On my rooted KFHD, Im trying to add more apps to system/app dir. Im using root explorer to access. It says 872MB used, 0 Free. Is there a way to add more of the SD Card space to it?
wing-zero said:
On my rooted KFHD, Im trying to add more apps to system/app dir. Im using root explorer to access. It says 872MB used, 0 Free. Is there a way to add more of the SD Card space to it?
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It would take repartitioning to do so. If you didn't already know that, and considering the nature of the device and how easy it is to brick it permanently, you shouldn't even mess with it.
My question to you is...
Why on earth do you have 800+MB of apps installed in the system directory?! Aside from a few Google apps, you shouldn't explicitly install anything to your system directory. You're just asking for problems.
soupmagnet said:
It would take repartitioning to do so. If you didn't already know that, and considering the nature of the device and how easy it is to brick it permanently, you shouldn't even mess with it.
My question to you is...
Why on earth do you have 800+MB of apps installed in the system directory?! Aside from a few Google apps, you shouldn't explicitly install anything to your system directory. You're just asking for problems.
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Actually, Out of the 872MB on "system" partition, About 760MB are occupied by the system rom (Maybe a bit less if you're on kinology), Which leaves us with about 100MB give or take for applications, Which is STILL plenty for system apps, So let me rephrase your question, Why on earth do you have 100+MB of apps installed in the system directory?!
But anyway, to answer wing-zero's question, There is no way you can add to that space, You'll have to make do with what you have, Maybe you can remove some of amazon's bloatware? But be very careful what remove.
Another solution would be to install kinology rom, It's modified to allow you to normally install any application that would otherwise be required to be put in System/App to work.
AmrBanawan said:
Actually, Out of the 872MB on "system" partition, About 760MB are occupied by the system rom (Maybe a bit less if you're on kinology), Which leaves us with about 100MB give or take for applications, Which is STILL plenty for system apps, So let me rephrase your question, Why on earth do you have 100+MB of apps installed in the system directory?!
But anyway, to answer wing-zero's question, There is no way you can add to that space, You'll have to make do with what you have, Maybe you can remove some of amazon's bloatware? But be very careful what remove.
Another solution would be to install kinology rom, It's modified to allow you to normally install any application that would otherwise be required to be put in System/App to work.
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i m in kinology, an deleted most of amazon things, you cant see any amazon things in my tab, all deleted, i have a lot of free system,
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soupmagnet said:
It would take repartitioning to do so. If you didn't already know that, and considering the nature of the device and how easy it is to brick it permanently, you shouldn't even mess with it.
My question to you is...
Why on earth do you have 800+MB of apps installed in the system directory?! Aside from a few Google apps, you shouldn't explicitly install anything to your system directory. You're just asking for problems.
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i think amazon use a lot of system memory , for a 16 g device having 12 for users they use like 4 in their "os"
persano said:
i m in kinology, an deleted most of amazon things, you cant see any amazon things in my tab, all deleted, i have a lot of free system,
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i think amazon use a lot of system memory , for a 16 g device having 12 for users they use like 4 in their "os"
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Ok I'll admit, my number may have been a "bit" exaggerated, but that doesn't change the fact that installing apps (other than Google's apps of course) to the system directory is risky business. The system directory is on it's own partition and user apps are installed to a partition separate from that for good reason.
AFAIK, the userdata and system partitions don't contain signed headers so they could be repartitioned relatively safely, ASSUMING YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I'm guessing from the OP's question, that he/she doesn't, and that option should be avoided altogether.
I think it's probably best to find out why so much of the system partition is being used before deciding on an appropriate solution.
thanks for replying everyone. I got titanium backup which allows me to freeze apps to see if it could hurt it. I put a few apps, like chrome and few others as system apps. pretty things i dont want to accidentally uninstall that i need. But I did remove other stuff I put in as system apps. Thanks guys. Maybe some of you can help me on my new thread on certificates! lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223646
Related
This is a list of safe/unsafe apps to remove from stock roms.
