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Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
petesavva said:
Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
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This...has been repeatedly discussed so I'll be brief. Tegra has a weird lag when in landscape (8.9 issue), Exynos does not. Display quality, if you googled the 8.9 and 7 specifications you would notice the 8.9 has more resolution than the 7 model. Today's tablets are very capable and fast for those functions you listed.
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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
In terms of raw power, any dual cor eprocessor will handle the BASIC tasks you are looking to do
In terms of Phones Exynos looks faster but i don't know how that compares to tablets
For gaming, Tablet games are more often then not optimized for the Tegra 2 platform, TegraZone games make the most out of the processor and they looks phenominal. I don't know how well Exynos does gaming on a tablet
8.9 has a higher resolution which makes videos much easier. Also the speakers on the 8.9 are really good fo a tablet. I am not picky on audio but i use it when i play Oblivion and it overpowers the tv half the time
I think the larger screen is beneficial for internet browsing. I would definitely try them both out for usability i.e. screen size and weight to see if the $70 price difference is worth going for the larger one. Personally the 8.9's size of a hardback book is perfect.
petesavva said:
thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
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The 7+ has a MicroSD slot, whereas the 8.9 does not. Besides that, it is the same beast in a different shell size. In the end it is up to you. Consider the screen resolution, portability and the size and possibly the MicroSD slot in your case. For me and my small hands 8.9 is the perfect balance, but for bigger hands, some may prefer the 10.1 for example.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I just came back from BB. Played with both machines and I have to say that the 8.9 fits my bill better.
The 7+ is great too, but it was just too small.
Thanks again!!!
I've had both.. the old 7 and the new 8.9 and I definitely like the little larger screen.. I would say the only physical improvement I could see for the 8.9 would be a little different aspect ratio.. towards the ipad.
I have the original GT7 and I just got the 8.9. While I do like the new GT, I really wish that the 7.7 was out - that sounds like the perfect tablet for my needs...
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8.9 it is! i've been playing with both 7+ and 8.9 and really like the larger one.
I wonder when ICS will come for it....
Thanks for all the replies
I'm trying them both out myself. I guess the 7in. form works for some, what with the new Fire getting the press (this is far superior to that not surprisingly!), but with this resolution it just doesn't fit my needs between a tablet and phone. I kept reading in reviews how much faster than the other tabs it was but really what I'm noticing is the increased heat you feel when its zipping along. The remote software is legitimately cool though, easy to set up, nicely designed and a pleasure to use.
The 8.9 is a definite keeper. Especially with the new Overcome kernel. It's the most beautiful android tablet I've ever used, even more comfortable and light than the iPad. I can't believe how nice the design is, I really hope the 8.9 form factor sticks with Samsung.
One important point though: Tegra 2 absolutely blows at playing HD video unless transcoded properly. This is a huge flaw with most Honeycomb tablets IMO. The 7 Plus eats any video you throw at it since it doesn't have that mediocre processor.
Can I use peel remote software from gtab 7 plus on gtab 8.9?where can I get it?
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No, as 8.9 does not have an IR port.
I've had a 7" inch HTC Flyer myself, I found it too small ( that and the screen sucks as does HTC support, but that's another discussion I guess)
I have the 8.9 now, and I love it (especially for reading, and annotating docs)
I was stuck trying to decide between the two.. I love a 7" form factor.. but I was disappointed with the 1024x600 resolution on the 7".. Loved the pixel density and ability to fit a lot more content on the 8.9".. but the 4210 Exynos SOC inside the 7 plus is night and day clock for clock against the Tegra2.
I ended up with the 7 Plus .. Best Buy has a return policy until mid-Jan (holiday return policy) so if I change my mind or some other Tablet meets my needs better I can always exchange.
The 7 Plus' hardware will provide more future proofing than Tegra2 in the long run. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 hits a home run in all aspects.. An even faster clocked 4210 at 1.4ghz.. The higher resolution 1280x800, and more pixel density due to the 7.7 screen size over a 8.9".. Not to mention the even more battery efficient Super AMOLED+ display. Otherwise, you also get a LIGHTER tablet and BIGGER battery capacity in the 7.7.
