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Anyone getting the T-Mobile version tomorrow? With CDMA not SIM capable, and AT&T version still up in the air, I think I'm probably going to get one tomorrow!
I've got question regarding T-Mobile's werid 3G band tho. I think Samsung listed T-Mobile's version as AWS 1700/2100. I know 1700 is weird, but is that AWS 2100 same as the 2100 band that the rest of the world use? Sorry it's my first 3G T-mobile device, and looking on wiki or google is just kinda vague
2100MHz is the band used all across Europe as well as large parts of Asia.
So, yes, the T-Mobile one should give you 3G capability in other parts of the world, though if it's locked that may open up other issues.
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2100MHz is the band used all across Europe as well as large parts of Asia.
So, yes, the T-Mobile one should give you 3G capability in other parts of the world, though if it's locked that may open up other issues.
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I had a TMo US G1, and it worked fine on 3G when I returned to the UK. The converse was not true of my TMo UK G2 (HTC Hero), which would only get Edge in the US because it did not support both bands of AWS (1700/2100).
So, I see no reason why a TMo US shouldn't work pretty much everywhere else in the world where 2100 3G is ubiquitous.
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Dave
Cool thanks, i guess that AWS threw me off. I thought there were a regular 2100, and then T-Mobile's AWS 2100
Step666 said:
2100MHz is the band used all across Europe as well as large parts of Asia.
So, yes, the T-Mobile one should give you 3G capability in other parts of the world, though if it's locked that may open up other issues.
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Actually you're a bit off. Tmo's 3G runs on AWS 1700/2100 band which is not the same 2100 *frequency* as the rest of the world. Tmo uses 1700 for downloads and 2100 for uploads, so both bands (aws/band IV) are needed.
Now Europe (and rest of GSM world) use straight 2100 band for 3G but the exact frequency is not the same as Tmo's.
Basically a Tmo Galaxy Tab will only get you EDGE outside of the US. An ATT Galaxy Tab will get you 3G in the US and the rest of the world (as long as it's sim unlocked, ofcourse).
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Basically a Tmo Galaxy Tab will only get you EDGE outside of the US. An ATT Galaxy Tab will get you 3G in the US and the rest of the world (as long as it's sim unlocked, ofcourse).
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No, the T-mobile phones give you also 3G in Europe. All AWS chipsets do both Band I (2100) and Band IV (AWS 1700/2100).
I thought the galaxy tab is quad band, so you can simply swap your sim card with another european carrier and it should work on thier frequency
Am I wrong?
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I thought the galaxy tab is quad band, so you can simply swap your sim card with another european carrier and it should work on thier frequency
Am I wrong?
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You're right for 2G, not for 3G
So getting the unlock code for tmobile device and putting AT&T sim card will not give me 3g connectivity (using AT&T network)?
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So getting the unlock code for tmobile device and putting AT&T sim card will not give me 3g connectivity (using AT&T network)?
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No, because it doesn't support the 850 or 1900 MHz bands.
Volker1 said:
No, the T-mobile phones give you also 3G in Europe. All AWS chipsets do both Band I (2100) and Band IV (AWS 1700/2100).
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It will not. Pls do some more reading on the subject. There's a very good writeup on it in these forum. Someone explained it better than I've probably done. If I find it I'll link to it.
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It will not. Pls do some more reading on the subject.
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One could say the same to you.
This is a link to T-Mobile US's support forum, in which someone has had it confirmed from T-Mobile themselves that all devices designed for their network have to be fully compatible with the 2100MHz band, meaning they will give you 3G capabilities in Europe.
Your previous post in which you claim that the 2100MHz band that T-Mobile use is not the same as the 2100MHz band the rest of the world uses is nothing short of ridiculous.
If the band T-Mobile used was different to the one used in the rest of the world, it would not be described as 2100MHz.
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It will not. Pls do some more reading on the subject. There's a very good writeup on it in these forum. Someone explained it better than I've probably done. If I find it I'll link to it.
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Sorry, but as I already said earlier in this thread, my T-Mobile US G1, which is an AWS device, worked perfectly well in the UK with full 3G. Similarly, I know of people who bought TMo Nexus Ones in the US, and these all worked fine in the UK.
That's not to say there isn't some subtle difference which not all chipsets can cater for, but it is certainly true that many TMo US handsets will give 3G capabilities in Europe.
