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It's Hard to Get Bored of Android

Just want to post some of my thoughts regarding the 'freshness' of Android..
With phones I've had in the past (Symbian, BB) I usually found myself bored with the software/hardware relatively quickly. This is not the case with my Nexus (and Android in general). I've had this phone since March and kept it completely stock until last week because frankly, it did pretty much everything I needed it to. This was a far cry from when I had my Magic and was constantly flashing something every other day (ROM, theme, kernel etc).
With Android I found that there was always something I could install or implement to make my phone seem new again. When I grew tired of the stock 2.1 launcher, it just so happened that Helix Launcher 2 was released. It changed the way I used my phone (direct access to the dialer at all times was huge).
The one issue I had with both Helix and stock though was that the scrolling was sub standard, and boom Launcher Pro releases and resolves that problem. All the while, I kept my phone stock and was satisfied.
Around the time FroYo was announced I got the itch to mod. Not that the stock ROM grew boring or anything, but the techy inside of me wanted to tinker with my $600 phone. When the test build of FroYo leaked, XDA was a madhouse and it was great! I finally unlocked the boot loader, flashed Paul's FroYo and truly felt my N1 was fresh again. Of course a lot of people spent alot of time complaining about what the update didn't include or it's problems but I've always liked to focus on the positives.
After playing around with stock FroYo for a few days I went ahead and flashed ADW Launcher v0.7rc3 and wow, I felt as if I had a completely different phone from a week ago! This is why these launchers and themes (ie. manup's work) are so great, they keep our phones looking new.
Pretty soon, when everyone is tired of stock, the FroYo source will be released and then the Devs can really do what they do best. The influx of ROMS, kernels, themes, launchers etc will keep any N1 user satisfied for a long time. And guess what, when things become really stable and it seems like the development is getting stagnant, Gingerbread will be on it's way!
This is what I love about Android, things never get stale. It doesn't matter if better hardware is coming out, our phones will keep evolving as long as the OS does. I just thought I'd share my thoughts since I've been noticed a lot of negativity since FroYo's release which surprised me.

I totally agree with this post. The nexus one is my first android phone, had it since April, and I'm still totally hooked to my phone, always looking to flash something new, browse the market for new widgets etc.
The iPhone got boring within a week or two, because I totally had what I needed from the App Store, and really there was no other ways to extend more to the iPhone. Had jailbreaked, but pretty much a jailbreak looses all the Apple's touch to it with the themes, and had not really found anything to my likings. The iPhone ended being an SMS/Call phone with some browsing and twitter. Oh and I dislike the notifications.
The BlackBerry was reliable, great battery life, but after a year of using a blackberry, the OS really didn't change much, and I still didn't find ways to make it more interesting. I still love the BlackBerry, but just not to my geekiness tinker experiments I love to make.
No comment on Symbian really, My N-Gage had very similiar software to the N95 (2002 IIRC vs 2007 phone) and it pretty much really didnt fit in the smartphone area. Not to mention to HUGE LACK of apps.
Android, blew everything to the water in my opinion. Browsing through XDA and Modaco is really like browsing through a candy store, you want to try everything, and it's always getting refilled with goodies.
So far, this is MY favorite phone of all time, and I really have no plans to getting something else, or something else on the market that competes with it. Not even the EVO 4G, no 4G coverage here in Malta yet, don't really dig the stand and 4.3inch in my jeans.
And Google doesn't seem to have a break on improving android, and I believe developers and hackers will not hold back either. Long live android!

Well written post. I agree, I've had the wm dash, the g1, & now my nexus. Android & htc make amazing partners. Froyo has impressed me more every time I've used my phone now. Every time I think I'm starting to get bored xda or cyanogenmod have something new to try.

I disagree. I'm bored with mine. i had the g1, behold II (terrible phone), mytouch, and nexus one. I was let down that Froyo had so few features that the user could get excited about. Browsable market is great, chrome to phone is great, but those are niche features. Nothing groundbreaking like when 1.6 brought the universal search, or when 2.0 brought navigation, or 2.1 brought a new design. I'm bored with the phone and will probably get a windows 7 phone when they come out.

mateo2 said:
I disagree. I'm bored with mine. i had the g1, behold II (terrible phone), mytouch, and nexus one. I was let down that Froyo had so few features that the user could get excited about. Browsable market is great, chrome to phone is great, but those are niche features. Nothing groundbreaking like when 1.6 brought the universal search, or when 2.0 brought navigation, or 2.1 brought a new design. I'm bored with the phone and will probably get a windows 7 phone when they come out.
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I respect your opinion but look at what you just wrote. Android 1.6 came out in Sept of '09, in 8 months Android has pushed out 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2! You even said yourself that 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 brought about 'groundbreaking' improvements. That's 3 'groundbreaking' updates in less than a year! I think we're getting a little too spoiled to expect each incremental update to be revolutionary. Fact is no one pushes out constant OS reiterations like Android.

