hello guys, i'm relatively new here but i figure this may be the place for android rooting. okay, so i read some of the stickies on top and i understand that the tf300 can be rooted when you go form ics to jb, and then rooting..
however i bought my tf300 around nov and by that time asus already installed the jb on my tablet. i still kept my version at 4.1.1 since i've always wanted to root it just never really got the chance to do so.
the step by step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
but i'm curious if i already have the jb 4.1.1 can i just skip to step 3? or is it something completely different?
nightfireop said:
hello guys, i'm relatively new here but i figure this may be the place for android rooting. okay, so i read some of the stickies on top and i understand that the tf300 can be rooted when you go form ics to jb, and then rooting..
however i bought my tf300 around nov and by that time asus already installed the jb on my tablet. i still kept my version at 4.1.1 since i've always wanted to root it just never really got the chance to do so.
the step by step is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845377
but i'm curious if i already have the jb 4.1.1 can i just skip to step 3? or is it something completely different?
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I'd follow one of the methods in this thread here. Depends on what looking to do if just root and on jb best to follow the motochopper method. If you want roms , recovery etc best to follow the ops method of update to 4.2.1 then root but there's some catches as in the new 4.2.1 its limited and touch due to the update asus made for multiple users and the bootloader. Many users have gotten stuck and uncrecoverably bricked due to not following instructions as to what version of twrp to use with the 4.2.1 update. So all depends if you want to update then root or stay on older firmware. Just a note if do decide to update be sure to use the patched version of twrp which is version 2.4.4.0. As it will brick you and as of now no way to fix and many are getting stuck.
A word of caution be sure to read follow and read more on the threads in the forum you'll see alot of users getting bricked and thats due to the 4.2.1 update and not following instructions because asus really messed thing up for us with the update. Been following these threads my self since got my tf300 and haven't seen so many people getting bricked before. If anything be sure to ask and read as much as can before attempting but as i'm not too familiar with 4.1.1 i do know its safer to root that than it is 4.2.1 but most want to be updated then root. Good luck and heres a good thread to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
A note the current firmware version is 10.6.1.8 so may have to update to that not sure if would have to do each update till get to 4.2.1 but easiest way is to download from asustek website and place them on root of sdcard or internal storage one by one and update then worry about rooting as if you root while on 4.1.1 you would only have to redo any way once get to 4.2.1. Any othere questions best to post in the thread i posted for you and don't be affriad to ask before bricking.
aerdely said:
I'd follow one of the methods in this thread here. Depends on what looking to do if just root and on jb best to follow the motochopper method. If you want roms , recovery etc best to follow the ops method of update to 4.2.1 then root but there's some catches as in the new 4.2.1 its limited and touch due to the update asus made for multiple users and the bootloader. Many users have gotten stuck and uncrecoverably bricked due to not following instructions as to what version of twrp to use with the 4.2.1 update. So all depends if you want to update then root or stay on older firmware. Just a note if do decide to update be sure to use the patched version of twrp which is version 2.4.4.0. As it will brick you and as of now no way to fix and many are getting stuck.
A word of caution be sure to read follow and read more on the threads in the forum you'll see alot of users getting bricked and thats due to the 4.2.1 update and not following instructions because asus really messed thing up for us with the update. Been following these threads my self since got my tf300 and haven't seen so many people getting bricked before. If anything be sure to ask and read as much as can before attempting but as i'm not too familiar with 4.1.1 i do know its safer to root that than it is 4.2.1 but most want to be updated then root. Good luck and heres a good thread to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
A note the current firmware version is 10.6.1.8 so may have to update to that not sure if would have to do each update till get to 4.2.1 but easiest way is to download from asustek website and place them on root of sdcard or internal storage one by one and update then worry about rooting as if you root while on 4.1.1 you would only have to redo any way once get to 4.2.1. Any othere questions best to post in the thread i posted for you and don't be affriad to ask before bricking.
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if anything, i just want root access so i can do titanium backup, play games with a ps3 bt controller, and hopefully better access to stream sports with a functional flash.
nightfireop said:
if anything, i just want root access so i can do titanium backup, play games with a ps3 bt controller, and hopefully better access to stream sports with a functional flash.
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Well for just root here the thread for the motochopper method. No unlock or custom recovery but it seems to work for everyone and safe to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228613
nightfireop said:
if anything, i just want root access so i can do titanium backup, play games with a ps3 bt controller, and hopefully better access to stream sports with a functional flash.
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This is the most recent root for JB. It does not require unlocking. Looking through the thread it appears to work well. Maybe read and see what you think.