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Dave
The normal UMTS 2100 is called "Band I" and t-mobile's AWS is called "Band IV":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The AWS 3G module has already 2100MHz support, so there is no additional hardware necessary to support Band I as well. Theoretically it could be disabled, of course, but then T-mobile wouldn't be able to charge you an arm and a leg if you were to roam outside of the US
can an unlocked at&t or sprint sgs3 work on tmobile's 4G network?
Sprint is cdma .... t-mobile and att are gsm
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Sprint no, t mobile edge speeds. No good news as to whether more would be possible on t mobile.
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not until t-mobile has completed refarming its 1900 frequency to HSPA+ ...at least for the international and AT&T models. im not sure about the Sprint version.
I heard that the Sprint variant of the S3 has a sim slot since its an international phone. All you have to do is root and unlock it and it should work on T-Mobile 4G.
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Sprint is cdma .... t-mobile and att are gsm
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that didnt answer my question.
prankoy said:
not until t-mobile has completed refarming its 1900 frequency to HSPA+ ...at least for the international and AT&T models.
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so currently, you cant get the int'l or at&t phone to work on tmo's 4G until tmo upgrades to HSPA+.. do you know when that will happen?
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that didnt answer my question.
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It does, actually… perhaps a bit too technical.
so currently, you cant get the int'l or at&t phone to work on tmo's 4G until tmo upgrades to HSPA+.. do you know when that will happen?
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That's not an accurate statement but it makes the point—non-T-Mobile GS3s won't work on T-Mobile's 3G/4G until they redeploy from 1700 to 1900 MHz.
T-Mobile hasn't put out a time table. AFAIK parts of downtown San Francisco (around the Moscone Center), parts of San Diego, and parts of Birmingham, Alabama (i.e. relatively nowhere) are the only places TMO has this configuration deployed.
That's not exactly true parts of Bellevue and Seattle Washington have been reformed too so I'm sure there's more areas
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I heard that the Sprint variant of the S3 has a sim slot since its an international phone. All you have to do is root and unlock it and it should work on T-Mobile 4G.
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nope, there's only an sd card slot in the sprint variant, the sim card is embedded
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that didnt answer question
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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It does, actually… perhaps a bit too technical.
That's not an accurate statement but it makes the point—non-T-Mobile GS3s won't work on T-Mobile's 3G/4G until they redeploy from 1700 to 1900 MHz.
T-Mobile hasn't put out a time table. AFAIK parts of downtown San Francisco (around the Moscone Center), parts of San Diego, and parts of Birmingham, Alabama (i.e. relatively nowhere) are the only places TMO has this configuration deployed.
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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it did not.. i got a gsm phone from at&t thats unlocked to work on tmo. but i cant get it to work on tmo 4G.. thats why he didnt answer my question.
Look up t mobile 1900 mhz refarming. Thats ur best shot. Other than that right now signs are pointing to no hardware support for t mobiles currnt hspa bands. Basically, cross your fingers that tmobile changes to your frequency in your area with this phone. Tmobiles doin cuz they want to steal awayviphine users so they do have incentive. We'll be on that train too tho.
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
it did not.. i got a gsm phone from at&t thats unlocked to work on tmo. but i cant get it to work on tmo 4G.. thats why he didnt answer my question.
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Yes, t-mobile uses the same tech, but is gimped as far as the 1900mhz band goes. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a definitive adviser as to when they will overhaul their services.
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Look up t mobile 1900 mhz refarming. Thats ur best shot. Other than that right now signs are pointing to no hardware support for t mobiles currnt hspa bands. Basically, cross your fingers that tmobile changes to your frequency in your area with this phone. Tmobiles doin cuz they want to steal awayviphine users so they do have incentive. We'll be on that train too tho.
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i see.. so, tmo right now supports 1900 for their 4G. and the samsung galaxy s3 uses 1900, right?
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Yes, t-mobile uses the same tech, but is gimped as far as the 1900mhz band goes. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a definitive adviser as to when they will overhaul their services.
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i'm a bit confused here.. maybe you, r3a1ist or someone can help. i called tmo and they said that the samsung galaxy s3 works on their 1700 - 2100 while at&t has 850 - 1900.
i'm really confused because on the tmo website, the specs for the SGS3 says that it works on the following bands:
tmo:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
i got 4 questions:
1) what frequencies does the tmo version work on.