I'll definately be upgrading to it when it comes out. For now, the 7+ remains the fastest OUT-OF-THE-BOX Honeycomb tablet in existence.
Even overclocked Tegra2's can barely keep up with a 1.2ghz 4210.
I just wish there was development going on for the 7+. It's nearly non-existent because the 7+ is a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Tegra3 and faster Exynos) ... that said, a lot of people are just holding out for the next generation of tablets.
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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It's out overseas.. but not in the U.S. yet... unfortunately =( I want to get my hands on one.
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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Europe for sure.. not sure about the rest... There's a lot of English blokes talking about their 7.7 here and there.
Hello all
I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
Do what i'm doing. Go to Sams club buy yourself a 32 gb nexus 7 use it for up to 90 days, return it and try the nexus 10 same way.
Only you can answer this really it completely depends on tour usage. I don't think it will be superior its just different. They are both nexus and both very high end devicea
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Do what i'm doing. Go to Sams club buy yourself a 32 gb nexus 7 use it for up to 90 days, return it and try the nexus 10 same way.
Only you can answer this really it completely depends on tour usage. I don't think it will be superior its just different. They are both nexus and both very high end devicea
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Cool idea but I'm in the UK and not sure if any of the stores over here do that.
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Nexus 10 will probably be the "better" tablet but it really depends on what you want. If you want to carry your tablet around everywhere then the Nexus 7 is probably a better choice. If it's going to stay at home most of the time then Nexus 10. If you're going to be watching a lot of movies then Nexus 10 is better. For reading books Nexus 7.
Nexus 7
-Small form factor (easy to carry around, very portable)
-Smaller form factor also makes it great for gaming
-Good for reading eBooks
Nexus 10
-Beautiful screen (great for videos and games)
-Better hardware
I'm waiting for a truck load of reviews.. One review I read already puts me in the `not buying' category.. I don't trust Samsumg with tablets.. They have a good track record with throwing awesome hardware into a tablet and having it perform like a Celeron trying to run Windows Vista with 512MB of RAM. I already have one 10 inch paperweight of theirs.. I'm not looking for another.
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Nexus 10 will probably be the "better" tablet but it really depends on what you want. If you want to carry your tablet around everywhere then the Nexus 7 is probably a better choice. If it's going to stay at home most of the time then Nexus 10. If you're going to be watching a lot of movies then Nexus 10 is better. For reading books Nexus 7.
Nexus 7
-Small form factor (easy to carry around, very portable)
-Smaller form factor also makes it great for gaming
-Good for reading eBooks
Nexus 10
-Beautiful screen (great for videos and games)
-Better hardware
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Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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Glennfoot said:
Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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The N7 is a show stopper considering the price.. The N10 has (imo) A LOT to live up to considering it's twice as much as the N7.. For double the price I sure as hell better be getting more than 3inches of screen, 400mhz and Antutu scores that ring in 4000 points lower than my N7 along with other benchmarks that are worse than my N7.. I'm 35 and well beyond buying junk for material reasons and it's looking like the N10 is going to be just that.
Glennfoot said:
Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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While I cannot speak for the Nexus 10, I do own the Nexus 7 and believe the light weight and form factor to be its greatest strengths. I used to own an iPad 3, but sold it after getting the Nexus 7. The iPad always felt a little too big and heavy for use at home. In many instances I simply used my laptop/PC instead. The 7" form factor is perfect for browsing the web, reading eBooks, watching 720p movies, etc. while on the go or moving around the house.
Also, the one concern I would have in regards to the Nexus 10 are the applications themselves. From my experience with the N7, many apps on the Play market are not tablet optimized. There are basically many apps that are essentially made for phones that are blown up to fit the Nexus 7. It does not look too bad on a 7" screen, but I can only imagine phone apps being a complete waste of space on a 10" tablet. I think in time Android will get more tablet specific apps though.
Well you already have a 10 inch tablet so why not add a 7 incher to your stable? The portability and light weight of the nexus 7 really adds to its usefulness and ease of use. Reading a few reviews of the n10 is a good idea though before making your decision.
