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So I've had my vibrant for awhile, and then I got an hd2 again, just to test it out with android, and browsed around the forums ect ect (same thing I would do for my vibrant) and iv'e notice (coming back from the hd2) mostly everyone here is extremely mean, or in a bad mood, thats not welcoming at all, I went to the Nero v5 forum to read up on stuff, and there were people calling each other Bit-hes, and saying there idiots, and arguing over nothing.. People over in the hd2 thread didn't seem to do this, not from what Iv'e read, and you can't say you get mad at reading the same question over and over, people in the hd2 thread simply skip them from what iv'e seen. I'm no panzi or anything, I'm just curios to know why you people are so grumpy, it's just a phone, (a phone that can do AMAZING things) but at the end of the day, it's just you behind a monitor looking stupid by arguing with someone who simply asked a question..
Don't argue with me or anything, I'm just wondering, and if you really have something rude to say, PM me, that's where I finish things
This section of the forum is dead. The only topics that usually reach more then 10 replies are usually repeat topics that start off decent but ends horribly. Its not really the user fault but a combination of samsung, our devs resources, frustratation.
The bad vibe you get is from boredom, vs going to hd2 section where development is extremely active. We don't have much to talk about besides conspiracy, scandal, and what most people think is just bad business. I personally will use custom roms at the end of the day, but devs don't have resources. Users in hd2 section are finally able to get rid of windows mobile. They should be happy.
I think samsung is leaving a bad taste in people mouth with there recent actions.
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What he said. We're really p.o.'ed around here feeling like the man is screwin us and not giving a reach around. Since Sammy wouldn't dare show heir collective corporate faces around here all we're left to do is bi**h at each other sometimes for no apparent reason. At least in this we know someone is listening.
Or I could be wrong and there are just a bunch of Vibrant owners that are real jack off's.
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What he said. We're really p.o.'ed around here feeling like the man is screwin us and not giving a reach around. Since Sammy wouldn't dare show heir collective corporate faces around here all we're left to do is bi**h at each other sometimes for no apparent reason. At least in this we know someone is listening.
Or I could be wrong and there are just a bunch of Vibrant owners that are real jack off's.
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Seems that both are true. But, regardless of Samsung, I 've noticed the exact same thing, t omost the people here there is nothing but them. If you voice any differences then, go F-urself........ to me it reminds me of high school rivalries. Some ways funny, but mostly immature and annoying. I have a HD2 and the OP is right, the people are just nicer in that forum.
lmao, you think the phone determines who the person is? You think only Vibrant users can have a bad attitude? I think this section of the forum is just fine. And a thread like this will only add fuel to the fire. Especially that last sentence. Lets try not starting more problems by creating a thread to target problems.
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lmao, you think the phone determines who the person is? You think only Vibrant users can have a bad attitude? I think this section of the forum is just fine. And a thread like this will only add fuel to the fire. Especially that last sentence. Lets try not starting more problems by creating a thread to target problems.
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This guys voicing an opinion, and people CAN disagree, but shouldn't just argue.
Its true, people get pissed off by little things here, and even on other forums this happens.
Its just how people talk, if someone has a different view or if their wrong, some guy will come along and call him a idiot, retard...
And that's where the fight has started.
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So I've had my vibrant for awhile, and then I got an hd2 again, just to test it out with android, and browsed around the forums ect ect (same thing I would do for my vibrant) and iv'e notice (coming back from the hd2) mostly everyone here is extremely mean, or in a bad mood, thats not welcoming at all, I went to the Nero v5 forum to read up on stuff, and there were people calling each other Bit-hes, and saying there idiots, and arguing over nothing.. People over in the hd2 thread didn't seem to do this, not from what Iv'e read, and you can't say you get mad at reading the same question over and over, people in the hd2 thread simply skip them from what iv'e seen. I'm no panzi or anything, I'm just curios to know why you people are so grumpy, it's just a phone, (a phone that can do AMAZING things) but at the end of the day, it's just you behind a monitor looking stupid by arguing with someone who simply asked a question..
Don't argue with me or anything, I'm just wondering, and if you really have something rude to say, PM me, that's where I finish things
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I thought the Vibrant side of the house was bad. That was until I went to the mytouch3g side to play with my wife's old phone that was still sportin donut.
But as already mentioned, I think their hostility comes from boredom. Boredom that should be gone soon, seeing as how they finally started the 2.2.1 OTA for the mytouch 3g this week.
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The hd2 forum maybe calm now but it wasnt before. People asking the same questions over and over there. Many mods had to come in and clean house on de-railed threads. On top of that they get so many noobs who want to install android and dont have the first clue.
Then you had the winmo vs android threads. That would incite fighting through out the hd2 forums.
I myself almost refused to read the Q&A section because of so many repeat topics.
I actually sorta feel it is calm here. There is the slight fighting amongst members but thats to be found anywhere.