I've been using adobe flash 11.1.115.48. Seems to work use some sports streaming apps myself and also use the stock browser. Whats sports streaming apps u use been looking for a good one most are crap couple are ok looking for a good one. Theres a thread on here some where about the flash its an ics version but says it works for jb. Can do a google search should be easy to find.
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I've been using adobe flash 11.1.115.48. Seems to work use some sports streaming apps myself and also use the stock browser. Whats sports streaming apps u use been looking for a good one most are crap couple are ok looking for a good one. Theres a thread on here some where about the flash its an ics version but says it works for jb. Can do a google search should be easy to find.
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i've been using live sports pro. it works well on my ics but the links don't even work on my jb tablet. when i try clicking it link it expands and then it quickly retracts.
Yea thats sort of the issue i've been having i use sport tv and a hockey one. The game or programs always load and can watch but When i click for full screen it just shows blank. Get sound in the back ground but no picture then it won't shut down and have to back out then kill the task in task manager to get it to stop. True it maybe to flash not working properly but wasn't sure if theres much you can do about that when not rooted so just been sticking with the version i posted which seems to work but to a point. Usually if wont go to full screen i just expand the picture to as large as it will go usually can fill most of the screen. If anything come for flash i'll let you know but haven't found anything better than that yet since google dropped the support. Like said i also use the stock browser that seems to work for justintv and frontrow sports and some others as long as i have the flash installed though. Just hate most of the apps the the adds and crap that get in the way when trying to load the game or shows trying to watch.
hey guys i just want to give you a quick update. i ran the motochopper and it seems that i have successfully rooted my tablet. i'll be trying out a couple of programs to see if it works. obviously if i have any other questions or concerns i'll let you know
i'd like to thank you guys for helping me out throughout this process. i'm sure we'll meet again sometime.
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Ok I am totally new to the android buzz. My wife and I both have orignal G1s never really played with them always to busy....Now we both have Acer A500's. I am not gonna play with hers since she loves hers the way it is. I of course feel it should do MORE. So with that being said here is my specs
HC 3.1
kernel version 2.6.36.3
build # 4.010.11_com_gen2
has this level of update been rooted and was there any issues.
(I not only use this to play and well gonna learn but also for work)
Again I am totally new to this.
Oh and Ido have a lot of leather on my back also.....hehehehe....;-}
Yes, you can root 3.1 (just did it this weekend). No issues that I've run across with rooting (knock on wood). For me, I have just installed root programs (TiB, etc.) and OC'd (req'd new kernel, got up to 1.5 GHz w/o problems (knock on wood again)).
No custom ROMs yet, as I've been quite happy with Acer's ROM so far, with the aforementioned tweaking.
I think it really depends on what you want to do - I rooted when I first got it to play, but ended up going back to unrooted stock after the first few weeks - if you don't have a need to root, then I'd just say don't bother.
Now that said, I just re-rooted last week simply to get Netflix working (which it does great now) - so that was my "need" - take that as you will.
But rooting (and unrooting) is pretty darn easy, so it's really hard to mess up your system, just remember - always backup - backup everytime you mess with something - because going back is easy with backups, if you forget, you are forced to find creative ways to "wipe and reset" back to stock.
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I think it really depends on what you want to do - I rooted when I first got it to play, but ended up going back to unrooted stock after the first few weeks - if you don't have a need to root, then I'd just say don't bother.
Now that said, I just re-rooted last week simply to get Netflix working (which it does great now) - so that was my "need" - take that as you will.
But rooting (and unrooting) is pretty darn easy, so it's really hard to mess up your system, just remember - always backup - backup everytime you mess with something - because going back is easy with backups, if you forget, you are forced to find creative ways to "wipe and reset" back to stock.
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well gonna wait a few days before i root due to need to pick up a mcro sdcards to back up system since i only have one and it is corrupt (how or why but nothing can read or write to it) and here lately been to dang busy with work....and dont have anything to back up to
well thats sounds chicken**** doesn't it.....i gues im just being a scared sissy....gonna root i do need access to root to access some vpns at work and need to tether also and do a few things that need access to root...just scared that i mess up and then cant return.....did that with first pc i ever owned and i got lucky with the place where i bought it they reinstalled all and i did the same thing and fixed it myself the second time.....lmao....worst case is i can confiscate the wifes a500 and get all from it to resotre mine......
root will also give you access to deleting any crapware that comes pre-installed. While the Iconia has limited crap, there is some present.
I'm newbie to this stuff (Android) and just got an Iconia A500 (unfortunately without 3G embedded and no ad-hoc wifi).