Not to encourage greed, but if this is going to be a gift then you might want to opt for the more valuable n10.
I would suggest asking this in the Nexus 10 forums too, just to get their point of view. Overall , you're going to get a bias opinion in the Nexus 7 forums and the Nexus 10 forums,just spread it out a bit.
I would suggest the N7 for its price, HD screen and form factor. It handles anything (that's optimised, **** you gameloft) you throw at it and doubles as an eReader and gaming device. The N10 is undoubtedly better for watching moves with its retina crushing 2560 x 1600 resolution screen and browsing the web, however for £130 less the N7 does that just as well. The N7 has served me well for the last 4 months or so, it lasts me a full days usage and I use it heavily as I travel a lot. My usages contains reading, albeit I a small amount, gaming, browsing, music, IRC, Text based games and watching videos. It'll survive about 6 hours screen time with full brightness and wifi.
Thank you all for your advice, I am fairly certain it will be the N7. It will be a gift and also a replacement for the iPad. I look forward to coming back to this forum when start flashing those ROM's.
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Finally made my decision, N10 is on its way, had confirmation of shipping last night.
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I love the 7...sticking with it
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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Sensamic said:
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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Well you need to check your priorities. Before the nexus 7 I always thought a bigger tablet would be always better. I enjoy more the nexus 7 cause i usae it to read a lot, and the nexus 10 is kinda big to read comfortably, and it's heavy, the nexus 7 is comapct and a great tablet to read check your mail, browse the web and etc...
buut, if you use it like a notebook, with bluetooth keyboard to write documents, or to play games with a bluetooth controller ( that's great) and that kinda stuff the nexus 10 is a better choice.
Today i wouldn't trade my nexus 7 for a nexus 10.
I did (but selling the N10 2 months before the new Nexus 7 became available). I am very happy with the switch. For all intents and purposes, the Nexus 7 took the Nexus 10's soft touch feel and made the screen brighter. It really comes down to a question of style. Do you like the size of magazines and 8x10 notebooks more than the size of hardcover novels and day planners.
Another upside is, if you don't like the Nexus 7, it looks like the Nexus 10 is getting a revision this fall with a much faster processor (and that tablet release will reduce the resale value of the original Nexus 10 just as the original Nexus 7 prices fell with the new one.
What I now want post N7 is a top notch 4.0-4.3" phone (HTC First sized + microSD).
Sensamic said:
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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I feel like a powerful home computer, 7 inch tablet, and an LTE smartphone is the best setup you can have.
A ten inch tablet is just too big to be used comfortably around the house. I used to use the iPad 2 a couple years back as my main media consumption device but switched to the OG Nexus 7 on release day. I recently upgraded to the new Nexus 7 and don't plan on switching to anything larger than 8.9 inches.
If I were you I would pick up a 32Gb and see how you like it. If it's not for you then return it and keep your Nexus 10. If you like it then keep it and sell the Nexus 10.
Either way the N10 and N7 are both great tabs you can't go wrong with.
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I'm wondering if I should sell my iPad 3 for the the nexus . iOS is just boring .
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That's a decision only you can make, honestly! You know what your wants and needs are, we don't. I just bought my '13 Nexus 7 last night from my local Best Buy. That said, I still have and still love my Asus Infinity (10" tablet) and I definitely would NOT sell it! I also have an Evo LTE and a Note 2, but wanted a 7" tablet as well. I was going to buy the Nexus 7 at the first of the year, but heard rumors that an HD version was in the works so I waited for it. I'll still use my Asus Infinity as my primary gaming tablet, played Dead Trigger last night actually. Paired with the Sixaxis app and a PS3 controller, it can't be beat! Especially with its mini HDMI port built in to the side and hooked to me 55" LED TV!! I do like that the Nexus 7 is more portable, and will also use it to read my Google Play Magazine subscriptions. No way I could give up my 10" tablet though! If i had to decide between the 2, I'd take back my Nexus 7 and keep my Infinity, no doubt about it! With the ability to have both though, the Nexus 7 is a nice addition to my Android line-up!! If I were you, and had to decide between the 2, then I'd keep the Nexus 10! That's just MY opinion based on my wants/needs though. That's why I say that only you can decide which device fits your wants/needs the best! Good luck with your decision!!