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The hd2 forum maybe calm now but it wasnt before. People asking the same questions over and over there. Many mods had to come in and clean house on de-railed threads. On top of that they get so many noobs who want to install android and dont have the first clue.
Then you had the winmo vs android threads. That would incite fighting through out the hd2 forums.
I myself almost refused to read the Q&A section because of so many repeat topics.
I actually sorta feel it is calm here. There is the slight fighting amongst members but thats to be found anywhere.
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Exactly those first 6-8 months was nothing pretty. The partial reason of it being calm, they have like 20 subforums.
Hi all!
I experienced a couple of issues with my tablet, but nothing crazy as far as now. I was still considering an exchange instead of a refund.
I have a faulty jack port, bad speakers balanced (corrected after root), and like every body else, bad battery monitoring with the dock losing charge while doing nothing. Some light bleeding, but minor and I didn't really cared. Oh and also, bad LED lights behaviour on the dock, which may be corrected with a dock firmware update, or not.
Anyway, the even worst surprised today is that my power adapter is dead. This is too much for me. I am really disappointed by Asus quality. Honestly, I can deal with some software issues, I can admit that such a complicated design like a tablet may lead to a faulty jack port (and even that...) but, really, a wrong design in the power adapter TOO ? How such a common and basic thing can go wrong ? And it is not like I have done something crazy with it, just plug it on the main to charge the dock/tablet and that's it. After 2 weeks, dead.
Asus, maybe you should reconsider some bits of you engineering process and especially the quality checks parts.
So my decision is taken, I will send it back and that's it. No more TF101 for me. I may wait for the next generation (October ?) hoping that the first generation was a test but maybe not. I will see. I liked the tablet.
We are not talking about a $1 toy and I clearly expected another quality paramount.
This is sad, when it works properly the tablet is good for the use I am looking at and the keyboard with extended battery is simply smart and useful. When you can charge it...
Get ready for the crazy fanboys to troll your thread with messages like "Mine is fine so you must be imagining it" or "You're in the minority" and then finish it up by calling you a troll.
You listed some issues that I forgot about. You're lucky you're taking the easy way out. TD doesn't allow refunds so I was forced to send it in to Asus on my dime. Counting all of the issues this device is plagued with will run you >$100.00 in postage alone to send this POS back.
Now I hear the B6O revision is better and it makes one feel like ****. B6O should have been what the device should have started with. They ripped everyone off.
We are not talking about a $1 toy and I clearly expected another quality paramount.
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Apparently this is lost on the fanboys.
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Get ready for the crazy fanboys to troll your thread with messages like "Mine is fine so you must be imagining it" or "You're in the minority" and then finish it up by calling you a troll.
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I think that I was part of the fanboys when I firstly received my tablet/dock. But each day was a new bad surprise.
On the good side, amazon does a very great job. They pay back everything : product+shipping costs+cost to ship back and insure it. We cannot expect better that having a product we don't want to send back.
fanboys are an unfortunate part of forum life. if you think they're bad here head over to the archos forums. you cant say one bad thinb wighout someone telling you it's your fault and that your expectations are too high. i rma'd my archos 4 time befor giving up and getting transformer. While i love my tf, i did exchange my first one for light bleed and dead pixel. current one is not perfect,but well within my tolerance level compared with my archos.
i think qc is a problem across the tablet spectrum right now. for the price i do think the tf is the best deal going.
that said ignore the fanfoys and do what in righg for you. the acer is not as nice and a little heavier, but has better build quality for the price.
How do you tell what revision you have? Is it printed on the exterior of the tablet? Ie, can I check something like that while I'm in the store easily?
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fanboys are an unfortunate part of forum life. if you think they're bad here head over to the archos forums. you cant say one bad thinb wighout someone telling you it's your fault and that your expectations are too high. i rma'd my archos 4 time befor giving up and getting transformer. While i love my tf, i did exchange my first one for light bleed and dead pixel. current one is not perfect,but well within my tolerance level compared with my archos.
i thing qc is a problem across gnd tablet spdctrum right now. for the price i do think the tf is the best deal going.
that said ignore the fanfoys and do what in righg for you. the acer is not as nice and a littld heavier, but has better build quality for ghd price.
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Funny, I seriously considered the iconia before getting the TF, just knew that I could not live with the screen as I often work with my tablet in direct sunlight and there is quite a difference between the iconia and say the TF or galaxy tab 10.1.
Sorry you had many issues with your machine.....for what its worth, I've boughtAsus products for 15 years and they are usually good quality, but every manufacturer has issues here and there. Hope it works out for you :-D
yeah....anyone who's satisfied with their purchase is a "Fanboy" and anyone who's plagued with problems is "to be expected"
Welcome to xda's technical support for the TF. We are here to listen to all of your complaints and issues. If we seem yo not care, it's because we don't. Feel free to continue spamming our forums with all of your unproductive and useless threads. We look forward to your feedback.