I think JIT (and the associated performance increase - up to 450%!!!) would be a pretty big achievement, and it's one I'm thoroughly excited about.

mateo2 said:
I disagree. I'm bored with mine. i had the g1, behold II (terrible phone), mytouch, and nexus one. I was let down that Froyo had so few features that the user could get excited about. Browsable market is great, chrome to phone is great, but those are niche features. Nothing groundbreaking like when 1.6 brought the universal search, or when 2.0 brought navigation, or 2.1 brought a new design. I'm bored with the phone and will probably get a windows 7 phone when they come out.
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You wanting Windows Mobile 7 = Makes your post irrelevant

jasrups said:
I respect your opinion but look at what you just wrote. Android 1.6 came out in Sept of '09, in 8 months Android has pushed out 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2! You even said yourself that 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 brought about 'groundbreaking' improvements. That's 3 'groundbreaking' updates in less than a year! I think we're getting a little too spoiled to expect each incremental update to be revolutionary. Fact is no one pushes out constant OS reiterations like Android.
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damn bro he got you with that one haha

jasrups said:
Of course a lot of people spent alot of time complaining about what the update didn't include or it's problems but I've always liked to focus on the positives.
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you sir look at the glass half full, not half empty. i applaud you for that. as for the post, i totally agree. there r so many things to change up the look of your android. theres helix launcher, launcher pro, open home, all the roms, frankly, you only get bored eventually if you don't have root.

Agreed. Having a long history of Symbian phones that would each receive only incremental updates that were designed to fix major problems or add features that are standard on other phones, Android is certainly a refreshing experience.
I bought my Nexus One as soon as Google made it available on January 5th and I still feel the magic with it like the day I opened the box. My productivity and organization has gone through the roof with this phone and I don't see myself getting a replacement until, oh, 2011?

Well written post with many positive points some of us fail to remember all the time. I have had multiple BB's and WM devices... I heavily modded my WM devices, and even modded my BB's to an extent. Then one day, I booted Android up on my Kaiser, and there was no turning back. It was like a fresh spring day, and each and every day with Android brings new, unique and interesting discoveries.
I got a G1 about a month after my first experience with Android on my Kaiser, and the N1 a couple weeks after it came out. In the 10 months of using Android, it has never felt stale on my end either. New launcher, new mods, new ROMs, and so forth are allways welcome. But for me, what keeps it feeling fresh is the fact that it is such a smooth clean smartphone OS that just gets the job done.
Sure, there are shortcomings and things it could do better, or even do(audio/video codec improvement would be nice). But as a phone that lets me get my work emails, surf the internet, stay up to date on the news, connect with and communicate with my friends, manage my day and life, there is nothing that compares.

I was showing one of my buddies at work today some FroYo stuff and (one of) the things he said (among "wow" etc ) was looking at the home screen: "wow, your home screen is different every time I see it," haha.
Definitely can't get bored of Android when you can actually customize it. (Hear that Steve? )

Paul22000 said:
I was showing one of my buddies at work today some FroYo stuff and (one of) the things he said (among "wow" etc ) was looking at the home screen: "wow, your home screen is different every time I see it," haha.
Definitely can't get bored of Android when you can actually customize it. (Hear that Steve? )
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+1. Having a home screen alone is a huge win over the pages of apps stuck in a grid that doesn't give you any relevant information as it is, but having such a customizable, interactive, and useful homescreen is what sets Android way above the competition.

Good thread! I was bored with WM, but can't even keep up with the Android progressive development And that's a good thing

pjcforpres said:
Well written post with many positive points some of us fail to remember all the time. I have had multiple BB's and WM devices... I heavily modded my WM devices, and even modded my BB's to an extent. Then one day, I booted Android up on my Kaiser, and there was no turning back. It was like a fresh spring day, and each and every day with Android brings new, unique and interesting discoveries.
I got a G1 about a month after my first experience with Android on my Kaiser, and the N1 a couple weeks after it came out. In the 10 months of using Android, it has never felt stale on my end either. New launcher, new mods, new ROMs, and so forth are allways welcome. But for me, what keeps it feeling fresh is the fact that it is such a smooth clean smartphone OS that just gets the job done.
Sure, there are shortcomings and things it could do better, or even do(audio/video codec improvement would be nice). But as a phone that lets me get my work emails, surf the internet, stay up to date on the news, connect with and communicate with my friends, manage my day and life, there is nothing that compares.
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I'm with this guy, lol. My first experience with Android was running it on my Kaiser as well, and it blew my mind - and this was only after I had run out of things to do with WM. Even flaky though it was at the time (no power management, for instance, and an ugly hack to even make the display go to sleep), I was impressed. Then I got a Raphael, tweaked WM as far as I could on that.... and started running Android 2.0.1 on there as the primary OS. Sure, it was still flaky and would occasionally crash, but the smoothness of the interface and all of the various capabilities far outweighed the inconvenience.
And I finally got my first official Android device , the NexusOne, just a few weeks ago now. My only regret is that it took me so long to actually walk into the party rather than just dancing by myself in the street. The freedom represented by this platform is so uplifting. If it doesn't work the way you want it to, you're free to re-work it using free tools from the developer, that will run on any OS. And then the phone's platform will even let you install programs you wrote or code you spliced together without having to jump through a dozen different hoops of differing sizes and strange shapes.
I could go on and on about all the things I love about this platform and this device... and I haven't even gotten proper data access yet! I'm currently in Afghanistan working with a bunch of Air Force guys, and after showing off my phone to them THREE have ordered NexusOnes and there are another two waiting to sell their iPhones before they order. They constantly come around to my tent anxious to see the latest hack or tweak or mod :-D
Thanks for kicking this thread off, jasrups. All the negative threads griping about Android missing "basic features" and doing things the "wrong" way were getting old. Nice to see that some people still appreciate the positives :-D
Cheers.

