black one by handtec, i will ask them if they still expect their delivery on 25th march.
(sorry for my english)

Just to let you know buymobilephones.net are known to lie about when they will be receiving stock.

abhs89 said:
Just to let you know buymobilephones.net are known to lie about when they will be receiving stock.
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was going to say - there are a LOT of complaints on their FB page about devices not arriving on time

maxbe said:
I pre-ordered the black one by handtec, i will ask them if they still expect their delivery on 25th march.
(sorry for my english)
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Yeh worth an ask then post it up in.here and I'll change the OP and title to show everyone what dates are now possible.
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Just to let you know buymobilephones.net are known to lie about when they will be receiving stock.
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Ah nips! Let's hope 3 aren't the same. P4u have been known for spinning a good yarn aswell.
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was going to say - there are a LOT of complaints on their FB page about devices not arriving on time
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Ah well we shan't hold our breath for them then lol.
I'll still let you know if o hear from 3 next week. I was told possibly as early as Tues but we will see. I'm not expecting anything.
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I had same conversation with CPW last week they told me while estimated date on the site and sent out in Texts is 29th there is a chance stock will come sooner, I'm so hoping mid next week

Buymobilephones.net have updated me on Twitter saying 28th.
Perhaps 3 were indeed just pulling a fast one.
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Anyone had any updates as yet on deliveries? Been trying to get through to someone at 3 that knows anything at all about anything but it seems today they're only letting people that at aged 30 are still having their asses changed by their mothers answer the calls!
Has anyone been able to speak to anyone sensible this week yet? Anyone received any delivery updates from anyone in regards to their order/phone delivery?

Belting, I hope so
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Regarding 3 - I ordered the silver version on Saturday afternoon - spoke to someone on the helpline yesterday (Monday 18th) and she said it would be delivered today (19th), but I rang again to confirm this morning but it was still in the warehouse and not due for despatch later today. Rang again a few minutes ago to see if was going out tonight, but now been told that only orders made on or before last Friday would be going out this week - any orders made Saturday onwards would be delivered for the 28th (which is fair enough I suppose, as that's what it said on the website when I ordered). Thought there was a sneaky chance I might get it early for a moment, but not to be.

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Regarding 3 - I ordered the silver version on Saturday afternoon - spoke to someone on the helpline yesterday (Monday 18th) and she said it would be delivered today (19th), but I rang again to confirm this morning but it was still in the warehouse and not due for despatch later today. Rang again a few minutes ago to see if was going out tonight, but now been told that only orders made on or before last Friday would be going out this week - any orders made Saturday onwards would be delivered for the 28th (which is fair enough I suppose, as that's what it said on the website when I ordered). Thought there was a sneaky chance I might get it early for a moment, but not to be.
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Yes I was told there was a chance of delivery today but apon calling today it was like everyone had forgotten the One existed or something. Acting properly stupid! They said they had stock coming in and I could hopefully have it by today but it seems they're saying one thing and doing another!
I don't mind too much as long as it does come by the 28th as promised, but it annoys me that they say something to get your hopes up then don't follow through. Gits!
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handtec official site was updated. (I'm sorry I omitted an important word)
Due in soon pre-order now
Expected date 27 Mar, 2013
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kechappuuma said:
official site was updated.
Due in soon pre-order now
Expected date 27 Mar, 2013
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HTC official? Link?

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HTC official? Link?
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Three : Estimated delivery date: Tue 30th April

compact_bijou said:
Three : Estimated delivery date: Tue 30th April
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Crazy. Where are these dates coming from.

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Crazy. Where are these dates coming from.
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Three's own website.
Guardian:
"in a statement on Wednesday afternoon, after this story had been published, HTC said:
"The HTC One will start rolling out to customers from mid-March 2013 with our biggest
priority being to get the device to people both quickly and efficiently."
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So, as and when it arrives.

compact_bijou said:
Three : Estimated delivery date: Tue 30th April
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That's for Black version.
Silver is on March 28th.

