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Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
jambo89liam said:
That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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Severe battery drain problem

Severe battery drain problem happening to my Galaxy 3 in recent days whatever ROM or kernel I use.
Still under warranty for 6 months +. So I given to Service Centre.
At first they just formatted and reloaded with DDJP2.
Then I argued to provide a new battery and convinced from my side that the battery is the culprit.
And wow, they convinced and promised me to give a new battery in next week as they are out of stock now.
But my doubt is...
The problem is as follows:
The cell fully charges, indicated that the battery is fully charged.
When I unplug the charger, the battery indicator comes immediately to zero from 100 within 2 minutes with minimal phone or data usage. And it automatically switches off.
If I switch it on again even without charging, it again shows 100% charge.
So the question is, Is it the damaged battery the culprit is? Or some motherboard problem or what?
I am unable to judge the problem!!!
As it is proved that the service centre people are real dumb Is it time to switching to newly announced Symbian or only Galaxy 3 sucks!!!

Had similar problem with my Nokia which made me switch to Galaxy 3 few months back
When i had that kinda problem with Nokia the battery was sort of swelled and was deformed here and there. So i was sure my battery's dead.
If your battery looks good as new then the problem is with the chip.

Same prob I m having.. U need to do sum cycles to get Ur battery wrkin fine as said by rob_gangte ..
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darksyde18 said:
Had similar problem with my Nokia which made me switch to Galaxy 3 few months back
When i had that kinda problem with Nokia the battery was sort of swelled and was deformed here and there. So i was sure my battery's dead.
If your battery looks good as new then the problem is with the chip.
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Battery is looking as good as new.
If it is a chip problem. Then what to do?
You know Samsung Customer Care here are real Dumb *ss!!!
Please give me some idea.

ranadip.bswas said:
Same prob I m having.. U need to do sum cycles to get Ur battery wrkin fine as said by rob_gangte ..
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Cycles failed. Anything else?

sekhargreen said:
Cycles failed. Anything else?
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Drain the battery completely. If it switches off by itself, try to switch on and repeat this until it is completely drained. Switch off ur mobile. Wipe battery stats in cwm. Do not switch on and charge it for atleast 2hrs. Then switch on and repeat this for few cycles

This has been happening to ur phone since u bought it or after previous flashing...
If after some recent flashing then u hav ur answer (revert back to eclair then reflash) !!!

[Q] battery callibration

I installed Batery Callibration in my Galaxy Note .. Love this app...... Increase so much my life battery
One question: How often I Calibrate My Battery??

1. After flash or update ROM.
2. When replace or pull out & put in battery for whatever reasons.
3. I do calibration about once a week.
I always drain battery till it is 1% before plug in charger after hit the calibration button.
Battery time is acceptable to me...15+ hrs with normal use (stock ICS rooted).

Thank you very much for the tips. I Have Rocket Room V07 and Speedmod kernel 3.3. With 3g and Wifi turn on all day, my battery last 24 hs.....Very good for me

which battery calibration app?
andreborg75 said:
I installed Batery Callibration in my Galaxy Note .. Love this app...... Increase so much my life battery
One question: How often I Calibrate My Battery??
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LowDef said:
1. After flash or update ROM.
2. When replace or pull out & put in battery for whatever reasons.
3. I do calibration about once a week.
I always drain battery till it is 1% before plug in charger after hit the calibration button.
Battery time is acceptable to me...15+ hrs with normal use (stock ICS rooted).
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A question for both of you and anyone else who's using such a tool: which battery calibration app do you use? Any views on how good (or not) these apps are?
Cheers

I use battery monitor widget pro, very effective and good widget also.
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andreborg75 said:
I installed Batery Callibration in my Galaxy Note .. Love this app...... Increase so much my life battery
One question: How often I Calibrate My Battery??
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Never. That app does NOTHING. You have fallen victim to the placebo effect.
Wiping battery stats does NOTHING on any Android device other than change the behavior of Settings->Battery. It does nothing with regards to fuel gauge calibration.
The fuel gauge chipset in our device does not require calibration and calibration techniques cannot be applied to it. (With one exception - resetting it after a reboot on low battery can have a temporary positive effect - but you can just wait a few hours for it to converge.)
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A question for both of you and anyone else who's using such a tool: which battery calibration app do you use? Any views on how good (or not) these apps are?
Cheers
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As stated above - they are 100% useless and worthless on our device and any other Samsung Galaxy S1/S2 family device.