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In a word: No.
I have both the N10 and the N7.
The N10 is a better consumption device. The larger screen is better for watching videos, playing games, browsing the web, reading ebooks - you can fit two pages on it at a time- and you can view magazine pages better on it.
The N7 is more portable. You can hold it with one hand.
The screen on the new nexus 7 is really sharp, I can't tell a difference in reading text on it versus the 10. That combined with the better form factor makes the N10 obsolete for me personally. I don't really think Android (or iOS for that matter) is suited for a 10" screen. Sure it helps if you are watching videos but if I'm watching something for longer than 15 mins I will usually just use my Laptop or TV.
The only thing I miss from the nexus 10 was the TRUE rubber back. The new nexus 7 doesn't really compare to the soft touch of the back cover on the N10.
If you vastly prefer the 10" screen though I would recommend selling anyway, that way you can get a nice chunk of change back to purchase the new nexus 10, which will apparently have a qualcomm in it, none of the exynos bull****.
I think you just being hypnotized by the newness of a new nexus, I am feeling this even though pound for pound my note 10.1 is better, but I will say this, the nexus 7 is a very comfortable and portable device
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Sensamic said:
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
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I'm with you 100%. I bought the 10 but am going to return it. Other than watching movies, I just don't think 16x10 works for a tablet that big. It's awkward to hold and despite being a huge screen I'm always feeling squeezed and wishing it were 4x3.
I find myself using the 7 more. The only time the 10 wins out is if I'm sitting on the couch and can comfortably rest the 10 on my lap. But as soon as I lie down, move around, etc I am reaching for the 7. I don't love 16x7 on the 7 either but its easy enough to hold and type that the length doesn't hinder usability.
If you could I would do both! I have a n10 and note 8. I mainly use the 8 to travel or take it to work and it fits nicely in my glove compartment. My n10 stays at home and is used to play music, games, watch videos and a huge remote for my TV. Some people might think its too much but I find it perfect for my needs. Ohh and I also have a note 2!!! Thinking of picking up the new n7 for the wife.
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guess u can play games easily and good in enw nexus 7! its snap dragon s4pro
It's a hard choice. I like bigger screen tablets because I don't have a laptop, but I've been thinking of changing to another tablet for some months now, just because the Nexus 10 is too uncomfortable to use.
That's the only reason. The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
Don't know what to do. I won't buy another 10 inch tablet because all of them have the same aspect ratio, so the only choices are keep the Nexus 10 or buy the 7.
It has to be a Nexus tablet obviously.
I had a nexus 10 back I. December/January that I returned. I like it a lot but I couldn't justify it since I already had a nexus 7. My other complaint was the colors and view angles. I hope the next nexus 10 has the same type of panel as this new nexus 7. This panel is literally perfect.
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The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
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x100.
I tried browsing the web last night with my N7v2, and the screen was just too small. I had to zoom in every time to accurately click on links or the "Next" button on forums.
I will be returning the N7v2 in about a week though - it's a fun toy and all, but I much prefer my N10.
It's funny because I used to agree with the majority of the posters here, about how the N10 is too uncomfortable to hold. I first bought the N7v1 and thought it was perfect to hold. Then I gave it away. Then I bought an N10 and first thought it was too awkward and cumbersome to hold - but after using it for a few days, I got used to it. I also much preferred the larger screen for everything - gaming, quick YouTube videos, browsing the internet - what I mostly do with it. Reading magazines is a pleasure with the 10 inch screen of the N10, but it's way too small for the N7v2.
The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
Just my opinion though.
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The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
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I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
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I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
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I too find that the nexus 7 v1 feels better in hand than the second one, the second one feels too slippery, like its gonna fall of my hands.
But except that I prefer the v 2
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The thing I don't like about the n10 is that a lot of phone apps force you to turn it in portrait. Blatantly obvious that it doesn't thrive in portrait.
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I guess if i were you , i would wait for refreshed nexus 10 coming by october/november.