Good day
PS. I am not a fanboy. Just a veteran xda user who is getting tired of the load of bull**** on these forums. Feel me?
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yeah....anyone who's satisfied with their purchase is a "Fanboy" and anyone who's plagued with problems is "to be expected"
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no anyone who pops into every topic that is discussing an issue just to tell everyone that either the problem doesn't really exist or you should have researched more, or what do you expect for the $, is a fanboy. also they tend to reply to posts asking about quality with comments like.."there are almost no issues,ignore what you read about issues, only the few with issues actually post, so they look more common than they are".
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How do you tell what revision you have? Is it printed on the exterior of the tablet? Ie, can I check something like that while I'm in the store easily?
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The serial number is on the bottom edge of the tablet, near the charging port. It's also on the back of the box, along with other info and some barcodes.
Good luck.
Welcome to xda's technical support for the TF. We are here to listen to all of your complaints and issues. If we seem yo not care, it's because we don't. Feel free to continue spamming our forums with all of your unproductive and useless threads. We look forward to your feedback.
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Yeah, because technical support here is so farfetched. Listen if you want to be an asshole, that's your prerogative but don't act like there aren't people here who want to help people. So your implicit statement that there is no technical support here is false on its face. Ya feel me playa?
Asus Technical Support is so bad the users have to get it wherever they can. Oops.
yeah....anyone who's satisfied with their purchase is a "Fanboy" and anyone who's plagued with problems is "to be expected"
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Yeah, this would be funny if you weren't unintentionally acting like a dumb ass to try to gain some clout.
It's actually anyone satisfied with their purchase but believes that the existence of someone who is unsatisfied with their purchase due to massive issues is about as likely as a unicorn or a leprechaun and his pot of gold.
You wouldn't happen to fit that description would you?
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Welcome to xda's technical support for the TF. We are here to listen to all of your complaints and issues. If we seem yo not care, it's because we don't. Feel free to continue spamming our forums with all of your unproductive and useless threads. We look forward to your feedback.
Good day
PS. I am not a fanboy. Just a veteran xda user who is getting tired of the load of bull**** on these forums. Feel me?
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Yep ... sums up my sentiments too.
Not a fanboy. I have a couple of small issues with my unit but, to be honest, i have similar issues with laptops, tvs, cameras, phones also. Problem is with sites like this you often start to notice things that the average Joe wouldnt even spot.
What Im getting fed up with is posts telling us that people are returning their units ...
Check out the Apple forums, or the Xoom forums, or the Samsung forums. EVERY item has faults. Maybe technology is moving too fast for production quality to keep up ? who knows ???
Ive found XDA great over the years, and the forums are very helpful. The problem these days is that the forums are getting clogged with people who seem to think everyone is interested to know that they are returning their unit ?? why do we need to know ??? utterly pointless and just a product of the Facebook era probably ....
Seriously ... if you have a question... use XDA. If you have an issue ... use XDA. If you just want to tell us whats going on in your life PLEASE use facebook.
There are lots of people who want help and want support - or people who genuinely have hints and tips. Problem is you cant see their posts as they get lost amongst all the other drivvle people post.
Hopefully you will find a unit that suits you but I assure you that every unit is prone to problems. Show me a forum for any item of any make or model where nobody has found a fault or ptoblem and ill eat my hat.
Also, let's cut this hypocritical nonsense out. If someone posted a thread about how much they loved the TF none of you would be raging over it. But when someone posts a thread about giving up on the TF you're all raging over it and how inappropriate it is.
The statement that these kinds of non-technical posts don't belong on here is laughable when you consider the double standard. If there are going to be threads for people who are throwing themselves all over the TF, there are going to be threads for people to explain their displeasure. Anything else is one sided and biased.
Of course you'd go for that if you were so insecure you couldn't handle someone reading something negative about the TF.
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Also, let's cut this hypocritical nonsense out. If someone posted a thread about how much they loved the TF none of you would be raging over it. But when someone posts a thread about giving up on the TF you're all raging over it and how inappropriate it is.
The statement that these kinds of non-technical posts don't belong on here is laughable when you consider the double standard. If there are going to be threads for people who are throwing themselves all over the TF, there are going to be threads for people to explain their displeasure. Anything else is one sided and biased.
Of course you'd go for that if you were so insecure you couldn't handle someone reading something negative about the TF.
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Im not insecure. far from it.
No problem reading negative stuff. If you check my posts ive had problems.
BUT
We dont need a thread from EVERY person who decides to leave. If you really think that the General forum needs a new thread from every person who has decided to return their TF then you are either very stupid or a genuine Troll.
We dont need a thread from EVERY person who decides to leave. If you really think that the General forum needs a new thread from every person who has decided to return their TF then you are either very stupid or a genuine Troll.
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The number of people who have left is far greater than the number of people who have made threads. I've been watching this forum for a while and I can tell you right now that the number of "I'm leaving" threads that have sprouted are far too little to warrant your kind of response.