Absolutely agree.
I sign after every word. If only everyone would try to focus on the positives...
Oh well, I'm a happy camper and glad to see I'm not alone.

Seems a lot of us got a taste for Android on the Kaiser, its exactly what I did! Got an HTC Hero, loved it and developed for it and Google gave me a shiny new Nexus One!
Have to say its an exciting time to be in the Android world, explosive growth will bring lots more "official" apps and a load of other interesting concepts. Plus we have Froyo and Gingerbread, in one year!

tomfreay said:
Seems a lot of us got a taste for Android on the Kaiser, its exactly what I did! Got an HTC Hero, loved it and developed for it and Google gave me a shiny new Nexus One!
Have to say its an exciting time to be in the Android world, explosive growth will bring lots more "official" apps and a load of other interesting concepts. Plus we have Froyo and Gingerbread, in one year!
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I used Android as about 70% primary OS on my Rhodium for 2-3 weeks before I finally got the N1. I really wanted the Desire to be honest (hardware buttons and touch screen) but the N1 is an awesome phone and I'm happy I got it.
I tried Android on my Kaiser (SD not NAND) and the experience was pretty poor.. Quite slow. Perhaps NAND is faster, but regardless, it's great we could preview Android before making the big move.

codesplice said:
I could go on and on about all the things I love about this platform and this device... and I haven't even gotten proper data access yet! I'm currently in Afghanistan working with a bunch of Air Force guys, and after showing off my phone to them THREE have ordered NexusOnes and there are another two waiting to sell their iPhones before they order. They constantly come around to my tent anxious to see the latest hack or tweak or mod :-D
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Stay safe in Afghanistan man!
I think it's always most satisfying when you impress an iPhone user. I was about to convert a few of them completely until the iPhone 4G was announced lol.. It's a little different here in Canada though, Android phones are harder to come by and contracts are more ridiculous. Usually a minimum 3 year commitment, with an upgrade only every 2 years.. That's another reason why I bought the Nexus unlocked.. I love the phone, but I would hate to HAVE to keep same phone for a minimum of 2 years, I'll most likely be sticking with unlocked phones from now on.
I remember I had a chance to pick up a G1 when it first came out. I had a Nokia E61i and frankly, I completely brushed the G1 off.. It looked ugly to me (didn't like the bottom chin, especially when the keyboard slid out) and I had read that Android was still very rough around the edges. However I had no idea the modding community was this immense! At that point Nokia was still a powerhouse and my E61i was still kickin it but thinking back, I wish I had looked into the G1 further so I could have seen this grow from the beginning. Last summer I pulled the trigger on the Magic and have been Android since.

+100 for all the positives mentioned out here so far.
When I look at the cribfest that's on right now in other threads, I do wonder: what platforms have these XDA users migrated from? My pre-Android phone was a Sony Ericsson m600i, running UIQ (yes, that failed mod of Symbian). The day I got my G1, I was wowed beyond words, with everything from the Market, to the SDK (which, to be honest, I had been running for months before I got the phone). And this was pre-cupcake!
I discovered XDA along the way, and yes, as someone noted above, it *is* a freaking candy store! Just as important as the OS and the apps, the devs and the user community here have kept the Android experience alive for me. I bought the Nexus One within a week of its Jan 5 launch this year (right after Steve Kondik said he was getting one) . Absolutely. No. Regrets.
Oh, and here's that other thing: Influence. I have five little green Android robots showing up in my gtalk list here in India. And they're all people who've been wowed by the G1/NexusOne in my possession, at one time or the other. Viral marketing/selling works, apparently!

New Verizon and the Fascinate...my thoughts!

Ok so i have had the fascinate for a while. I switched to Verizon because they have the best service in my area. I was on ATT with Iphone before.
The phone feels cheap but a great screen
It feels smooth when useing the apps but horribly slow when using the UI itself.
99% of the market is themes and ringtones.
No new games all are ports and old games that I had on the iphone a year ago.
The UI is ugly to me unless I use Launcherpro then it gets Nice. There are no Good scrollable widgets in the market at all. So far without Launcherpro widgets would be pointless!
The GPS lock time is horrible (Yes I know theres a fix coming, which some say realy does nothing)
Ive used some of the roms with kernels in clockwork mod... honestly I see no Improvment compared to Launcherpro... touchwiz sux.
I love the hardware of this phone...except the plastic feel. But coming from a Iphone i can say It just doesnt compare. Push notification apps are rare on android.
I know this is the best option ...only option on Verizon. But I do miss my JAILBROKEN IPHONE. With a jailbroken iphone I was able to do so much more. better theming, skins , even widgets.
Just my thoughts. I expected so much more from Google.