To enthropy512, thank you very much for your hardwork for us here in xda. How about a tread that says, after a battery full, you take out the battery for 3 mins then put it back again.

largeruk said:
A question for both of you and anyone else who's using such a tool: which battery calibration app do you use? Any views on how good (or not) these apps are?
Cheers
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Battery Calibration, try following the procedure stated therein and verify by yourself if it works.
At least you have nothing to lose but very poor battery performance.
You guys should have ever heard of an alternative battery product named MUGEN that selling original and extra sized batteries world wide including range of Galaxy batteries. They also supply a battery calibration app on Play Store regardless phone models but it's for rooted phone only. If this app does nothing they wouldn't bother wasting their time developing it.
Another thing is to investigate what apps or services prevent your phone from going into deep sleep, also try freezing apps or services you aren't using.
Those are my tricks for having battery performance improved.

andreborg75 said:
I installed Batery Callibration in my Galaxy Note .. Love this app...... Increase so much my life battery
One question: How often I Calibrate My Battery??
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Hi can i have the link for the calibration app ???

Search battery calibration on google play...its free

Your phone had to be root to use battery calibration

i dont trust any battery callibration app or battery power saving app
i only used cpu spy and betterbatterystats
my point is check ur device, does it goes to deepsleep everytime screen turned off. if it doesnt check using bbs what apps making ur device turned on/wake ur device. im very satisfied with this method. 1x full charge for 24 hr for my daily use and only 24 % battery drained for 24 hr if u didnt use ur device at all(standby)
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[Q] ROM problem or my battery?

Currently using Stepp_aospX 1.0.0-MR2.
When I'm watching a 30 minute YouTube video, the battery goes down by about 45%. When I turn off the phone and turn it back on, the battery jumps back up about 20-30%. Now I'm wondering if this is a problem with by battery or with the ROM.
Can anyone else get this issue to occur on their phone?

probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?

THEindian said:
probably the battery, how old is the battery? Any water damage?
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I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.

Two years is a lot of time bud, thats the problem right there.. Batteries wear down, imagine how many times that battery has gone from 0% to 100% in the course of 2 years..
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Undiscovered said:
I'm using the same battery the phone came with (bought new 2 years ago). No water damage.
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Yeah, it sounds like you need a new battery. Anker makes great ones, they aren't too expensive, just buy them off of amazon. Before you do that, take out the battery and check for lumps or stuff like that.
Again, there is a 90% change that you just need a new battery

That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.

Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.

elmagnificado said:
Someone once said to charge the battery to 100% then clear battery stats then drain it down to almost 0% then clear stats again. then charge it back to 100% in one sitting. that helps me sometimes when flashing an old backup and the percentage jumps around after a reboot.
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Thats a placebo. It really doesn't do very much. If you get random battery level jumps, its a sign that you need a new battery

Spin it
Undiscovered said:
That's what I was afraid of. No lumps on the battery (thankfully). Probably not going to buy a new battery though. Waiting for a good deal on a Galaxy SIII or Nexus 4.
Thanks guys.
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Ive found that a lot of times you can't see it starting to bow, but if you spin it you can tell. If it just spins 90-180* then it's probably ok, but of it spins more than that it's bad. I grab the battery charger + 3 batteres from eBay for under $10. Now I just swap batteries rather than charge the phone.

Axon 7 custom rom with best battery life?

Hi all!
I have been getting bad battery performance on my axon 7 for as long as I can remember but didn't really want to try custom rom because I'm afraid it will void warranty. SOT reported with GSam is 2h30m. Fast forward the phone was water damaged and fixed locally so my warranty is voided anyway. So I think it's time for me to try out custom rom.
My main concern is battery life then functionality. Any recommendation for rom & kernel would be much appreciated! Thank you very much!

janthe6th said:
Hi all!
I have been getting bad battery performance on my axon 7 for as long as I can remember but didn't really want to try custom rom because I'm afraid it will void warranty. SOT reported with GSam is 2h30m. Fast forward the phone was water damaged and fixed locally so my warranty is voided anyway. So I think it's time for me to try out custom rom.
My main concern is battery life then functionality. Any recommendation for rom & kernel would be much appreciated! Thank you very much!
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You might have to replace your battery . I did mine myself in about a half an hour . Batteries are cheap and the fix is relatively easy.

