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Evo vs Iphone poll... Deleted on Engadget?

Soooo... It looks like the Evo was starting to pull ahead and all of the sudden engadget deletes the article, poll and comments. Sadly, it was a little more balanced than the previous article that was an Apple sausagefest.
Then again, it probably didn't help Steve Jobs any that the android engadget app has a widget.

Here is the now dead link. I actually do wonder why they would delete it.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/09/iphone-or-evo-which-one-should-you-get/

They are apple biased.

gqstatus0685 said:
They are apple biased.
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Oh, come on. Engadget has been talking about how great the Evo is forever, they gave it an awesome review, and they're pretty reasonable overall.
I bet it just became too much of a hate-fest between fanboys on both sides.

ballr4lyf said:
Soooo... It looks like the Evo was starting to pull ahead and all of the sudden engadget deletes the article, poll and comments. Sadly, it was a little more balanced than the previous article that was an Apple sausagefest.
Then again, it probably didn't help Steve Jobs any that the android engadget app has a widget.
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Wow I'm surprised they actually did that. Surely they have some "reason" for it.

In the past they just disabled the comments, not delete the entire article. Anybody else remember when comments were disabled on engadget?

dschlaefer said:
Oh, come on. Engadget has been talking about how great the Evo is forever, they gave it an awesome review, and they're pretty reasonable overall.
I bet it just became too much of a hate-fest between fanboys on both sides.
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You are probably correct. The exchanges between fanboy camps can get pretty heated.

they are biased to whoever gives them more ad money. They pay the bills, guess who the boss is? Who spends more advertising revenue, apple or evo? Thats who gets more positive spin.

thats really nasty even to think about it haha cant they really deal with android?

I can't believe anyone still goes to that site.. it should be renamed to igadget.com
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I check it sometimes

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/conspiracy-theory-what-happened-to-the-evo-4g-vs-iphone-4-post/

This is what I wrote in the comments and look at the response I get (Joshua T. actually responded, but I don't quite understand what he said and how it relates to my comment):
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/...he-evo-4g-vs-iphone-4-post/comments/28543355/

Joshua is trying to say that they aren't worried which phone wins in the poll since that's our opinion not theirs. Basically I agree with them everyone is getting a bit paranoid. They gave the Evo a great review, and face it the iPhone is a good smartphone. Their reason for taking down the review was good of course if they had put up their explanation right away then people would had less conspiracies to make up.
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They were paid to take it down isnt it obvious. Why would they take our down? They've done numerous comparisons on products that have yet to be released how its this an exception?

donatom3 said:
Joshua is trying to say that they aren't worried which phone wins in the poll since that's our opinion not theirs. Basically I agree with them everyone is getting a bit paranoid. They gave the Evo a great review, and face it the iPhone is a good smartphone. Their reason for taking down the review was good of course if they had put up their explanation right away then people would had less conspiracies to make up.
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To me it was a pretty silly reason... it was a poll not a comparison. People were free to makeup their own minds. I think once something is put in print it should stay that way.

Grims said:
To me it was a pretty silly reason... it was a poll not a comparison. People were free to makeup their own minds. I think once something is put in print it should stay that way.
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Well like I said if they had put up their reason right away and just transferred the poll then it would have been fine, but the article itself was a comparison, which is silly to try to do an in depth comparison of a device you saw in a controlled environment for an hour to a device you were allowed to use for weeks.

You guys have got to be kidding me...a "cover up the EVO love" conspiracy? Come on! The EVO wasn't even winning the poll before they took it down. They even posted an awesome review of the EVO.
It's embarrassing reading some of the Android fan's comments about this around the internet.

MrDSL said:
I can't believe anyone still goes to that site.. it should be renamed to igadget.com
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Seriously,it should be.A luck we don't do a Apple vs MS post count.
But I am seriously looking for other website to get my tech news.Any suggestion?I'm a taker as long as it's not biased.
Thanks.

[Q] Xoom knock-off: Too true to be good?

I know (almost) everyone is still upset about missing the steal... um, deal of the year, but does anyone know anything about this:
http://www.applelover.org/android-30-p-1088.html
I saw this and instantly thought SCAM ALERT!!! But what if it's not? If it's true, this can certainly make up for missing that other deal. Also noteworthy, this is a presale. Another thing that I was leery of with the Xoom already officially in stores...

Yeah, I'm sooo calling shenanigans on this.
So many red flags all over this.
Besides, shipping date May 31? Yeah..

They must be working on a different calendar than we are, because you only get the special pricing before "28th Jeb"

Scam... order by Jeb? Jebuary? Oh yeah that's the month that comes after Nevember and before I-lost-500$-uary. If it's a realty good deal you are being taken for a ride.
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A co-worker showed me this and I told him don't jump out the window for it till I poll the community. That Jeb part definitely flagged me!!

The name of the tablet also seems to be photoshopped onto the Xoom... It might be a scam or just a very cheap knock-off from Shenzhen. Either way, I am still waiting for my 25% Xoom

funnycreature said:
The name of the tablet also seems to be photoshopped onto the Xoom... It might be a scam or just a very cheap knock-off from Shenzhen. Either way, I am still waiting for my 25% Xoom
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Sad part is, I was investigating this for my buddy around the time you guys were making off like bandits. He sidetracked me from my normal XDA browsing time!