That phone sucks get the dinc
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That phone sucks get the dinc
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^^Lulz....
Please go get Another Iphone

If you don't like it, I saw that the iPhone is on sale, you could probably get a new one. GPS is fixed, just not in an official update, but it most certainly is working. And games will come, it will just take some time. Gingerbread should help significantly, as well as the growth that the Android platform has experienced the past year.
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You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.

I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.

chopper the dog said:
You are completely entitled to your own opinion. I just wish people didn't share them on a development site. Go to cnet or something.
good day.
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Agreed.........

chronster said:
I'm starting to not like this thing either. As a phone with it's basic functions, it does fine, but dammit, there is an almost TOTAL lack of attention to this thing from the dev community, which tells ME no geeks bought it.
Back when I had my TP2, there was a ton of custom roms, and constant development that made that thing very capable.
I think you can even run Froyo on a TP2 now.
F*ck me this thing sucks.
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there is plenty of development going on for this phone..however its not currently here on xda

Atleast im not the only that feel this way. I thought I was missing something. I played with my friends Incredible .. I liked the UI almost the same as my Launcherpro add on.... but it looked better with a few more options....but it was slower than launcherpro.
As far as Apps well I think its going to be like that Untill Google stops the fragmentation. They should force Manufactures to update All phones in a timely manner atleast for 1 year
Ill give it till January and see if any other options are available. I love GOOGLE but Im not loving Android anymore. I think the thought of openess was a great idea. But Its lacking with developers wanting to make cool apps.
Like I said in January Ill see where Android is at. If its not moving foward in the DEV/MARKET area ill get a windows mobile or Iphone.
Thanks guys!!

Android is the platform that recent surveys have shown will receive the most new development. More so than iPhone/iPad and Windows Phone. I don't think it has to do with fragmentation so much as it takes time to realize where the market is going.
Just 6 months ago, there were only a handful of Android devices out there, and most weren't exactly powerful devices that could do gaming and many other things. Because of that, software companies put their money and time into making games for the iPhone as it could handle games better than the Android phones of the time. Given the lead time in creating a game or some of the complex apps out there, places probably only started on them recently.
Android didn't really take off until this past summer, at least not in a mass market way. There were rumored updates to devices, but no one knew how they would do where the iOS platform had a 3+ year history. Now that Android has taken off, companies are playing catch up.

I just decided to return the phone. Ill wait it out till january and see what is announced.
Just not enough good Applications to warrant being stuck on this OS. If things change maybe ill revisit it again.
Thanks guys and Goodluck.

so i picked up a galaxy s2 today.

found someone who needed 2 phones for their one so I traded them 2 garminfones for their galaxy s 2, I gotta say, I don't know if it's because the device is way overhyped on here or because I've just been spoiled by wp7 but this feels pretty choppy. I was told that it was just as smooth if not smoother than wp7 and upon using it all I can think is "all that power for this" paired with the terrible Samsung UI, the games which while numerous don't seem as high quality as other oses, and the keyboard I was pretty disappointed, I thought I might use it for a week and try to get used to it and dual wield it with my dvp but I just can't, its going in the phone drawer to only see the light of day when I'm developing. Honestly it doesn't seem much smoother than my dell streak that I have been using for dev purposes.

Says the self-proclaimed Galaxy S hater.

NrootN said:
Says the self-proclaimed Galaxy S hater.
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with good reason, again I hope these are just to increase post count because your statements bring absolutely nothing else to the table.

Dude, the phone is so customizable. Do a full wipe and flash it with Cognition 1.31. Add Chainfire 3D. Add a new keyboard. Quit complaining.

And in other news, i picked up a Galaxy SII yesterday and loving it. Much smoother than WP7 in my opinion and nicer than iOS.
We all have different likes.

Wow, after years, finally felt the need to put somebody on Ignore here on XDA. Congrats, you Metrosexual tool.

kbiz90 said:
Dude, the phone is so customizable. Do a full wipe and flash it with Cognition 1.31. Add Chainfire 3D. Add a new keyboard. Quit complaining.
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you mean I can spend hours finding and downloading a bunch of files to void warranty and have a chance to kill my phone just to make a device that's pretty overpowered as is usable? It doesn't matter what UI replacement you toss on there, android has yet to throw together a UI replacement that's worth the effort. I understand this is xda devs and I have 6 apps on the marketplace but those are apps to improve the phone. Why should I have to download apps and different boot images and a million other things just to make one of the most powerful phones readily available useful?