2) what are the frequencies that at&t uses for its SGS3.
3) what frequency does tmo use for its 4G (internet) network.
4) when LTE comes out next yr on tmo, will samsung release a new line of SGS3 specifically for tmo to work on its LTE?
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he didnt answer my question. anyway, do you know when tmo will deploy this upgrade to nyc?
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Never, probably… I don't have a source (you can Google it) but T-Mobile does not have enough spectrum in NYC to do much shuffling.
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i see.. so, tmo right now supports 1900 for their 4G. and the samsung galaxy s3 uses 1900, right?
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You're not reading the thread, and/or are not understanding technical details. Answering your original question:
can an unlocked at&t or sprint sgs3 work on tmobile's 4G network?
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No, it won't.
The Sprint model apparently does not work. The AT&T may work later this year depending on your area. Are you asking whether you want to make a $500+ bet that it will? That's up to you—I wouldn't.
i'm a bit confused here.. maybe you, r3a1ist or someone can help. i called tmo and they said that the samsung galaxy s3 works on their 1700 - 2100 while at&t has 850 - 1900.
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I rarely get straight or correct answers from TMO's support, but yes—that's correct. What are you confused about?
i'm really confused because on the tmo website, the specs for the SGS3 says that it works on the following bands:
tmo:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
i got 4 questions:
1) what frequencies does the tmo version work on.
2) what are the frequencies that at&t uses for its SGS3.
3) what frequency does tmo use for its 4G (internet) network.
4) when LTE comes out next yr on tmo, will samsung release a new line of SGS3 specifically for tmo to work on its LTE?
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1) It works on the frequencies you posted. Let's rewrite that:
GSM/EDGE (aka 2G): 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz
UMTS/HSPA+ (aka 3G/4G): 850, 1700 (aka AWS), 1900 MHz
Is it less confusing now?
2) AT&T uses 850 Mhz and 1900 MHz for their HSPA+ service.
3) TMO as of July 2012 uses 1700 MHz for most their HSPA+ service. T-Mobile will support HSPA+ on 1900 MHz in some parts of the USA by the end of the year. Very few areas (T-Mobile has only officially disclosed a tower near the Moscone Center, in San Francisco) do so now. Concrete details are sparse and nonspecific.
4) Next year is a long time—the SGS3 will be old by then, and the Galaxy Note 2 or SGS4 will have been announced. Nobody can predict the future. But, looking at the past, TMO released a new "4G" version of the Vibrant, so it's also likely they release new "LTE" versions of their phones.
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1) It works on the frequencies you posted. Let's rewrite that:
GSM/EDGE (aka 2G): 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Mhz
UMTS/HSPA+ (aka 3G/4G): 850, 1700 (aka AWS), 1900 MHz
Is it less confusing now?
2) AT&T uses 850 Mhz and 1900 MHz for their HSPA+ service.
3) TMO as of July 2012 uses 1700 MHz for most their HSPA+ service. T-Mobile will support HSPA+ on 1900 MHz in some parts of the USA by the end of the year. Very few areas (T-Mobile has only officially disclosed a tower near the Moscone Center, in San Francisco) do so now. Concrete details are sparse and nonspecific.
4) Next year is a long time—the SGS3 will be old by then, and the Galaxy Note 2 or SGS4 will have been announced. Nobody can predict the future. But, looking at the past, TMO released a new "4G" version of the Vibrant, so it's also likely they release new "LTE" versions of their phones.
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its much less confusing now. thank you so much. its looks like the tmo tech guy i called was ignorant and didnt know what he was talking about. again, thanks.
one last question.. do you think that if i got the tmo version of the SGS3 and when LTE is released that the phone will no longer use HSPA? when LTE comes out, will the phone no longer use fast internet?
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one last question.. do you think that if i got the tmo version of the SGS3 and when LTE is released that the phone will no longer use HSPA? when LTE comes out, will the phone no longer use fast internet?
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Yeah… that's a complicated question whose answer I don't yet understand myself.
TMO is doing their 1900 MHz refarming to free up 1700 MHz for use w/ LTE. Stuff I'm wondering:
What happens to older 3G/4G devices that don't support 1900 MHz? Do they lose their 3G/4G Internet? Note: the GS3 supports 1900 MHz, and does not have this problem.