I understood I need to have access to root account in order to release the ad-hoc wifi and then use a mobile phone that can theter wifi to other machines.
I tried the original way of "rooting" the A500 without success (sorry, i cannot include links here).
Is there any new way since I updated A500 to HC3.1?
Thanks in advance.
Reinaldo
reiferreira said:
I'm newbie to this stuff (Android) and just got an Iconia A500 (unfortunately without 3G embedded and no ad-hoc wifi).
I understood I need to have access to root account in order to release the ad-hoc wifi and then use a mobile phone that can theter wifi to other machines.
I tried the original way of "rooting" the A500 without success (sorry, i cannot include links here).
Is there any new way since I updated A500 to HC3.1?
Thanks in advance.
Reinaldo
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Gingerbreak will not work on 3.1 you need to use iconiaroot found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
It's quite easy- Good luck
cfrock said:
root will also give you access to deleting any crapware that comes pre-installed. While the Iconia has limited crap, there is some present.
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And if you do THAT, future OTA updates will no longer work unless they're a full ROM. Acer has a nasty habit of issuing differential updates.
FloatingFatMan said:
And if you do THAT, future OTA updates will no longer work unless they're a full ROM. Acer has a nasty habit of issuing differential updates.
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True enough, but if you're rooting and trying out new roms, kernels, or deleting crap... then staying current with OTA probably isn't a high priority. Rather, you're looking to tweak/mod your tab and are more likely to wait for a new cooked rom based on said OTA.
cfrock said:
True enough, but if you're rooting and trying out new roms, kernels, or deleting crap... then staying current with OTA probably isn't a high priority. Rather, you're looking to tweak/mod your tab and are more likely to wait for a new cooked rom based on said OTA.
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Sure, but better than people be fully aware of the consequences of their actions... You'd be surprised at the sheer number of folks who just don't think. Look back at this forum before we got custom ROMs and OTAs started coming out as a prime example.
FloatingFatMan said:
Sure, but better than people be fully aware of the consequences of their actions... You'd be surprised at the sheer number of folks who just don't think. Look back at this forum before we got custom ROMs and OTAs started coming out as a prime example.
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Agreed- you're right.
well gonna root today pray for the best.....figure worst case is ima gonna be crying like a lil b**** if I mess it up. Sounds like if I mess it up there is some very highly knowledge here that can help me back to square "A". My main question-------I should be using iconiaroot-1.3.apk or should I be using signedgbiconiatab1.20.apk--------allready got acerecovery downloaded from the market and also titanium back up and which is the proper busybox or do I not need busy box? One last thing I would like to thank all those for the great direction you all have pointed me to!.............;-}
thehunted1 said:
well gonna root today pray for the best.....figure worst case is ima gonna be crying like a lil b**** if I mess it up. Sounds like if I mess it up there is some very highly knowledge here that can help me back to square "A". My main question-------I should be using iconiaroot-1.3.apk or should I be using signedgbiconiatab1.20.apk--------allready got acerecovery downloaded from the market and also titanium back up and which is the proper busybox or do I not need busy box? One last thing I would like to thank all those for the great direction you all have pointed me to!.............;-}
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You need iconiaroot 1.3
As for the other things.. you'll need to be specific as to what you are looking to do. Acer Recovery is an easy way to install ClockworkMod recovery which can then be used to BACKUP and install new roms. Titanium Backup can be used to delete apps and back them and their data up as well. You'll need to be specific.
cfrock said:
You need iconiaroot 1.3
As for the other things.. you'll need to be specific as to what you are looking to do. Acer Recovery is an easy way to install ClockworkMod recovery which can then be used to BACKUP and install new roms. Titanium Backup can be used to delete apps and back them and their data up as well. You'll need to be specific.
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well i dont think i want to install a new rom, but i do a good image back up before i do anything, i do want to get the otas and again as i mentioned before my wife has the same tablet and we are not going to do any thing to it but leave it in its stock level. i will leave the original crap on it which the only thing i dont like is the zinio reader but it doesnt bother me. Will work on trying to get my crack berry or my g1 to tecther with it due to I do and will be using it for work. At present i rdp into my laptop at home just need to be able to get online anywhere and any time....
oh and one last thing do i need to go into portrait mode and lock it down and so forth through all the videos i have seen and foloow those steps or just copy file to sdcar go into a file exploerer and click file and follow instructions.....
I see lots of instructions for "re-rooting" an updated a550, and other options, but I bought my a550 new a month or so ago, did not root, got the ICS update this weekend and would now like to root it so that I can use a few apps that require root (like the cisco anyconnect client).