Yes i think you have, i had a ZTE blade before i had the S2 and the s2 is way better for me than the Blade.

z33dev33l said:
found someone who needed 2 phones for their one so I traded them 2 garminfones for their galaxy s 2, I gotta say, I don't know if it's because the device is way overhyped on here or because I've just been spoiled by wp7 but this feels pretty choppy. I was told that it was just as smooth if not smoother than wp7 and upon using it all I can think is "all that power for this" paired with the terrible Samsung UI, the games which while numerous don't seem as high quality as other oses, and the keyboard I was pretty disappointed, I thought I might use it for a week and try to get used to it and dual wield it with my dvp but I just can't, its going in the phone drawer to only see the light of day when I'm developing. Honestly it doesn't seem much smoother than my dell streak that I have been using for dev purposes.
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Good for you, maybe you should wait for the WP7 Samsung Galaxy SII. Or maybe not, if you hate Samsung phones

z33dev33l said:
found someone who needed 2 phones for their one so I traded them 2 garminfones for their galaxy s 2, I gotta say, I don't know if it's because the device is way overhyped on here or because I've just been spoiled by wp7 but this feels pretty choppy. I was told that it was just as smooth if not smoother than wp7 and upon using it all I can think is "all that power for this" paired with the terrible Samsung UI, the games which while numerous don't seem as high quality as other oses, and the keyboard I was pretty disappointed, I thought I might use it for a week and try to get used to it and dual wield it with my dvp but I just can't, its going in the phone drawer to only see the light of day when I'm developing. Honestly it doesn't seem much smoother than my dell streak that I have been using for dev purposes.
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So here's how I see it. You're watching all the press coverage and reading all the outstanding reviews of the SGS2 and that it and Samsung are setting worldwide sales records. There you sit on T-Mobile, a carrier about to be made to look like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz using your single-core WP7 phone that has a whopping 6% worldwide marketshare. So you're pissed, envious, and feeling a bit stupid for your decision.
You decide to come here and post a bunch of stuff that no one's complained about on the phone before just to get a rise out of those on this forum for sport and to make yourself feel better. Your "I hate Samsung" signature's a nice touch.
Sad, very sad.

Your SGSII only sees daylight when developing....
So you do your developing during the day then??? Amazing.
I came from windows mobile phones. Did not want to walk away from that -because I was afraid I was going to mis my fav. apps- But I bought the SGSII.
If I would have known the SGSII was SO much faster, and SO many fantastic apps exist for Android, I would have bought one sooner.
I can't see how a WP could beat the SGSII. In any respect. Ever.

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you mean I can spend hours finding and downloading a bunch of files to void warranty and have a chance to kill my phone just to make a device that's pretty overpowered as is usable?
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Yes. You've got a over one thousand posts. Sounds like you've spent many hours here already.
I'm tellin' ya. A customized SGS2 is a piece of art.

I used a lot of phones all different kinds from symbian to wp to android. I must say the fastest phone i ever had was the SGII. Normally i flash all different ROMS and keep playing with the OS. But this wasn't necessary for the SGII. I'm on stock and it works perfect.
I never liked Samsung phones with their own OS but android made me wanna try it and.. I'm loving it. It's a fast phone deal with it.
Till you have a serious issue don't come here complaining about something that no one has. If you have beef with Android go get a WP phone, If I where you i would sell the SGII while it's hot

@OP
I would love to take your sgs2 off your hands for you
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I'm pretty sure you sold your kidney to get it and that's why you're so pissed

I have no reason to come in trolling. I am more than happy with wp7 and love Samsung phones. My signature was listed as such when the original string of galaxy s devices came out and I got the vibrant. That was a joke of a phone and I i opted for the captivate which had the back door mechanism fall off the tracks after about 4 hours of use. Windows phone 7 is the only OS for me now, the UI is seamless across all devices, i don't have to fear that i won't be receiving the next update (got 5 so far), and it syncs with everything that's important to me without flaw. I can't wait for the next Samsung wp7 device though I'll be hard pressed to ditch the dell venue pros keyboard. Of course no one here complains of the speed issues, the vast majority who own it came from other android devices, windows mobile, or Symbian. Compared to all of those its extremely fast.
oh, and commodoor, windows mobile is not equal to windows phone. Just clarifying as i reviewed your rather extensive phone history.
All in all the phone is astounding, but it's kinda like putting windows 95 on a brand new PC, sure it functions and you can perhaps even tweak it to run somewhat fast... But it's not going to be windows 7 or windows 8

Been a Nokia Fan ever since I started Buying phones and then came Android and bought my HTC Hero and Boy did I become a FLASH JUNKIE ( still have it )
And Then Heard about WP7 and HTC having wooed me with Hero went and Got my self a HTC HD7 and I loved its simplicity ( I HAVE a IPOD TOUCH so didnt really fancy going for a IPHONE , thought It was too easy compared to Android)
ALthough I loved a lot of the things the WP7 bought, BING MAPS and NO FLASH got the better of me and off I went to get the SGS2 and give samsung a go and Me was happy again.
The Most thing I like about Samsung is getting Firmware over ODIN and thats why I still haven't rooted it.
But now MS having released MANGO for WP7 I feel love towards WP7 again and having been a NOKIA FAN I will definately buy a NOKIA WP7.
But to sum it All I love ANDROID cause of FLASH and the customisation it offers and that you dont have to rely on carriers for your updates.