Generally for other regions/carrier roms anything not included should be safe to remove.
Safe in this case is defined as "will not affect the stability of the rom" removing carrier apps is "safe" for the rom, but weither or not it's useful to keep is beyond the scope of this guide. An example is removing the carrier specific mms app. It can function correctly without it, but you lose any carrier specific enhancements.
General Guideline
NOT safe to remove:
com.android.*
com.dell.* (excluding com.dell.launcher, com.dell.stage.*)
com.google.android.* (that isnt available on market)
PreLoadNetworkSettings.apk [com.oem.prenetworksetting]
Safe to remove:
com.oem.engineeringmode.*
anything available on market
anything not listed here
Possibly Not safe to remove:
Package (OTA) util
PackageChecker.apk [com.oem.packagechecker]
PackageUpdate.apk [com.oem.packageupdate]
Safe to remove:
AMOLED.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.amoled]
CableDetection.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.cabledetection]
Calibrator.apk [com.oem.calibrator]
CellInfo.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.cellinfo]
ConfidentialRunningTest.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.runningtest]
DisplayVersionInfo.apk [com.oem.mode]
dtretriever.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.dtretriever]
ECompass.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.ecompass]
EMList and subapps
audioEM.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.audioEM]
BluetoothEM.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.BluetoothEM]
cameraEM.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.cameraEM]
EMList.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.emlist]
EMLoader.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.EMLoader]
EMwifi.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.wifi]
GpsEM.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.gpsem]
FactorySuiteUtility.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.suitutility]
FakeCB.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.fakecb]
GPIO subapps
Gpio.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.gpio]
GpioSleepMode.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.gpiosleepmode]
GSensor.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.gsensor]
Logging apps
LogMaster2.apk [com.oem.log]
LogService.apk [com.oem.logservice]
Lota.apk [com.oem.lota]
MaxPowerTest.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.maxpowertest]
mccmnc.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.mccmnc]
mminfo.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.mminfo]
NetWorkSetting.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.networksetting]
NVEngMode.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.nv]
OOD_OOM.apk [com.oem.testkits.ood_oom]
PermissionToAccessLocApi.apk [com.qualcomm.permission.locapi]
PowerMonitor.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.powermonitor]
security.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.security]
SensorsInfo.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.SensorsInfo]
SIMInfo.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.siminfo]
TouchPanel.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.touch]
Verification apps
FactoryTestSIMCard.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationsimcard]
Verification.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification]
VerificationAudio.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.VerificationAudio]
VerificationBluetooth.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.bluetooth]
VerificationCamEEPROM.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationcameeprom]
VerificationEcampass.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.ecampass]
VerificationGaugeIcTemp.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.gaugeictemp]
VerificationGaugeIcVoltage.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.gaugeicvoltage]
VerificationGSensorTest.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationGSensorTest]
VerificationHdmi.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationVerificationHdmi]
VerificationHeadset.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.VerificationHeadset]
VerificationKey.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationkey]
VerificationLCD.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationlcd]
VerificationLPSensorTest.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationLPSensorTest]
VerificationLPSensorUtility.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationlpsensorutility]
VerificationSDCard.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationsdcard]
VerificationSingleTouch.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.singletouch]
VerificationUsbCharging.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verification.usbcharging]
VerificationVibratorAndLed.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.crt]
VerificationWifi.apk [com.oem.engineeringmode.verificationwifi]
Bundleware (available in market):