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I'm not too much interested in the next one because it probably will be the same size and aspect ratio as the original Nexus 10, which is my only problem with the tablet: 16:10 aspect ratio is uncomfortable.
That's why I was thinking maybe the Nexus 7 would be better, but I'm still not sure.
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Hello,
I am currently considering to buy either 1st or 2nd generation manufacturer refurbished Nexus 7.
I am estimating that the lowest price I can probably get for 2nd gen manufacturer refurb 16GB Nexus 7 is about 180 (220 probably for 32GB)
Whereas, 32GB refurb Nexus 7 is sold only for around 150 in Ebay these days.
In one word, 2nd gen is definitely a better tablet whereas 1st gen is a better tablet for price (I think).
So...
1. Is Nexus7 1st gen really that horrible?
I have heard lots of complaints about 1st gen N7's hardware.
People claimed that Tegra3 sucks and it lags (Does it lag more than GS3), display has horrible color saturation and color tone, and Tablet itself is too thick compared to 2nd Gen.
But... is it that horrible? (I am especially concerned with the performance part)
2. Does 2nd gen N7 worth the money
Well it costs about $70 more on Ebay.
Do you think it worth the money?
(in some sense, it is 50% more expansive then its 1st gen version)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Have a nice day!
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Also, do you think if I get a 16GB version of N7, do you think I will eventually regret due to lack of storage?
Believe me, buy the 2nd gen.
$70 difference is not that much if you can save a bit.
Suppose it's $10 I spend for lunch, I will not have lunch for 7 days and buy the 2nd gen
Yes it is worth it. Screen resolution, physical size, and internal hardware are all big improvements over the 1st gen. If you can spring for the 32GB over the 16GB definitely do so. I have a 16GB and kind of wish I had sprung for the 32GB.
Yeah dude go with the 2nd. 1.8xCPU 4xGPU. And your going to miss out on this beautiful display (which is the main reason I decided to even buy a tablet)
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The 2nd gen machine is the machine the first gen machine should've been.
2nd gen definitely, with the 32gb. The build quality and crisp screen are worth it alone imo. It has a really nice feel. The only reason I say go for the higher memory is because, if you get a 16gb one, you're only going to have about 8gb of free space. Enough for some, but not for me. Better to have more than not enough imo...
I love mine so much im buying another (lte version when available) ^_^
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Yes go with the 2013 version. :thumbup:
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This type of debate has been going on for a huge amount of threads, but yes, you should go for the new Nexus. Power, display, camera, speed performance, to name just a few. Plus, many flaws erased(though there's no denying the new flaws )
2013, definitely. (Is it unanimous yet?)
Just get the 32gb 2nd generation. Why would you buy an outdated device?
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If you can afford it Go with the 2nd generation.
the performance and screen quality is like Day and night.
this tablet will keep for a long time.
In short, the N7 2 is snappier, thinner, great display, and has a rear camera.
I'm hoping JB 4.3 helps the performance of the 1st Gen N7... it just doesn't manage resources as well. Both are plastic, so build quality is about the same, the gen 2 wins out since it's a little thinner and narrower which seems a little more natural in hand. The displays are small, but again the 2nd has a higher resolution... But only a side-by-side comparison would reveal the difference. Alone both displays are really nice.
I really missed the rear camera. With my Flyer, I had the option to integrate handwritten notes and whiteboard snapshots. The N7 without the rear camera was obviously awkward in those situations. The N7 2 makes it less awkward and makes the tablet a companion into meetings again. Still miss a digitizer for accurate handwritten notes, but I'm hoping this device has better support from the community. Photosphere is cool, and 5MP is plenty for what I need.
As for memory, both support OTG. I use Dropbox extensively. They wireless card readers, but I find hardwired OTG faster and more compact... Unless sharing content with others in which case the wireless card reader is great.
I'm looking for a good BT keyboard and seriously considering the LTE version when released.
It is defenitely worth it.
The 1st gen Nexus 7 is suffering on major slowdowns due to the slow cpu/gpu. Even the Exynos 4 in the S3 is faster.
If you play Gameloft games, you will notice this.