z33dev33l said:
I have no reason to come in trolling. I am more than happy with wp7 and love Samsung phones. My signature was listed as such when the original string of galaxy s devices came out and I got the vibrant. That was a joke of a phone and I i opted for the captivate which had the back door mechanism fall off the tracks after about 4 hours of use. Windows phone 7 is the only OS for me now, the UI is seamless across all devices, i don't have to fear that i won't be receiving the next update (got 5 so far), and it syncs with everything that's important to me without flaw. I can't wait for the next Samsung wp7 device though I'll be hard pressed to ditch the dell venue pros keyboard. Of course no one here complains of the speed issues, the vast majority who own it came from other android devices, windows mobile, or Symbian. Compared to all of those its extremely fast.
oh, and commodoor, windows mobile is not equal to windows phone. Just clarifying as i reviewed your rather extensive phone history.
All in all the phone is astounding, but it's kinda like putting windows 95 on a brand new PC, sure it functions and you can perhaps even tweak it to run somewhat fast... But it's not going to be windows 7 or windows 8
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Nothing like putting windows 95 on a new pc, maybe good ol' XP though, I'll give you that.

I must say, I've missed flash only twice since I ditched android but I only really used it for videos I played in browser (I don't visit many flash sites) so it didn't hurt too bad. Then the videos in mango greatly improved in quality so now I can watch any random video mostly in HD and eh... Nothing I i really miss about android. I always kept my themes minimal anyway.

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I know that they are different.
What i understand is that you are afraid of fragmentation, most people are. I know where you getting at but i must say it's not that worse as one year ago. I know Hero was stuck at Android 1,5 for a looong time.
I love plain android i used it for a long time with cyanogenmod. But the TW isn't that heavily modded like the sense on HTC phones. Sense is really heavy btw. I didn't like the new metro look of the WP but that makes the choice so great.
So android gives you the choice to choose your own phone. Choose what you, that's great.
want plain android go for nexus series
want a socially integrated phone go for sense
someting between go for samsung
I'm not worried that we have to wait long for updates on Galaxy.

Alternative to GS2 i9100

Hi Guys If I am bored with my GS2 and feel a urge to buy something different.
Still remaining on Android platform what will you guys recommend.
Many Thanks
PS My reason to change is the home button has stop working I will just sell it off and get something new.

Galaxy Nexus

thanku said:
Hi Guys If I am bored with my GS2 and feel a urge to buy something different.
Still remaining on Android platform what will you guys recommend.
Many Thanks
PS My reason to change is the home button has stop working I will just sell it off and get something new.
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Best advice is to go into a phone shop and have a play around with the demo devices and see what you like. There are loads of phones especially from HTC who seem to be releasing a new phone every week.

Galaxy Note or Nexus. Xperia ones are nice. But I dont trust Sony Ericsson..

Galaxy Nexus! After all its pure Google phone

If you want something different you should consider the Nokia N9. I've only tried it briefly in shop, but my god it's gorgeous.
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Moto Razr? =D

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thanku said:
I am bored with my GS2 and feel a urge to buy something different.
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You don't need a phone, then! You need something different! Any other phone is going to be just too simmilar to your SGS2 (which I think you should seriously reconsider fixing). Try an Open Pandora (Google it! I can't post links!), it's the closest coolest thing I can think of!

Just go buy an iPhone. You're asking if there's a better alternative to one of the best Android phones around? pfffft....our phone is a software upgrade away from being a better phone than a galaxy nexus (apart from that massive screen ofc...).

I personally think after windows 8 is released and the windows 8 tablets start flooding the market with metro ui windows phone is going to get a lot more popular too as a result. I'm waiting to see what happens but I might make the switch.

Right now i would not recommend anything for android. If you want a whole new experience, try WP7 or meego.
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Hi Guys If I am bored with my GS2 and feel a urge to buy something different.
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You could try sky diving!

Kailkti said:
Right now i would not recommend anything for android. If you want a whole new experience, try WP7 or meego.
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+1 to this.
In fact I am eying for WP 7 or furthers as my future OS. I like Microsoft and their work. If everything goes well WP will be the mostly used and popular OS within next 3-4 years.

For me it would be the Galaxy Note, it does everything the G-Nexus does, but better. All it needs is ICS. Personally I think the 5" screen is great, especially for films which I already use my GS2 for a lot.

