Just a q, why does android waste many ram. I have 690mb then some unknown stuff keep eating it leaving only 100+ mb left.Why is this so?
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RAM that is not used is wasted. Its normal to have some free though for system processes and for fast tasking.
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RAM that is not used is wasted. Its normal to have some free though for system processes and for fast tasking.
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I mean, what is 5/6 of my ram being used on?
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Thats a galaxy tab 2 not a nexus 7 . And judging by ram is stock rom.
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okay, let me put it this way: wasted ram is the ram not used. the more ram used for an app, the better it runs. so android, being a modern operating system, allows dynamic ram allocation, so it decides how much ram is used for a specific app. the operating allows the current app to eat up as memory as possible, so it runs smoothly. when you start multitasking, the background apps starts to take up memory FROM the current app. and when a background app takes too much ram, it will be killed automatically.
to sum up, dont worry about memory allocation on android, the os manages it just fine.
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I have rooted my Asus TF, Put on the H 3.1 os, used Clemsyn Blades kernel, running very nicely. I have rooted it, and uninstalled crap like facebook, books, splashtop etc...lot of useless bloatware is out...However here is the problem........LOW MEMORY....This machine has ram of 1GB, and only 800mb shows, so almost 200 for the GI, and out of that 800, about 400mb is always used, despite using various app killers, I think we should be able to get it to about 200mb used? anyone know where so much of ram is bieng eaten
My question to you great knowledgeable friends is;
1) how to get rid of more useless apps eating memory
2) does using a different launcher reduce ram eating?
3) is it possible to achieve about 200-300mb consistent ram?
This is an awsome machine, I think more tweks we can make is super. I have a Samsung GS2, I have removed most of the stock stuff on it and set up my ownlauncher etc. It runs with amazing memory, 500mb free, and awsome graphics interface. Less nonsense.
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I have rooted my Asus TF, Put on the H 3.1 os, used Clemsyn Blades kernel, running very nicely. I have rooted it, and uninstalled crap like facebook, books, splashtop etc...lot of useless bloatware is out...However here is the problem........LOW MEMORY....This machine has ram of 1GB, and only 800mb shows, so almost 200 for the GI, and out of that 800, about 400mb is always used, despite using various app killers, I think we should be able to get it to about 200mb used? anyone know where so much of ram is bieng eaten
My question to you great knowledgeable friends is;
1) how to get rid of more useless apps eating memory
2) does using a different launcher reduce ram eating?
3) is it possible to achieve about 200-300mb consistent ram?
This is an awsome machine, I think more tweks we can make is super. I have a Samsung GS2, I have removed most of the stock stuff on it and set up my ownlauncher etc. It runs with amazing memory, 500mb free, and awsome graphics interface. Less nonsense.
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If you haven't done so already you could use Titanium Backup to remove more stuff (including system apps) since you're rooted. I would advise caution however in case you remove the wrong thing. Perhaps someone else can post regarding which particular system apps are safe to remove, as I haven't expreimented with this myself.
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If you haven't done so already you could use Titanium Backup to remove more stuff (including system apps) since you're rooted. I would advise caution however in case you remove the wrong thing. Perhaps someone else can post regarding which particular system apps are safe to remove, as I haven't expreimented with this myself.
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Ive done that and removed about 10 items. Its running well at 1.4GHz but only problem too much ram usage.
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If you haven't done so already you could use Titanium Backup to remove more stuff (including system apps) since you're rooted. I would advise caution however in case you remove the wrong thing. Perhaps someone else can post regarding which particular system apps are safe to remove, as I haven't expreimented with this myself.
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He could just freeze them first and play with the tf a couple of days and if there are no problems, delete them.
Removing junk isn't a bad thing to do, but in my experience, app killers do more bad than good in android. Other than in windows, you don't need tons of free ram to run apps smoothly. Android has a great ram management that fills your ram with apps for fast access, and closes the least used/needed when another app requests more ram. So if you use an app killer, your tf will have more to do with restarting the apps you just closed and your performance will actually decrease. Google it and you'll know what I mean.
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MasterfullDON said:
Ive done that and removed about 10 items. Its running well at 1.4GHz but only problem too much ram usage.