Palla71 said:
That's for Black version.
Silver is on March 28th.
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And yet Phones 4 u told me about 20 mins ago that they could send me a Silver one today if I wanted one??
I don't understand how every reseller has such different stock levels, availability and delivery dates....HTC have announced on Twitter that they've been rolling the phone out since Friday gone!!!

Well 3 said I'll be definitely receiving the htcONE on the 28th next week!! Just gotta wait I dont even have a phone right now which makes it even harder

HTC Developer Edition order status

Post your order status from HTC here.
I got lucky with my order when they put it up by mistake.
Order date 03/25/14
At first it said Ships the 25th, delivers the 26th.
Today this updated to Ships the 27th, Delivers the 28th
Hoping it would ship out early!
Current Status: Picking

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Post your order status from HTC here.
I got lucky with my order when they put it up by mistake.
Order date 03/25/14
At first it said Ships the 25th, delivers the 26th.
Today this updated to Ships the 27th, Delivers the 28th
Hoping it would ship out early!
Current Status: Picking
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That's how it was last year, everyday it changes. Tomorrow it will say ships 28th, delivers 29th. So don't get your hopes too high

just got off the phone they ship april 3rd.

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That's how it was last year, everyday it changes. Tomorrow it will say ships 28th, delivers 29th. So don't get your hopes too high
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Ahh man...
I already got my Otterbox Commuter for it. I hate waiting.

Same here but when I talked to customer service....available to ship 4/3
BUT a buddy of kine called and the rep he talked to said shipments will start delivering today...fingers crossed

I ordered from Amazon dev edition when will they hv in stock
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I ordered it yesterday, Status: picking. Ships today, delivery for tomorrow.

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I ordered it yesterday, Status: picking. Ships today, delivery for tomorrow.
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Tracking status will tell you that it will ship tomorrow and arrive the next business day and so on until April 3rd rolls out. I just got off the phone with a rep and he told me (and other xda users apparently) that the phone will ship no earlier than the 3rd of April. I placed my order for the M8 Dev on the second call block since the first one was apparently sold out right after the M8's official announcement and the website temporarily disabled purchases of the phone. So who knows? lol Some people maybe get the phone earlier. As for me? I'm doing some homework on what case and glass screen to buy. The Dot View case looks neat but I wish it had a clear back cover. Anyways, good luck with the orders, guys

I see that Amazon have dev editions so I guess they will ship on the 3rd also
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I've tried to order from HTC (under 2 emails so far but haven't tried different cards), and immediately after I've placed the order it has said "Cancellation Requested". I have no idea what's going on, and really don't want to call them :
Has anyone else experienced this?

SolarTrans said:
I've tried to order from HTC (under 2 emails so far but haven't tried different cards), and immediately after I've placed the order it has said "Cancellation Requested". I have no idea what's going on, and really don't want to call them :
Has anyone else experienced this?
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They hv done it to me that's why I ordered from Amazon
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daorderdillon said:
They hv done it to me that's why I ordered from Amazon
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HTC needs to get their s*** together. They don't even have the specs right on their own product page! Also, LetsTalk is trash and they oughtta come up with their own system. You know it's bad if you can't even give them your money -_-

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HTC needs to get their s*** together. They don't even have the specs right on their own product page! Also, LetsTalk is trash and they oughtta come up with their own system. You know it's bad if you can't even give them your money -_-
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Are u using a US card and a US address and USA shipping address and US ip address
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Are u using a US card and a US address and USA shipping address and US ip address
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Yep. I'm on hold with them (LetsTalk) right now. Apparently it was because they'd had an order at the same address with a different card (my M7 order last year), and it was marking as fraudulent in their system. I just had to go through a series of security questions from my bank, and I'm in the process of getting it resolved. You may be in the same seat with the order from a different card, and it was on my 3rd representative that they actually noticed this and helped me. It may be trouble, but hopefully it all works out.
EDIT: Just got it all sorted out. Apparently, every order through LetsTalk that is for a phone has to be called in and verified. Glad it's finally over!

