hey guys .i just pre-ordered htc one developer edition.what do you think i get the benefits purchasing the developer edition instead of at&t version.
do you think it works with at&t and t-mobile lte networks ?
will i get the software upgrades first like the international version ?
normally the at&t version device get upgrades very late compared to the international version devices.i always wanted to buy a device which works on every kind of gsm networks(hspa+,4g and lte ) in usa and internationally(3g,4g and lte).and which gets the software upgrades right on time .i thought this would be the one .
someone clarify me the choice i made was right
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sush143555 said:
hey guys .i just pre-ordered htc one developer edition.what do you think i get the benefits purchasing the developer edition instead of at&t version.
do you think it works with at&t and t-mobile lte networks ?
will i get the software upgrades first like the international version ?
normally the at&t version device get upgrades very late compared to the international version devices.i always wanted to buy a device which works on every kind of gsm networks(hspa+,4g and lte ) in usa and internationally(3g,4g and lte).and which gets the software upgrades right on time .i thought this would be the one .
someone clarify me the choice i made was right
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If you want non bloated att software, possibly faster updates, and bootloader unlockable.
Lte will work for both networks.
Updates will probably be quicker due to the fact that there is NO carrier testing. So updates should be fast as the international version.
Sure why not!
There is an entire thread dedicated to this. The dev edition had an unlocked bootloader and SIM. It will only function on AT&T correctly at the moment, but later this year tmobile should have enough of their lte and refarmed hspa network up for it to work properly on there.
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sush143555 said:
hey guys .i just pre-ordered htc one developer edition.what do you think i get the benefits purchasing the developer edition instead of at&t version.
do you think it works with at&t and t-mobile lte networks ?
will i get the software upgrades first like the international version ?
normally the at&t version device get upgrades very late compared to the international version devices.i always wanted to buy a device which works on every kind of gsm networks(hspa+,4g and lte ) in usa and internationally(3g,4g and lte).and which gets the software upgrades right on time .i thought this would be the one .
someone clarify me the choice i made was right
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The benefit of the Developer Edition is the unlocked bootloader (allows you to use custom ROM), and the unlocked sim (which ATT won't unlock for you even if you buy outright).
Since it is a non-branded handset, it should allow you to upgrade your software like the international version, although this is not as important if you use custom ROMs (since Custom ROMs usually updates as new software is released).
The Developer Edition will work perfectly with AT&T for HSPA and LTE as it is identical besides the branding and unlocked status. It will likely work with T-Mobile's LTE when it's ready but will not work with the 1700mhz HSPA+ network. It may however work in areas where T-Mobile uses 850/1900 frequency (Not everywhere at the moment)
So in terms of advantage over ATT version, the Developer Edition is much much better as it allows you to use customs ROMs (since you are here asking the question, I would assume custom ROM is something you would like to use). SIM unlock is not important to everyone as most will stay with the network anyways, but the lack of custom ROM ability flat out makes it the less desired version.
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The benefit of the Developer Edition is the unlocked bootloader (allows you to use custom ROM), and the unlocked sim (which ATT won't unlock for you even if you buy outright).
Since it is a non-branded handset, it should allow you to upgrade your software like the international version, although this is not as important if you use custom ROMs (since Custom ROMs usually updates as new software is released).
The Developer Edition will work perfectly with AT&T for HSPA and LTE as it is identical besides the branding and unlocked status. It will likely work with T-Mobile's LTE when it's ready but will not work with the 1700mhz HSPA+ network. It may however work in areas where T-Mobile uses 850/1900 frequency (Not everywhere at the moment)
So in terms of advantage over ATT version, the Developer Edition is much much better as it allows you to use customs ROMs (since you are here asking the question, I would assume custom ROM is something you would like to use). SIM unlock is not important to everyone as most will stay with the network anyways, but the lack of custom ROM ability flat out makes it the less desired version.
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ya am not much into the custom rom thing .am just looking for the option to use it on at&t and t-mobile and faster updates .
sush143555 said:
ya am not much into the custom rom thing .am just looking for the option to use it on at&t and t-mobile and faster updates .