I want one...I love my Xoom but this other thing has the ability to "access various types of flies, whatever the source". Take that Motorola!
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If you look at one of the photos, on the back of the device they have tape over "XOOM 12".
http://www.applelover.org/bmz_cache/c/c413d57912bfb65caa9bbc2ea2f9469b.image.750x498.jpg
I thought I recognized that long sleeve black sweater... He got some of the pics from these guys i think. (Look at silver sticker on third pic down). They are the same unit.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/motorola-announces.ars
Looks like a pic from a beta version of the XOOM. My opinion, you're better off spending your money on 500 fortune cookies and playing the lottery with the numbers on the back.

I can't say 100% but I think it is a scam...I mean even knock-offs don't look 100% the same as the original.

Dante_l1 said:
I want one...I love my Xoom but this other thing has the ability to "access various types of flies, whatever the source". Take that Motorola!
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+1 on sarcasm!

Wow, thank you op for letting us know about this great deal. I did not want to miss out on a great deal like that 25% off coupon.
I quickly ordered it and I got an immediate email saying that it will be shipped on Mirch 2, 2011. That was quick.
I was about to spend $500 on my weekly ECT (electroconvulsive therapy) but I jumped on this great deal instead.
Thanks again OP.

Wow... Really? I guess there's one in every group. Try this thing called reading before you write. The main purpose of this was to show my buddy I wasn't the only one who saw this as bogus. Thank you however on your insight. We are all definitely a lot better for it!!
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Apaca1ypse said:
Wow... Really? I guess there's one in every group. Try this thing called reading before you write. The main purpose of this was to show my buddy I wasn't the only one who saw this as bogus. Thank you however on your insight. We are all definitely a lot better for it!!
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He was trolling.

I really like the part where it says that they have 90 units in stock. Then just a couple lines lower they say "Only 95 units left"! You better buy it quickly.

Need a detail review

i want a users review about the device, most tech sites are being paid to show manipulated results. the only feedback that is worthy enough is the direct user review.
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qazibasit said:
most tech sites are being paid to show manipulated results. the only feedback that is worthy enough is the direct user review.
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I've been watching Technobuffalo's reviews on products for years, he always gives his honest opinion and isn't afraid to tell everyone if a product sucks.
Unfortionately I'm still waiting on mine It'll be here Friday!
Video Link>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOS2ILXD-0

Anandtech gave the most through analysis ever with no pay offs guaranteed. Check it out. It's a bloody good read.
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qazibasit said:
i want a users review about the device, most tech sites are being paid to show manipulated results. the only feedback that is worthy enough is the direct user review.
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Ouch... are you sure? I mean about the fraud? Where do you base this on? I love to see some manipulated results.

OP, clearly you didn't look very well otherwise you'd have found my review along with a load of others in that thread.

KidCarter93 said:
OP, clearly you didn't look very well otherwise you'd have found my review along with a load of others in that thread.
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+1000

I've had the phone for 2 weeks here's my review
It's dam fast dam sexy and a dam good screen hope that helps

appelflap said:
Ouch... are you sure? I mean about the fraud? Where do you base this on? I love to see some manipulated results.
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Not sure if it's paid. But I "WTF"ed when I saw S3 camera got 7 and Lumia 920 got 6.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5-Nokia-Lumia-920-and-Galaxy-S-III_id3285

Yeah, with all the controversy coming out about Samsung's paid 'user reviews', I would say definitely check out Anandtech's review - amazingly thorough and very hones. Covers casual and hardcore phone nerd interests very well.

Here's my review of the phone, trust me I got no extra money from HTC
http://droidhorizon.com/htc-one-first-impression/

Hey folks, planing to say good bye to my S2 to HTC One, but the questions i have are that the call quality, wifi reception, signal reception, battery and ear phone experience, any goods in HTC One?

patato2 said:
Not sure if it's paid. But I "WTF"ed when I saw S3 camera got 7 and Lumia 920 got 6.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5-Nokia-Lumia-920-and-Galaxy-S-III_id3285
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Oh wow, the 9 for the S4 is weird. He/she is definitely a big fan of the S4 camera. The discrepancy between the rates are too high to be taken seriously.

kobellza said:
Hey folks, planing to say good bye to my S2 to HTC One, but the questions i have are that the call quality, wifi reception, signal reception, battery and ear phone experience, any goods in HTC One?
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I have also switched from s2 to one.
Call quality - very clear and loud. Perfect.
Wifi - i have recorded speeds of 25mb download
Battery - solely depends on case by case basis i have not used it to play games or watch videos yet and lasts me days and a half before it dies.
Ear phone - its ok for free ear phone. Other members in this forum rate these better.
Hope it helps.
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I don't have the device but I went in to carphone warehouse today and they had a working demo unit and all I can say is WOW.This thing is so fast and slick,the sound is amazing and holding it in the hand it just screams quality
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First review is up

It's Clove, so not sure how much one can trust a company that sells phones when it comes to reviewing....but seems like a good job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmqiYPP6Q8

This isn't a hands-on review, it's basically spitting out facts already known. There's already reviews like this on YouTube.... Meh
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shook187 said:
This isn't a hands-on review, it's basically spitting out facts already known. There's already reviews like this on YouTube.... Meh
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Looks like a full review to me:
Sadly I can't post links yet.. go to the clove blog, there is a full text review, no video!

