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opera mini 5 b2

Now available on the market for free.... its pretty decent, worth having imo....
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i just saw that on cnet. i was wondering if anyone has used it yet, and what the verdict was, in comparison to dolphin

timothydonohue said:
i just saw that on cnet. i was wondering if anyone has used it yet, and what the verdict was, in comparison to dolphin
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Very, very, very fast server side processing browser... not as rich of an experience as the stock or dolphin, but much faster and does a pretty darn good job. Lots of extra stuff, like good bookmarks and cached browsing.

Great option.
FAST browsing. Great homepage/bookmarks , great tabs.
I always like having a secondary browser. Opera IMO is the best secondary browser and if you can deal with jpg compression and alot of "mobile" looking pages its a fanstastic primary browser.
I just wouldnt use it to show off the beauty of the phone.

Its about the same as the windows version and yes Hella fast... and has the option to upload pics or files unlike the stock or dolphin, and download files that are not supported on the device....

Is there a way to zoom in/out in sites? (maybe it's just too late and I can't figure it out).
Anyway, the hebrew is all messed up unlike the stock / Dolphin / HTC Desire browsers - so I'll have to skip that one.

It is a very nice browser i must admit. For the next few days I will be using it to replace Dolphin. Just as a test drive.

I don't like it.
Reasons:
A) When you scroll down a page (that's already "fully" loaded), the pictures show really nasty puke-colored placeholder boxes.
B) The full-screen mode still shows the notification bar. It's not really "full screen" then is it?... (That is by far my favorite feature about the Desire Rom.)
C) There's no way to fine-grained zoom in to how you want. Double tap is either zoomed FAR out, or zoomed to 1 specific point. Why can't I choose my own zoom level?

Very fast browser & lite on memory. Will be playing more with it next few days...

Not bad for a first release.. I'm impressed.
Looking forward to future updates.. multi touch etc.

Pretty good, especially when you are getting weak signal.

What's your favorite web browser?

I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?

eaglesteve said:
I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?
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I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.

MacGuy2006 said:
I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.
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Will try out everyone that you guys recommend.

Skyfire has at least one advantage over the ****ty native browser - it supports file download other than apk file, whereas the ****ty native browser can't even support file download. I can't believe how crippled it is, and wonder if that **** is from Google or Samsung.

With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.

bayerischbeer said:
With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.
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Thanks for this info bayerishbeer. Will get Astro filemanager right away.

How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?

drleospaceman said:
How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?
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Is Opera mobile available for Android? I can't find it in the Market Place.

theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho

soraxd said:
theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho
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Have used Opera mini on iPhone. It's really really lousy.
Will try out dolphin. Thanks!
edit: is it Dolphin Browser HD? or Dolphin Browser? What's the difference? I see.... HD is for Froyo.

The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
I never liked Skyfire on Windows Mobile - it's actually sending you screen grabs from rendering happening on their servers, so it was always laggy and slow to pan and zoom for me. Opera Mini is good if you don't have 3G data, since it's preprocessed and sent in a compressed form, but because the phone is rendering this custom preprocessed data and not the original HTML it doesn't support dynamic features.

Mithent said:
The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
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By iPhone standard, it is.
Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?

The stock browser works best for me. I've tried Dolphin, Opera and Skyfire and they all seem sluggish... Steel is good too.

Skyfire is sluggish, stock browser works great, no need to change it and it download all you want just learn how.

No problems with the stock browser here. It flies compared to Skyfire and works just as well as Dolphin.

Opera Mini 5.1 along with "Make it Default Browser"
Why?
- Opera is clearly the fastest in loading/displaying pages. Absolutely no contest
- 90% of the time I'm no under HSDPA coverage or Wifi, so moved megabytes matter
If only Opera Mini would get pinch zoom, then it would be perfect for me.
I don't need Flash or in-browser JS, which Opera Mini lacks.
For those occasions when in-browser JS is required, I use the built-in browser. Much better than Dolphin HD, which is very sluggish.