You act as if there are twenty per day, all clogging up the main page. This is certainly not the case. This is not a major epidemic.
To think two different people can't make a thread on their experience and why they're leaving is absurd. This isn't four threads discussing the same tip on how to reset the the device. Each story is unique and therefore a separate point of discussion.
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The number of people who have left is far greater than the number of people who have made threads. I've been watching this forum for a while and I can tell you right now that the number of "I'm leaving" threads that have sprouted are far too little to warrant your kind of response.
You act as if there are twenty per day, all clogging up the main page. This is certainly not the case. This is not a major epidemic.
To think two different people can't make a thread on their experience and why they're leaving is absurd. This isn't four threads discussing the same tip on how to reset the the device. Each story is unique and therefore a separate point of discussion.
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more than happy for everyone to post their 'unique' experiences ... in one single thread !!!
Then all those who want to share know exactly where they can find them !!
Everyone else can see 'the wood for the trees' .....
The easiest way is to look for the black sealing tape on both sides of the box. The B60K,newer version, will have black instead of green tape.
The problem that I have is that there are bizzilion threads on here with people *****ing that there Trasformer is a piece of crap. Everytime someone wants to complain they start a new thread which is getting a little out of control.
I have complaits about the Transformer but I did my research first. I knew there were problems with it just like any new product.
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Get ready for the crazy fanboys to troll your thread with messages like "Mine is fine so you must be imagining it" or "You're in the minority" and then finish it up by calling you a troll.
You listed some issues that I forgot about. You're lucky you're taking the easy way out. TD doesn't allow refunds so I was forced to send it in to Asus on my dime. Counting all of the issues this device is plagued with will run you >$100.00 in postage alone to send this POS back.
Now I hear the B6O revision is better and it makes one feel like ****. B6O should have been what the device should have started with. They ripped everyone off.
Apparently this is lost on the fanboys.
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Where do you go to check if you have the B6O revision?
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Serial number on the box or the back lower of the unit.
Apparently, don't mention iPads...or Apple....your thread will get closed before anyone even gets to see it...would have been nice to be able to reply that this was not just the one comment but the general attitude I encountered while searching an attitude I've not run across in similar Android forums while searching for similar answers about the transformer or Xoom..thought I would show my appreciation for our community here, but apparently the feelings aren't mutual....Meh....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582960
So...be warned....initiate memory wipe....deleting iPad from vocabulary....working.....DONE!
There is a whole forum dedicated to Apple devices, I believe. I think it's fine for some slight comparison, but you must realize that most people here appreciate how their devices are, and do hate it when people brag about their crapple devices, when most of their best attributes come from the hipster brand name. Yes, I am one of them.
I'm not bragging about...what were we taking about? I seem to have had that device wiped from my memory....(read the link lol)
No, my point was that there are various people on either side, but the type of people who show up to post will be from either side are going to be extremists who hate each other.
Oh the irony
I reported your topic because this is no apple forum neither an ipad forum. Then making a topic about it is inrellrvant. So this is no useful information te be asked or posted about. And no i have not appple products.
Yeah but its a general forum, yes in the transformer forum but its still general, luna just blowing some steam and thought to share with us all, no harm was intended
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I reported your topic because this is no apple forum neither an ipad forum. Then making a topic about it is inrellrvant. So this is no useful information te be asked or posted about. And no i have not appple products.
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Did you report this one too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575884
Equally irrelevant...and 'general'..show praise for your community, immediately get flamed for showing praise by the community you are praising...praise
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I know and no harm was taken in the report. It wasn't a hostile report just to keep things clean. I love his contribution to the comunnitie but that doesn't mean you can do what you want ;-)
For this kind of topics there is a general section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=256
ps you should know, talking about apple in an android forum can cause some guys to lose it
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Did you report this one too?
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No I haven't reported that one. The reason is quite simple. Haven't seen that one yet. I'm not browsing the forum 24/7.
There is no reason to talk about Apple here. none. All it causes is a flame war.
Yes this is the general forum. Generel to transformers. I for one; Glad they delete them.
I just thought I would post something that would make people chuckle like it made me chuckle..and I never go to the 'general' non-device-specific forum..ever..do you? This is home to me..
I don't know any of the folks in general..I don't often feel compelled to share humorous anecdotes with complete strangers. I had no idea there would be people here so sensitive.
FWIW the first 10 times or so I posted in this section I was told, or rather accosted, to sell my TF and buy a..whatever those things are..I am glad people don't beat them into the ground, but I also thought it would be harmless to post something I found funny. Thought..
I will remember in the future that some users can not handle this topic..like discussing abortion in mixed company lol
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I just thought I would post something that would make people chuckle like it made me chuckle..and I never go to the 'general' non-device-specific forum..ever..do you? This is home to me..
I don't know any of the folks in general..I don't often feel compelled to share humorous anecdotes with complete strangers. I had no idea there would be people here so sensitive.
