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Now this is bad. My Maxx HD fell, LCD broke. Digitizer fine.
They said I am out of warranty because the phone was rooted? What?
The assistant said they had access to a database that informed they so. I do not remember having authorized motorola of having info over what I do with the phone... in fact it was a gift, and is MY phone, not theirs, so I do not even know if it was rooted!
Even if that was the case... what does a software thing has to do with a poor display construction? A quick search on google revealed what seems to be a poorly constructed LCD.
So in short. Your phones are sending info about what you do with them all the time to motorola!!! With a system that you do not have access to.
I feel like you got trolled by the rep... or in case they really do have a database like that... shouldn't the user be informed?
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barbaroja said:
Now this is bad. My Maxx HD fell, LCD broke. Digitizer fine.
They said I am out of warranty because the phone was rooted? What?
The assistant said they had access to a database that informed they so. I do not remember having authorized motorola of having info over what I do with the phone... in fact it was a gift, and is MY phone, not theirs, so I do not even know if it was rooted!
Even if that was the case... what does a software thing has to do with a poor display construction? A quick search on google revealed what seems to be a poorly constructed LCD.
So in short. Your phones are sending info about what you do with them all the time to motorola!!! With a system that you do not have access to.
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make a little noise...
accuse them for spying and you will judge them
but first reflash the original rom
if you can see something on the screen you're ok
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I am completely sure it is not rooted. I got the phone and reflashed it to ICS. Then it fell. So if it had root, it for sure gone.
But its horrible that motorola is spying on us. Should we stop some services in the phone? Is there any way to stop that? Are they truly invading my privacy?
There is something that is sending personal info to motorola and I am not happy with that nor anyone should be!
When you first setup your device there is a Motorola privacy notification. The default option there is to send some data to them I believe. I changed it so that it doesn't send anything.
hm I can not access the phone so I do not know.
Has anybody access to that screen so we know it we are agreeing to that? I mean the exact text?
Not sure but I disabled the Motorola services app running and everything still works so perhaps that's the culprit.
Droid RAZR HD (current)
LG Optimus One P-504 (For Sale)
The thing is. The rep said users do not have acess to tahat system. So only they would know.
They have the information, that's true. A european chat support member told me my whole xt910 flashing history. He even asked me why i flashed chinese system on a euro device.
Go to Settings -> Privacy -> Motorola Privacy Policy -> Privacy Profiles....
Check "NONE - No data will be collected, except for anonymous information to keep your device up to date"....
Problem solved. Also, inform yourself by reading their policies. Motorola is one company I'm not really worried about. Facebook is what should worry you. =)
Well, the phone knows. Enter to the user programming menu, in dialer: ##7764726 hit send and set password as 000000. Last item is "device rooting". It checks your status and surely it reports it.
barbaroja said:
Well, the phone knows. Enter to the user programming menu, in dialer: ##7764726 hit send and set password as 000000. Last item is "device rooting". It checks your status and surely it reports it.
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You can disable reporting under security or privacy (one of those two) there is a moto support menu where you can turn off reporting. This doesn't disable the 2 device root checks though.
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barbaroja said:
Well, the phone knows. Enter to the user programming menu, in dialer: ##7764726 hit send and set password as 000000. Last item is "device rooting". It checks your status and surely it reports it.
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The post after you tells you how to solve your problem...
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4.1.2 USA vzw there is no option to set under privacy.
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Majestic3 said:
4.1.2 USA vzw there is no option to set under privacy.
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Look under privacy and the last item is Motorola Privacy Policy.
Under that is a privacy profiles.
You can select it there.
koftheworld said:
You can disable reporting under security or privacy (one of those two) there is a moto support menu where you can turn off reporting. This doesn't disable the 2 device root checks though.
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Got it. Is there a way to mark the device as non rooted, I mean, to revert that marker?
Isint there a code on the phone in fast boot or recovery that states weather its rooted or not?
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I buy all my phones used from ebay or craigslist and will never get a new from from verizon and sign a contract.
I feel they are my phones and if I root it it's all on me and I self insure it. I have never taken a phone to verizon to get fixed.
barbaroja said:
Now this is bad. My Maxx HD fell, LCD broke. Digitizer fine.