ACCUWX.apk [com.accuweather.android.simpleweatherlite.dellstreak]
amazonmp3.apk [com.amazon.mp3]
com.adobe.air.apk [com.adobe.air]
com.facebook.katana [com.facebook.katana]
com.twitter.android.apk [com.twitter.android]
copilot.apk [com.alk.copilot.dell.trial]
evernote.apk [com.evernote]
Gallery3D.apk [com.cooliris.media]
KindleGold.apk [com.amazon.kindle]
KongregateArcade.apk [com.kongregate.android.kongarcade]
Napster-Tablet.apk [com.napster.bishop]
NeroDellSync.apk [com.nero.android.dellsync]
oovoo.apk [com.oovoo]
PageOnce.apk [com.netgate]
Quickoffice.apk [com.qo.android.oemec]
radiotime.apk [tunein.player]
RoxioNow.apk [com.roxio.rnow]
ZinioReader.apk [com.zinio.mobile.android]
ZinioSettingsProvider.apk [com.zinio.android.settings]
GApps (available in market):
Gmail.apk [com.google.android.gm]
GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk [com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox]
Maps.apk [com.google.android.apps.maps]
Street.apk [com.google.android.street]
VoiceSearch.apk [com.google.android.voicesearch]
Youtube.apk [com.google.android.youtube]
StageUI:
BooksStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.books]
ContactsStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.contacts]
EmailStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.email]
HomeStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.home]
MusicStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.music]
NewsStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.news]
PicturesStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.pictures]
RadioStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.radio]
SocialStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.social]
StageLauncher-release.apk [com.dell.launcher]
VideoStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.video]
WebStageWidget-release.apk [com.dell.stage.widget.web]
Non system apps:
CarDock.apk [com.google.android.carhome]
DRMPlayer.apk [com.arcsoft.drmplayer]
swype.apk [com.swype.android.inputmethod]
It's time consuming to go through and delete the unwanted stuff using Root Uninstaller, but I believe it to be time well spent if only to provide a bit more space on the internal MicroSD. Perhaps someone should write an automated script that will allow the user to delete the APKs in the "Safe To Remove" section of the post?
Removing things like Stage UI and the bundleware should be left out of such a script, since every user is different.
The bundleware is more or less safe to remove, just as much they're usually older versions of what's available on market, you'd still need to update and would end up with 2 copies on your system. The current version at /data/app and the original older version at /system/app
Root explorer has a mass select button btw if you use that, I believe it also works for deleting but I'm not 100% sure. Only thing to be careful of is uninstalling a system critical file, though you can just as easily manually uninstall one by accident.
There's actually more stuff that can safely be removed, only the rom is the only way to get it as you cant download it normally. (eg swype and drmplayer, though swype beta is available as a slightly different thing)
I wasn't questioning the safety of removing the bundleware, since I removed most of it along with all the engineering stuff and the Stage UI yesterday. All I was saying is that in a script those things shouldn't be included because of individual user preferences.
Nice work bruv!!:d
Added a couple more apps into list, turns out everything in com.oem.* is not required (if you ignore being able to use OTA updates, but as noone uses them to begin with)
Dont remove dellsettingsprovider.apk though, it's needed for dock mode with an official dock.
out of curiosity did you guys figure out what are all those com.engineeringmode.* apps? to be honest, removing something like gsensor.apk sounds scary
If you force them to run by making a custom activity shortcut, they mostly do exactly what they sound like.
Majority of them lets you test a single function (ie what they're named after). They're all essentinally debug utils. Dell might have them included because it makes fixing returned devices easier (ie warrentied devices)
Or just as likely they left them in because they're lazy, the entire build system for the s5 is a bit of a mess. They fixed it for building venue and streak 7 roms but they never bothered to go back and fix it.
Though all these apps are also included in stock venue and s7 roms
So before removing these apps do a nandroid backup. Will the nandroid save these files? Also can u do this with Gingerstreak?
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
Of course nandroid saves it, unless you intentionally dont do a nandroid of system\, which defeats the point of nandroid.
SD2.3 doesnt include these nor does SD2.0
TheManii said:
Of course nandroid saves it, unless you intentionally dont do a nandroid of system\, which defeats the point of nandroid.
SD2.3 doesnt include these nor does SD2.0
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SD 2.3 doesn't save which ones?