Try xScope. It works for me and somewhat better than Dophine.

I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.

eaglesteve said:
I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.
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I've taken a look at all these, and the one that I like the most is xScope. It is very similar to the Atomic Browser that I use on iPhone. The things I like about this browser are:
- I think it is faster than the stock browser and smoother too.
- One quick gesture to reveal the web address bar, and autotically hide it when page is loaded to give as much real estate as possible to the user
- One stroke gesture to move from tab to tab, exactly like what I was having in iPhone.
- Multitouch zooming, one finger zooming, as well as double tab to zoom in and out.
- Able to download more file types, although still not covering as comprehensively as what the Atomic browser for iPhone could.
- Able to open link in the background by long press. This usually is the way I consistently beat Opera Mini in terms of loading speed. In a forum like this, I open all the links that want to visit first, and buy the time I finish reading the first tab, the others are already fully loaded waiting for me to read. That means zero loading time effectlvely for all the links. Opera Mini can't do that.
- I wish there is a gesture (such as double finger swipe down) to close the current tab like what Atomic browser could do.
- Coupled with the higher resolution and bigger screen size, I feel that it is even more enjoyable surfing on Samsung Galaxy S than my 3GS.
I'm pretty happy with it for now, and would make it my main browser, until better one comes along.
One question: What is the difference between the free and paid version? What additionally benefits are there going to the paid version?

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Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?
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I've not had much personal experience with it - I still have a Windows Mobile phone at the moment, but will be getting a Galaxy S soon (will be as a carrier upgrade next month). The opinion I had of the stock browser was what I've seen of it when compared to the iPhone's Safari and Opera Mobile on WM (IE isn't worth thinking about), so was just a little surprised and wondered if it wasn't so great in real-life use. I didn't know you had to go through hoops to download things with it.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with other options for Android, but I've tried Opera Mini and Skyfire on Windows Mobile. Given the nature of those applications, I doubt they're very different on Android.

Whats your choice of browser?

We have a few browsers to choose from, stock, Dolphin HD, Skyfire and the upcoming Opera Mobile and Firefox Mobile
Stock browser is not the fastest according to some tests, the champion goes to Skyfire
Dolphin HD beats stock over functionality from my own use, but is the slowest among the three
Opera Mobile is known to consume 80% less data, but user comments are not so positive
Firefox mobile is now available for G2, haven't try yet
So whats your pick?

Almost every site I would go to has an app so there is no need for my browser, so I stick with stock since its not used often...
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

o>c said:
Opera Mobile is known to consume 80% less data, but user comments are not so positive
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Let me clarify:
Opera Mini is browser, which compresses data - when I was using Galaxy i7500 it was the fastest browser (not only in downloading pages, but in rendering too).
Opera Mobile is normal browser, not compressing data. I did not test it, but comments aren't very good.

I been using Dolphin HD. I like the side bar bookmarks, and the gestures. Plus it is faster than the default, IMO
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I am digging dolphin HD too on the g2.
I tried dolphin when I had a slide and it was HORRIBLY slow (even overclocked to 844mhz). It's smooth like butter on my g2 clocked at 1.497 and flash works great.

I have been loving the Firefox, get all my bookmarks synced without any other crap app. The Beta2 release is a bit better than the first, but little things still dont work correctly. For me the only thing not working properly are the shift and alt keys of the physical keyboard. They work but you have to hold them down while pressing the other key. Not a biggie, and the browser runs smooth as glass for me.

i use skyfire in desktop mode for facebook and everything

Love Dolphin HD for the plugins like desktop mode and speed dial. Also I'm digging the gestures and themes. And of course the tabbed browsing with thumbnails available is fantastic! Best over all experience if you have good data speeds.
I did numerous speed tests using a stopwatch with Dolphin versus stock on very large pages. It was basically a tie with flash either enabled or disabled.
Opera Mobile is VERY fast! Great card style thumbnails for window switching (stock neeeeds this). But no flash, desktop mode, and doesn't render the whole page at once. The partial rendering adds speed but if you scroll quickly its annoying. Still has a few kinks. I recommend keeping Opera handy for super slow connections.