They said I am out of warranty because the phone was rooted? What?
The assistant said they had access to a database that informed they so. I do not remember having authorized motorola of having info over what I do with the phone... in fact it was a gift, and is MY phone, not theirs, so I do not even know if it was rooted!
Even if that was the case... what does a software thing has to do with a poor display construction? A quick search on google revealed what seems to be a poorly constructed LCD.
So in short. Your phones are sending info about what you do with them all the time to motorola!!! With a system that you do not have access to.
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Got it. Is there a way to mark the device as non rooted, I mean, to revert that marker?
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If you fast boot stock then the first marker is changed back to non rooted but the second one can not be reversed currently. Then again with the unlocked bootloader it is theoretically possible to change that back as well but no one has released a method for it. I once asked hash about it and he said he would think about a solution. Once the new kernel is done I'll remind him of the problem.
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The location of the qe flag has been found, it's a single byte in the middle of an empty and legacy /misc partition that is read by the ramdisk.
It is rewritten at boot and is not practical to remove it permanently. [mbm] was the one who found it finally.
Hey Everyone,
I maintain a website, randomphantasmagoria.com, where I maintain a firmware archive of official production Google ROMs for every Nexus and Google Experience device from the OG Droid onward. I plan to archive the Google Experience One ROMs as well, assuming the ROMs actually come from Google and not from HTC.
If someone is buying one, I'd love if you could help me out with something. I need some information on the phone, and you will need to get it as soon as you turn the phone on for the first time, before doing any out-of-the-box system updates.
Here is the info I'll need:
1. The bootloader version. You will have to reboot into bootloader (fastboot) mode to do this. When you do, the bootloader version should be displayed on screen.
2. The baseband version from Settings | About Phone.
3. The value of ro.build.fingerprint from /system/build.prop.
4. IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE NOTIFICATION: Before applying the update, do the following. Turn on USB debugging after the notification appears on screen. Go into Settings | Developer Options and select "Take Bug Report". Your phone will email a text file to the email address on your Google account. Open that text file and search it for ".zip" (without the quotes) and post the URL to the ZIP file.
This will be unbelievably helpful.
Thank you in advance!
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Any takers for when they get the phone?
oldblue910 said:
Hey Everyone,
I maintain a website, randomphantasmagoria.com, where I maintain a firmware archive of official production Google ROMs for every Nexus and Google Experience device from the OG Droid onward. I plan to archive the Google Experience One ROMs as well, assuming the ROMs actually come from Google and not from HTC.
If someone is buying one, I'd love if you could help me out with something. I need some information on the phone, and you will need to get it as soon as you turn the phone on for the first time, before doing any out-of-the-box system updates.
Here is the info I'll need:
1. The bootloader version. You will have to reboot into bootloader (fastboot) mode to do this. When you do, the bootloader version should be displayed on screen.
2. The baseband version from Settings | About Phone.
3. The value of ro.build.fingerprint from /system/build.prop.
4. IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE NOTIFICATION: Before applying the update, do the following. Turn on USB debugging after the notification appears on screen. Go into Settings | Developer Options and select "Take Bug Report". Your phone will email a text file to the email address on your Google account. Open that text file and search it for ".zip" (without the quotes) and post the URL to the ZIP file.
This will be unbelievably helpful.
Thank you in advance!
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Just a thought. Perhaps this request may be better in the android general section as everybody hear already owns a One so not many will be able to afford to own both.
Also, I suspect that when this device is released, the information you require will be readily available on xda.
bobsie41 said:
Just a thought. Perhaps this request may be better in the android general section as everybody hear already owns a One so not many will be able to afford to own both.
Also, I suspect that when this device is released, the information you require will be readily available on xda.
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When the device is released, based on my past experiences with Nexus devices, it's not a given that the originally shipping firmware info will be available on XDA, unfortunately. The overwhelming majority of people turn their phone on for the first time, see an OTA notification out of the box, and just update it without giving a second thought to the fact that the current firmware info could be useful. haha
But yeah, if nobody indulges me here, I'll probably ask in the Android general section as well.