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
I mean SD2.3 doesnt include anything that needs to be removed
TheManii said:
I mean SD2.3 doesnt include anything that needs to be removed
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Oh ok
Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
so I decided to remove completely all those apps; so far so good and I'll surely like the slightly higher amount of available RAM
I have found something odd though (albeit almost irrelevant). after uninstalling (via titanium backup) all these apps I have lost one of the two wallpapers galllery (the one with a lot of pictures). Unfortunately I cannot tell which is the app responsible for this as I uninstalled them in bulk (I am not even 100% sure the two facts are related as more tweaking was going on and I discovered the issue only hours later).
well as I stated before it's not what you call a deal breaker, who uses stock wallpapers anyway but you'd better be advised than sorry!
you likely removed something in com.android.*
wallpapers are set with either:
gallery app
stageui's set
default android live wallpapers
whatever others you downloaded
mmh unlikely mate. I'm not betting my house on this but I'm quite confident I deleted only the apps that are in this very OP. the LWP and the 2-images-only galleries anyway are still there, i think it's something related to stage.
crashDebug said:
mmh unlikely mate. I'm not betting my house on this but I'm quite confident I deleted only the apps that are in this very OP. the LWP and the 2-images-only galleries anyway are still there, i think it's something related to stage.
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It is the stage UI. I LOVE the "beach & sea" one and lost it after removing stage ui
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Updated list, there are a couple com.oem apps that are boarderline cases of being safe to remove, as they break functionality, but which depends on if that's a good or bad thing.
Case in point: the ota tools can be safely removed, but obviously break ota updates. If you're on a custom rom this wouldnt work anyway as custom roms dont support ota updates.
Experience uninstalling these apps, based on 2.2.2 351 00:
Deleted the package apps = could not uninstall using Settings - App. Tried restarting phone as possible solution but got stuck on boot image.
Does cabledetection have anything to do with attaching with usb to pc? Gone, cannot use Streak as USB storage device in pc.
Note that many other appd can be removed too. Check Cyanogen barebones for detailed descriptions.
Question: Why is it impossible to "restore" apps I remove? Titanium simply does not work. At least with such far out ventures as removing, by accident though, and I had made a backup of everything, so it shoulf have been possible, the Accounts and Sync Settings apk.
Analogously - copying and pasting in RootExplorer does nothing at all, as is the case with trying to reinstall removed apps.
Anyways, lots of stuff can be removed. I even removed Market, to save resources, since I never download any apps from there anway.
You would be better off doing a nandroid backup before you muck around with the files. That way if something DOES happen you can go back to the original configuration. As to Titanium Backup, various versions of the app have had problems with restoring apps, corrupting not only the app, but the app's data as well. For backup purposes, Titanium Backup is not recommended. Nandroid instead.
In trying to free up some space on my KF today, I noticed that apps that I had uninstalled, both before and after I rooted my KF, still left the entire app on my KF.
What's up with this?
For example, one of the first things I installed, kinda jokingly, was the Nook app. This was days after I got my KF and I had also downloaded a few free books for it. I uninstalled that app 6 months ago, yet all the Nook files were still there, including the .apk. I was able to delete them all and not cause any noticeable problem with my KF, but I have d/l'd a lot of apps and deleted them since I got my KF on the first day it was released. So if it had an easy name to remember, not too big of an issue, but app names in the directory aren't always straightforward to what they are... they may be listed by their developer's name or such.
I'm not opposed to completely wiping it and re-installing everything, but there are a number of games that I would lose my progress in if I did that. Plus, I am not in desperate need of space... yet. Granted, the TWRP backup doesn't help much when it comes to space, but it is a nice thing to have.
[BTW, my KF has been rooted for several months now, and was just updated with the latest KFU v9.6, running GoLauncher. It's a pretty straight forward rooted device that I haven't tweaked much because I really do read a lot on it.]
So I was wondering if there was an app that works better than the free version of SD Maid to clean up all this left over garbage? Even SD Maid didn't detect the Nook app still being there (the free version doesn't do all the paid version does, but, for the most part, it still shows ya what it found). Or if someone has a detailed guide of walking you through how to clean up useless files... that would be cool too.