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As i said before, much ram usage isn't necessarily a bad thing. It only eats performance if a running app is badly coded and doesn't give its ram free when required. Then you better kill this specific app instead of autokilling stuff. Well coded apps won't eat your performance, no matter how much ram is used.
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300Mb oof ram are dedicated to Nvidia Tegra 2. For this reason you read "only" 700Mb. Maybe in near future we will able to allocate more memory than 256Mb to our Tegra 2
memory usage doesn't mean too much now if the app/programe is properly coded, when needed, android should be able to release them on the fly......
same goes to my windows 7 machine, it's got 8 gig memory but the free memory always remains under 500M because the system is using them to cache most recently used applications.
Constantly clearing memory will not help too much, and believe or not, it worsens both the performance and the battery life..
but again, android is not as robust as windows in the terms of memory management, so it's not a bad idea to occasionally take a look at the actual memory usage but just don't go too excessive...
Screwing around with app-killers is never a good idea. Are you actually experiencing issues due to insufficient RAM? I've never had an issue with RAM on my Transformer. Android is much better at handling its memory than people are, let it do its thing.
And for the record, RAM is there to be used. It's the fastest memory a device has, so the more it makes use of, the better. If something else needs more RAM, Android will flush out something that doesn't need it.
I think app-killers are one of the biggest issues with Android, in that people seem to think they're necessary. Unless you actually have some app that's misbehaving or has a memory-leak or something, you shouldn't ever really need to manage your running applications. Just leave it all alone for a while and see how you go.
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And for the record, RAM is there to be used. It's the fastest memory a device has, so the more it makes use of, the better. If something else needs more RAM, Android will flush out something that doesn't need it.
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Perfectly said. Don't mess your Transformer around with "Task Manager"-type apps.
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Are you actually experiencing issues due to insufficient RAM? go.
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not at all. The machine is fast, its very quick and loads things quickly. The only time I had problem is using logmein, it crashed and said out of memory...I was a bit perplexed. I cleared a lot on my SGS2, and it was much faster.
Let me know any ideas, otherwise, as suggested, I will see how it goes
From my previous experience with Android devices, it's nearly impossible to increase the amount of free ram. I've tried, and only found one solution that I'll talk about later.
This isn't a bad thing. Ram is not CPU usage, and ram is going to use roughly the same amount of electricity regardless.
What android does is fill up the ram with programs that you will potentially use. That way when you want to use the program, it's already loaded in memory. When you load another program into memory, say a game, it will close apps to make room for the new app.
If you really want more memory, the closest thing is a swap file or partition. I use one on my phone, and it helps a good bit. Don't know if it would help the TF101, since it already has 1GB ram.
If you are still set on more free ram, try a program like auto memory manager (there is also another program very similar, has a blue fish for a logo but I forget the name). This doesn't kill apps in memory. Instead it changes the the when android closes programs in memory based on how much free memory is available and the priority of the program. I used it before on my phone with pretty good success, but now I use a swap file instead.
Right now I don't use a swap file or memory manager on my tf101, sine it runs great without it.
Thanks for all your responses.
I think this article should explain how Android 2.x operates. Even though the article is not about Honeycomb (Android 3.x), I doubt Google has changed how it manages memory in Honeycomb.
Article here: h**p://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
(Sorry, can't link due to XDA's 8+ post policy...)
I only have 55xMB memory shown in the application though.
154MB Used 398MB Free
Hi,
I noticed that ram usage on galaxy s4 is very high even when all of the apps are closed. I have used task manager to close all of the apps and then cleared the memory but there was still about 1.05GB of ram used. I don't know if this is normal since I haven't been using android phone for 2 years. Can somebody tell me if this is normal and why? If not what can I do to fix it? Thanks!
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its normal for s4... some stock apps are being cached in memory for faster operations
unused ram is wasted ram. If an app needs extra space, something will be automatically killed to make that space.
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unused ram is wasted ram. If an app needs extra space, something will be automatically killed to make that space.
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all of this is true... also keep in mind, the gpu requires slightly more ram because of the 1080p resolution.
Ok. Thank you all for the help
This is the problem of Sammy ROMs, the only way to fix it is to... wait for a Custom ROM and Flash it
this is normal on SGS4 .
Reasons of that are mainly GPU and HQ resolution , cached services and process, and even more if you are using the included extra features (S-voice, NFC ...)