Tegra 3 optimized games are fine though but most non-Tegra optimized games are laggy.
Also, the OpenGL ES 3.0 capability of the Adreno 320 should give you some extra graphic effects in supported games.
Next awesome CPU will be Tegra 4, but the Tegra 3 can already get sent to pension.
Get the new one. Hands down it's better.
Does the 2nd generation Nexus 7 worth the money compared to the 1st generation?
Thank you Guys As I had the similar kind of post going on ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45110121#post45110121
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For a better screen and faster CPU. Why not?
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It all depends on how much you're willing to spend.
I returned my 32 GB 2013 N7 because it just wasn't worth $270 to me. Small tablets are really cheap now, and personally I wouldn't spend more than $150 for one anymore.
Then I bought a 32 GB 2012 N7 for $100 in mint condition from Swappa (take a look, the good deals are out there!) and I'm quite happy with that.
I'm about to sell my Nexus 10 to buy a smaller tablet. The Nexus 10 is great but it's too big to use comfortably daily. Playing games is almost impossible and holding the tablet in portrait it's too uncomfortable.
I've narrowed it down to the new Nexus 7 or the upcoming LG G Pad 8.3. I prefer the LG because 8 inches seems to be the perfect screen size for gaming, video playback, web browsing and PDF reading.
The Nexus 7 has great price, updates, great stock experience and it's already available. But I feel I would get tired of the small screen too quickly. Reading PDFs would be almost impossible, as well as web browsing.
I've been thinking about it for days and still can't decide.
Do you guys that own the Nexus 7 feel the screen is too small after a few months with it? I'll be using the new tablet at home always. I think the LG is great because it's the first 8 inch tablet with 1080P screen. The snapdragon 600 inside is also better and the battery is bigger also, but I know I wouldn't get updates. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if the tablet works for me. I think I could keep an 8 inch tablet longer than a 7.
No. In fact I think the size is perfect. Its wide enough to hold in one hand comfortably (portrait). It fits in my front jeans pocket (barely). Big enough to do whatever on.
The N7 uses an under clocked S600. It has updated cores and GPU. I don't know why they called it an S4 Pro. So speed wise you will see very little difference.
LG never supports their products. It will probably come out with 4.2.2 just as we're getting 4.4. They have horrible update schedules. You're lucky to get one OS update before EOL. Development on them are also lacking. They usually come locked without an easy way to unlock. The LG G2 is rooted by a special method but remains locked.
It will probably never see an update past 4.4
I wouldn't pick a LG device unless I gave it several months to settle and see where it ends up with updates and dev. They make some great hardware but really botch up the software and support. The G2 seems like a great phone out of the box but will be left in the dust in a few months. Take your chances with their tablet but think about one thing:
How well will you like it in a year when the N7 has the latest and greatest Android (5.0?) and cool ROMs and mods, and you're stuck on an iffy modified stock rom with no support?
I left the Nexus line once, and it was rough.
The 7" is very nice because you want to downsize for toting. It fits easier into your coat pockets and lighter. 7 and 8 inches aren't that different unless you are comparing. Standalone you won't even notice the difference.
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Actually the N7's 7 inch display isn't too small for PDF and web browsing. Given its retina grade PPI, words are crisp even when they are zoomed out. I've been using it for my classes which I read PDF PowerPoint slides on daily basis, and I am happy with it. :good:
7 inch is also the largest you can get for comfortable 1 hand use with portrait mode. 8 inch tablets has to be held with 2 hands even in portrait.
You lay down, put tablet on your belly. Can be held with one hand...
So size doesn't matter.
Reading? n7 is good... No more headaches.
Oh well go with n7 and next year maybe a nexus8 will come out.
It sounds like you've answered your own question, you find 7" tablets to small. Both are excellent tablets, you can't really go wrong with either of them.
I've not used a Nexus 7 but have used a Galaxy Tab 2 7" and I thought the size was great for what it was, small, pocketable but 7" tablets are rather small for day to day use (they're fine for reading PDFs though, Kindles are even smaller).
Personally I find 10" tablets to big.