FWIW the first 10 times or so I posted in this section I was told, or rather accosted, to sell my TF and buy a..whatever those things are..I am glad people don't beat them into the ground, but I also thought it would be harmless to post something I found funny. Thought..
I will remember in the future that some users can not handle this topic..like discussing abortion in mixed company lol
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I feel you. The days that the HTC Hero was populair there had been some more (talking about big) flame wars that evantly got good and bad guys banned (thats rare on XDA!). I just was trying to prefent it here. Thats all!
And yes you made me thing about what operation system and why you want an other operating system on 'a' device. thats all I can say about it
This is an ASUS Transformer community - not sure if our iPad friends in here are aware of that - so, yes, a little bit of biased pro-Transformer/pro-Android pep-rallying can be expected in here. I mean, if you join a group of Liverpool fans, you go in knowing that group is going to be cheering for Liverpool; you don't go into it expecting pro- or even balanced cheering for Everton. But life (and comedy) is about timing, and you happened upon a bad time to post your thread. We had just recently gotten through a bunch of "Transformer this versus iPad that" threads, the incidents of these spiking with the recent iPad launch, and I guess we're just tired of the fighting...for now.
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There is no reason to talk about Apple here. none. All it causes is a flame war.
Yes this is the general forum. Generel to transformers. I for one; Glad they delete them.
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me too....
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Oh the irony
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Yes, I did say I was an Android extremist already, and I pointed out that I am a sample of that population..
This thread inspired me to start a new one on all the benefits of Zanussi laundry machines. In the Asus Eee Pad Transformer General section of course.
Laundry machine = Asus transformer competitor?
What's funny is neither of us (the friend that initiated this conversion) were not talking about Android or that other thing, we were talking about windows 8 and what devices it is compatible with (coming from discussing what operating systems I could run on my transformer)..I said my transformer couldn't run it, he challenged that the other thing would be able to run it natively...which resulted in my search...if the conversation had been allowed to pursue it could have led to greater understanding for potential buyers IMO...I want ever 'on the fence' about which one to buy, if nothing else for cost alone, but for those that are and money is no object, I find the differences in the community, not merely the hardware differences or software differences, but the grass roots support to be beneficial in making an on-the-fence decision. I felt slighted..maybe it was a poor post, but the quote I posted I felt would have made me run to Android if I wasnt already here
Luna do you see whats happening with this treahd ? Now this is funny but you can immagane what happend with Apple in it hahah
I love drama
Um...I don't know what you are saying lol
Maybe I should have posted a consumer review lol I was going for more nuance..
Hi! I'm about to buy a tablet next week. It's partly for my personal use, but also for educational use for my daughter (18 months now) and general use for my wife.
I've narrowed my choices down to this one and iPad 3.. I already own a Galaxy S2 and a Nexus S, and enjoy Android a lot, but what my concern is, and my reason for considering the iPad 3 is that I'm not sure how good the app market is for tablets.. I've never had a chance to play with one except from in the store, and they dont have it enabled for accessing the Play Store..
Hardware-wise, although the iPad has a better screen, I find the Note to be more impressive.. And the 4:3 format on the iPad is not very appealing to me.. The extra resolution on the iPad might make it great for e-books, but watching a movie or playing with apps might not make much of a difference between the two.. the movies will be limited to 720p anyway as it's more than good enough on a 10 inch screen.. I'm not big on e-books so I will probably never read a book on it.
Software-wise, I hate iTunes so obviously the Note has the advantage here as it doesnt require any software on the computer.. I'm not gonna enter into an iOS vs Android discussion here, so lets just conclude that both iOS and Android are good OS's that are capable of doing what I require from them.
And then finally we come to the point where I'm stuck and makes it hard to choose: APPS..
How good is the app-market on android for tablets? which has the best app market for tablets? The iPad or the Note?
Is there any good educational apps for kids available on Play Store? Does any of these make use of the S Pen?
Does the S Pen have any good apps available in the Play Store, on top of the ones that come preloaded on the Note?
Hope to get some objective replies here.. I'm asking here and not on a Apple-forum as the iSheeps would automatically just say iPad, even if the Note could get you a cup of coffee and read you next weeks lottery numbers......
Lars
Have you searched the forum? This question has been discussed extensively.
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Hi! I'm about to buy a tablet next week. It's partly for my personal use, but also for educational use for my daughter (18 months now) and general use for my wife.
I've narrowed my choices down to this one and iPad 3.. I already own a Galaxy S2 and a Nexus S, and enjoy Android a lot, but what my concern is, and my reason for considering the iPad 3 is that I'm not sure how good the app market is for tablets.. I've never had a chance to play with one except from in the store, and they dont have it enabled for accessing the Play Store..
Hardware-wise, although the iPad has a better screen, I find the Note to be more impressive.. And the 4:3 format on the iPad is not very appealing to me.. The extra resolution on the iPad might make it great for e-books, but watching a movie or playing with apps might not make much of a difference between the two.. the movies will be limited to 720p anyway as it's more than good enough on a 10 inch screen.. I'm not big on e-books so I will probably never read a book on it.