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+1 to this.
In fact I am eying for WP 7 or furthers as my future OS. I like Microsoft and their work. If everything goes well WP will be the mostly used and popular OS within next 3-4 years.
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I agree that Mango is the best mobile OS right now, but I'm not planning to replace my SGS2 any time soon. The fact is that the android ecosystem is just a lot stronger right now, everything from ROM development to app choices. ICS also looks like it makes some important strides from a quality-of-OS standpoint (though I have yet to put my hands on a Galaxy Nexus myself), so hopefully in a few months we'll see those benefits rolled into our GS2s.
I hope you're right and Windows Phone has greater traction in 3-4 years, and if it keeps going the way it's going, I may buy a windows handset in a couple years. Microsoft is still awful at marketing, though, and if average smartphone buyers know that there is something besides iPhone available, they probably have only heard of android, or maybe knew some guy who hated Windows Mobile five years ago. They've got a lot of hurdles to clear; we'll see how it goes.
To the OP: This has probably already been said to death, but the only GSM android phone that can be argued to be better than the SGS2 is the Galaxy Nexus right now. If you just want something different, I know a lot of people who like the RAZR, or you could always go for the monster of a phone that is the Note.

Having owned a nexus (ok only for a few days) i would say that the SGS2 is the better phone. Yes the Nexus has ICS and a nice screen but you are limited with Flash (ok it will come), no radio and mainly storage. I just cant live with non expandable phones with only 16gb on board. Maybe in a few months if and when the 32gb version of the nexus comes along and they have fixed flash but not now.
As shr33kant said, the SGS2 is one update (ICS) away from being a totally better phone than the Nexus.
Maybe the Note is the way forward. I have been toying with the idea myself. The screen would be massive for Video. And by the way i didnt really see / feel a difference in screen size between the SGS2 and Nexus, not sure why i didnt but i didnt.
Hope this helps.

Either the SGN or the Razr. I'd go for the latter if i were you, it seems so durable and premium...

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He'll probably get board with that, so to make it interesting he has to make a random choice between 6 'chutes. One of them has a chute but no connection ropes.

Ha ha, Russian roulet sky diving!

Would you sell your GS3 for a WP8 phone?

I'm wondering if its worth hanging on to my ATT GSIII phone and starting a whole new 2 year contract or if I should return it and wait for the Windows phone 8 to come out. Personally, I'm bored as hell from iphones and Android just never seems to be quiet there yet. After seeing the demo of WP8, it really got me interested. It basically takes the best of iOS and Android and mixes it all in a fresh new package.
I still got 3 weeks to return mines to the AT&T store, is anyone else here considering switching to a WP8 phone? I'm also interested to see what the new iphone looks like too. One thing that pisses me off about Android are that the iOS apps always look way way better than Android, Google really needs to start putting in some standards with these developers. I still can't play many of the Gameloft and EA games on this phone that I've purchased a while back.

Its all advertisement nothing elsr honestly i feel like wp is a little bit too boring customisation compared to android is no match only reason i stick whit android is because its open source and lot of customisation and so on..
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Your call, but you should know that windows phones are pretty locked down/ limited with modification. If that's something you like, then android is best.

I just switched from an iphone to the S3 and I'm not sure I agree with you about the IOS apps looking better. The ones I've used that they both have in common look pretty much the same to me. As a matter of fact, some of the android versions look nicer and have a better user interface.
I have zero interest in the windows phone. Until they can compete with the number and variety of apps available for ios and android, it won't appeal to me at all.
btw, I also have 3 weeks left in my return period and I'm pretty sure I've decided to stick with the S3. Sure it has its bugs and annoyances but so will every phone. The only two things that have kept me from committing 100% to it so far are the battery life problems and the wifi problems. Time will tell.......

I wonder what the new excuse will be when the next version doesn't sell well at all. I believe the old Windows mobile still has more market share. Pretty pathetic.
It's not just Apple and android being entrenched. The os simply sucks comparatively and plenty of people simply do not like metro. Apple has a better walled garden and android has a better large open estate. Microsoft would have done better if they opened all the api and embraced developers. Instead you get a half ass iPhone. GG

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Your call, but you should know that windows phones are pretty locked down/ limited with modification. If that's something you like, then android is best.
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Personally, I'm tired of the many modifications, so far I left mines on stock. I've gotten to the point where all that ROM flashing has gotten old and I need to do real work. On my last phone, the HTC Vivid, all I ever did was flash ROM after flash ROM for no good reason, it felt like a damn crack addiction.

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[/COLOR]I wonder what the new excuse will be when the next version doesn't sell well at all. I believe the old Windows mobile still has more market share. Pretty pathetic.
It's not just Apple and android being entrenched. The os simply sucks comparatively and plenty of people simply do not like metro.
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I didn't like the Metro on the WP7, but that WP8 looks alot better better because you can resize them, they seem alot like widgets. Also, now you can use a MicroSD card, have dual-core processors, and have larger screens.
M$ seems to get their act straight this time around, they probably got tired of Apple taking their marketshare.

Metro is great, but having been burned by WebOS, I'd wait a year or two to see if WP8 takes off before investing in an ecosystem. My bet is they take about 7-8% marketshare and go nowhere from there. But who knows.
I think I'd take stock Jelly Bean over WP8 though.

There's a Windows style launcher on the market.