How is TMO going to deploy in spectrum crunched areas (like NYC)? They don't have enough spectrum to move everyone over to 1900 MHz—does this mean 1700 MHz HSPA+ will be cut off when they bring 1700 MHz LTE online? Your non-LTE GS3 might lose 3G/4G Internet in this situation—but I doubt TMO would do this to anyone with a phone still in contract.
All in all, make your purchasing situation on the situation today. The next new thing is always around the corner.
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Yeah… that's a complicated question whose answer I don't yet understand myself.
TMO is doing their 1900 MHz refarming to free up 1700 MHz for use w/ LTE. Stuff I'm wondering:
What happens to older 3G/4G devices that don't support 1900 MHz? Do they lose their 3G/4G Internet? Note: the GS3 supports 1900 MHz, and does not have this problem.
How is TMO going to deploy in spectrum crunched areas (like NYC)? They don't have enough spectrum to move everyone over to 1900 MHz—does this mean 1700 MHz HSPA+ will be cut off when they bring 1700 MHz LTE online? Your non-LTE GS3 might lose 3G/4G Internet in this situation—but I doubt TMO would do this to anyone with a phone still in contract.
All in all, make your purchasing situation on the situation today. The next new thing is always around the corner.
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hi tamasrepus... just to let you know, when i called the tmo rep like i told you in my previous post, he said that the SGS3 will use LTE.. but after your answers discredited him, i dont believe him. i guess we got to wait and see.
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It did actually, AT&T and T-Mobile are gsm, while Verizon and sprint are cdma... completely different services. Your only choice is an AT&T, T-Mobile or a gsm international.
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But LTE is a gsm technology, currently sprints/Verizons phone (Verizon razr maxx works on international/att networks after a recent update) is a hybrid, but they have weird lte frequencies, I've read that all US carriers will have incompatible freqs, but qualcom is building a chip that does them all plus European ones.
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It's simple, T mobile phone works on At&t HSPA but not LTE. At&t phone works on its own HSPA and LTE but not T moble 1700 HSPA. We've been trying to see if we can make it work on t mobiles 1700 hspa band, no luck yet. To make matters more uncertain. T mobile says they're refarming their 2g/edge spectrum to work on At&t's 1900 HSPA band. The At&t phone out of the box would be able to pick up this 1900 HSPA t mobile refarm. Although reports of this actually occuring are sporadic and they also fired the CEO who's plan it is a couple weeks ago. LoL. If you get that, that's the complete break down. So here you go:
T mobile phone - Supports both T mobile and At&t HSPA 4g speeds, no LTE of any kind.
At&t phone- Supports At&t LTE and HSPA only right now, t mobile HSPA "may" be available for it's antenna's in the future.
Hey guys. Have a chance to take GS4 but is there any info how to unlock it to use on TMobile?
DOes it have AWS bands for supporting TMobile HSPA?
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Hey guys. Have a chance to take GS4 but is there any info how to unlock it to use on TMobile?
DOes it have AWS bands for supporting TMobile HSPA?
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Why just not get T-Mobile's version?
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Why just not get T-Mobile's version?
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Great idea but there are no TMo offers yet. They plan to put it in their stores around 8-15 May. So if there is no chance to unlock ATT one I'll wait for TMo.
I'd wait. With the AT&T version you'll only get 850mhz/1900mhz HSPA, whereas the LTE would work fine. You'd definitely want AWS HSPA+ if your on T-Mobile. Their 1900mhz refarming is very spotty and not matured.
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I'd wait. With the AT&T version you'll only get 850mhz/1900mhz HSPA, whereas the LTE would work fine. You'd definitely want AWS HSPA+ if your on T-Mobile. Their 1900mhz refarming is very spotty and not matured.
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Yes anyway I need HSPA+. I use ATT Note2 that supports it. But it is unknows if ATT GS4 supports it as well.
You should definitely wait. Or if you're buying outright full price, just get the international I9505.
Well thanks i9505 is too expensive
1-2 more weeks not a big deal then
If you live in Queens there are some T-Mobile stores launching the fone on the 1st... Actually only 3 stores in Queens launching on the 1st.
It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
Perhaps the same fix applies to the new chipset in the S4?