Software-wise, I hate iTunes so obviously the Note has the advantage here as it doesnt require any software on the computer.. I'm not gonna enter into an iOS vs Android discussion here, so lets just conclude that both iOS and Android are good OS's that are capable of doing what I require from them.
And then finally we come to the point where I'm stuck and makes it hard to choose: APPS..
How good is the app-market on android for tablets? which has the best app market for tablets? The iPad or the Note?
Is there any good educational apps for kids available on Play Store? Does any of these make use of the S Pen?
Does the S Pen have any good apps available in the Play Store, on top of the ones that come preloaded on the Note?
Hope to get some objective replies here.. I'm asking here and not on a Apple-forum as the iSheeps would automatically just say iPad, even if the Note could get you a cup of coffee and read you next weeks lottery numbers......
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The tablet apps on Android are sufficient enough. There's just about an android equivalent or better for most IOS apps. There are tons of educational apps for Android. Best thing is most of them are free. Or at least have free versions for you to try out. There are some educational apps that make use of S pen. But I would let your child(18 months) grasp using finger for tablet use before S pen. I have a 2yrs.old. she just wants to grab the pen and smash it into the screen...lol. they are to young, IMO, to realize how to be gentle with pen and tablet use. These tablets can be great educational tools though.
There are alot more apps than what comes pre-installed that make use of the S Pen. There's a preloaded app called S suggest I believe, that you can see alot of those apps in one place. S PEN APPS THAT IS.
Since you already accustomed to Android, go for t eNlte 10.1. Its an excellent tablet experience out the box. Plus it does way more than we're discussing. Ex, universal remote(IR blaster built in), watching movies, drawing, photo editing, writing notes, stories, brainstorming, gaming, productive things, etc.. I briefly thought about getting an ipad3 at first, then I remembered how locked down it was and how boring using it was. I grew tired of the OS. All I did was jailbreak and mod it like crazy to be as close to android experience as I could get.
I recommend the Note 10.1 over ipad3 anyday.
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The tablet apps on Android are sufficient enough. There's just about an android equivalent or better for most IOS apps. There are tons of educational apps for Android. Best thing is most of them are free. Or at least have free versions for you to try out. There are some educational apps that make use of S pen. But I would let your child(18 months) grasp using finger for tablet use before S pen. I have a 2yrs.old. she just wants to grab the pen and smash it into the screen...lol. they are to young, IMO, to realize how to be gentle with pen and tablet use. These tablets can be great educational tools though.
There are alot more apps than what comes pre-installed that make use of the S Pen. There's a preloaded app called S suggest I believe, that you can see alot of those apps in one place. S PEN APPS THAT IS.
Since you already accustomed to Android, go for t eNlte 10.1. Its an excellent tablet experience out the box. Plus it does way more than we're discussing. Ex, universal remote(IR blaster built in), watching movies, drawing, photo editing, writing notes, stories, brainstorming, gaming, productive things, etc.. I briefly thought about getting an ipad3 at first, then I remembered how locked down it was and how boring using it was. I grew tired of the OS. All I did was jailbreak and mod it like crazy to be as close to android experience as I could get.
I recommend the Note 10.1 over ipad3 anyday.
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Nice to see all the x factor judges using our little baby ! Should help sammy shift some more units.
I'm also looking to buy soon. Does anyone think that the price will drop soon? Like around Black Friday? Should I wait it out, or is it too new to drop in price that quick?
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I'm also looking to buy soon. Does anyone think that the price will drop soon? Like around Black Friday? Should I wait it out, or is it too new to drop in price that quick?
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Samsung controls the pricing through authorized resellers. And the cost to authorized resellers is pretty high compared to other manufacturers so non-authorized resellers are kind of hamstrung by what it costs them to by product from those who are authorized. Typically you'll see value- adds like bonus accessories and in-store credit. Fry's is/was running "$100 in-store credit" with purchase. If there's going to be Black Friday door busters I'd expect to see them on 7" tablets and those by Acer, Asus and Lenovo. Those brands were last year’s door busters. Not that there may not be "deals" of some kind on the Note but you'll be looking at $100 off potentially not half price.
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Have you searched the forum? This question has been discussed extensively.
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Hi, I've been reading note 10.1 forums over a month even though I'm not lucky enough to own one yet. I'm not gonna question you're knowledge and awareness of these forums contents since I can see that you (mitchellvii) are a lot more active in here than I am, but yet I'd like you to point a thread that is about what applications is there available on google play store that are fun and educational apps for children less than 2 years old. I've not found one. Yet there might be one of course but you said that this particular question has been asked extensively, which is a synonym to a phrase such as "many times" and "over and over again".
