So let me start by saying I'm not new to this. However I generally stick to nexus devices, so I haven't had to deal with Odin before. I have a Mac, and I have come to realize that Odin is a windows only program. Is there a good alternative to Odin for macs? I've seen heimdall mentioned, but from what I can tell, its buggy, and I haven't been able to find a good tutorial. What I'm looking for is a way to restore the device from a situation like a bootloop (so mobile Odin won't work)
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Fu5ion said:
So let me start by saying I'm not new to this. However I generally stick to nexus devices, so I haven't had to deal with Odin before. I have a Mac, and I have come to realize that Odin is a windows only program. Is there a good alternative to Odin for macs? I've seen heimdall mentioned, but from what I can tell, its buggy, and I haven't been able to find a good tutorial. What I'm looking for is a way to restore the device from a situation like a bootloop (so mobile Odin won't work)
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you could:
- use bootcamp to install and boot into windows to use ODIN in a windows environment
- run a virtual windows machine in OSX (i've tried this, it was too much trouble to get the usb devices to mount in virtual machine)
- find someone with a windows pc that you can use
- use Heimdall while booting from a live ubuntu cd
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I see in the sticky that heimdall is recommend but all everyone talks about is odin does anyone really use heimdall and is there any difference.....noob here on flashing so I'm gathering all the info I can as to avoid bricking.
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They both do the same thing, Odin was the first on the market been around and most ppl (like me) started out with Odin. Heimdall also has a Linux and Apple version, so for those people who have problems with Odin or use other platforms, it is a good Alternative. I am the one who posted the Heimdall thread, that said I still use Odin but my friends who are mac junkies needed help, so I started using this to help them. My recommendation is to get familiar with both for this reason
The more systems you work with, it will improve your understanding the tools, both in logic and approach.
Hope that helped...........
Thanks I appreciate it I'm going to go with odin since there are tutorials using it
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Heimdall seems to work faster and more accurate for me...using the same computer.
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I see in the sticky that heimdall is recommend but all everyone talks about is odin does anyone really use heimdall and is there any difference.....noob here on flashing so I'm gathering all the info I can as to avoid bricking.
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I'm the developer of Heimdall but I'll try give some non-bias pros for both options.
Odin
Uses the official Samsung driver (no need to manually install a driver).
More tutorials.
Firmware tends to be distributed in a format (3 archives) more suited towards Odin.
Better device compatibility due to Samsung's knowledge about the PIT file. This means you can flash all files described in the PIT file.
Note: When I finally get some free time to finish off Heimdall 1.2 it will include substantially improved PIT file awareness and add support for all files/partitions in the PIT file.
Heimdall
Cross-platform (Windows, Linux and OS X)
Flashes substantially faster (no 15ms communication delay like Odin).
More reliable (less failed flashes).
Can easily flash just one or any combination of file.
UI or command line options depending on personal preference.
Command line allows one step scripts to be written more easily.
Open source.
Developer support.
On another note Odin is, as far as we can tell, leaked Samsung software. Samsung haven't (to my knowledge) brought any legal action upon anyone using it, however there is always the issue of copyright infringement.
Heimdall is licensed under the MIT open-source license, which essentially means you're free to use and redistribute the software however you please, as long as you don't attempt to claim that you created it.
Thanks for this thread, I'm also a noob trying to not brik things up.
So, when I read the posts that describe how to do something in Odin, can I use the same files to do the same thing in Heimdall? I use a Mac and I believe I could set up a VM with Windows to run Odin, but I really don't want to. Besides, I don't have Windows.
Thanks.
Odin
Use Thor. Or Odin is fine too.
I bricked a brand new verizon galaxy tab! It isn't even mine. it's my brothers and he's going to be pissed if i can't fix it
here is what i did:
i rooted it using z4root from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
no problems.
then i downloaded sgs kernel flasher from the market and flashed this file http://gunsforgeeks.com/Tab/kernel/KhasMek.Voodoo.plus.CDMA.Tab.v4.OC.zImage
which i got from this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941781
it auto re-booted when done and is now stuck on samsung logo forever! **** me! i can't reboot into recovery, but i can reboot into download mode.
only problem is i have an old mac ibook running osx 10.4 which is too old for hemidall and too mac for odin. for christs sake i can't even get bootcamp or parallels to work on that old of a mac so i can run windows and thus odin.
what can i do? i'd really like to fix this without having to ask my brother to use his newer mac that should let me run hemidall, cause if i bricked his tab he ain't gonna want me touching his computer.
any suggestions? pleeeeeeease
Get rid of your ****ty mac and get a windows based PC/laptop instead obviously, then flash using odin etc.
Also use the search function, there is an endless amount of topics on this exact issue so no need to create a new one just because you are scared your bro is gunna kick your arse.
Oh btw, your device isnt "bricked", I wish people would not use that term so loosely.
You're gonna have to beg, borrow, buy, or otherwise get yourself a machine that'll run Heimdall... don't think there's any other way around it...