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Well, you asked the questions and I answered them for you (the differences should be black and white for you). Whether or not if it's the right decision is up to you.
32gb or 64GB? Worth the extra cash?
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The benefit of the Developer Edition is the unlocked bootloader (allows you to use custom ROM), and the unlocked sim (which ATT won't unlock for you even if you buy outright).
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Hi:
I know this thread is about the dev edition but I was wondering if there's any other difference between the 32gb and 64gb dev edition? I know the dev edition has unlocked bootloader, but couldn't we achieve the same thing on the 32gb unlocked edition using this method (htcdev), or am I wrong? Thanks for your help :fingers-crossed:
gaps07 said:
Hi:
I know this thread is about the dev edition but I was wondering if there's any other difference between the 32gb and 64gb dev edition? I know the dev edition has unlocked bootloader, but couldn't we achieve the same thing on the 32gb unlocked edition using this method (htcdev), or am I wrong? Thanks for your help :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, it can be unlocked via HTC Dev. Only the AT&T branded devices will be blocked.
Edit: according to your post title, you're asking if dev edition is worth the extra money? YES. Not even $100 more for double the storage.
You can unlock yes. Your getting a extra 32 GB basically
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dizzyraider said:
The benefit of the Developer Edition is the unlocked bootloader (allows you to use custom ROM), and the unlocked sim (which ATT won't unlock for you even if you buy outright).
Since it is a non-branded handset, it should allow you to upgrade your software like the international version, although this is not as important if you use custom ROMs (since Custom ROMs usually updates as new software is released).
The Developer Edition will work perfectly with AT&T for HSPA and LTE as it is identical besides the branding and unlocked status. It will likely work with T-Mobile's LTE when it's ready but will not work with the 1700mhz HSPA+ network. It may however work in areas where T-Mobile uses 850/1900 frequency (Not everywhere at the moment)
So in terms of advantage over ATT version, the Developer Edition is much much better as it allows you to use customs ROMs (since you are here asking the question, I would assume custom ROM is something you would like to use). SIM unlock is not important to everyone as most will stay with the network anyways, but the lack of custom ROM ability flat out makes it the less desired version.
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So the dev version doesn't have custom roms, or very little custom roms? If so why would that be? I love flashing roms, but this would be a real bummer.
Nevermind...I read it incorrectly. The Dev version does have custom roms. How are the custom roms different on a dev phone than lets say the sprint version?
saco274 said:
So the dev version doesn't have custom roms, or very little custom roms? If so why would that be? I love flashing roms, but this would be a real bummer.
Nevermind...I read it incorrectly. The Dev version does have custom roms. How are the custom roms different on a dev phone than lets say the sprint version?
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The Sprint version of the phone has different hardware as it is a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone. You could potentially brick your phone by flashing ROMS that aren't for your specific device. Stick to this forum for your mods and ROMS/kernels.
Make sure that you install a recovery (CWM or TWRP, both located in the Original Android Development section), which is necessary before you begin to flash anything. Again, ONLY FLASH MODS FOR OUR DEVICE FROM THIS FORUM
this might not the right place to ask this, but does anyone know if HTC will be releasing a developer edition in black?
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I'm frustrated with the locked bootloader and lack of developer interest and no Ant+ on the latest update so I am going to buy a phone that does not annoy me. Note 3 is my leading choice but I am also considering the Xperia Z Ultra Google Play Edition.
Right now, I've got more money than time. I have tons of good paying work backed up and I would rather pay for what I want than try to stay one step ahead of some carrier's control issues / bloatware.
I'm on AT&T with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Don't really need LTE but will take it if it makes no difference. I do want at least HSPDA.
I'm willing to shell out the full cash price for an unlocked phone with an unlocked bootloader. What I really want is a phone that will get timely updates from the manufacturer and won't try to shove a locked bootloader down my throat later. It would also be fantastic if I could get a USA warranty in the deal but I can live without that.