I agree that these forums share so much information that half of these questions asked here could've been avoided by reading a few pages, but I think that when you search these threads in your time of boredom or your interest - which is exactly what I do - you should read what it's about instead of only reading it's title which seems similar to those 10 other threads where you just adviced people about not to ask those same questions "extensively". And maybe, just maybe then give your "constructive" answer.
I think that this guy here asked a very good question concerning what use note 10.1 could have to children, even though I'm only 19 years old and don't have any little boys or girls.
Please don't hate me because of this post, I just expressed my opinion on this matter and I might be wrong. I just think that people asking polite and appropriate questions should be treated the same way if the exact questions hasn't been answered yet, shouldn't they?
I think my point here is quite good and it emphasizes good team spirit. But maybe it's just me. Is it? (((see I'm sad and hopeless and yet I have some sort or HOPE that I'm not alone when I think that internet forums shouldn't be a place where people say inappropriate and rude things just because they don't need to say it face to face cos it's easier to say those in here.)))
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I'd like you to point a thread that is about what applications is there available on google play store that are fun and educational apps for children less than 2 years old.
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Try this...
http://www.tablified.com/category/kids/
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Try this...
http://www.tablified.com/category/kids/
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Yes that's something to look for but can it be found here in xda galaxy note 10.1 forums? What I was wondering was if this questions has asked in here before. I don't know if you got this link from xda note 10.1 forums since I obviously didn't read them all before posting my opinion. But if a person comes on note 10.1 forum and asks a question that's not been asked and answered here, we should give him the answer if we have one and we should NOT expect him to google it if the questions is as ungooglable as this one is. Xda is about helping, not about "you can't ask that and if you ask you won't get an answer because someone asked something like that a month ago so you should already have an answer because someone gave it to someone on some thread some time ago". Right? We can't escape the fact that there will be "help me! Should i get ipad or note i don't know and i'm dying"- threads every god damn day but this one is not a thread like that. This one has a particular point focusing on children and I think it's a great perpective. And I do feel sorry now for the creator of this thread cos I just filled the first page with my thoughts sorry about that but I just thought it needed to be said somewhere.
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Yes that's something to look for but can it be found here in xda galaxy note 10.1 forums? What I was wondering was if this questions has asked in here before. I don't know if you got this link from xda note 10.1 forums since I obviously didn't read them all before posting my opinion. But if a person comes on note 10.1 forum and asks a question that's not been asked and answered here, we should give him the answer if we have one and we should NOT expect him to google it if the questions is as ungooglable as this one is. Xda is about helping, not about "you can't ask that and if you ask you won't get an answer because someone asked something like that a month ago so you should already have an answer because someone gave it to someone on some thread some time ago". Right? We can't escape the fact that there will be "help me! Should i get ipad or note i don't know and i'm dying"- threads every god damn day but this one is not a thread like that. This one has a particular point focusing on children and I think it's a great perpective. And I do feel sorry now for the creator of this thread cos I just filled the first page with my thoughts sorry about that but I just thought it needed to be said somewhere.
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What you're looking for doesn't exist. But after you've done the research it would be great if you could post your results to help others in the future.
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What you're looking for doesn't exist. But after you've done the research it would be great if you could post your results to help others in the future.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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Typically forums like XDA are very general. What you're asking about is very specific. Also, at least in my time here, there hasn't been a lot of focus on mobile devices being used by children. So if you're looking for information I don't think you'll find anything specifc enough to meet your needs. If you're asking if there's a need I'd say yes, but it would be of interest to a small subset of the community. Hope that helps.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying? I'm not looking for anything. In my first post I replied to mitchellvii that he's not actually helping anyone which should be the point in here. If you read my posts I think you'll see I don't currently need any help and I'm not looking for anything. Excuse me if I didn't catch your point on your last post but please explain me if you think I missed something which is quite possible since english is not my best language.
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Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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I know where Mitch was coming from. Just today there were three threads started besides your all asking "should I buy a Note?" That in addition to others that were already open. His answer assumed yours was a question already asked but yours was specifc to children. Nobody should be offended. Hopefully you'll get the Note and someday have children you can hand it down to.
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Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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Ironically, I find your posts to be even less helpful than the poster you originally replied to. JMO
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Oh and I wasn't looking for a thread concerning this matter cos I thought from the beginning that it doesn't exist, so I asked mitchellvii to point one which he obviously hasn't been able to do yet. My purpose was to tell someone who just replied to a unigue question - "there is plenty of other questions like this one." - to go find another one if there's so many of them. Okay?
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First of all you need to chill out. As Barry said we get 2 or 3 these "Why should I buy this tablet?" threads each day.
The OP didn't mention his interest in educational apps until about the 8th paragraph down. 90% of his question has been asked and answered hundreds of times. Thus it is pretty clear to me the OP did not spend 10 seconds searching for an answer prior to asking, otherwise he would have just asked about educational apps without the rest.
Read then ask.
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I have requested the Mods to place a stickie about this at the top of the page so we can hopefully cut down on the duplicate threads.