For me the iPad Mini is pretty much the perfect tablet size but Apple products interest me not. I was interested in the Galaxy Tab 3 8" but oddly for Samsung their Galaxy Tab specs are low. I understand both the Galaxy Tab 3 8" and LG G Pad 8.3 are roughly the same size and crucially aspect ratio as the iPad Mini.
It's the wider nature of 8" tablets that interest me and of course the LG G Pad 8.3 is a much better tablet than the Galaxy Tab 3 8".
Sure I doubt LG will upgrade the version of Android much (if at all), their track record is poor but you know what Android 4.2.2 is already a decent version of Android and it's not as if Android 4.3/4.4 add much.
Yes not getting Android 5.0 (possibly) would irk me but it's all about the size and aspect ratio with a tablet for me and 8" tablets are the "sweet spot". Plus I like the look of QSlide, it doesn't look as useful as Samsung's Multi-Window but is the next best thing. Being able to display two apps at once on a tablet is genuinely useful.
p.s - IMO this whole phones/tablets not getting the latest Android version is overrated, you've still bought a decent product (hopefully) and the past few Android upgrades have been minor anyway. Android 4.0 came out 2 years ago!
Reading is amazing especially with Play Books on N7
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I think the LG is better. But nobosy knows when it will be released..
I had the Nexus 7(2013) and returned it because of the nonfunctional GPS and random reboot issues. From what I understand, the GPS now works, but the reboot issues persist, and some still complain of multitouch issues.
I've got the LG G2 and it's the best phone I've ever owned. With that said, I'm looking forward to the G Pad. The Q-Pair software looks really slick, in that you can tether to your phone(supposedly any Android phone) for a data connection with one click. It will also send and receive texts and phone calls from a connected phone.
As to the comments about one handed use, the G Pad is a hair under 1/2" wider than the Nexus 7, thanks to the thin bezel. LG supposedly studied average hand sizes to come up with comfortable overall dimensions.
I'd say if you want the bleeding edge latest-greatest version of Android, and can live with the smaller screen, Asus build quality, and random reboots, go with the Nexus 7.
If you don't mind slow or no software updates, but want a bigger screen, most likely superior build quality, and hopefully no random reboots, go with the G Pad 8.3. That said, I'd still wait for it to hit the market to see if any serious issues surface.
I'm in the same situation as you. I currently have the nexus 7 and love the screen quality and all. It's good for reading super small texts but I've always felt like 8 inch screen was the perfect size. I'm waiting to see when the lg comes out and the price. If it's $299, that's a bargain and I'm probably gonna sell my nexus 7 and get the LG. I'm not too worried about software with the LG because I know I'm gonna end up rooting it and installing AOSP on it eventually.
Also I feel like the nexus 7 doesn't have a great build quality. my nexus 7 most likely has a grounding issue (ie: I have touches not registering when I place it flat on my bed or table) but who knows maybe lg will have the same problem. I would say wait for lg to come out, play with it, then make your decision
LG is terrible with releasing updates for their products. I'd actually wait a bit to see if the dev community does anything for it. I had a phone from them that they basically stopped doing updates for a month after it was released, rendering it useless. I had bought it on the basis that they were going to release an update for it, and after a year, they didn't.
My Nexus 7 2013 have been great, and have neither multitouch or random reboot issues. If the Gpad can be rooted/unlocked/restored as easily as Nexus 7 and have a Dev community just as large I might consider it. Otherwise I prefer the Nexus 7.
I have an N7 2013 running PA to get the Tablet UI, which I feel works much better than Phablet mode (lots more real estate).
I do feel the N7 bezels are a waste and would much prefer an 8" tablet with much smaller bezels. I had an iPad mini before the N7 (my wife has it now!) and as much as iOS is boring, it worked much better as a tablet in terms of its size. So I'm thinking the LG would close that gap.
Like others, however, I feel it would need to be BL unlockable to make the switch. I have hope only because it's a WiFi only device, thus no carriers to be beholden to.
LG G Pad 8.3 to be available October 14th in Korea and other markets by the end of the year.