Like I said, there is definitely a lot of crap taking up space that can be deleted. But I don't know Android (I'm really a Windows/Cisco guy), so I don't know to what extent I can delete stuff without causing problems.
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW, could the Image Verification images be any harder? LOL
PBFred said:
In trying to free up some space on my KF today, I noticed that apps that I had uninstalled, both before and after I rooted my KF, still left the entire app on my KF.
What's up with this?
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I believe this is an issue in older Android versions. I noticed my phone doing the same thing while it was in Eclair, then in Froyo and then in GingerBread.
It looks to me like ICS will automatically remove any orphan data it finds - I've tried deleting just an application's apk and, after rebooting the system, its data was gone as well (tried on both my phone and KF).
PBFred said:
So if it had an easy name to remember, not too big of an issue, but app names in the directory aren't always straightforward to what they are... they may be listed by their developer's name or such.
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I guess you can try "pm list packages -f" to get the names of the apks and their matching data folders.
PBFred said:
I'm not opposed to completely wiping it and re-installing everything, but there are a number of games that I would lose my progress in if I did that.
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You can most likely extract their data. Alternatively, you may want to look into Titanium Backup for backing up both apps and their data.
PBFred said:
Granted, the TWRP backup doesn't help much when it comes to space, but it is a nice thing to have.
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You could also move the TWRP backup to the computer...
I would just backup any apps/games on TB while also saving the contents of your SD on your computer. Then simply use TWRP to wide SD card. You can then move your TWRP backups to the SD card from your computer and restore app and data on TB.
Hello, guys. I saw this thread today and thought of doing the same thing for Moto G. I just adapted it, some apps and odex were differents. So, here it is.
Download:
In attachments
Way to install:
Put it on /sdcard and flash by recovery. After, wipe dalvik cache.
Things to do:
Give some love to this ugly op
Delete apps you suggest, as i couldn't add more because i don't have a backup and didn't want mess it all :S
Credits: MoJo - script creator
Well, this is it. Thanks for reading it all.
mathm2013 said:
Hello, guys. I saw this thread today and thought of doing the same thing for Moto G. I just adapted it, some apps and odex were differents. So, here it is.
Download:
In attachments
Way to install:
Put it on /sdcard and flash by recovery. After, wipe dalvik cache.
Things to do:
Give some love to this ugly op
Delete apps you suggest, as i couldn't add more because i don't have a backup and didn't want mess it all :S
Credits: MoJo - script creator
Well, this is it. Thanks for reading it all.
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hi dude, this is great, so can you make an scrip that just have the esential gapps? just like if we install the "minimal gapps", if you can do it, i have another question, this will break OTA updates? thanks!
alonsoch said:
i have another question, this will break OTA updates? thanks!
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Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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Is space from deleted apps really not reclaimed? That's strange...so for example the 5,52 MB available (or better the free MB amount of those 5,52) won't increase after deleting built-in apps?
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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thanks for the answer, so what is the built-in method of disabling apps in Android?
alonsoch said:
thanks for the answer, so what is the built-in method of disabling apps in Android?
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Settings > apps > all > choose app > click > disable
Rooting the device also breaks OTA updates.
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ksuuk said:
Settings > apps > all > choose app > click > disable
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well, thanks
flibblesan said:
Yes because you have made changes to the system. Any missing files will prevent you from applying OTA updates.
BTW why not just use the built-in method of disabling apps in Android? Once they have been disabled and you reboot they won't be launched, won't take up resources etc etc. Deleting them from the system is just daft since you cannot reclaim that space for your own files.
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Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
mathm2013 said:
Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
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Deleting apps on the /system partition will not give you any additional space on /data either, so there is no point in deleting them. Disabling them is the more logical way if you want to get rid of them.
mathm2013 said:
Just disabling your apps won't free much internal memory as deleting apks will.