So is there a significant "hacker friendliness" difference between the various models? If I give up AT&T LTE frequencies for the international version, what am I getting in return (besides the obvious international frequencies)?
Thanks for your time,
David
DJ_smooth said:
If I give up AT&T LTE frequencies for the international version, what am I getting in return (besides the obvious international frequencies)?
David
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A limited unlocked bootloader if you choose the N9005. The N9005 has the better development options -
However, the N900w8 (Canadian/Mexican model) has a complete unlocked BL for upgrade/downgrade 4.3/4.4. - Runs most, if not all N9005 ROMS also. - Probably your better option IMO at least -
N900T - T-Mobile similar to the N9005 but BL cannot be downgraded as freely as the N900w8
You will have to sacrifice LTE though, but as you said you aren't fussed about LTE - you should still receive 3G/H+ without issues.
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A limited unlocked bootloader if you choose the N9005. The N9005 has the better development options -
However, the N900w8 (Canadian/Mexican model) has a complete unlocked BL for upgrade/downgrade 4.3/4.4. - Runs most, if not all N9005 ROMS also. - Probably your better option IMO at least -
N900T - T-Mobile similar to the N9005 but BL cannot be downgraded as freely as the N900w8
You will have to sacrifice LTE though, but as you said you aren't fussed about LTE - you should still receive 3G/H+ without issues.
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Why would you want to downgrade the boot loader, to be able to switch to a rom that depends on an older kernel / bootloader? Or is there some other reason?
Thanks,
David
DJ_smooth said:
Why would you want to downgrade the boot loader, to be able to switch to a rom that depends on an older kernel / bootloader? Or is there some other reason?
Thanks,
David
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At first most wanted to due to CM being incompatible, however now that CM runs on the new bootloader most don't want to. - The few remaining I guess prefer 4.3 due to different errors they have had or problems on/due to 4.4.2
This is really confusing. Most of the threads are written such that 'how to root while updating to OF2/OF3'...it doesn't tell me which versions allow rooting in the first place? Any help. Coming from the GS3
As far as I know, the S5 Active is only available as an AT&T phone, which means it will have a locked bootloader and any somewhat newer firmwares will be unrootable. Pre-lollipop builds (Anything below OF2) are rootable but still have a locked bootloader.
Just a word from the wise, don't get an S5 Active, and DEFINITELY don't get an AT&T phone. a GS5 (regular) with a thin case (Spigen slim armor or neo-hybrid/ otterbox commuter) will be WAY more durable anyway, plus it's still waterproof/dustproof.
Get yourself a G900T (T-Mobile variant), or a G900AZ (Cricket wireless variant --Cricket is a subsidiary of at&t--), or even a G900F. Those all have unlocked bootloaders and will allow you to root, install custom recovery, custom roms, whatever you want forever. I personally have a G900T using it on AT&T with no issues, as the G900T supports all the same frequencies (and an extra one!) as the G900A (AT&T model). The G900F doesn't support every single band AT&T uses, so I would pick one of the other two if you want 100% compatibility.
MAKE SURE if you buy a G900T or G900AZ that it is UNLOCKED or you won't be able to use it. And after you get it, you'll have to call AT&T support and give them the new phone's IMEI number in order for LTE to work.
Hope what I said makes sense..
FYI The best place to buy a phone is always (XDA's own..) Swappa!
https://swappa.com/
Sean89us said:
As far as I know, the S5 Active is only available as an AT&T phone, which means it will have a locked bootloader and any somewhat newer firmwares will be unrootable. Pre-lollipop builds (Anything below OF2) are rootable but still have a locked bootloader.
Just a word from the wise, don't get an S5 Active, and DEFINITELY don't get an AT&T phone. a GS5 (regular) with a thin case (Spigen slim armor or neo-hybrid/ otterbox commuter) will be WAY more durable anyway, plus it's still waterproof/dustproof.