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Yep. I'm on hold with them (LetsTalk) right now. Apparently it was because they'd had an order at the same address with a different card (my M7 order last year), and it was marking as fraudulent in their system. I just had to go through a series of security questions from my bank, and I'm in the process of getting it resolved. You may be in the same seat with the order from a different card, and it was on my 3rd representative that they actually noticed this and helped me. It may be trouble, but hopefully it all works out.
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I have a visa issued in the Bahamas I can't order but I hv a US address and a billing
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I had the same experience. After I ordered the dev edition at 1pm before it was taken down, My order was cancelled. I had to call back in to verify my order. They did a security check by asking me security questions, much like those from a credit report. And after that it was verified and confirmed. I guess they are just covering their bases but still I wish that they would of called me instead of canceling the order initially and me having to call back.

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I had the same experience. After I ordered the dev edition at 1pm before it was taken down, My order was cancelled. I had to call back in to verify my order. They did a security check by asking me security questions, much like those from a credit report. And after that it was verified and confirmed. I guess they are just covering their bases but still I wish that they would of called me instead of canceling the order initially and me having to call back.
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Wa questions exactly do they ask
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Wa questions exactly do they ask
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For me basic questions to verify identity.. In what county do you live, what address have you been associated with in the past 5 years, Questions like if you apply for credit they would ask based on the info they can get from your credit report but in this case your bank provides them.

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For me basic questions to verify identity.. In what county do you live, what address have you been associated with in the past 5 years, Questions like if you apply for credit they would ask based on the info they can get from your credit report but in this case your bank provides them.
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Told me they don't accept international credit cards
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For me basic questions to verify identity.. In what county do you live, what address have you been associated with in the past 5 years, Questions like if you apply for credit they would ask based on the info they can get from your credit report but in this case your bank provides them.
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Yep. Same things for me. The (actually quite helpful) rep told me that this was standard procedure with all phone purchases from HTC for security and fraud prevention (especially during periods with promotions like the free shipping one now).

Is anybody Pre Ordering a Note 7 from Sam's Club?

Is anybody else Pre Ordering a Note 7 from Sam's Club?
I was wondering how it went?
I did the pre order "form" they said I was on a waitlist and that was it.
Is that how it is going for everybody?

When I preordered I got a confirmation that it will be available for me on the 19th and if I don't pick it up it'll be returned to stock. I placed the order around 3am on the 3rd.

e36eury said:
When I preordered I got a confirmation that it will be available for me on the 19th and if I don't pick it up it'll be returned to stock. I placed the order around 3am on the 3rd.
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Here's what my message said:
Hi Les,
Thanks for pre-ordering the AT&T SAMSUNG NOTE 7 64GB - BLACK. Due to limited availability, you're currently on the waitlist to receive your new phone.
A Sam's Club associate will contact you should the AT&T SAMSUNG NOTE 7 64GB - BLACK becomes availabile at the club listed below. Phones not picked up within 24 hours of being contacted will be placed back in stock for purchase.

e36eury said:
When I preordered I got a confirmation that it will be available for me on the 19th and if I don't pick it up it'll be returned to stock. I placed the order around 3am on the 3rd.
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Did your message look like mine above?

les_garten said:
Did your message look like mine above?
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No. It says what I typed.

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No. It says what I typed.
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Crap!

Congrats! Your AT&T SAMSUNG NOTE 7 64GB - BLACK order is complete.
You can pick up your new phone on August 19th, between 7 a.m. and 8 p.m. at the club listed below. Please be sure to pick up your order during this time or it will placed back in stock for purchase.
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That's the email.

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That's the email.
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Go ahead... Twist it some more... I'm gettin' where I like it!