I have Firefox, Opera and Stock installed. And honestly I use the stock more often than any other browser. It seems that the other browsers are terrible at compatibility when browsing non-optimized sites. I use forms a lot and they are awful.
In Firefox each time I typed something into a form-box or selected something from a drop-down menu it had to reload the page. Frustrating to say the least. At least in Firefox they work; in Opera, the forms work half of the time. If I can't log in, what's the point?
Stock may be somewhat slower at rendering, but its compatibility saves me a lot of time.

I've been testing the default, Skyfire, and Dolphin HD for 4 weeks and I typically choose Dolphin now as my GoTo browser. Here are the three main reasons:
1. I need the ability to Toggle between Desktop and Mobile on various sites
2. I tweet about a lot of Websites and the Dolphin Tweet plugin actually grabs the Title of a page while simultaneously shrinking the URL, yet still allows me to edit.
3. I also read a lot of pages and if they don't have a mobile version, I use a plugin for Google Mobilizer to strip away formatting and make it easy to read.
Since I have a G2, I use Menu+S to pull up Share options with Dolphin Tweet. I also use Menu+M to use Google Mobilizer. Keyboard shortcuts are handy.
As for speed, they are all pretty comparable. I still use Skyfire on Flash Video sites.
Hope this helps!
Ghostcreamy
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why are you leaving out xscope? its a perfectly legitimate browser which is the fastest by far.

Firefox is a little late! Dolphin was firefox to me when I had the G1, firfox should just but dolphin and change the name.

ms93 said:
Let me clarify:
Opera Mini is browser, which compresses data - when I was using Galaxy i7500 it was the fastest browser (not only in downloading pages, but in rendering too).
Opera Mobile is normal browser, not compressing data. I did not test it, but comments aren't very good.
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Anyone know if the Opera mobile will the same kind of forum posting that mini can do? I HAVE to use opera for posting online for school as no other browser will handle the way it works.

xxJPY Froyo 2.2.1 general internet rendering issues

Update:
Some headway is being made on this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907659&page=8
Ok, here's the damage report.
Serendipity ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
Phoenix ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
Firefly ROM: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard (with latest version ONLY)
Cognition 3.0x: animated GIF WORKS AND DOES NOT checkerboard
ROM Kitchen: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard (with XWJS3 w/2.2 browser ONLY)
Perception 10.x: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard
di11igaf ROM: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard
Ultimate ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
I have tested all ROMs released that were developed based on JPY Froyo 2.2.1. This includes the latest Phoenix, Perception, Serendipity, Doc Gingerborg, and others. I spent 2 entire sleepless nights doing complete flashes from scratch, without any data on the phone, and came up with this out of all of them.
While in general they are good, fast, and stable, there are a number of issues they are having that I believe are inherent to the base firmware. Some are fixable, such as the Wifi battery drain bug; others, I'm not sure. The main one, in my opinion, are general issues with the internet/browser rendering of Froyo.
The problems are as follows:
1. Animated GIFs do not render properly. They are very random and sometimes to not work at all. You should try it and see for yourself.
2. Trying to type into fields are VERY hit and miss. For example, when browsing to a forum, such as this one, when responding to a thread, try clicking in the field where you type the response; what happens is that the cursor goes WAY up the screen, while you are left staring at the bottom of the blank white space. This happens in any forum. Some forums do not have apps developed for mobile, so it renders it useless.
3. Tapping and holding (moving) the page around in general is very iffy. Most of the time you can see a checkered background when this happens, instead of it being seamless, like it is in Froyo 2.2 ROMs. It's easy to see this on the Google homepage when it opens.
We all know that Android OSes use a cut down version of the Dolphin browser. So I installed Dolphin HD. Same problems. Only when I installed mobile Firefox as well as mobile Opera, do the problems disappear. It seems that if you open these browsers, go to a page that has animated GIFs, it sort of "kick starts" the rendering engine, from which point animated GIFs start working in the Dolphin based browser. However, the moment you close mobile Firefox or Opera, the animated GIF problem returns. Also, the issue is that using those browsers are not a solution, since they are not fully featured, underperform, slow, and are in general underdeveloped, and not suitable for daily use. I also tried taking the browser from the older versions and putting it in the new ones, but it didn't help.
That's basically all I came up with for now. That made the experience a break-it deal for me, so I simply moved back, in this case, to Perception 9.5, which works flawlessly. Any of the ROMs based on the older 2.2 Froyo firmware work perfectly.
If anyone has anything to add to this thread, that's great. This is mainly to see whether or not the ROM devs here can actually fix such a thing, or if it's something lower level. Some input from the ROM devs would be great.
If mods do not think this is the proper place for this topic, please feel free to move it.