But the SGS4 come with 2 gb of RAM ! you still get like 800 free mb of memory that is good enough for all you needs ))
Personally when I close all apps i get 0.91 gb used memry and 0.9bg free memory
Hi,
I looked at my free ram and on daily use I have 1 GB of free ram.
So is there any sens to use ram manger to allow android use more ram (mean to not kill app and has less free ram)?
Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
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Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
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i cant say i like the way android does it, even though it does do it. i use greenify, and autostarts to prevent apps from starting in the background. also, i change the numbers to androids ram management. now im happy
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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ive never noticed that its slowed.
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But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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If you have widgets on your lock screen or on your home screen they will use up ram. Uninstall any apps you rarely use to free up ram.
Don't see why you're worried. You have as much FREE ram as an s3 does on the box
On a more serious note, I doubt you'll see any difference by freeing up ram. 500-600 mb of free ram = smooth experience generally
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I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
You're wasting your time worrying about it.
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I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
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This is true, forget about ram manager and dont be paranoid about the free/used ram amout
Thanks for help, I will not use any ram manager etc.
I think ram is totally bloated with stuff, I mean.. 200-500(max)megabytes of free ram at normal use!?
I have 2gigabytes of ram. And standard system resources take like everything.
I run alliance ROM without all samsung and google bloat and still the ram is just eaten up by what?
I have disabled countless apps and services too that I don't want running. I have even gone in deep into services and disabled parts of them that is not needed with the old system tuner app.
A lot of appz is blocked from even startup on my system and I never leave anything running in background in applist...
How come android system eats so goddamn much ram? Should this systems not be light weight?
My Bloated windows 7 system does not even take so much.
Please explain why this ram occupation is necessary and what I can do about it.
I would like to debloat my system even more and free up as much resources as possible..
Will this minimal extremely debloated ~500mb ROM's solve this issue?
What good is ram if its not being used? i dont understand this obsession with needing as much free ram as possible the more memory used for cache the better.
Id be more worried if 50% was free.
Do you use any task killer cleaner or antivirus?
But don´t worry. Android its not a windows. Android has Low Memory Killer and use it when is it necesary
Almost full RAM = good RAM
Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
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Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
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It is normal that your phone uses ram although 1 gb available is a bit low. Maybe factory reset the phone? If that doesn't work I would go back to where you got it from or contact samsung support
I checked and I have about 1.5 available after closing all apps and optimisation
I typically have 500-700 free on mine and experience no lag. Unix based OSes are supposed to occupy memory in order to launch things faster.
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Yeah don't worry it's normal !
Some OS almost use 100% of RAM, but keep providing a perfect multitasking.
It doesn't mean that you will only have 700-900 Mo available for your multitasking, your OS will free RAM if necessary and let it to the apps. And even with 10 open apps in window mode, you will still have 700 Mo of RAM available
Thanks everyone. I have 1-1.2gb free with no active apps and now i see it's ok. Phone becomes a little slower when there are many apps open, but I believe it's also ok, nothing critical.
Why do people care how much RAM is free? I don't worry about it on my phone or laptops. I just let the devices do what they do best -- entertain me
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Why do people care how much RAM is free? I don't worry about it on my phone or laptops. I just let the devices do what they do best -- entertain me
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I noticed lags and then saw that I have low free ram. On my previous leeco le max 2 I've had 1.8-2 gb free. So i thought maybe i do something wrong and more free ram will make phone faster. But looks like everything's fine.
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Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
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In Android unused Ram is wasted Ram. You normally want to have about 500 free. If you're noticing that every time you open an app again it has to reload then yes it's an issue.
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Hi; if you want more free ram you can reduse background process in setting/developer option
if you set background process on 2 system will process only two apps.
if your phone is slow when ram is full you can use ram booster.
Force close it! and greenify (need root) are the best ram booster.
Just uninstall applicatiions that you dont use or disable them. Pretty simple
yes more ram usage is not more battery drain, and device lag if there is no more ram or not enough available but its like if you only fill 1/4 of your fridge , your fridge won't consume more power if you put more stuff on it and it become only a problem if you want to put a big thing on it but its already full , so its only now that its useful so empty a bit the fridge to make space , but empty your fridge to put nothing on it is useless, you know what I mean?