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is it good? I'm only used to OLED.
The IPS display on the Nexus 7 looks good from what I've seen. IPS is known for decent viewing angles.
it depends on the OLED screen you're comparing it to.
the galaxy s2 has super amoled plus, which has a full rgb subpixel matrix, but only a resolution of 800x480. the full rgb subpixel matrix makes everything look clearer and sharper.
the galaxy nexus, galaxy note, and galaxy s3 use a pentile subpixel matrix. its something like rgbg, which makes the display look greenish. its not as sharp as a full rgb matrix, and the colours arent as vivid due to the lack of subpixels (ends up being around 66% less subpixels).
however, the main advantage of the oled displays is that their pixels can be turned off. this means that in movies and games, you have a 'true' black, whereas in led backlit LCD displays (unless it has full led backlight with local dimming) blacks will always seem greyish. oled displays also tend to oversaturate the colours. the other advantage is that since black means the led/pixel is turned off, it means that using a black wallpaper on oled displays will reduce power consumption and improve battery life.
the nexus 7 uses an IPS panel. the general idea is that all the pixels are aligned/parallel, which leads to the image looking sharper compared to TFT and TN panels. the nexus 7 also has a full RGB subpixel matrix which makes it much sharper, and in combination with the IPS setup, it leads to more accurate colour representation. however, as it is not an oled display and it does not have local dimming with a full led backlight (having such a setup would make the device much thicker), it is unable to render 'true' black and as a result, blacks end up looking a bit grey.
cant really say much about which one is better as it is a personal preference thing. some like the oversaturated colours of OLED as it seems more vivid, whereas others prefer the accuracy of IPS panels and sharpness.
at the moment, i own a galaxy note with a pentile amoled display, and i use a 37inch Panasonic TV for my PC display, which uses an IPS panel. i'd say both are pretty good in their own way, but i prefer the IPS panel simply because of the full set of subpixels and colour accuracy.
Waiting to see how hard I rage about the non-black backgrounds.
anandtech measured nexus 7 black at 0.37 nits, whatever that means.
as souai said, it really depends.
generally OLEDs have much better colors and look better, IPS is much better in sunlight though because it's brighter and has insanely good viewing angles up to 178 degrees.
I have a first gen asus transformer which uses and IPS screen and though it's not as impressive color/quality wise as the Galaxy S III and even my Galaxy Nexus (sometimes) it's still excellent and i've never been bothered by it.
and given the fact that the N7 has such a high pixel density it should look great, and the reviews have backed this up.
This isn't apples to apples here but comparing the gnex to the one x I say I definitely prefer the IPS display. Now this is the best version possible probably of its type but I'm happy for the n7 to get an IPS screen. Almost all reviews have talked about how nice it is, only complaint being a little warm and a little dim compared to some other IPS displays. I like my oled screen but since good IPS high res screens have come out, they seem to be superior to oled at the moment. Oled uses up lots of battery in anything other than very black biased setups. IPS has that slight gray to the black but most people are used to their computer monitors and TVs having this as well. I think we won't have to sorry as much about color uniformity as much either with IPS.
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thanks for the replies. it's helpful.
I'm about to trade for a GS3 that's how bad it is.. I personally love the over-saturated screen on the galaxy s3, as well as the ability to have black blacks because of amoled, but love the fastness of this phone. Can I root and change the colors?
you mean as saturated? Colors are as realistic as they can be.
Wait for a kernel with colour control? (IIRC colour control is possible with the N4, correct me if I'm wrong)
In the meantime you'll likely get used to the new screen.
No don't think you can edit the colors like you can with an amoled screen
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No don't think you can edit the colors like you can with an amoled screen
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I recall Morfic mentioning that him and Franco had found something; can't recall the specifics.
Edit: found a link FWIW haven't read anything more about it since then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34246126&postcount=23751
Okay thanks, Like the colors on the iPhone 5 look even better and more vibrant and I thought the screens were very similar?
Most people here are going to bash you with the "saturated" thing.
Personally I agree with you. There IS a place between washed out and over saturated. This phone fits closer to Washed out (not as bad as HTC screens, but it could stand to be a little brighter and more vivid). The colors ARE dull. The Lumia 920 is a great example of the middle factor. No where near as saturated as the S3 screen, but still bright and vivid colors while holding most of the true color. The whites on this phone are not even close to true also, which I think adds to making the other colors look more dull.
My opinion of course, everyone has their own personal taste. I get bashed all the time for not liking HTC's dull and lifeless screens, but to each their own.