Isn't HTC archiving the roms themselves? I read that they were going to allow all current Ones to change over to the Google experience edition.
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vash1053 said:
Isn't HTC archiving the roms themselves? I read that they were going to allow all current Ones to change over to the Google experience edition.
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^^^^^This is great if it's true
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^^^^^This is great if it's true
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I agree but I haven't heard that anywhere and I would very much doubt it. Would love to be wrong though.
bobsie41 said:
I agree but I haven't heard that anywhere and I would very much doubt it. Would love to be wrong though.
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And even if they did, there is no guarantee they'd have the original shipping firmware archived, especially if there's an OTA update out of the box. All I really need is the information in the first post for the shipping firmware. From that point forward, it'll be easy to get all the info for the subsequent updates because XDA will be abuzz with it every time there's an OTA.
I'm looking at getting one, if I can trick the US Play Store to take my Canadian credit card... if so, I can try and get this information for you.
Thanks, man!
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Arbelac said:
I'm looking at getting one, if I can trick the US Play Store to take my Canadian credit card... if so, I can try and get this information for you.
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Same here, if Google will take the card one is mine. Then I'll gladly share the info.
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Disregard this entire thread. This is an HTC ROM, not a Google ROM. It's been verified. For the purposes of my website, I'm not interested. Thanks everyone!
this is wierd....Im having this issue and hopefully someone can help me out. I can group mms with all my friends except 1. He has a verizon s3 and everytime he responds to a group mms it just goes into his seperate thread. My wife has an iphone and when he responds it goes into the group mms thread like it should. Its really confusing the hell out of me since hes the only person it happens to and i feel like its just with my phone. I looked at his phone and he is responding in the group thread like he should be but it send a seperate text to me instead of going into the group mms thread.
Anyone got any ideas?
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this is wierd....Im having this issue and hopefully someone can help me out. I can group mms with all my friends except 1. He has a verizon s3 and everytime he responds to a group mms it just goes into his seperate thread. My wife has an iphone and when he responds it goes into the group mms thread like it should. Its really confusing the hell out of me since hes the only person it happens to and i feel like its just with my phone. I looked at his phone and he is responding in the group thread like he should be but it send a seperate text to me instead of going into the group mms thread.
Anyone got any ideas?
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His S3 is not on 4.2 or higher I'm guessing so his phone can't do group SMS (which uses MMS to communicate).
Blame Verizon, they are always freaking late on everything! The last update was 4.1.2 which came out in May but was released long ago. The other Samsung S3s all got 4.2 already (I think) but Verizon is slacking.
shotta35 said:
His S3 is not on 4.2 or higher I'm guessing so his phone can't do group SMS (which uses MMS to communicate).
Blame Verizon, they are always freaking late on everything! The last update was 4.1.2 which came out in May but was released long ago. The other Samsung S3s all got 4.2 already (I think) but Verizon is slacking.
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He can..my gf has an iphone and he responds right in the group mms thread on her phone but it shows up in his single thread on my phone...weird
Anyone ?
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This will always vary depending on these variables involved, the devices, the carriers, and, this one is key, if any of the lines involved have been ported.
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fernandezhjr said:
This will always vary depending on these variables involved, the devices, the carriers, and, this one is key, if any of the lines involved have been ported.
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Sorry to bump this post but I'm having the same exact issue..
My friend has a VZW S3 and his replies do not come under group chat.
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I've come to find out..if I use a third party app like handcent it works like it should. So its something with the stock app which sucks cuz I hate the third party apps
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Ok so it seems quite a few people are still interested in getting this working, so, lets pool out resources and experiences and see if we can make it happen.
this is basically a repeat of the discussion og this so are on another thread but it was kinda off topic so i started this one.
so this has been the evolution of what ive tryed so far, pretty basic i know, but that why im here to bring people more talented then myself to the table....
r57v5
this will side load without root, and will open but give and carrier error and force closes if left installed of the GW versions ive try this is the only only one that installs with out anything extra.
