Installed energy ROM 3/14 and was wondering if super su can really remove Root. Would i keep my ability to use titanium backup?
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Yes and No
It appears Super SU can provide a temporary unroot, but the way you would have to remove root fully and properly is to flash completely back to stock. May I ask why you want to unroot in the first place? The only reason I can think is that you plan on returning it for service under warranty. If this is the case, as you may or may not be aware, Motorola has an embedded a nice little root checker in the phone. I have read some conflicting posts about whether or not returning to stock resets the root counter, but you may face some trouble due to that. Perhaps someone who has attempted to get service after being rooted can chip in?
As for titanium backup, it will not work without root, because the app would be unable to access user and system files that hold your settings.
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I just did a temporary root with z4. I did temporary cuz rooting I noticed made my phone slower & plus I'm not very entertained with the rooting thing. I have not came across anything super great yet. But what I want ask is since I'm TEMPORARY rooted, if I delete the 2 stock demo games then reboot, I know I'm not going be rooted anymore but will the phone be fine & will the stock apps still be gone?
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As to whether or not the phone will be fine afterwards, i can't really answer. I've never done a temporary root, but i guess it's safe as they added the option.
And yes, whatever changes to make to your phone will stick after reboot, regardless of root status.
I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.
What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?
there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.
MattSkeet said:
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.
OK thanks, I'll give that a try.
I need help guys. I'm currently rooted running ParinoiAndroid 3.00 and Franco Kernel #82. I'm trying to download the Good for Enterprise App from the Play Store and install for my work email, but the app won't install becasue of my Root status. Is there a way to hide the root status from this app at all times. I really don't want to unroot my phone.
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Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.
rhoadster91 said:
Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I gave it a try and it didn't work.
Any other ideas????
Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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chrisrozon said:
Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Gjohnson7771 said:
Any other ideas????
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Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.
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I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.
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Ok, that's not good. I guess I will need to do more research on unrooting 4.2.2.
And no this is my only device. I have a couple of old Iphones but that won't do me any good. Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?
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Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?
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After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.
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After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.
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I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.
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I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.
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I would have tried to check it myself first before suggesting you the solution (I had even downloaded the app) but turns out setting up Good Enterprise requires more than just downloading and installing it. I am not sure if it checks the root status periodically but in this case looks like the only option we have is to hope that it checks only during initiation. However, if the app is any good, I think it will check root status periodically to maintain security (because a lot of app information is compromised on a rooted phone)
Also, I do not think you will brick your phone if u attempt to root 4.2.2. Simply rebooting it in fastboot mode will give you option to revert to stock even in the worst situations. Still, cannot rule out the risk.
Anyway, a simple Google Search revealed this which could be a potential solution
Well thanks for all the info. I'll see what I can figure out.
Un rooting is quite simple , nothing to worry about!
By the way, Good permissions can be set by your administrator. They have the option to allow root, to check every time, Or to check once. It all depends on how your company configures it.
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Well, I was able to use nexus 4 toolkit to uproot and relock the boot loader. The app install fine after that and is working properly.
Thanks for the replies. For some reason I was thinking I would have to return the phone back to stock to uproot it, I'm glad I was able to keep my custom ROM and kernel. 1 more question, was re-locking the boot loader necessary or could I have kept it unlocked?
voodoo ota root keeper has a temporary unroot option, grab it from the playstore , much easier than unrooting your phone, also root survives an ota from google. You probably could have left the bootloader unlocked.
easy way ??
An easy way to hide root is renaming the superuser app/apps in the below location.
/system/app
This method did the charm for me for few apps. But the disadvantage is, it will hide root for all apps..
Workaround
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163 - thread talking about workaround for GFE
I used the Superuser app to unroot, and now I have lost root access but some files are still showing up. I can't do a factory wipe because when it reboots I get the little Android guy with a red exclamation point on his stomach. I have to send this phone back to VZW since the microphone died and they are sending me a new phone, but I have to remove all root evidence. What do I do? Root Checker pro states that the Superuser application is not installed. SuperSU application version 1.25 is installed. I've tried rerooting but that fails as well. Any thoughts as to how I can delete all the files associated with root? I am still on stock rom and have titanium backup, but now that won't work either.
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I used the Superuser app to unroot, and now I have lost root access but some files are still showing up. I can't do a factory wipe because when it reboots I get the little Android guy with a red exclamation point on his stomach. I have to send this phone back to VZW since the microphone died and they are sending me a new phone, but I have to remove all root evidence. What do I do? Root Checker pro states that the Superuser application is not installed. SuperSU application version 1.25 is installed. I've tried rerooting but that fails as well. Any thoughts as to how I can delete all the files associated with root? I am still on stock rom and have titanium backup, but now that won't work either.
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Mattlegroff has a "root remover" app on the play store for a buck - just get that and you'll be good to go. Of course, if you've been rooted, its impossible to completely remove the evidence as they can check the root checker in recovery.
The dead android is stock recovery, you should be able to wipe from that (not that it would remove any root evidence, that's all in /system)
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Being rooted doesn't void any warranties anyways it's just frowned upon. Unlocking your bootloader however does void your warranty
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I want to root my S4, and thankfully it's still on MDL. I've been reading that the MF3 update has been forced upon some. My question is, what would be the best way to root without the update being forced upon me at reboot?
I plan on using the CASUAL root tool, which says that as well as root, it installs TWRP onto the device. I'm assuming that TWRP for our device has the loki patcher built in? That's the main thing that Confuses me is when that necessary to be used.
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I want to root my S4, and thankfully it's still on MDL. I've been reading that the MF3 update has been forced upon some. My question is, what would be the best way to root without the update being forced upon me at reboot?
I plan on using the CASUAL root tool, which says that as well as root, it installs TWRP onto the device. I'm assuming that TWRP for our device has the loki patcher built in? That's the main thing that Confuses me is when that necessary to be used.
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Turn off mobile date and wifi to avoid the update. Run CASUAL. Once you have run, install titanium backup. There is an apk you can freeze to block the update. Search the forums for which to freeze.
Or preferably flash a custom ROM. They remove the updater stuff : )
Edit: Freeze these
If you want to avoid the update, you should root your phone and freeze the following three apps using titanium backup or some similar app.
1. AT&T Software update Vxx_x_xxxx_x_x
2. FWUpgrade x.x.x
3. LocalFOTA vx_xxxx_x_x
As per: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762