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I have noticed something strange happening with my phone. I have started charging it every night now so that it will be fully charged the next day.
When it is fully charged, I turn it off completely to save the battery, and to stop noisy email alerts. In the morning I turn the phone back on and it says 73% battery level, despite being turned off overnight, so nothing should be draining the battery.
If I leave the phone on Standby overnight the battery level is always 90%+ the next morning.
What the hell is going on? Does anyone else notice this quirk?
You can try another battery and oberve if the problem would still occur..
It could have something to do with the difference in temperature? In the morning it's coooled off and maybe that does something with the measurement?
Did you put ur fone into flight mode.
NewSPV said:
Hi
I have noticed something strange happening with my phone. I have started charging it every night now so that it will be fully charged the next day.
When it is fully charged, I turn it off completely to save the battery, and to stop noisy email alerts. In the morning I turn the phone back on and it says 73% battery level, despite being turned off overnight, so nothing should be draining the battery.
If I leave the phone on Standby overnight the battery level is always 90%+ the next morning.
What the hell is going on? Does anyone else notice this quirk?
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Huh, I've never heard of that before, but then I never turn mine off. When you say "turn it off" I am assuming it is when you hold down the off button for a few seconds and answer yes to "really" turn it off. I think its very strange that it uses more power off than in standby. Maybe you have come across a nasty hardware bug. Keep us posted.
Matterhorn said:
Huh, I've never heard of that before, but then I never turn mine off. When you say "turn it off" I am assuming it is when you hold down the off button for a few seconds and answer yes to "really" turn it off. I think its very strange that it uses more power off than in standby. Maybe you have come across a nasty hardware bug. Keep us posted.
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Yes I do mean holding down until it tells you data may be lost are you sure.
And it is still doing it. If I fully charge my phone at night and then leave it on standby the next morning the battery gauge will say something like 96%.
If I turn it off, it is always under 80% the next morning, this makes no sense. I leave the phone in standby now with the volume off, and the backlight and power set to switch off.
I keep it in a cradle now, this is a stock photo, not my phone in the cradle.
Charge your battery to FULL, then take it out of the phone when going to sleep, when you WAKE up, put the battery in, if it's at 100% or 99% then it's your PHONE. If it's at 96% like you said before then it's your BATTERY.
Memory card draining power
This was a ROM bug on i-mate JAMin on the first ROM versions that was available. A memory card inserted will drain power from the device. What brand do you have and do you have a memory card inserted ?
If my HD has 20% power left and is running program, it will always power off without low power alert after a few minutes. Then, you must recharge it for power on.
In addition, I found that the refresh interval of power indicator looks slow, in other words, after it has been charged and run for a while, the power indictator is still 100%.
Can anybody tell me the reason and how to resolve it? Thanks!
Are you using the original battery?
Battery level is rather inaccurate, especially with 3rd party batteries, so don't take it for granted.
The battery is certainly an original battery.
Is there a possibility that the issue is relative to ROM version?
I have a experience that I flashed a rom of version 21109 into my HD, the issue occured every time. Afterward, I reflashed a stable rom of version 20769 back to it, the issue has never occured. But, several days ago, I flashed the newest radio into my HD, after that, the same issue occured anew.
I'd blame the battery, if it dies when your unit reports 20% charge, it must be in a pretty bad shape. If you can find a spare battery, give it a try...
was anything more found out about this? I also find my battery indicator very slow to update....soft reset my device and lost 5% power according to the battery...I have even had the reverse effect after a charge,....soft reset after a charge and seen MORE power than indicated.
This is making me paranoid and search for every last tweak to save power but it might be that the indicator is wrong in the first place - ideas?
Charge the battery full and let it drain to zero,and one time again.this should recalibrate the powermeter.
or your battery is old and broken...if you often charge your device when its not even required the battery will loose power and be dead in a very short time.
i know my english is not the best,hope you understand what i mean
I have charged my Nexus One yesterday for the first time. I live in holland so i had to use my USB cable, and the power adapter that came with my HTC hero to plug my USB cable in.
After the phone was charged 100%, i disconnected it from the charger and only downloaded + added a widget to my home screen. After i did that the battery was already down tot 97% :O:O
Is it defective ?
i noticed having to complete a few charge cycles.. charge fully, use it till dead, charge again
now it seems to hold out much longer
Hmm ok i'll try that. But did yours also drain this fast?
what setting is your screen on? seriously though, im sure some other battery experts here would know, but i think they take a few cycles to get to maximum efficiency
malicious85 said:
what setting is your screen on? seriously though, im sure some other battery experts here would know, but i think they take a few cycles to get to maximum efficiency
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What do you mean with screen setting, and what should i put it on?