r52v7
so after root was acheived (by jcase) i installed the xposed frame work here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401 and wallet mod here: http://www.modaco.com/topic/354635-xmod-region-device-root-patched-google-wallet/ i was playing with something else, DL the app from this thread: http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-elite/644930-custom-boot-animation-sound-without-root.html It asked me to DL another app that installed aditional shared libraries and now one more of the wallet apks will install. and now this verison will install where it previously would not.
r96v16
i believe this is the newest version, but it wont install
Reference Material
other good GW resources here:
(most of this is useless untill we get access to /system and/or safestrap)
GW for Galaxy S4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400143
GW for HTC One:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395719
GW for Spring Moto X:
NOTHING YET, BUT IM SURE THE KEY TO THIS WILL BE HERE (if there is one)
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tried restoring the titanium backup from my gnex to the MAXX, but it just hangs on direct and indirect mode, probably would still have the library issue even if it worked.
Attached is the output from the manifest XML, hopefully it has clues. A dump from a sprint moto X might help I heard theirs works.
i think i found the missing library, ill need to see a moto x system dump to confirm it is the one but from a discussion i found at code,google, this has occured with other apps and it was recommended that a certain jar file library missing may be the cause. now this was about and different library and app so the specifics dont apply here. but the nexus 4, s4 gpe, htc one gpe, all have a file in system/framework titled "com.android.nfc_extras" this file is not present on the vzw moto, droid maxx, razr hd, and im sure many others. i tried copying the this file (from nesux 4) and its odex partner to system/framework on my razr hd and i got a soft brick/bootloop at reboot. so the way i see there are a few possiblities why, the file came from 4.2 hd is running 4.1 or n4 is just to different from the hd to use the same file. but this same idea may work from a sprint moto x to a vzw moto x and maybe even the droids.
Awesome, I know that what we are missing is certainly on a sprint x. Google specifically. Lists the sprint and us cellular versions as compatible.
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TheWhiteChallenger said:
i think i found the missing library, ill need to see a moto x system dump to confirm it is the one but from a discussion i found at code,google, this has occured with other apps and it was recommended that a certain jar file library missing may be the cause. now this was about and different library and app so the specifics dont apply here. but the nexus 4, s4 gpe, htc one gpe, all have a file in system/framework titled "com.android.nfc_extras" this file is not present on the vzw moto, droid maxx, razr hd, and im sure many others. i tried copying the this file (from nesux 4) and its odex partner to system/framework on my razr hd and i got a soft brick/bootloop at reboot. so the way i see there are a few possiblities why, the file came from 4.2 hd is running 4.1 or n4 is just to different from the hd to use the same file. but this same idea may work from a sprint moto x to a vzw moto x and maybe even the droids.
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Some progress over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45571533&postcount=27
That's exactly where I'm stalled we need the sprint moto x dump and root without write protection
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Sprint users must have just given up.
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Even with all the libs it still won't work as we are missing the secure element.
lioryte said:
Even with all the libs it still won't work as we are missing the secure element.
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i havent been able to get jack for solid info on what the "secure element" really is, hardware software both. idk, we need some good developers to input some real detailed info here
TheWhiteChallenger said:
i havent been able to get jack for solid info on what the "secure element" really is, hardware software both. idk, we need some good developers to input some real detailed info here
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It's a combo. Vz started distributing a secure Sim card, which one had to order through the vz site. I don't see the option in my Verizon, so maybe we already have a secure Sim or maybe it's not yet available. This might take a while to do. More likely we'll have Isis ruining before. How this help a lil.
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I posted this in the ISIS thread, but has anyone tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2044362
my Maxx gets here later this week, but that was what I planned on using it. I tried it on several ROM's on my GNexus and it worked every time
lioryte said:
It's a combo. Vz started distributing a secure Sim card, which one had to order through the vz site. I don't see the option in my Verizon, so maybe we already have a secure Sim or maybe it's not yet available. This might take a while to do. More likely we'll have Isis ruining before. How this help a lil.