janthe6th said:
Hi all!
I have been getting bad battery performance on my axon 7 for as long as I can remember but didn't really want to try custom rom because I'm afraid it will void warranty. SOT reported with GSam is 2h30m. Fast forward the phone was water damaged and fixed locally so my warranty is voided anyway. So I think it's time for me to try out custom rom.
My main concern is battery life then functionality. Any recommendation for rom & kernel would be much appreciated! Thank you very much!
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Guy above is right. But I'd like you to try something. Before changing it, use Accubattery to see how much capacity your battery had. After 2 charges you'll have a pretty good idea of how utterly destroyed it is. I managed to get 7 hours of SOT when the phone had about a month of use, now I'm getting 4:30. My battery says 2400 mAh.
Also, there's a bigger battery going around, a Losoncoer 3650 mAh battery. It's reportedly the same size and all. If you happen to try it out, let me know. I want to change the battery and i still haven't decided whether to buy one of those or an original one.
For comparison, the original one is 3140 mAh

patio54 said:
You might have to replace your battery . I did mine myself in about a half an hour . Batteries are cheap and the fix is relatively easy.
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Do you see improvement? You didn't have to do anything to the phone after the battery swap right?

janthe6th said:
Do you see improvement? You didn't have to do anything to the phone after the battery swap right?
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you don't if you don't want to, and how would you not see the improvement after basically doubling (or more) the battery capacity?
Maybe you'll need to download a battery calibration app, those basically delete the calibration file and the phone should generate a new one

stop using multiple battery monitors on android system.Android already got monitor build in

janthe6th said:
Do you see improvement? You didn't have to do anything to the phone after the battery swap right?
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I bought my phone used in January. I was told it was a little over a year old . It was immediately obvious to me that the battery had issues and I had no insight into the charging history . Accubattery pro told me the capacity was just over 1800 mAh or 58%. I just rebooted after the install of the new battery and now it's it's back where it should be and working great.

Predatorhaze said:
stop using multiple battery monitors on android system.Android already got monitor build in
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Lol what. Accubattery is just to get the capacity estimate. After using it you should just decide whether to change the battery or not.

My battery is at 1700 mAh or 55%. I guess I'm replacing my battery first then. Is there any advice as to slow down battery deterioration process?
Edit: back to the custom rom question, does it make much of difference on battery life over stock?

janthe6th said:
My battery is at 1700 mAh or 55%. I guess I'm replacing my battery first then. Is there any advice as to slow down battery deterioration process?
Edit: back to the custom rom question, does it make much of difference on battery life over stock?
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Yes to both. First, charge the phone only up to 80% or so. that will prolong the battery lifespan about 3 times. There's a mod that can be installed via Magisk, that automatically stops charging when it arrives to a given percentage, then starts charging after it uses a couple percent.
And custom ROMs can be much better in the battery life department, but not always. In my case I get about 4.5h SOT on stock and 5.5H on Oreo AEX
(My battery seems to have 2400 mAh, also want to change it, but I have completely decent SOT)
P.S. Please do tell me if you buy a 3650 mAh battery. I'm thinking on buying one of those. They say that they are the same size than the original ones. plus they are not that much more expensive

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Yes to both. First, charge the phone only up to 80% or so. that will prolong the battery lifespan about 3 times. There's a mod that can be installed via Magisk, that automatically stops charging when it arrives to a given percentage, then starts charging after it uses a couple percent.
And custom ROMs can be much better in the battery life department, but not always. In my case I get about 4.5h SOT on stock and 5.5H on Oreo AEX
(My battery seems to have 2400 mAh, also want to change it, but I have completely decent SOT)
P.S. Please do tell me if you buy a 3650 mAh battery. I'm thinking on buying one of those. They say that they are the same size than the original ones. plus they are not that much more expensive
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What rom are you use right now? I get about 3.5 to 4 SOT on stock. Considering to flash AEX, but I not sure it worst it - stock rom have pretty good camera, spearker, "google now on tap" which is very important to me (google assistant hater)
The 3650 mAh is completely fake. I think it is impossible to place a bigger battery in the same space in the machine