I am running the odexed version of the stock ROM with custom recovery. I am also running twrp (custom recovery).soo will I be Able to update to key lime pie without any problem?
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I am running the odexed version of the stock ROM with custom recovery. I am also running twrp (custom recovery).soo will I be Able to update to key lime pie without any problem?
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[TL;DR] No.
Well, the stock ROMs are also odexed - I think the problem will be the zipaligning of the factory .apk files. Even though they are functionally equivalent to the originals, they will have different checksums than the originals, and thus every one of them that undergoes an update will fail the initial checksum verification.
Yes and no; when it goes out ota it won't flash properly because you have a custom recovery. However, wait half a day after the update comes and I'm sure someone will have a flashable version uploaded to these forums.
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I'm gonna update my answer above - I'm guilty of not reading your post carefully.
I had a look at
[ROM][Factory Image][4.2.2] Nakasi -::- Odex, Deodex, Rooted -::- teshxx (02/14/13)
and the dev does not mention "zipalign". Moreover, you said "odexed", which is closest to the Factory ROM as it is also odexed.
So long as teshxx literally did not touch either the .apk files, or their corresponding .odex files from the factory ROM, then the OTA won't fault out on initial checks because of those specific files on the odexed version of his ROM. (Disclaimer: I did not download his ROM and verify that this was the case).
It is possible that it will fail for other reasons though. Simply put, the OTAs are not intended for patching anything other than pure stock ROMs. (Also note that some root-aware apps modify /system; so even if you didn't directly alter things that will break an OTA, by granting these apps root privilege, it might happen anyway).
Who said the N7 was getting Key lime Pie? I think you are jumping the gun a bit since it hasn't officially been anounced. I am still waiting for JB for my TF101.
AW: [Q] Updating to keylime pie!
as if there is even the slightest chances for the nexus 7 not to get official klp...
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jadesse said:
Who said the N7 was getting Key lime Pie? I think you are jumping the gun a bit since it hasn't officially been anounced. I am still waiting for JB for my TF101.
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Its a nexus device. We will be among the first 5 devices to get the new os, whatever they call it. That is one of the lead reasons for buying nexus devices.
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I'm sure someone will have a flashable version uploaded to these forums.
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Its a nexus device. We will be among the first 5 devices to get the new os, whatever they call it. That is one of the lead reasons for buying nexus devices. Where as for you, you have to wait for google to release, then for asus to do what they want to it (bloatware, drivers,......) and then release it to the end user. All we have to wait on is for google to release for the grouper. Nexus devices get ours straight from google, and 100% aosp. I would imagine we will get it directly after N10, N4 and whatever new device may or may not debut.
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Dang-it, i replied to myself instead of edit.
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How about you wait for it to be released first, then weigh your options? This thread is absolutely pointless.
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Hi
I recently bought a Nexus 7 that came with 4.1.1. I updated ota to 4.1.2 then rooted with a toolkit. For reasons I can't remember I then un-rooted and locked back bootloader. Now, games like dead trigger tell me my device is incompatible with them, even though they ran well on 4.1.1.
What can I do ? Flash another stock version of 4.1.2 ?
Thank you
I don't think there is any link between your root status and software compatibility, you could flash the 4.1.2 stock image to be sure, but I think it more likely that your game needs to be updated.
Rooting does not change your build.prop fingerprint, but the update to 4.1.2 does. This is what the market uses to judge what software will run on your device along with your locale.
adstraylight said:
I don't think there is any link between your root status and software compatibility, you could flash the 4.1.2 stock image to be sure, but I think it more likely that your game needs to be updated.
Rooting does not change your build.prop fingerprint, but the update to 4.1.2 does. This is what the market uses to judge what software will run on your device along with your locale.
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flashed stock rom. working fine now.
topic can now be closed
thank you
alexzlx said:
Hi
I recently bought a Nexus 7 that came with 4.1.1. I updated ota to 4.1.2 then rooted with a toolkit. For reasons I can't remember I then un-rooted and locked back bootloader. Now, games like dead trigger tell me my device is incompatible with them, even though they ran well on 4.1.1.
What can I do ? Flash another stock version of 4.1.2 ?
Thank you
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There's a lot of things that aren’t compatible with 4.1.2. I'm still running them. You can make a back up the next time to keep the apps. Or use app back up and restore to make a apk and install it on your N7.
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Apocalypse487 said:
There's a lot of things that aren’t compatible with 4.1.2. I'm still running them. You can make a back up the next time to keep the apps. Or use app back up and restore to make a apk and install it on your N7.
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Actually rooting 4.1.2 with the toolkit changed a setting and thus making the n7 incompatible with tegra 3 games
alexzlx said:
Actually rooting 4.1.2 with the toolkit changed a setting and thus making the n7 incompatible with tegra 3 games
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Like you can’t install those tegra 3 games from unknown sources?
I have dead space for GB and it doesn't work on ICS or JB, but I backed up the game into a apk and installed it. It worked after that.
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Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
Thanks Guys
George
Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35472344#post35472344
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.
BrianDigital said:
IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
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Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!
I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...
Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.
I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.
Hey,
I have a question regarding rooting and upgrading.
Before i root, I would like to know if I do root, how will I upgrade to KLP when it is released for nexus 10?
Do i have to restore?
It depends on the situation. If you root, using a backup app like carbon or titanium backup will ensure anytime you update or change a rom you keep all your goodies. If your root only and don't change your rom you will get the OTA and it will lose root (easy to fix) and your stuff will stay.
Changing your rom is a different story though
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So on stock...
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It depends on the situation. If you root, using a backup app like carbon or titanium backup will ensure anytime you update or change a rom you keep all your goodies. If your root only and don't change your rom you will get the OTA and it will lose root (easy to fix) and your stuff will stay.