Once you do that, do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967175
crisis averted
sorry ya'll. you'll have to excuse a noob. crisis has been averted. i borrowed a windows laptop and successfully restored to stock via hemidall. guess i have more reading to do before i attempt to flash a rom on this thing again. didn't think i was such a noob as i've never had such problems flashing all kinds of roms on my vibrant. different devices. chalk it up to a learning experience.
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sorry ya'll. you'll have to excuse a noob. crisis has been averted. i borrowed a windows laptop and successfully restored to stock via hemidall. guess i have more reading to do before i attempt to flash a rom on this thing again. didn't think i was such a noob as i've never had such problems flashing all kinds of roms on my vibrant. different devices. chalk it up to a learning experience.
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Good to hear you solved the problem. Just out of curiosity what happened when you tried to run Heimdall on your mac? Theoretically the universal binaries I redistribute should run on 10.4+ with any processors architecture supported by OS X (i.e. x86, AMD64 and PPC).
Heimdall requires osx 10.5?
Apparently. That's what it says when i try to open the .pkg file. it says this package type requires osx 10.5 I can run it in windows 7 though. I had to three times yesterday cause i kept soft bricking my device if that's the right way to put it. read read read. i must be missing something. I had clockworkmod recovery and ext. 4 for a second but then froze on the samsung logo at reboot again. had to heimdall my way back and lost it all. back to the drawing board
Recently bought a laptop and it have windows 8. Are there any drivers, adb, root method for the Nexus 7 or any other android device for windows 8?
I know the this windows is too new. But I figure as people that make this kind of stuff would update to work on windows 8. Or I would it work If I download them from windows 7?
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Recently bought a laptop and it have windows 8. Are there any drivers, adb, root method for the Nexus 7 or any other android device for windows 8?
I know the this windows is too new. But I figure as people that make this kind of stuff would update to work on windows 8. Or I would it work If I download them from windows 7?
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I've read that there are issues with fastboot on Win8. Specifically when trying to fastboot flash stock images etc. Your results may vary, but I think it's too new yet for the support to be there. It'll come with time, but right now it's been iffy.
There are no issues with windows 8...fastboot works good...refer to this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34085361#post34085361
look at my post there(post 7)
I rooted from Windows 8 yesterday. Had some trouble getting it to boot from pushed images with the toolkit. Worked around it by doing the unroot option to get into CWM, where i flashed SuperSU and it worked great
Hey guys,
Right now I'm on a custom GPe rom (i9505G). I need to get back to Touchwiz.
You're probably wondering ... why...? Well, last night I bought a Fitbit Flex, and it's supported by GS4 (wireless syncing), http://www.fitbit.com/devices. Could it be because I'm on a custom rom?
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanks,
gameriot
Yes, it doesn't work because you're on a custom Rom. Fitbit doesn't support it. You can flash the stock firmware in Odin.
Those fitbit's only work on stock or stock-based roms. There's some good ones in the Android Development section. Cheers
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Yes, it doesn't work because you're on a custom Rom. Fitbit doesn't support it. You can flash the stock firmware in Odin.
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I have a Mac, so I can't get Odin.
xBeerdroiDx said:
Those fitbit's only work on stock or stock-based roms. There's some good ones in the Android Development section. Cheers
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I'll check it out. Could you link it?
gameriot said:
I have a Mac, so I can't get Odin.
I'll check it out. Could you link it?
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Best Touchwiz-based ROM, in my opinion, right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313469
gameriot said:
I have a Mac, so I can't get Odin. I'll check it out. Could you link it?
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#1. The TW rom that I find best for me is Shostock2.1 It's already very mature, stable and zero issues.
Here's the link if you want another option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
#2. As to the Mac and no Odin thing. . . . I use a Mac (a couple of them, actually) and found that Heimdal can be made to work, but some folks feel it is not as user friendly/easy to use as Odin. (Btw, you should not need a custom driver to use Heimdal -its a mac and should see your phone w/o driver issues!)
I have used it, but maybe it's just my experience, there have been sometimes when you have everything set up correctly, Heimdal still seems to choke, or just not complete the task (or see the tar file that you want to use!).
Anyway, the newer versions seem better, please check out the current version of Heimdal and the Heimdal front end package?
Here is a Heimdal link in case you want to check: http://www.glassechidna.com.au/products/heimdall/.
The site should have instructions on how to get your file -the stock image or rom image that you want to load and make sure it's the right one and also that its in a form Heimdal can use. . .
Also, here is another very good, informative thread of someone's experience restoring his i337 using Heimdal! It might be helpful (and it is just a few posts down from yours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2374441
#3. But even on a MAC you CAN use Odin! Odin generally works well and if Heimdal seems to complicated or you can't get it working, then you could open your options up significantly if you can either:
(1) use bootcamp and boot into a windows OS, or
(2) use Parallels/VM Ware Fusion and use windows in a virtual window.
Bootcamp is 100% windows running on your mac and is rock-solid, while the VM machine approach also is mature and pretty good, if occasionally temperamental...