Get yourself a G900T (T-Mobile variant), or a G900AZ (Cricket wireless variant --Cricket is a subsidiary of at&t--), or even a G900F. Those all have unlocked bootloaders and will allow you to root, install custom recovery, custom roms, whatever you want forever. I personally have a G900T using it on AT&T with no issues, as the G900T supports all the same frequencies (and an extra one!) as the G900A (AT&T model). The G900F doesn't support every single band AT&T uses, so I would pick one of the other two if you want 100% compatibility.
MAKE SURE if you buy a G900T or G900AZ that it is UNLOCKED or you won't be able to use it. And after you get it, you'll have to call AT&T support and give them the new phone's IMEI number in order for LTE to work.
Hope what I said makes sense..
I habve an at&t variant OC5 phone available on Swappa should I get that or not, because I can't find a rooting guide for OC5
Or are you saying buy unlocked so you can use it on AT&T?
Problem is I can't find the SM-G900AZ anywhere used....might just go with the Zenfone 2 . DISSAPOINTING SAMSUNG and ATT I loved the GS3 and was looking forwar to the GS5
Which frequencies does the T mobile version NOT share?
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zetsui said:
I habve an at&t variant OC5 phone available on Swappa should I get that or not, because I can't find a rooting guide for OC5
Or are you saying buy unlocked so you can use it on AT&T?
Problem is I can't find the SM-G900AZ anywhere used....might just go with the Zenfone 2 . DISSAPOINTING SAMSUNG and ATT I loved the GS3 and was looking forwar to the GS5
Which frequencies does the T mobile version NOT share?
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The T-Mobile version shares all the same frequencies plus includes an additional frequency which AT&T does not use, so therefore the T-Mobile (G900T) retains 100% compatibility with AT&T. Yes, if you want to use a G900T on any carrier besides T-Mobile it will have to be unlocked. Luckily it's not hard to find an unlocked G900T.
Let me make this clear: If it's AT&T and it's a Samsung phone and it's on lollipop, don't expect to be able to root it. Go with a T-Mobile or factory unlocked phone.
Hi Guys:
I don't want any Verizon related software on my phone, since I am using a different SIM. Am I restricted to flashing only the roms located in this forum for my S5? Or can I flash any of the Cyanogen or unified roms to my phone?
Anyone?
Is your phone unlocked? Or do you have the retail version? I'm just going to make the safe assumption that you bought the retail variant, therefore your answer is NO.
If you have the Dev version then have at it...
No one with a dev phone would need to ask. So no
Great thanks guys. Yeah it is a retail version not dev version. Damn that sucks.. whenever I dial *611 it still goes to the Verizon customer service line. I can't seem to change that even after uninstalling and freezing as much of the Verizon stuff on the phone. Any ideas
Buy a nexus!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2690703
With the S5 devices with the eMMC 15 chip to aquire an unlocked bootloader, which ROM's from other variants would they be able to use without issues. Just trying to get a thread going for users and Dev's to share their opinions for others to gain knowledge from. Along with Pro's and Con's and 'how to's'. Happy ROM'n
T-Mobile variant seems to be the most supported ROM-wise. It's not locked down to 5.0 TW ROM's like the G900V (Verizon Variant).
The Verizon variant is the most locked down.
That is the question and for any helpful users to post.. Which T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T(if any) and other variant ROM's can we "safely" install on our device. And what are the Pro's and Con's and the fixes(if any).... i guess this is more like a R&D thread to where everyone can post anything that may be helpful to people having questions of which ROM is suitable since we're now new to the unlocked bootloader and hoping more(the eMMC 11's) will be able to be unlocked as well. I'm pretty new as far as setting up a "guide" type thread. But as info is passed out, I'll try to update the thread for information of the ROM's and Pro's and Con's about them.
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T-Mobile variant seems to be the most supported ROM-wise. It's not locked down to 5.0 TW ROM's like the G900V (Verizon Variant).
The Verizon variant is the most locked down.
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Well now that we have an unlockable bootloader... Well, that has to go to AT&T now
To my knowledge, most variants use a generic G900F rom, because those carriers strictly use GSM bands. Verizon and AT&T use CDMA bands, which aren't fully supported in these roms. @jrkruse has released patches (thanks ) that will help with compatibility, but I think these are confined to 5.X at the moment.