Changing your rom is a different story though
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I'm on stock, but when klp releases, can i just update ? Would jb> klp be too big of a change that a lot of bugs may arise?
For example, I used to have a rooted nook color, it updated and I got unrooted... There ended up being bugs even after I rerooted it...
I am just wondering is updating then rerooting the correct method...
add12364 said:
I'm on stock, but when klp releases, can i just update ? Would jb> klp be too big of a change that a lot of bugs may arise?
For example, I used to have a rooted nook color, it updated and I got unrooted... There ended up being bugs even after I rerooted it...
I am just wondering is updating then rerooting the correct method...
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It's stock Google software. I had a Nook Color as well and they tried to block root on it anyway they could. There is no knowing if the upgrade to KLP will be easy (history tells us it will be) and root should be on board almost immediately after release, at the very worst you would have to reroot but that is nothing.
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altimax98 said:
It's stock Google software. I had a Nook Color as well and they tried to block root on it anyway they could. There is no knowing if the upgrade to KLP will be easy (history tells us it will be) and root should be on board almost immediately after release, at the very worst you would have to reroot but that is nothing.
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Thanks!
Other question in the same vein:
I have a rooted n10, but I changed the kernel. Will I have to revert to update?
Probably yes, but worth a shot first, atthe kernel question. I'm just going to wait utnil a AOKP KLP comes out, myself.
About Key Lime Pie I read somewhere that KLP will ne only available on quad core devices..
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When you are rooted there is no point to updating to a new Android version via OTA. You simply go from the ROM you are on, to installing a new version of the same ROM based on the new Android version. Developers like to keep their ROM updated, so usually you will see all the most popular ROMs updated to the latest and greatest version of Android within a day.
If you try to do OTA then you usually lose root, you often have to re-lock your bootloader, you have ton verify you are on the stock rom AND kernel, and then still hope you are "stock enough" to have the update be successful. That is just way too much work and not worth it at all when the alternative is to just flash a new version of a ROM and be done with it.
EniGmA1987 said:
When you are rooted there is no point to updating to a new Android version via OTA. You simply go from the ROM you are on, to installing a new version of the same ROM based on the new Android version. Developers like to keep their ROM updated, so usually you will see all the most popular ROMs updated to the latest and greatest version of Android within a day.
If you try to do OTA then you usually lose root, you often have to re-lock your bootloader, you have ton verify you are on the stock rom AND kernel, and then still hope you are "stock enough" to have the update be successful. That is just way too much work and not worth it at all when the alternative is to just flash a new version of a ROM and be done with it.
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It depends if you are stock rooted or on a custom rom...
If you are stock rooted but have Twrp you could do the OTA reboot to recovery and root checker will install super SU for you
If you don't have Twrp... Nexus devices are easy to root anyways
Or use an OTA root keeper app
I could only find the dev ones, could someone provide me a link? And dont say USE THE SEARCH cause i already did and may have missed it.
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There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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failly said:
There is no original 4.4 rom for the N4.
It will be available in the coming weeks.
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Short and sweet, we need more people like you
Yes we do, but welcome to the world xDD
on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
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on top of everything, these 4.4 roms arent the full roms. they are all hybrids using files from 4.3 to work. the binaries havent been released yet, so there isnt a true 4.4 rom for the nexus 5 yet. only when they get released will we have true 4.4 roms.
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Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
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Just a small newbie question, suppose, god forbids, one day Google stops updating Nexus 4 just like they have done to Galaxy Nexus, flashing then latest Android ROMs will also be considered as half-backed ROMs since binaries would also not be released?
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well, i wouldnt say half baked, but yea. but the galaxy nexus has a special circumstance, texas instruments discontinued maling the processors and are not providing any kind of support for it anymore. no binaries from ti, no galaxy nexus support.
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I have an AT&T LG G2. On my previous phone, after I accepted the OTA for 4.1.x to 4.3 on a Galaxy S3, it was a nightmare. I couldn't get su to run, and I got all kinds of security errors (apparently from KNOX), and not just for superuser. Even though I read several threads about it, I never was sure if it was 4.3 at fault -- which does seem to have some issues per Chaintech -- or if it was Samsung's KNOX, or both. So I certainly want to do my homework before I do that on my new LG.
Which is asking at least these questions:
Should I bother updating from 4.2.2 to 4.3 on the G2?
(I've read the technical differences, which seem to be incremental. I just want opinions here. For example, things like the new Camera UI may be irrelevant considering LG's customizations already in place with 4.2.2.)
If it isworth upgrading, will it retain root with an OTA? If it doesn't, what is the best way to go about restoring it in 4.3?
This firmware is probably the first I've ever seen, and that's a lot since first adopting the original T-Mobile G1, where I didn't want to replace the ROM. It's that slick. For now, I just need root and a custom recovery.
TIA.
Stay away until official release by att or lg
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lingarajug said:
Stay away until official release by att or lg
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Well, I'm not sure how much more official the Over-The-Air update from AT&T could be.
By the way there is no official 4.3 for g2 yet.
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lingarajug said:
By the way there is no official 4.3 for g2 yet.
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Hmm, this seems to be the case, now I'm reading they may skip over 4.3 completely. This update it's offering to install is a bug fix and remains at 4.2.2. It's like 57MB, so I assumed it would be 4.3 as my Galaxy SIII got that a while back (and blew up, hence this whole thread).
I'll probably wait until KitKat comes out, then. I really like the LG ROM, and I just wanted root for backups, ad blocking, etc. I've run CyanogenMod since back when it was called JesusFreke, but then I'd have to reinstall everything and all that jazz. Question is, can I wait until Q1 2014.