Price: 510$.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
I love the new N7. I just got rid of my iPad 3, it was big and of course boring. I'm not experiencing any of those issues, I rooted and unlocked it straight outta the box, still running stock ROM. It's great for web browsing and everything else of course. I personally think this is the best tablet on the market. You can't go wrong with price, usability and support from Google and XDA.
For on the go, I like the 2013 N7. My 2012 got really laggy even after the update. There are a few bugs still with the touch response, but its better now. Ill still use an iPad 3 at home, mainly because the wife prefers Apple. The LG looks like it could be nice, but not for the rumor prices.
It's really about the tradeoff you want to make. The new N7 is great and it wins where Nexus devices win: frequent updates, freedom to flash and competitive pricing. If you're a person (like me) who likes to muck about a lot, there's no alternative. With non-Nexus devices, I think you have to ask yourself if you're potentially comfortable with that device as-is for the entire time you own it. If it never got a new feature or the newest OS base and the like, would you be satisfied with the purchase? If you feel good saying yes to that, it sounds to me like the screen size is a big feature for you, so I'd go that way. If you're putting your faith in an OEM to fix or improve software, there's history to support the conclusion that you will generally be disappointed, as a rule of thumb. Just go into the purchase with your eyes open to that likely scenario and you'll be fine.
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Today I went to a store to try again the Nexus 7 and I think I'm sold. Great screen, great materials, very nice to hold with one hand, stock android, etc. Then I tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 and they felt heavier and my hand got tired much quickly than with the Nexus 7. Screen was not that bad, but comparing touchwiz to stock on the Nexus 7 showed me again stock is better for a tablet.
I'm not gonna wait for the LG. Will try the Nexus 7 for a week and see how that goes.
Fistly, for comparing, we must try in hand G8.
I bought a month ago N7 lte, and now thinking to try G8, and if it will be the same in tactical feelings i prefer 8 inch vs 7 inch.
10 inches is big for mobility, 7 - small for reading. 8 - best compromise.
And of course, price is one more important factor.
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
This tablet is great. Bought it today to replace my Nexus 10, which is a great tablet but I just can't use it comfortably holding it for hours. Too heavy and big. Playing games was impossible, as doing almost everything else.
I wasn't quite sure about 7 inches, but after a couple of hours playing with the device I can say it's great. It's AWESOME being able to hold the tablet with one hand for long periods of time without problems.
The screen is even better than the one in my Nexus 10: more bright and better colors. It just pops out.
The performance is great also. It may be slightly slightly faster and more fluid. It's great having such a good GPU: the adreno 320. I've gotalso more RAM available now, since with the Nexus 10 we were losing more and more RAM with every update Google released. They were giving more memory to the GPU and in the end I only had 500MB free. Now I have 1,2GB! This is after all apps installed and everything obviously.
It's so light and comfortable. In the end this is the most important feature.
I'm super impressed with the quality of the speakers! So loud and clear! I got the 32GB model for 249. Great price.
I can definitely see that Google has put more care in the software performance of this device than on the Nexus 10. Performance is consistent, no lags, no reboots or freezes for now. Even touch response is better than on the Nexus 10. Trust me.
I can finally play games comfortably and do everything without having to hold in my hands such a huge tablet. No more 9 inch tablets or bigger for me thanks. Even 8 inches seems big now. I actually tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 on the store before buying the Nexus 7 and they weren't as comfortable to hold as the Nexus 7. The plastic was horrible and it slips out of my hands. Touchwiz didn't perform half as quick and smooth as stock on the Nexus 7.
This is the best experience I've had with Android definitely. Can't imaging how Google will be able to improve this hardware anymore in the next versions. The materials are excellent, screen can't be better, loud speakers... and I'm even getting great battery life.
Now just waiting for 4.4. So happy right now. Selling my Nexus 10 this week.
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That's the conversion price. you can't go off of that because the US price will be different from the won price. example: the note 8 has the same won price as the lg g pad but only costed $400 in the US. the ipad mini was 640,000 won (vs 650,000 for note 8 and lg g pad) and only costed $329 in the US. only way to tell the true cost will be to wait until they release that info for the US, which is after South Korea so next!