Well either way guys...it's what we've got till the likes of Verge, and my personal go-to tech bible, Anandtech, come up with the goods

paddylaz said:
It's Clove, so not sure how much one can trust a company that sells phones when it comes to reviewing....but seems like a good job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHmqiYPP6Q8
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This is like a support video or better to say advertising clip
I don't if it s right But I can see special support from UK websites this year for SonyMobile (that i like it)
& I saw like this from French websites in 2012 (maybe this is just personal opinion)
like other websites that specially support Samsung devices (AndroidAuthority in my eyes)
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I liked reading the review and several of the videos were interesting, too. In particular, I liked the video with all the Z2 video samples in it. The video quality and effects are very impressive to me, and the effects shown actually look useful and not just gimmicky.

Jon at Clove is very neutral in his reviews. Despite selling phones as they sell more than one company
Very imformative too

gavinfabl said:
Jon at Clove is very neutral in his reviews. Despite selling phones as they sell more than one company
Very imformative too
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Sounds like Jon's employer to me...
From what I've seen Clove do very good unbiased Demonstrations. Reviews would be more critical of a product.

To echo what phil9309 said earlier,
Having watched the video and read the blog - the blog review is a proper review whereas I suppose yes, the video is more a run-through of the phone and features.
Type in 'clove blog' into google it will come up directly.

Review link.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/03/11/...medium=rss&utm_campaign=sony-xperia-z2-review
Sounds good, I haven't really liked the ergonomics of the Z devices in the past which is why though I have been mostly impressed by them I've never purchased one.

paddylaz said:
Well either way guys...it's what we've got till the likes of Verge, and my personal go-to tech bible, Anandtech, come up with the goods
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Anandtech will never review it..it hasnt any sony smartlhone at all
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Seeing as how the phone's already available in Taiwan, shouldn't there be some Taiwanese reviews out already?

Ame123 said:
Anandtech will never review it..it hasnt any sony smartlhone at all
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Thats a sad fact, and i have no idea why! Anyone knows why ?

Haldi4803 said:
Thats a sad fact, and i have no idea why! Anyone knows why ?
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He's focused on devices popular in US. And they are bit of Apple-centric (not complaining, but simply stating a fact). Their reviews of Apple devices are some of the best reviews you can find.

New Review!
New review today from Android Authority:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=20sczbwIKQk

paddylaz said:
New review today from Android Authority:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=20sczbwIKQk
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I saw a few people disliked what he said about the speakers. Not sure who do believe though. Most people says it is as good as the M8, or even better.

paddylaz said:
New review today from Android Authority:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=20sczbwIKQk
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It's such a pathetic review. The hands-on videos had more information.
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I saw a few people disliked what he said about the speakers. Not sure who do believe though. Most people says it is as good as the M8, or even better.
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The speakers are as loud as the M8's.
Check this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbH7Jy6nIc
That Josh dude is just making a wild guess, I don't think he ever tested them for a comparison. Like i said, it's one of the most pathetic reviews I've seen.

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New review today from Android Authority:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=20sczbwIKQk
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Is he even serious? Its like he got ***** slapped before making the review. Or forced by the bosses to not put the Z2 above the competition. Totally no mentions of the extra RAM either? Wow!

KyleSforza said:
Is he even serious? Its like he got ***** slapped before making the review. Or forced by the bosses to not put the Z2 above the competition. Totally no mentions of the extra RAM either? Wow!
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I agree , felt like it was rushed. I seriously lol'd when he poured water on it. When he comments on the sound but doesn't even show it in the video? It feels like a first impression video not a review..

Why the panicked frenzy for Lollipop?

Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.

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Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.
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Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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vinaybaboo said:
Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.

glossywhite said:
Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.
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Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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vinaybaboo said:
Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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Thank you for your kindness and peaceful response. May God bless you my friend

glossywhite said:
your reactions just affirm the general mood in XDA - stressful and irrational.
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Goodnesss me mate !!
If people are excited so much about the new update, let them be.
I can say for sure, that I'am sure as hell excited, about it. And am eagerly awaiting for it, VERY. MUCH. EAGERLY.
And I check the forums every.single.day.
And yeah Im an ''geek'' too.
But theres no need to blast no about it if the community is excited about it
Sure, you,ve got the KK but the atmosphere shown here on XDA ( excitement), is whats made it to, what it is today
No offence mate
Peace

Dont see a big objective of this thread.
Members,
Please dont open a thread to express your opinions. I hope you understand that XDA has a large number of users and we might end up with so many number of threads with opinions of everything visible which would be mostly useless for the others. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMUNITY
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