Sorry totally new to the phone hehe
I've noticed this too. However as soon as the battery reaches around 50% it takes a lot more to drain so it evens out in the end I guess
teihoata said:
I've noticed this too. However as soon as the battery reaches around 50% it takes a lot more to drain so it evens out in the end I guess
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Hmm ok so it also went that fast on your phone? i have been using it for about an hour now and its down to about ~90% =\, concerns me a bit.
Found out something else, concering the usage of the screen. When i look here:
Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Battery Use
The phone tells what uses the battery the most or something, but the strange thing is that it says:
Display 55%
Isn't that very high? Maybe that is causing my battery to drain so fast
Battery meters are not an exact science. Its using what it knows about the battery's state to guess of how much % is remaining. The battery meter will need to be calibrated once, and then overall battery should improve with your next normal 3-6 full charges.
Again, you do not need to and you shouldn't repeatedly drain the battery to 0, only once is this needed to set the phones battery meter, unless you clear it (possible within amon ra's bootloader).
As for your observation, yes that is completely normal, there is not a whole lot of definition within 3% of battery as far as displaying it. What the real picture? Enter in #*#*4363*#*# on your dial pad and then go to battery information, and you'll see the accurate voltage. (this is also accessible from "spare parts" if you have it)
Nipje said:
Found out something else, concering the usage of the screen. When i look here:
Menu -> Settings -> About Phone -> Battery Use
The phone tells what uses the battery the most or something, but the strange thing is that it says:
Display 55%
Isn't that very high? Maybe that is causing my battery to drain so fast
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All %'s here are vs the amount of time on battery (shown at the top in h:m). If you just unplugged your phone and you go looking here, you'll see the display % VERY HIGH... because the screen has been on the entire time its been unplugged
Its a % after all of the usage since last unplugged.
i've noticed my battery life is much better since i got the desktop dock.. lots of people charge until the light turns green then immediately grab it and start using..
leave it for another hour or two and it seems to get much better.
dont know if anyone else has noticed this but the top corner indicator light turns green once the battery goes somewhere over 90%, leaving it charge longer will get you to 100
malicious85 said:
dont know if anyone else has noticed this but the top corner indicator light turns green once the battery goes somewhere over 90%, leaving it charge longer will get you to 100
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Good point, I did notice this by accident a few times.
Nipje said:
What do you mean with screen setting, and what should i put it on?
Sorry totally new to the phone hehe
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You probably found this by now, but one flick to the left and you should have a widget for WiFi, GPS, etc. The far right one toggles 3 levels of screen brightness. The brightest two settings really suck down battery.
just a tip, when you are draining it to recalibrate the battery, after you get to the point that the phone shuts off, boot into the bootloader and run that thing till it completely dies... i did this for my phone, sat it in bootloader with a bright ass screen for like 15 min before it finally finished off... get every last ounce of juice out of it before you start charging it back up
Hmm thanks for al the reactions guys. I'm going to recalibrate my battery now, and lets see if that helps a bit .
Then i have a other question, its not about my battery but since i already have a open topic i dont want to create another one .
Can anyone of you test the following:
When you are calling with someone, and your calling volume is on the maximum (so the volume of the speaker that you hold against your ear). Can anyone notice a little crack from the speaker when the other person talks a bit loud or make's a loud noise? I'm wondering if there is something wrong with mine. With several tones the ear speaker cracks a little bit, like the sound is to loud or something?
Nipje said:
Hmm ok so it also went that fast on your phone? i have been using it for about an hour now and its down to about ~90% =\, concerns me a bit.
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Yep sounds about the same on my phone, dont worry about it lol
The draining thing is from the old nickel days, the lithium batteries are made for daily use so just treat the phone as you would normally. The battery will get better as time goes by.
Also I am not having that problem with the speaker
Hmm, I have my device since last week (Netherlands) and the battery usage is frightening. Sucking it dry in about 24 hours. I haven't let it die out completely though: I thought lithium batteries were not supposed to be used that way. Ni-Cad batteries were used that way.
Ah, see here:
Guidelines for prolonging lithium-ion battery life
Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted below their minimum voltage (2.4 to 2.8 V/cell, depending on chemistry). If a lithium-ion battery is stored with too low a charge, there is a risk that the charge will drop below the low-voltage threshold, resulting in an unrecoverable dead battery.[citation needed] Usually this does not instantly damage the battery itself but a charger or device which uses that battery will refuse to charge a dead battery. The battery appears to be dead or not existent because the protection circuit disables further discharging and there is zero voltage on the battery terminals.
Lithium-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator.[citation needed]
Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures.[citation needed]
[edit] Prolonging life in multiple cells through cell balancing
Analog front ends that balance cells and eliminate mismatches of cells in series or parallel significantly improve battery efficiency and increase the overall pack capacity. As the number of cells and load currents increase, the potential for mismatch also increases. There are two kinds of mismatch in the pack: state-of-charge (SOC) and capacity/energy (C/E) mismatch. Though the SOC mismatch is more common, each problem limits the pack capacity (mA·h) to the capacity of the weakest cell.