The screen is a bit dull, especially at some of the lower brightness settings provided by Auto Brightness. Of course it will look way less saturated than an AMOLED screen, but I don't think that's the issue at hand here. I feel that it's more so a gamma and contrast issue rather than one of color reproduction, and that on these IPS displays the contrast is much more a factor of brightness than on AMOLED.
Compared to my calibrated IPS displays, the colors are decently accurate but the contrast is much lower.
Colors don't look washed to me at all, coming from a GNex also which is obviously very over saturated yet I'm still really enjoying this screen. I probably just don't have the experience with well calibrated screens to know if mine is washed out but the colors are pretty vibrant to me.
It did seem dull at first (I came from an sgs2) but now I've got used to it and actually I'm starting to prefer the more natural look the colours give...
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The screen is a bit dull, especially at some of the lower brightness settings provided by Auto Brightness. Of course it will look way less saturated than an AMOLED screen, but I don't think that's the issue at hand here. I feel that it's more so a gamma and contrast issue rather than one of color reproduction, and factor that on these IPS displays the contrast is much more a factor of brightness than on AMOLED.
Compared to my calibrated IPS displays, the colors are decently accurate but the contrast is much lower.
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i remember there being a setting for gamma and contrast on CM10? Hopefully this fixes my issue
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I'm about to trade for a GS3 that's how bad it is.. I personally love the over-saturated screen on the galaxy s3, as well as the ability to have black blacks because of amoled, but love the fastness of this phone. Can I root and change the colors?
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Oh yeah, over-satuation is so cool, nearly as cool as a pentile-matrix, where you can see the space between the subpixels.
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Oh yeah, over-satuation is so cool, nearly as cool as a pentile-matrix, where you can see the space between the subpixels.
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No need to attack him. He clearly stated that it was his personal preference, not "OMG AMOLED RULEZ". He can like whatever type he wants.
The blacks are just bad. The colors I can live with.
Is there any kernel available for nexus 7 to increase color saturation of the screen? Although my N7 screen looks fine, I am used to Amoled from my phone, so it would be great if I can increase the saturation. It would look awesome with games.
I tried this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
but doesn't help at all. No option to make it more saturated, but only less saturated.
Thanks!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S53aWRnZXRzLmJpZy50ZWdyYS5wcmlzbS50b2dnbGUiXQ..
Try this?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S53aWRnZXRzLmJpZy50ZWdyYS5wcmlzbS50b2dnbGUiXQ..
Try this?
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Hm..I don't think that app is the one i need..
I don't feel that the screen is washed out or anything like that in general. BUT what I really want is by rooting it and maybe increase the saturation so that it's more comparable to my AMOLED screen on my phone. I know there is an app for Nexus 4 that does exactly this, but I asked the dev if it would work on other devices as well, and he didn't reply at all. This was quite awhile ago actually..
BTW I haven't rooted my N7 yet and the only reason I may root is to increase color saturation.
Maybe someone else has more idea?
Isn't the opposite of washed out colors is saturated colors? Or am I just not understanding what you're wanting?
This should help with color saturation because washed out colors = desaturation. It's the only app I've seen.
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Isn't the opposite of washed out colors is saturated colors? Or am I just not understanding what you're wanting?
This should help with color saturation because washed out colors = desaturation. It's the only app I've seen.
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I re-read my comment, it seems fine..what didn't u understand? um..you know that AMOLED (the one on my phone) is extremely saturated display right? so I'm used to the display, but N7 display isn't too bad (not very washed out in GENERAL, as IPS is usually like this), but compared to AMOLED it IS washed out. Most people would be fine with this IPS display on N7, and I'm okay too actually, but it would be awesome if I can increase the color saturation to make it more saturated, closer to AMOLED.
Hope you understand my question..
so it's not the Prism I'm talking about. I want to increase the saturation entirely. Prism I heard only makes the screen washed out for like 30 seconds while watching movies or something. I don't really have any problem with this btw..
Thanks.
The problem is that it stays on. It helps with color saturation and contrast, it's the only thing I've seen. You can try messing with the colors in CM and such but I doubt you are going to get anywhere.
I have a Nexus S and I am thinking about the S4. I like how the colors are saturated on the Nexus S and have notice that isn't so on the S4. Is there a mod or a way to adjust the colors and make them saturated and be like the Nexus S color tone personality?
Hello, does anyone know how to calibrate the screen to be the closest thing to Samsung screens?
Use increased contrast option on display settings. It represents dci-p3 color gamut, so it will give you the most vibrant color, similar like amoled cinema on Samsung smartphones.