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Metro is great, but having been burned by WebOS, I'd wait a year or two to see if WP8 takes off before investing in an ecosystem. My bet is they take about 7-8% marketshare and go nowhere from there. But who knows.
I think I'd take stock Jelly Bean over WP8 though.
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I wonder what the new excuse will be when the next version doesn't sell well at all. I believe the old Windows mobile still has more market share. Pretty pathetic.
It's not just Apple and android being entrenched. The os simply sucks comparatively and plenty of people simply do not like metro. Apple has a better walled garden and android has a better large open estate. Microsoft would have done better if they opened all the api and embraced developers. Instead you get a half ass iPhone. GG
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I dont see the potential in windows phone honestly i mean its just plain boring i have tried one ...
At first it felt like a new toy and over the few first day i got bored it lacks customisation that alone worth staying whit android ...
Whit the new jelly bean 4.1 it will be very hard to get beaten by windows or even ios6 ...
The future is android from my point of view...
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I'm wondering if its worth hanging on to my ATT GSIII phone and starting a whole new 2 year contract or if I should return it and wait for the Windows phone 8 to come out. Personally, I'm bored as hell from iphones and Android just never seems to be quiet there yet. After seeing the demo of WP8, it really got me interested. It basically takes the best of iOS and Android and mixes it all in a fresh new package.
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I don't think it makes sense to ask others to a judgement call for you. Especially on an Android forum.
Re: iPhone and Android "not being quite there"—you do realize that's exactly what every reviewer says about Windows Phone 7?
Windows Phone 8 is a rewrite so I would not have high hopes for the first generation of phones. Also, the demos are made to impress. You should take them with a grain of salt.

Are you kidding me? I had to revert to an HD7 WP7 phone when I killed my Galaxy II two weeks before the Galaxy III launch and for those two weeks I wanted to stick sharp objects into my eye.
Pretty much any app worth having in WP7 costs $$$. The GPS/Nav sucks, searches are done with Bing and dealing with a corporate email account with multiple folders is just about the worst email experience ever on that phone.
I'm done experimenting with WP versions - go ahead and try WP8 when it comes out but Android seems to be a better, more open, more tweakable, more dev friendly ecosystem and I'll stay here...

Don't count Microsoft out. WP7 is a great OS.
I find the question odd seeing as the OS isn't out yet with it's new hardware. But having used WP7 I know that's it's going to be a great update. WP7 is a great OS, and while the phones might be under powered compared to apple and android phones, they still hold their own which says a lot about the optimization of the OS. Kudos to Microsoft for that. The only detracting thing is the apps, but with the new Windows 8 using Metro apps, I can easily see WP8 giving android and ios a run for their money.

While, i dont see myself standing in line for a Windows mobile device. I do enjoy the fact knowing that it will be another direction away from IOS...:good:

I am in agreement with you. We are not in need of another company hell bent on controlling us. For crying out loud why don't these company's see or understand this? I am partial towards Android. I don't mind Apple to much. Well with the exception of the whole let's sue everyone and there mother's attitude. That part pissed me off to no end. And I do hope it turns around and bites them in the ass. I do hope the never go anywhere. Because as much as I do like Android, I like the fact that Android has competition. Google is big enough and has enough money that if all competition were gone. They might just try to pull some Apple/Microsoft crap. I do think that Google and Apple are to hig as is. Just like our governments. And Microsoft is big also. But in a different way. They are like tha big dopey kid on the block. You know, the one that would like to make you his hitch but is to stupid and slow to do so? Lol!
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NIKKG said:
Personally, I'm tired of the many modifications, so far I left mines on stock. I've gotten to the point where all that ROM flashing has gotten old and I need to do real work. On my last phone, the HTC Vivid, all I ever did was flash ROM after flash ROM for no good reason, it felt like a damn crack addiction.
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I was like that with my HTC inspire and not so bad with my GSII. Flashed a new one every day or so. It was awful I had to try them all. I'm keeping my GSIII stock for now too. You can customize plenty through market
My bf had WP7 and it was awful. Looked nice but just wasn't practical he hated it, NEVER worked right. He had 4 within the firsts few weeks from button issues(however that was HTC issue)

Windows phones are fast and stable. I used the Samsung focus on mango for several months and I was sold on wp7. Not one single force close or lag. However, my HTC Titan had serious mic issues so I returned it and ended up with my galaxy skyrocket. I do like having the ability to customize with android, and I think the SIII would be worth the contract. The SIII will hold its value and if you decide to go wp8, just eBay or Craigslist your SIII when that time comes. I myself want the SIII but waiting for the right deal.
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Are you kidding me? I had to revert to an HD7 WP7 phone when I killed my Galaxy II two weeks before the Galaxy III launch and for those two weeks I wanted to stick sharp objects into my eye.
Pretty much any app worth having in WP7 costs $$$. The GPS/Nav sucks, searches are done with Bing and dealing with a corporate email account with multiple folders is just about the worst email experience ever on that phone.
I'm done experimenting with WP versions - go ahead and try WP8 when it comes out but Android seems to be a better, more open, more tweakable, more dev friendly ecosystem and I'll stay here...
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gps does not suck. I found it every bit as good as android if not better.
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lesd777 said:
gps does not suck. I found it every bit as good as android if not better.
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Google Maps is immeasurably better than Bing Maps.