What site is giving you problems with the gifs...I'll go try it?
Mac

Any site that has animated GIFs. Try this one:
http://www.animatedgif.net/

ajm786 said:
Any site that has animated GIFs. Try this one:
http://www.animatedgif.net/
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Well..the top banner on that site is working fine for me..as well as clicking on any of the sites that offer animated gifs... All of the animated gifs I see are ...well..animated....?
So...what exactly am I to look for to see if they aren't working properly..and I am using Phoenix 2.0 stock browser..
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OK...I see what you talking about now...it's the embedded re-direct adds that aren't showing up for you...correct ?
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No. If you reload the page, or back out of that one and go to another, it will randomly not work. Not the top GIF one, but all the small GIFs that are supposed to be animated.
Some other people were complaining of this same issue. It's hit/miss and very random.

I have to agree. When scrolling around a large image in the browser, it starts resizing randomly. I also have not been able to get any animated gifs to work in the browser.

i noticed that when scrolling up/down a page with large images, the stock browser reformats the text & breaks up images so part of the text & image looks smaller while the rest is original size. when i finish scrolling, the text & images are reformatted correctly. it's not a big deal to me. animated gifs that don't animate aren't a big loss to me either, i find them annoying
sent from my captivate + di11igaf 3.0.2 + speedmod k12k

sublimaze said:
i noticed that when scrolling up/down a page with large images, the stock browser reformats the text & breaks up images so part of the text & image looks smaller while the rest is original size. when i finish scrolling, the text & images are reformatted correctly. it's not a big deal to me. animated gifs that don't animate aren't a big loss to me either, i find them annoying
sent from my captivate + di11igaf 3.0.2 + speedmod k12k
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Well, there are some forums that use animated GIFs (like weather), so it renders it useless.
I could possibly live without the animated GIF, but posting in a forum is basically impossible using the ROM. Try it on these forums (NOT using XDA app).

JPY browser has terrible issues for me.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I agree, the JPY browser is almost un-usable for me. Dolphin Mini has been my replacement so far.

ajm786 said:
Well, there are some forums that use animated GIFs (like weather), so it renders it useless.
I could possibly live without the animated GIF, but posting in a forum is basically impossible using the ROM. Try it on these forums (NOT using XDA app).
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Not its not as i just posted this from my phone using dolphin hd mate

may want to try an older browser along with an older, non-2.2.1 libwebcore.so found in /system/lib.
this is one of the main reasons i didnt want to even make a 2.2.1 rom, its decent, the browser loads pages faster generally i think, but it checkerboards like an iphone 3g, along with the other problems you mentioned. theres other things i dont like about it but thats not what this thread is for, but changing those files may help with those problems.