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Go ahead... Twist it some more... I'm gettin' where I like it!
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Sorry. If it makes you feel better, I'm not getting it then. I'll be at work and can't make it.

I pre-ordered x 2. free activation and $300 in gift cards were my reasons. I was going with Next no Matter who I pre ordered from.

email received a few minutes ago
"We wanted to reach out and let you know how much we appreciate your pre-order of the AT&T SAMSUNG NOTE 7 64GB - BLACK from Sam's Club. Given global shortages, we have not received your device in club as of Thursday, August 18 but expect it to arrive Friday, August 19 or August 20. This does not mean you will not receive the item, only that it could be delayed. As soon as your device arrives, a Sam's Club associate will contact you to schedule an appointment.
In light of this inconvenience, we will be sending you a $50 Sam's Club eGift Card which will arrive via email at this address in the next 7 days. This eGift Card can be used on any future visits to Sam's Club or SamsClub.com. We appreciate your understanding and hope to minimize the impact of this potential delay.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Please contact a Member Service Representative, who will be glad to help you with questions and assistance. Thank you for being a valued member. We appreciate your business, and regret this error.
Sincerely,
Your Sam's Club Member Services Team "

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email received a few minutes ago
"We wanted to reach out and let you know how much we appreciate your pre-order of the AT&T SAMSUNG NOTE 7 64GB - BLACK from Sam's Club. Given global shortages, we have not received your device in club as of Thursday, August 18 but expect it to arrive Friday, August 19 or August 20. This does not mean you will not receive the item, only that it could be delayed. As soon as your device arrives, a Sam's Club associate will contact you to schedule an appointment.
In light of this inconvenience, we will be sending you a $50 Sam's Club eGift Card which will arrive via email at this address in the next 7 days. This eGift Card can be used on any future visits to Sam's Club or SamsClub.com. We appreciate your understanding and hope to minimize the impact of this potential delay.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Please contact a Member Service Representative, who will be glad to help you with questions and assistance. Thank you for being a valued member. We appreciate your business, and regret this error.
Sincerely,
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Class act!

I just got a voice message that mine will arrive tomorrow and they would setting up am appointment when it arrives.
I was on the wishlist so was worried.

les_garten said:
I just got a voice message that mine will arrive tomorrow and they would setting up am appointment when it arrives.
I was on the wishlist so was worried.
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I'm wondering if the silver is I and black is not. got 1 of each. I'll wait a day for 50 bux

Mine is the black and I got the same email. Fine by me. Thanks for the $50, Sams. Covers my membership.

Any one get an update on their delayed order?
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Got a call this morning. My black is in.

Call em up.
I pre-ordered mine at 2 stores.
The first store called me Thursday, left a message saying it would most likely be in Friday morning. I was on the "waitlist"
I called them Friday afternoon when I had not heard anything.
They said no Blacks, maybe some in Saturday and I was number 3 on the waitlist.
Bummed...
Later that afternoon, I was curious why I had heard nothing from the other pre-order, waitlist deal.
Called them up and asked, "did you get any note 7's"?
They said yes
I asked, "got any Blacks"?
They said yes
I asked why didn't you call me?
They checked their list, found my name and she said, I was going to, I'm by myself.
I go over there, they ain't doin' Jack, it's like a Ghost town.
I say call a few stores...
I walked out with mine yesterday.

i signed up for the wait list and got a call yesterday that someone backed out of an order and
one was available. i was there in 10 minutes my first choice was Coral Blue but the one they
had was silver/chrome, i can live with it.

I pre-ordered mine on the first day. I got a confirmation and everything. Then on the 19th, I got the same email as mentioned above. On the 20th associate called and told me that the it would be delayed for at least few weeks. On the 21st late in afternoon, they called and told me my Note 7 is ready for me. I told him, it is too late. I went pick up from elsewhere. Sam is suck!!! I would not do this with them again.
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