I hate to look like a complete Noob, but with so much information floating around out there, much of it for folks who rooted first while on HC, I'm having a hard time finding the information I need. Would anyone else who might found this information be willing to share? Hopefully accepting ICS on a device that was never rooted before does not preclude rooting this thing. I really like the tablet but would like it even more if I could connect to the VPN at work, and that requires root.
Hey there.
If im not mistaken, Sounds like you did the same as me and did not root your tablet on HC and went ahead and installed the official ICS from acer.
I also did this then went ahead and rooted it by this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546593
Worked for me even though others in that thread were having trouble last time i checked mine worked first time.
Good Luck
So it now seems clear that OTA will NOT come for the very nice Google IO version of this device, I recently learned that the rooted versions will handle DRM material from Google play,,(correct?) so I think I'm ready to take the plunge,,
Any advice and step by step instructions? Is there a good JB version (if I'm going to do it might as well go all the way?)
Have not rooted the thing at all, so a bit nervous,, I have installed early ADB's on other devices.. so I get generally how the process should go,, but of course the 10.1 is different and the GIO one is even different from all the rest.
Direction/advice and cautions appreciated.. I love the device and don't want a brick in it's place..
And yes I have both the Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus from this year's GIO...
Thanks in advance!:fingers-crossed:
You need to make use of the search feature here. Lots of great info on rooting and flashing.
The Google I/O version is a different build and doesn't get any updates pushed to it by Samsung.
Thanks but...
BretonGirl said:
You need to make use of the search feature here. Lots of great info on rooting and flashing.
The Google I/O version is a different build and doesn't get any updates pushed to it by Samsung.
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Yes I have been searching diligently but as you note the GIO tab is "different" so it is not clear which run and which are eligible solutions.
I see from the views that a number are interested in this question but from searching I don't see great solutions..
It seems that the JB versions are not fully baked.
The ICS versions each seem to have issues and it is not clear which if any are running smoothly on the GIO version.
Hence my attempt by asking the question, to gain some authoritative clarity!
The google io version is the same just is fully unlocked by default. Samsung has indeed pushed more then 1 update to this device in the past. Doesn't seem like they will further. It is NOT 100% GOOGLE on this tab... Not sure why everyone thinks so. Anyways, anything that runs on the retail versions will run on the io just make sure u don't flash a new bootloader keep the one u already have. Use Odin to flash a custom recovery then use that recovery to flash a CUSTOM Rom. I'm running cm10 with very few problems
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Thanks! That helps!
That will help a lot.. The clarity on how the GIO version fits in is the main thing that was confusing me.
Now I have a path to follow.. I think.. The CM10 looks very tempting with JB from what I have been reading here,, I take it the only somewhat real issue is the front camera?
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The google io version is the same just is fully unlocked by default. Samsung has indeed pushed more then 1 update to this device in the past. Doesn't seem like they will further. It is NOT 100% GOOGLE on this tab... Not sure why everyone thinks so. Anyways, anything that runs on the retail versions will run on the io just make sure u don't flash a new bootloader keep the one u already have. Use Odin to flash a custom recovery then use that recovery to flash a CUSTOM Rom. I'm running cm10 with very few problems
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Sorry but need pointers..
A quick scan and I could not locate the Odin recovery instructions or software, and can you clarify that you mean the CM10 rom, not sure if you are implying something more by specifying CUSTOM Rom?
Anything I need to know about Not replacing the bootloader?
I'm assuming that I can ignore instructions relating to rooting/unlocking? Since it is a GIO device?
Do i need to do anything special to keep apps/access to app store, Google provided apps Gmail etc or does CM10 have all the basics??
Sorry to be so basic...Just don't want to end up with a shiny brick!
xTONEx said:
The google io version is the same just is fully unlocked by default. Samsung has indeed pushed more then 1 update to this device in the past. Doesn't seem like they will further. It is NOT 100% GOOGLE on this tab... Not sure why everyone thinks so. Anyways, anything that runs on the retail versions will run on the io just make sure u don't flash a new bootloader keep the one u already have. Use Odin to flash a custom recovery then use that recovery to flash a CUSTOM Rom. I'm running cm10 with very few problems
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dartdog said:
A quick scan and I could not locate the Odin recovery instructions or software, and can you clarify that you mean the CM10 rom, not sure if you are implying something more by specifying CUSTOM Rom?
Anything I need to know about Not replacing the bootloader?
I'm assuming that I can ignore instructions relating to rooting/unlocking? Since it is a GIO device?