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Well, I think I made a better thread by describing my situation, rather than simply starting a thread with: "Are there any educational apps for this thing?"
You say: read, then ask
I say: Read the whole initial post before answering, not just the first line.
And for the record, I have been searching and reading a lot before posting here, but didn't really find any clear and good information regarding my question..
Anyway, none the less, I got some good answers here and the link that was posted was very helpful.. It really makes it easier to decide, and I'm 90% sure that I will go for the Note.. Thanks!
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Samsung controls the pricing through authorized resellers. And the cost to authorized resellers is pretty high compared to other manufacturers so non-authorized resellers are kind of hamstrung by what it costs them to by product from those who are authorized. Typically you'll see value- adds like bonus accessories and in-store credit. Fry's is/was running "$100 in-store credit" with purchase. If there's going to be Black Friday door busters I'd expect to see them on 7" tablets and those by Acer, Asus and Lenovo. Those brands were last year’s door busters. Not that there may not be "deals" of some kind on the Note but you'll be looking at $100 off potentially not half price.
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So would you suggest buying at a certain location in case the price drops? Is Amazon a good choice for purchasing this? I get 5% cash back if I buy with my Discover card starting Monday (online purchases). I hear Best Buy is good too for their return policy. I've always loved Amazon for no-hassle returns though. Any advice?
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PsiPhiDan said:
So would you suggest buying at a certain location in case the price drops? Is Amazon a good choice for purchasing this? I get 5% cash back if I buy with my Discover card starting Monday (online purchases). I hear Best Buy is good too for their return policy. I've always loved Amazon for no-hassle returns though. Any advice?
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I think the lowest price last year for the OG G-Tab 10.1 over Black Friday was $349 vs. $499 retail. I wouldn't expect any better on the Note. But hey, these are crazy times so who knows what retailers will do to bring people in this year. Price protection's usually 30 days so you'd have to wait until the end of October to have the reseller match any holiday discounts. If you know anyone that's a Best Buy Silver Rewards member I think they get 60 days price protection.
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Ironically, I find your posts to be even less helpful than the poster you originally replied to. JMO
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That's true but when someone would lighten up and think about what I said then there would be even more helpful posts
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Apart from the usefull threads, can the mods wipe this and QnA board completely, it's painfully how much people are moaning about problems. I don't think I've seen a phone been complained about so much
This happens on every launch, should've seen galaxy nexus' launch with people whining about old SoC, crappy camera, pentile display and what not. Don't think they'll wipe the board as they haven't ever done that yet.
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Wont really make a difference lol, the noobs would just flood the forum again anyway
i'd just want to delete "a vs b" threads - instead of being objective, they're just filled with blatant and pissy fanboyism.
The other threads will eventually die out but those always stay up on the front page. fanboy fight to the death
Most posters will wait till they actually have the phone to start posting. Once they do, these garbage opinion threads will naturally start drifting to the bottom. It's more under control than it appears. Give it a couple weeks after launch and we will be fine in here.
Yep, just normal transition...
What really bothers me is the low price of this device.
Different type of idiots will buy this phone and decide to root it just out of curiosity.
Then they will bombard "Development Forum" with unbelievably ignorant posts. Developers leave because of this. It happened in Galaxy Note forum and I'm sure it happens with every single forum nowadays.
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i'd just want to delete "a vs b" threads - instead of being objective, they're just filled with blatant and pissy fanboyism.
The other threads will eventually die out but those always stay up on the front page. fanboy fight to the death
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I'd also vote to remove the "Should I get this phone?" threads.
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What really bothers me is the low price of this device.
Different type of idiots will buy this phone and decide to root it just out of curiosity.
Then they will bombard "Development Forum" with unbelievably ignorant posts. Developers leave because of this. It happened in Galaxy Note forum and I'm sure it happens with every single forum nowadays.
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I think it happens to all phones now days. Keep on mind that millions of devices are activated everyday so its becoming increasingly harder for XDA to enforce all the rules (like search before you post etc etc) and everyone is a volunteer, so you know ? Times are changing I guess we better get used too LOL
But god knows I agree with you,even tho I only signed up like 2 years ago I remember coming here way before that just to read, everyone here was so knowledgeable, and far ahead of my skill level, it just made me refrain from posting and look stupid ! Now ??? 60% of the things I read here are stupid answers to stupid questions that have been answered numerous times before
My first device was the HD2, the forum there was nice and helpful, ROMS where actually good and everything, Getting WP7 activated and messing around with ICS
Moved to the SGS1, pretty much same thing, a lot of new stuff was coming along at my end of the device (Gamerzrom ect)
Moved to SGS2, started off well, then everyday was a new ROM that was basically stock with 'speed mods' and 'improvements made all around' and an ugly skin
Im hoping the N4 will have a somewhat good developer base and not idiots making a themed ROM everyday.
Anyway, this is going to be a painful 6 days till I can order it ):. I will see you lot then