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The internal memory and the /system are two separate partitions. You cannot access the free space on /system unless you are rooted (and you have limited use of it even if you are rooted, for example you can move apps there with titanium backup, but cannot use it for storing media files).
Great! Works perfectly.
The general performance is slightly improved, and the battery life is better than stock. With the Faux123 kernel, the battery life (if correctly configured) is impressive.
Thans a lot.
Which apps are being the deleted exactly? (Did i miss a post about that?)
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
Posted from my I337 NB1 Dark Venom 3 SS version --- 20G Free Cloud --- https://copy.com?r=vtiraF
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
megamanDJ said:
As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda app-developers app
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
megamanDJ said:
Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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kevp75 said:
lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL
Let's continue our debloating discussion of the Huawei Ascend XT which we started in thread titled "Huawei Ascend XT H1611"
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/-t3507933 in this thread now please .
So i'm guessing there's some kind of protection that prevents full root access or something else, thanks to huawei, that prevents app removal. I've tried everything from the above thread. Nothing worked for me. Need to remove ATT/Huawei bloat apps, not freeze/disable.
When I look at the AT&T system and other preinstalled potential bloatware, I don't see how deleting them is going to amount to any significant internal storage free space. I'm guessing 0.5. GB.
If someone is planning to do maximum level debloating by deletion vs freezing/disabling, please post the free internal storage before and after the lobotomy . Thanks!
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When I look at the AT&T system and other preinstalled potential bloatware, I don't see how deleting them is going to amount to any significant internal storage free space. I'm guessing 0.5. GB.
If someone is planning to do maximum level debloating by deletion vs freezing/disabling, please post the free internal storage before and after the lobotomy . Thanks!
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Usually when i do it with other brands i get a significant amount of space. I remove not only apps but processes as well. Maybe huawei UI takes up a lot of space. I still want to remove bloatware just in case.
In my mind, there are various levels of debloating.
Level 1: Freeze/disable apps with phone app manager. You can clear data too if you are sure you won't need the current app settings/data.
Level 2: Uninstall user apps with phone app manager.
Level 3: Use rooted debloating tools to freeze/disable system or use apps which could not be done in level 1 or 2. You can still take an OTA update up to this level and may have to unfreeze any frozen apps first.
Level 4: Use root debloating tool to uninstall system or user apps you positively don't need and know from previous levels or knowledge is not required. This will free up some space on the partition(s) that the app uses. Depending on what apps you get rid of you won't be able to take an OTA in this state.
I need to read this over later and maybe make so changes - so work in progress .
I have been able to remove some of the apps. Like Google Drive, Drive Mode, Amazon (not Kindel), and a few other things. I'm thinking of removing Music and messages to replace it with better apps.
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In my mind, there are various levels of debloating.
Level 1: Freeze/disable apps with phone app manager. You can clear data too if you are sure you won't need the current app settings/data.
Level 2: Uninstall user apps with phone app manager.
Level 3: Use rooted debloating tools to freeze/disable system or use apps which could not be done in level 1 or 2. You can still take an OTA update up to this level and may have to unfreeze any frozen apps first.
Level 4: Use root debloating tool to uninstall system or user apps you positively don't need and know from previous levels or knowledge is not required. This will free up some space on the partition(s) that the app uses. Depending on what apps you get rid of you won't be able to take an OTA in this state.
I need to read this over later and maybe make so changes - so work in progress .
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Only one level for me - remove all useless junk including processes. OTA updates don't work with root anyway.
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dabadguycr said:
I have been able to remove some of the apps. Like Google Drive, Drive Mode, Amazon (not Kindel), and a few other things. I'm thinking of removing Music and messages to replace it with better apps.
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How? I can't remove any. Some just don't get removed, some detected as system app. Shouldn't matter with proper root.
Yeah, I'm not done, like I said.
You can take an OTA with systemless root, by unrooting first, proved you didn't go to Level 4!
Depending on what each person wants to do, they can go straight for the kill/Level 4.
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Only one level for me - remove all useless junk including processes. OTA updates don't work with root anyway.