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The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
Perhaps the same fix applies to the new chipset in the S4?
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On Note 2 AWS HSPA can be enabled through service menu so I've made. Do not know about GS3..
Tmobile or ATT version S4
Will T-mobile S4, which I am sure will come as locked, work on ATT network (3G/4G/LTE) once unlocked? It appears that ATT version lacks Tmobile's 1700 band for 3G/4G. But does Tmobile version S4 comes with 1700/1900/2100 plus LTE band that works at both carriers provided that it is unlocked? If not is there an S4 unlocked version that can be purchased so that it works at both carrier's 3G/4G/LTE?
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Will T-mobile S4, which I am sure will come as locked, work on ATT network (3G/4G/LTE) once unlocked? It appears that ATT version lacks Tmobile's 1700 band for 3G/4G. But does Tmobile version S4 comes with 1700/1900/2100 plus LTE band that works at both carriers provided that it is unlocked? If not is there an S4 unlocked version that can be purchased so that it works at both carrier's 3G/4G/LTE?
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4g lte shoukd work straight out of the box since tmobile uses the same lte band as at&t. and im pretty positive hspa should work too cause you dont need 3 bands all time. I have tmobile note 2 on att and i have all 2g hspa and lte.
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It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
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Could you please provide a source for this? I've been looking but can't find any confirmation. I was thinking both phones would have the same hardware (cheaper to manufacture) but the modem firmware would simply disable some bands on the AT&T model.
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It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
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Turns out the hardware is identical on both the AT&T and the T-Mobile models. More info on this post. Cross-referencing posts to avoid duplicating info, and in case someone is interested.
what about unlocking the phone(t-mobile version)? anything available besides buying the code?
noob question
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The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
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hi there, what QUALCOMM software would this be? sorry for the noob question
Hi, Does any know if its all vice versa?
NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile NOTE3 using it with a T-Mobile SIM, (vice versa) T-mobile & A&T NOTE3 using AT&T SIM?
(Both NOTE3 is unlocked & using in urban BIG city)
Will there be any difference speed LTE and speed 3G & 4G you receive?
Will the LTE signal not be as strong each other?
Will be any problem each other (vice versa)?
Do you think we can enable AWS on NOTE3 AT&T? (same like Note2 and S4 AT&T)
Which hardware Note3 AT&T or T-Mobile is better having multi-LTE or more compability network each other (freq band spectrum)?
I don't really know much about LTE signals between AT&T and T-Mobile, compatibility, etc. So, I was wondering if you can help me to decide which one are those? How long to get unlock code from the 1st day i purchased with full price NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile?
Please...please... help for answer & information. I'm very appreciate and thank you so much for explanation everything. :good::victory:
P.S. Sorry & apologize about my bad english
If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.
I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
Regarding your question, I opted for the T-Mobile version. Location will determine network performance...
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I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
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Sorry for re-posting again, peace out
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If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.
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But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks
Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know which one would be compatible for Wind/Mobilcity (Aws Canadian Market)?
Note 3 from At&Tor T-Mobile... in the past I believe T-Mobile phones are compatible because of 1700 and 2100 frequencies... however due to T-Mobile refarming (I have limited knowledge about it) and new frequencies.... would an At&t note 3 be modified to work on aws
????
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But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks
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To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.
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To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.
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There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.
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There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.
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I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!
Here is the T-mo website:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-3
here is the frequencies:
Network
3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G/UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850)
LTE: Band 4, Band 17, Band 1(2100), Band 2(1900), 5(850), 7(2600)
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I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!
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Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.
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Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.
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Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.
PoisonWolf said:
Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.
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Exactly what happened for me. It was the top xda result for me.
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Hey everyone!
I've been looking on the OnePlus forums lately, and lots of people have questions about carrier compatibility with the One. Personally, carrier compatibility is the biggest factor when it comes to buying an unlocked phone, so I decided to make this thread to help guide people with compatibility with their carriers. According to OnePlus's website, the bands that are supported are as follows:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Now, I am going to start with USA compatibility. If anyone else would like me to add compatibility with their carrier, please reply to the thread, and I'll see what I can do. Hopefully, this will benefit all members of the community.
USA
AT&T
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 5.