di11igaf said:
may want to try an older browser along with an older, non-2.2.1 libwebcore.so found in /system/lib.
this is one of the main reasons i didnt want to even make a 2.2.1 rom, its decent, the browser loads pages faster generally i think, but it checkerboards like an iphone 3g, along with the other problems you mentioned. theres other things i dont like about it but thats not what this thread is for, but changing those files may help with those problems.
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I'm intrigued. Is the libwebcore.so responsible for "rendering" webpages? I might load up Phoenix again to give it a shot.

shaolin95 said:
Not its not as i just posted this from my phone using dolphin hd mate
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I'm confused. As soon as I load up a reply page and click in the area to type, the "cursor" goes way up the page and is basically impossible for me to type. I have to scroll up and as soon as I enter one letter, the screen goes way back down the blank area, and I have to rinse/repeat. For each letter.

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I'm intrigued. Is the libwebcore.so responsible for "rendering" webpages? I might load up Phoenix again to give it a shot.
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im not saying im 100% sure it will work as i havent tried it, but it should. im gonna try it tonight before i release a 2.2.1 build, and if it works, ill include and post back here and let you know.
worst case senario browser FC's, but its worth a shot if it does work.

di11igaf said:
im not saying im 100% sure it will work as i havent tried it, but it should. im gonna try it tonight before i release a 2.2.1 build, and if it works, ill include and post back here and let you know.
worst case senario browser FC's, but its worth a shot if it does work.
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Yeah, just tried it, and it didn't work. Loaded up a 2.2.1 based ROM (Doc ROM), replaced the libwebcore.so with a one from Perception 9.5, and it just FCs the browser when trying to type in a blank field.

ajm786 said:
Yeah, just tried it, and it didn't work. Loaded up a 2.2.1 based ROM (Doc ROM), replaced the libwebcore.so with a one from Perception 9.5, and it just FCs the browser when trying to type in a blank field.
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did you replace the browser as well, i was saying replace both, even then it may not work, but if you didnt youll have a better shot of it working with a browser from the same build you got the libwebcore from

di11igaf said:
did you replace the browser as well, i was saying replace both, even then it may not work, but if you didnt youll have a better shot of it working with a browser from the same build you got the libwebcore from
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Yes. When I got the FC, the next thing I did was replace the browser with one from Perception 9.5, and then, as a final resort, rebooted. Same ordeal; FC when typing into a field (in landscape mode).

Go to any page that plays audio from the flash player.
Is it playing ok?
Audio plays at half speed for me. but video plays fine.

Browser issues?

I just got a Nexus 10 and I'm considering returning it because of all the crashes. (At least twice a day since I got it.) But I'm even having trouble finding a good browser. Does anyone else find they have these problems, or is it just me? Opera was my favorite browser on A100, but its unusable now.
In chrome mobile if you click anywhere near the X button (on a tab), the page will close. Chrome also causes tablet crashes. (Chrome is the stock browser on my tab.)
Boat takes up high battery
Dolphin - clicking on a tab closes the tab
Opera buttons/menus are so tiny it can't be used.
Firefox (regular And beta) - parts of or the whole screen goes black sometimes. (Resizing the page fixes it.) Requires effort to scroll fast. Some images don't ever load, like on Google images (middle of page). No speed dial or even a way to organize bookmarks. Previous session tabs don't reload automatically.
Maxthon - maxthon tablet - sometimes no links work, tab fonts too large
I'm using Firefox mostly, but don't like it for above reasons.
Not a browser but, my favorite keyboard on my a100, Thumb keyboard - if i click near the top edge of the comma key, I get an apostrophe. (Rt. Side) also, it becomes erratic sometimes, like cursor jumping to the wrong places.
Do you have these issues, or did I get a bad Nexus? Thanks.

I still would like to hear if anyone is having these troubles on the Nexus 10, but I think I found happiness with Ocean Browser. I'm already familiar with it because it came pre-installed on my Acer A100, but I don't think they ever gave the name. It was re-branded or something. Glad I found it again. About the only thing it's lacking is the ability to rearrange bookmarks on the screen. But you can use folders. I think I found the winner.
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