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yes all vzws new nano sims are nfc secure element sim cards, but this is a new concept, and it is still just a sim card so that leads me to believe that the secure element embedded in the sim is simply software just writen to the sim.
another thing thats confusing is and hardware on the moto x is identical to the droids yet the moto x on sprint supports google wallet. google walet dose not support sim based SE's so therefore one of two things is possible
a) there is a physical SE chip on all moto x's and the carriers have it disabled.
or
b) its pure software and the carriers have it disabled
so unless someone dose a teardown on a sprint moto x and finds an extra piece of hardware im inclined to believe that the "Secure Element" is soft ware that is hidden in the device somewhere. maybe in the kernel so it can manage comunication bettween the ui and the nfc hardware. i really dont know that why before there can be an intelligent discussion of how to/if it can be hacked. what actually needs to happen. we need a HIGHLY detailed decription of what EXACTLY a "Secure Element" is as defind by what google wallet is looking of.
i dont think isis and SE sims will be realivent to google wallet, apples and oranges
The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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@work said:
The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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I used ISIS on my new MAXX yesterday for the first time! Love the idea of storing my CC's on my phone.
Did not need any special SIM card so it must be incorperated into the new phones automatically.
Would love to get Google Wallet working on the MAXX, any ideas?
@work said:
The SE spec allows smart card emulation on the firmware and in the uicc on the Sim card by the carrier. The hardware is I denticle. This is possible from that perspective.
http://nelenkov.blogspot.nl/2012/08/accessing-embedded-secure-element-in.html?m=1
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Kool so what we need is a skilled Dev to get a SE ported form the sprint moto x and were in bis
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I dunno if this is common information but I just got the OTA a few minutes ago. Delete if this is a redundant post!
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Yep. Got it
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I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?
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I'm getting the prompt to download it.
I downloaded it once and booted into twrp and went into the /cache folder to try to install the zip but it threw an error and wouldn't install.
other than reverting back to the stock recovery does anyone know of a way to install the update?
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To me ...reverting to stock is the simplest way.
If you absolutely don't want to lose your stuff ...you have to return it to stock piece by piece. Many threads about it already. Many.
Tho...I just transferred all my stuff to my pc ....including my titanium backup folder....pics and all that...and used rsdlite ...and put all my stuff back after. Rooted it. Restored my titanium backup. Done.
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I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
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I really don't know why we have stickies nor do I understand why I take my time to post threads and have stickies placed on them?
Here read on how to accept an ota http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639102
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Life's too short for reading now days? Lol
I hate asking anything and waiting hours...days even for an answer. Been that way always....love Google search.
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Also got the update, on my XT1053, Romanian (europe) carrier.
come on AT&T!
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come on AT&T!
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At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
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Got the update too last night. I'm in Canada on Wind mobile.
My phone doesn't feel different...but it's 0.0.2 more. So it must be better..../sarcasm
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While I can agree with this partially, if AT&T and Verizon didn't junk up the firmware and change stuff that didn't need to be changed, then we wouldn't really have a legit reason to root the phone. Dev Editions are for people who want exposed modules and all that jazz, and I feel like Moto should've made a MM phone that was Dev Edition, but can't have your cake and eat it too. Again, if AT&T and Verizon used the same firmware as T-Mobile did, then I'm sure a LOT more people, including myself, would be happy and not need root.
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At&t and Verizon will be the last group to receive the ota
You can thank the folks who hacked root access on those 2 carriers , do you really think the folks at moto do not visit xda , these forums are the best way for manufactures to get opinions, consumers dislikes and likes and probably the best place to get ideas to improve they're operating systems
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I'm happy the USB OTG is back and the phone feels snappier. Battery life (for me) is noticeably better after a significant decline with 4.4. Good that they fixed all the bluetooth volume issues I was having with my headset (basically one volume on the LG Tone+ and when connected to the car, voice notifications came into the phone and not out of the car speakers). Also looks like some notifications have had some tweaks, such as picture auto-backup now shows a thumbnail of some of the images that were backed up. It's a REALLY good update for me.
Only thing that bugs me so far is that when you remove the USB storage, you get a notification that stays there until the next reboot.
I already had great battery life. But it seems to have gotten slightly better. Not marginal, but it was enough for me to notice. Basically getting a bit more out of a 100% charge.
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