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
MVNOs of AT&T : Straight Talk, Net10, AIO
T-Mobile
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 4 ("4G" HSPA+)
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
MVNOs of T-Mobile : MetroPCS, Ultra Mobile, Lycamobile, Straight Talk, Net10
Sprint
INCOMPATIBLE
Verizon
INCOMPATIBLE
TELUS Details
TELUS is one of the 9 cellular networks in Canada. TELUS is owned and operated by Koodo Mobility and Telus Mobility
TELUS has an average 3G download speed of 4.3 Mb/s, which is better than the global average of 1.8 Mb/s.
TELUS is a 4G network. 4G is the latest generation of cellular technology, allowing high definition video streaming and crystal clear voice calls. We first recorded TELUS 4G on the 11th of Nov 2011. TELUS has an average 4G download speed of 15 Mb/s, which is than the global average of 8.1 Mb/s.
TELUS uses the UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900 frequency bands for its network
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How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
UNITED KINGDOM
It'll work fine on:
EE (Bands 3 & 7 supported by OPO)
Partially:
Three (Band 3 supported, Band 20 isn't by OPO. Band 20 people say will be used for rural areas)
No LTE:
O2 and Vodafone (Both use Band 20 which isn't support by OPO)
3G will obviously be fine however.
Sources:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/c...clear-up.8034/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...etworks#Europe
dracinn said:
How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
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You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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FuMMoD said:
You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
dracinn said:
Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
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That's the cool thing about ST you get the choice of 2 different providers. Glad you were able to figure out the better of the two for your uses. Don't forget to check in areas where you frequently travel to as well.
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http://forums.oneplus.net/threads/carrier-confusion-clear-up.8034/
More carriers and more countries that it's compatible with
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treChoy said:
T-Mobile
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
Planterz said:
I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
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Very true. T-Mo will probably use this band to expand coverage, Good catch :good:
However, it should be worth noting that T-Mo plans to cannibalize (AKA "refarm") its EDGE network into LTE. This may sound great; however, this EDGE that they will be converting will be broadcasted on the 1900 MHz spectrum (Band 2 LTE). The OPO will not support Band 2, so OPO users on T-Mo will not be able to take advantage of LTE in many rural areas and markets.
Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
Portugal
2G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
3G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
LTE - Compatibility on 1800MHz and 2600MHz frequencies which should cover big population agglomerates on Optimus, TMN and Vodafone. 800MHz left out, so outside cities (and probably inside buildings and small cities) it will most likely revert to 3G.
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AT&T
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
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Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
Italy
2G: full compatibility with TIM;
3G: full compatibility with TIM;
4G: compatibility with TIM only 1800 and 2600 MHz, band 3 and 7.
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Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
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I agree, the lack of proper LTE bands really are a turn-off for this phone. Just look at our friends in Europe, whose widely-deployed LTE Band 20 is not supported. I'm not saying that the LTE bands here on AT&T are optimal, but it's worth pointing out that it could be worse. The fact that the One supports Band 17 should be satisfactory for many users; it's AT&T's low-frequency band, so theoretically, it should cover the most people. The higher frequencies would only make sense being deployed in areas with mass congestion. So in cities, it's fair to assume that you'll get lower-than-average LTE speeds.
Now, it could be worse. Take a look at T-Mo users (like myself). We're pretty much getting screwed over. Band 4 LTE, the band that they're using now, is very high frequency. Building penetration sucks. Coverage and range sucks. Their network currently is weak. The new bands they are deploying will be lower frequency, so they should provide more coverage and reliability. However, of course, the OPO doesn't support them, which is a major blow to T-Mobile USA customers.
But hey, for $300 for an amazingly-spec'd phone, we have to expect that some compromises had to be made.
anuj247 said:
Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
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India
Vodafone
2G/EDGE/GPRS : most likely supported
3G/UMTS : Yes, Band 1 UMTS is utilized by Vodafone India, and it's supported by the One.
4G LTE : not supported by Vodafone
Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
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Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
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Any specific carrier?
What about The Netherlands?
Carriers:
Tele2
T-Mobile
KPN
Vodafone
Finland:
All operators (Elisa, Sonera, DNA).
2G 900,1800MHz are both supported
3G 900, 2100MHz are both supported
4G/LTE Channels 3(1800MHz) and 7(2600MHz) are supported. Channel 20(800MHz) is not supported
Lack of support for channel 20 will limit LTE only to densely populated areas.