If you can do this, then you can use Odin and work on phone with all the tools that most folks here have and use to good effect.
Good Luck!
markbc01 said:
#1. The TW rom that I find best for me is Shostock2.1 It's already very mature, stable and zero issues.
Here's the link if you want another option:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
#2. As to the Mac and no Odin thing. . . . I use a Mac (a couple of them, actually) and found that Heimdal can be made to work, but some folks feel it is not as user friendly/easy to use as Odin. (Btw, you should not need a custom driver to use Heimdal -its a mac and should see your phone w/o driver issues!)
I have used it, but maybe it's just my experience, there have been sometimes when you have everything set up correctly, Heimdal still seems to choke, or just not complete the task (or see the tar file that you want to use!).
Anyway, the newer versions seem better, please check out the current version of Heimdal and the Heimdal front end package?
Here is a Heimdal link in case you want to check: http://www.glassechidna.com.au/products/heimdall/.
The site should have instructions on how to get your file -the stock image or rom image that you want to load and make sure it's the right one and also that its in a form Heimdal can use. . .
Also, here is another very good, informative thread of someone's experience restoring his i337 using Heimdal! It might be helpful (and it is just a few posts down from yours
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2374441
#3. But even on a MAC you CAN use Odin! Odin generally works well and if Heimdal seems to complicated or you can't get it working, then you could open your options up significantly if you can either:
(1) use bootcamp and boot into a windows OS, or
(2) use Parallels/VM Ware Fusion and use windows in a virtual window.
Bootcamp is 100% windows running on your mac and is rock-solid, while the VM machine approach also is mature and pretty good, if occasionally temperamental...
If you can do this, then you can use Odin and work on phone with all the tools that most folks here have and use to good effect.
Good Luck!
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I already tried hiemdall. It kept coming up with error whatever I did. Also my TWRP keeps failing when I'm trying to flash. I'm trying goomanager.
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I already tried hiemdall. It kept coming up with error whatever I did. Also my TWRP keeps failing when I'm trying to flash. I'm trying goomanager.
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OK, I have been there! If Heimdall does not work, then:
a) find a windows machine for a while or
b) use your machine with bootcamp (if you're on a MBP) or
c) use your machine but install/open a virtual desktop (Parallels or VMware Fusion) to get a windows or linux environment.
Please BE CAREFUL when using goomanager (or Rom Manager, for that matter). These apps are useful, but they also are prone to suddenly creating havoc on the phone - usually when least expected . I have used both -but only very carefully and for limited functions. (I recently used GM to update my TWRP to the latest (I think 2.6?) -no issue --so try that at least!)
But for loading roms, initially loading recoveries or the like it is better to use the "manual" processes that we have available here.
Good Luck!
markbc01 said:
OK, I have been there! If Heimdall does not work, then:
a) find a windows machine for a while or
b) use your machine with bootcamp (if you're on a MBP) or
c) use your machine but install/open a virtual desktop (Parallels or VMware Fusion) to get a windows or linux environment.
Please BE CAREFUL when using goomanager (or Rom Manager, for that matter). These apps are useful, but they also are prone to suddenly creating havoc on the phone - usually when least expected . I have used both -but only very carefully and for limited functions. (I recently used GM to update my TWRP to the latest (I think 2.6?) -no issue --so try that at least!)
But for loading roms, initially loading recoveries or the like it is better to use the "manual" processes that we have available here.
Good Luck!
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Thanks for the help. I got Touchwiz on my phone and got the sync to work but I just hate Touchwiz and went back by restoring my nandroid. Can't wait till they get Bluetooth 4.0 on custom roms, then it'll work.
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Great..and if you still need a TW Rom, you still can switch launchers to Nova or something like that...
Then you hardly see the Samsung footprint...yet have the TW needed for the device..
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Hi all.
For the first time in many years of rooting and modifying android devices I seem to of hit a brick wall with this device.
My laptop is running Ubuntu 14.04 and my plan was to root the device using JOdin3, however there is an issue with it and newer Samsung devices as its unable to retrieve the .pit file. I've done some searching and there doesn't seem to be an easy solution.
Someone has suggested running windows 7 in virtual box and using odin, however I have a very slow internet connection and i currently have a 3 hour wait for windows to download, also some people have reported that it doesn't always work.
Have any other Linux users had any luck rooting the Note 4?
Edit 03/03/2015
What an absolute farce, finally managed to get recovery installed using Windows XP in Virtual Box and Odin v3.04.
Can't believe its taken me 24 hours to root this ****ing thing!
I've tried with Heimdall and had the same problem, couldn't generate a PIT file. I had an old Win7 laptop laying around so used that and Odin instead, no problems.
I think I'll just end up going to my mum's and using her Win7 laptop.
I can't believe that such a popular device has no method for rooting on Linux. I've had this phone for 9 hours and I think it's the longest I've used an unrooted device for
Finally got it done, I've put a brief explanation of how I did it in the OP but if anyone wants further info please PM me.