Do i need to do anything special to keep apps/access to app store, Google provided apps Gmail etc or does CM10 have all the basics??
Sorry to be so basic...Just don't want to end up with a shiny brick!
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Google is your friend. You'll find ODIN and instructions on how to use it easily.
I believe you have to flash or install the Google Framwork apk separately. I'm sure the CM10 folks have a sticky or FAQ to help.
Read as much as you can about the process before doing it!
Found this on Odin on Android Authority
this appears to answer some of my questions at least where to find Odin
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...kmod-recovery-5-5-0-4-custom-recovery-102580/
But of course I want to go to CM10 so I need to think how that modifies things...
BretonGirl said:
Google is your friend. You'll find ODIN and instructions on how to use it easily.
I believe you have to flash or install the Google Framwork apk separately. I'm sure the CM10 folks have a sticky or FAQ to help.
Read as much as you can about the process before doing it!
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Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
new thread, subsribed!!
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agreed mate
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Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
This is the update schedule for American carriers. Does that mean that unlocked phones will get it sooner? I hope so. I only just bought the note 2 (Best decision ever) and would love it to be running on 4.3 ASAP.
mattytheflasher said:
im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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or if you go back to stock.
have issues with the ota updater as soon as i root my device. The moment i do that i get the message that my device has been changed and i cannot use the updater then. if i flash stock withouth root i don't have this issue.
reckon its best to make a backup of your apps with TB or any similar program when the official update is available, then flash back stock (no root) and update, afterwards simply restore your normal (non-system) apps and your ready
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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To answer you and the gentleman above... Australia will probably be the last country on earth to get the update as usual. So we might have to reside to getting it of some kind developer who uploads it here somewhere.
If you do wish to get updates you should go back to stock firmware (probably the first backup you made for your telstra 4.1.2) doesn't matter if it's rooted. Connect your phone to the PC and have KIES installed. Click update firmware and update (done, it will automatically unroot your phone and put back the stock recovery). You can easily update after that.
If anyone finds any android 4.3 working please update us here as soon as you can with a link to the page. If I find a working ROM for the official android 4.3 TW ROM I'll post it here too.
I don't think Aussie tel companies will well I don't have high hopes when it comes to Samsung I've always had HTC and Samsung and it's always the same get f all. I'm using 4.3.1 carbon I use GMD spen features for spen control and gestures don't use stock Sammy apps anyway.. just the 4.3 would be good because it's smooth as
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I like the update 4.3 but ill want rom without knox. I need root
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
Ultimately every one on xda will be using the custom 4.3 rom for the note 3 goodies because Samsung will not be releasing those features in it's official release
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
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Okay I will explain what I done for you...
When I first rooted my Galaxy Note 2 in May, I was a new-comer to android, I had an iPhone for a long time. What I done was root my phone, I Odin installed TWRP after rooting because I really don't like CWM (those are the names of the 'recoveries' available), they will replace the default Samsung recovery. Just make sure you get TWRP. I think it's up to TWRP 2.6.3
Well yeah let's get back to the topic, as soon as I rooted I used TWRP to make a backup of my default Telstra ROM (completely with EFS, MODEM, basically tick everything you can possibly backup).
I took that backup and put it on my laptop and on my PC and I kept a copy on my external card the whole time. That was the best idea, any time I ever had any problems with my phone I went back to that backup. I even soft bricked my phone once and after hours of panicking I realised I can just Re-install the default backup, and it fixed my phone.
Oh and I just recently un-rooted my phone to check for updates. All I done was use SuperSU to do an UNROOT. Then went into recover, restored the original backup I made of the Telstra ROM. Plugged my phone into the PC, and used Samsung KIES to check for firmware update. It just restarted my phone, removed TWRP recovery, re-installed the samsung one, and it removed the root completely and I'm basically went back to my original telstra ROM. I can go into settings and check for updates and everything. (I can confirm there is no update as of yet).
AS for your other QUESTION.
ALL THE ROMS in the N7105 Section will WORK with your N7105T Model. It's the same thing. JUST WATCH OUT and make sure you never install N7100 ROMS (They will soft-brick and could hard-brick your phone).
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
morph000 said:
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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I Odin flashed mine straight out of the box before I even set it up pulled backup and kept stock rom for warranty only.. these phones are pretty much unbrickable to an extent just don't go trying flashing n7100 roms and you'll be fine at&t roms are ok too just don't flash their bootloaders or even try to.. I change roms daily and have for like the last 2 years on my original note plus HTC's if your unsure on anything this place is helpful more than bloody Samsung
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Sammobile: 4.3 is rolling out for the S3.