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So, if you want to brick your battery, by all means, suck out all the power.
i have a mytouch but i think the things i do can be used with all androids....first recalibrating is a good way to get a fresh battery...then the brightness also helps along with any wireless things u dont use like wifi gps etc.. they should be turned off an brightness should be low...i have downloaded a app lately called automatic task killer..i think this is better than any other task manager because other task managers dont kill apps wen phone is on standby ..apps r still running wen screen is off an automatic task killer kills them..i think u should download this and also have a task manager to kill apps wen u use the phone..another thing is charging the phone wen its completely off..wait until the the light turns green then leave it on for another hour or two then turn it back on....i have seen an increase in bettery life by doing all this...any one esle have any tips ..let me kno
Battery calibration is simply done by running it down completely until the phone shuts off by itself...
Then remove the battery, wait 10 seconds, insert again, repeat...
If the phone shuts off again in less than a few minutes you're done.
Now remove battery and hold power button for 1minute.then insert battery.dont switch on the phone. plug the charger and recharge the battery fully until the green light is on...
then remove battery,hold power button for few seconds,insert it and switch on the phone...
yes its done......
do this initially once in 3-4months when the phone is new.then ince a month after a year to gain maximum battery performance...
REMEMBER THIS WILL NOT DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE YOUR BATTERY LIFE....
BUT THIS WILL SAVES YOUR NEW ONE TO BE DEAD BEFORE AGE
DONT EXPECT MORE FOR ALREADY SWOLLEN OR DIED BATTERY...
There are programs that drain battery by endless vibration... will that do? Or we must use the phone normally until power dries?
I don't think that draining battery by endless vibration is a good idea.
You can drain it by using heavy programs like windows media player, wifi etc.
Thanks...
Thx. Calibration done!
mkcy said:
Thx. Calibration done!
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it's my pleaser.
Hi there,
I'm using P6800 and started experience abnormal on the better.
The battery warning on 15% charge, it will get flat very fast. And when reached 8%, the phone just initiate a shutdown. Had you face this problem?
1 more thing is that when the phone say full charged, once the plug pull off, it show 99%.
Mind is till virgin and unroot...
ZhenMing said:
Hi there,
I'm using P6800 and started experience abnormal on the better.
The battery warning on 15% charge, it will get flat very fast. And when reached 8%, the phone just initiate a shutdown. Had you face this problem?
1 more thing is that when the phone say full charged, once the plug pull off, it show 99%.
Mind is till virgin and unroot...
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This is normal, mine is showing the same, but still at 8% upon shut down you can still power it on several times until it reaches 0%.
lsherif said:
This is normal, mine is showing the same, but still at 8% upon shut down you can still power it on several times until it reaches 0%.
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Mine doesn't do that... If i take my tab off power i have 100% for around 5 to 10 minutes, depending on usage. Also it shuts itself off exactly on 0%. Most of the times I see 0% battery for quite a few minutes before it powers down.
what did you do to make it like that? Rooted?
I'm a rooted stock 3G
My battery stays at 100% for a bit unless i am running some heavy duty processes. However I do also experience the battery going flat very quickly after it goes below 10%. I also found that very odd, and I think it would be at 2% when it initiates the shutdown process.
I would like to hear any thoughts as well on why this might be happening
ZhenMing said:
what did you do to make it like that? Rooted?
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I didn't do anything to it. Browsing the web on wifi, 3g disabled it goes down to 0% before shutting down. When I play angry birds I can see 0% battery quite a few minutes before it shuts down.
Yes, my device is rooted.
ZhenMing said:
Hi there,
I'm using P6800 and started experience abnormal on the better.
The battery warning on 15% charge, it will get flat very fast. And when reached 8%, the phone just initiate a shutdown. Had you face this problem?
1 more thing is that when the phone say full charged, once the plug pull off, it show 99%.
Mind is till virgin and unroot...
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it's normal dude , sometime after 15% is shutting down very fast
s0r0sh said:
it's normal dude , sometime after 15% is shutting down very fast
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Shutting down on 15% would be normal for a broken battery.
My htc desire shuts down on 2-5% and I thought about sending it for repair. Unfortunately I didn't but now seeing my 7.7 can go down to 0% I think I should have. It is totally not normal for an intact battery to behave like that.
Could you please post how long your battery is lasting on average?
New Galaxy Tab 7.7 Same Battery Issue
I have the same issue with the battery, i tried root and battery calibration; nothing happens. My tablet is brand new it has less than a month.
The battery life is not bad but like other said: Battery get flat after 8%. And its shutdown but you can turn it on several times until you get a complete discharge.
What can i try to solve the problem?. It looks like a bug or software related issue.
Someone has any idea how to fix it?. Thanks!