I **think** there may be some modifications made to Verizon & AT&T roms regarding firmware, but I can't be sure. It seemed there was more than just CDMA support in the zips provided by JrKruse.
When flashing a G900F rom (should be safe) without patching, you'll probably only have glitchy and cutting out 4G/LTE, with no calling or SMS. Some modifications of the APN settings can maybe help a little, not much. The use of third-party texting apps has been shown to provide some support, but not complete.
Of course, all of this is just based on my strange reasoning, I could be completely wrong on some parts.
Besides cell services, these roms will work fine. Quite fast, too.
As I have stated in the other thread, if a rom is 6.0 and not touchwiz as long as it has a dev build it will boot and work without much more than verifying the apns. 6.0 Touchwiz is simply a no go, just dont try it. It is not worth the headache to get it to work.
I know cm, aokp, aicp, and Resurrection remix all have dev builds there is a couple of others that I think but havent really looked.
@camcorder123 ATT doesnt use cdma technology, they were just dicks and locked the bootloader like Verizon.
@limeaide Oops, you're right about ATT. Sure, a dev build will be easy to run, the problem is that nobody makes them. We've got a few ported but no official developers (from what I know) are actively developing for the phone. That'll probably start up sometime soon but until then we need to find a way to make the generic roms work.
Upon further research, I think it's gonna be a *tad* harder to get G900F roms to work than I thought. The reason only LTE works is because the LTE standard requires a sim card, so there's no problem in getting the phone to read the card and connect to the tower. But, CDMA is separate from the LTE standard - each phone is whitelisted on Verizon's servers (I'm assuming with the IMEI number) and does not need a sim card to access voice and SMS. This is unlike GSM, where everything is through the sim.
So I dunno, we might be stuck for a while. I wouldn't flash roms made for variants other than the KLTE edition, it might be the same outcome even though they may support CDMA.
I just picked up the standard Unlocked HTC 10 and I'm looking to use it as my Verizon daily driver. I'm also looking to use it overseas while I'm in Germany for a month (using whatever plan I find when I get there... recommendations would be appreciated, but I digress).
Are there any pros/cons to flashing the Verizon radios vs converting to the full Verizon version for when I make it overseas?
Rakinos said:
I just picked up the standard Unlocked HTC 10 and I'm looking to use it as my Verizon daily driver. I'm also looking to use it overseas while I'm in Germany for a month (using whatever plan I find when I get there... recommendations would be appreciated, but I digress).
Are there any pros/cons to flashing the Verizon radios vs converting to the full Verizon version for when I make it overseas?
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From my experience it's a waste of time "converting" it to a Verizon phone...flash one of the ROMs that support multiple carriers.. for example leedroid ROM or viper. Keep the zip on your SD In case you gotta flash it in Germany to choose another carrier(international) support option.
Rakinos said:
I just picked up the standard Unlocked HTC 10 and I'm looking to use it as my Verizon daily driver. I'm also looking to use it overseas while I'm in Germany for a month (using whatever plan I find when I get there... recommendations would be appreciated, but I digress).
Are there any pros/cons to flashing the Verizon radios vs converting to the full Verizon version for when I make it overseas?
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SInce the MID is already the same why not just S-off and supercid the device.. .allowing you to fully go either direction by simply flashing an RUU file from your ext SD ?
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SInce the MID is already the same why not just S-off and supercid the device.. .allowing you to fully go either direction by simply flashing an RUU file from your ext SD ?
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SuperCID wouldn't let me flash the ROMs...
Well, the ROMs flashed but wouldn't boot up. Just hangs up on green htc logo. Soon as I changed CID back to unlocked, everything worked fine again. Idk maybe it's just me
I'm hoping for something that allows a simple sim card swap as (truth be told) it's going to be used by my mother.
Idk if you can do that. I believe you still have to change some thing in the "mobile data" settings going from Verizon to using it in Germany. Not sure though. Maybe some of these ROMs will have all the goodness already baked in...