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How? I can't remove any. Some just don't get removed, some detected as system app. Shouldn't matter with proper root.
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The almost all the at&t apps, Urber, Yp, Direct TV, Amazon Kindle, Swype for Huawei, all say it can not find Apk so uninstall failed.
Google books, movies, music, newsstand, drive, drive mode, YouTube, messaging, a few others all able to uninstall.
I didn't freeze I fully removed them.
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Only one level for me - remove all useless junk including processes. OTA updates don't work with root anyway.
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How? I can't remove any. Some just don't get removed, some detected as system app. Shouldn't matter with proper root.
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I'm using titanium backups.
dabadguycr said:
The almost all the at&t apps, Urber, Yp, Direct TV, Amazon Kindle, Swype for Huawei, all say it can not find Apk so uninstall failed.
Google books, movies, music, newsstand, drive, drive mode, YouTube, messaging, a few others all able to uninstall.
I didn't freeze I fully removed them.
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I'm using titanium backups.
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Very few apps get disabled instead of uninstalled. The rest are system files, even google crap. Very unusual. Never had a rooted phone where i couldn't get rid of crap.
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Very few apps get disabled instead of uninstalled. The rest are system files, even google crap. Very unusual. Never had a rooted phone where i couldn't get rid of crap.
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Are you using titanium? Sounds like you didn't grant permission with super user.
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Are you using titanium? Sounds like you didn't grant permission with super user.
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Yes i tried titanium, rom toolbox, root uninstaller. granted permission. Tried everything discussed in the original thread and even reflashed reinstalled supersu.
I was able to uninstall the stock launcher. I would have kept it but while I'm running Nova Launcher Prime the stock launcher ate a lot of ram. I've gained around a GB in free space with everything I removed. My phone ram is a lot better now as well.
I also uninstalled Music App and replaced it with a better one.
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Yes i tried titanium, rom toolbox, root uninstaller. granted permission. Tried everything discussed in the original thread and even reflashed reinstalled supersu.
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I have no clue man I wish I could help you. The only apps I haven't been able to uninstall are the AT&T apps, Uber, directv, and YP and stock keyboard. I wish I could remove the keyboard it takes up 250mb of space and ram even while using Gboard.
dabadguycr,
Did you gain 1GB internal storage space? What did you delete or what do you have left ?
Finally removed some apps with titanium. Removed SIM toolkit. Now need to run in airplane mode or else get annoying messages in notification bar. I'd like to get it back. Possible to extract and post the apk?
Huh to the last sentence .
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Finally removed some apps with titanium. Removed SIM toolkit. Now need to run in airplane mode or else get annoying messages in notification bar. I'd like to get it back. Possible to extract and post the ask?
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And that is why I like to do a freeze first and make sure nothing bad happens.
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Huh to the last sentence .
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I meant SIM toolkit apk. Stupid autocorrect. Can someone extract and post it?
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And that is why I like to do a freeze first and make sure nothing bad happens.
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I know I got excited I can finally remove something
Beaware OTA fails if you remove system apps, update runs intergity checks against previous installed to updated versions. And if it is gone OTA fails. Trust me been modding phones many years.
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Also OTA sometimes updates the bootstrap image removing unlocked bootloader and even patching the kernel. And changlogs are usually not readily available with OTA's. Never used them after modding in my own opinion.
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You can factory restore the phone, hold down the vol +/- and power on device. You will see the cord symbol. The Huawei software will restore it. Like the restore in iTunes software. It's even possible to get an full system image if someone wants to look through services running in Windows background and find the temp location where the file is cache to. Just takes someone who wants to tackle this easiest way to make a flashable zip for TWRP. Surprisingly no one has said anything. Recovery image has to be downloaded via Huawei software then cache to temp folder. There is where it can be captured and copied before it is removed by recovery process.
Like a slide of hand?
Restoring back to factory stock should be a piece of cake using TWRP for those who made a full TWRP backup of their phonez before rooting as the instructions suggested .