Although the Galaxy SIV will come with several storage options, again in the UK carriers will only be subsidizing the 16GB model and I am wondering if large HD games (Nova, Modern Combat etc.) will install to Micro SD to save space?
I remember reading that since Honeycomb apps such as App2SD are obsolete due to combined memory but I still haven't read that apps easily install to the Micro SD card. So can you?
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I recommend checking this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thankyou, that is one solution but I'm wondering if their is 'official' support for installing apps to Micro SD.
Since Android 4.0 & above can't install app on micro sd anymore
You don't know about it ?
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No! Can large apps/games such as Nova install the game data to the micro sd or does that no longer happen as well?
Jaken326 said:
No! Can large apps/games such as Nova install the game data to the micro sd or does that no longer happen as well?
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no, android no longer officially supports it unfortunately :/
Jaken326 said:
Although the Galaxy SIV will come with several storage options, again in the UK carriers will only be subsidizing the 16GB model and I am wondering if large HD games (Nova, Modern Combat etc.) will install to Micro SD to save space?
I remember reading that since Honeycomb apps such as App2SD are obsolete due to combined memory but I still haven't read that apps easily install to the Micro SD card. So can you?
Thankyou
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U can Root and install custom ROM that support app2SD
Or root and use an app that merge internal & external memory.
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That's a shame, in the UK that's one more thing the One has going for it.
Thankyou for the quick replies!
Jaken326 said:
That's a shame, in the UK that's one more thing the One has going for it.
Thankyou for the quick replies!
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the One can't do it either, can it?
No but in the UK the One has 32GB of inbuilt memory and you can only get the Galaxy SIV 16GB subsidized from carriers,
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No but in the UK the One has 32GB of inbuilt memory and you can only get the Galaxy SIV 16GB subsidized from carriers,
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oh, true
I wish the S4 had 32GB already too
that should be the default for all flagships already
The annoying things is that Samsung make a 32GB model, its just that you can only buy it sim-free, which is far more expensive. Now if you could get it with more storage from carriers...
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Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
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Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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It seems the 16gb S4 is still the only option at the moment in the UK, I originally cancelled my order when I found out about the internal memory issue and the fact you can't save apps to the sd card. If you root some of my banking apps won't work, so that is not an option, not that apps work all the time properly on the sd card anyway. Also if you rent films from Googlr these cache in internal memory.
So for all you 16gb owners what is the internal memory space left , what have you installed and how much of an inconvenience is it, if at all. Please be honest, I just want to see what you can get on each of your S4's. Are any of you struggling already or believe you might.
Your help here will make me decide whether I just bite the bullet and compromise with the 16gb. Thanks in advance.
I've been a bit more careful than usual, not installed any of the big storage hog games, disabled Document Sync (which inexplicably tries to fill the internal storage with dropbox content), moved TomTom data to the SD card, and now have about 100 applications installed and 6Gb of space left. Not really a problem for me as yet, I'm using DiskUsage to monitor the situation. I'm also dithering about the One, but at the moment I'd rather have the 9Gb+64Gb SD card than the One's 25Gb. Might change if I have problems later and the One gets a 64Gb variant.
Thanks for feedback. One of my friends has only 2.5gb free now and hasn't installed any of his fav games. No room if he tried.
Anybody else got feedback.
it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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fade2green514 said:
it's kind of dumb that it has this amazing quad core processor and one of the best phone gpu's around and yet, you cant even install all the best games on it... lol
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Just give it a week or 2 and you will have some nice xda devs throwing solutions at us
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Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
how to disable document sync?
DocumentSync is solved see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261385
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Rooting isn't the cure. I know for a fact that some of the banking apps won't work with a rooted device. Also, internal memory functions better so don't mind all apps being there but really need a bigger memory to start off with.
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get the one ...
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get the one ...
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I have but I want a S4 as well but one that is sufficient
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Markuzy said:
I think a potential cure will be for android itself to have a proper api to utilize external SD for heavy resources like those in the obb folder.
Unfortunately I don't think google will support this since they have been on a no SD card agenda for quite a while now.
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We might see something because of that Google edition s4...
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I am managing quite well, this is with around a 100 different apps, varying in size. With Spotify playlist download of a 100 songs. I will be happy when Samsung will fix this issue.
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For me the 9Gb of storage is enough i don't generally game on my phone, and only install what i use, music, vids & pictures all go onto my SD card.
But i think the S4 should have launched at 32Gb this time around, back in the day the S1 launched with 8Gb, when the S2 came it was bumped upto 16Gb at launch
I think the easiest option really would be for Samsung to come up with a way to allow you to save apps to SD card, even though Jellybean doesn't have this feature.
I do think though when the S5 arrives next year 32Gb will be standard, with options of 64Gb & 128Gb to.
I don't have any problems... Lots of apps and a few games installed... Batman, GTA, mini motor... I don't have much time to play but nice with the opportunity
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Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
Swyped from another galaxy
skivnit said:
Very well as I installed foldermount and folder downloader so Dropbox and games are stored in the external so got plenty of space left for apps. Also INT2EXT will be fixed soon for the s4
Swyped from another galaxy
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Agree! FolderMount is great for this phone.
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Doesn't bother me at all as I don't game on my phone. If you're a gamer then it might sting a little but apart from that music is via google play and photos in the 32 gig SD card
I store my ROM and app backups on my external SD (32 GB G-Skill class 6).
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
rosse912003 said:
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
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Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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Great news!! Hopefully these trail blazers will have good luck in their coding.
rosse912003 said:
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
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No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
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Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
rosse912003 said:
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
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Indeed, I can understand that you'd feel cheated
Hopefully they release the 32GB soon and maybe you can replace yours with the 32GB version.
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
The foldermount app should work now on the galaxy s4! Go to his xda topic where you can get the latest version! Yay
You also have to reinstall apps if you want to update them, since the app will not be scripted to support the bind when installing.
Mykew said:
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
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I don't get a move button when I try ... do I need to do something up front?
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that s great but is there a way to exchange the whole sdcard into the extsdcard ??? not just mounting specific folders
Does anyone know when samsung will release the 64GB version of the Note 4?
They won't they never do
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i would like to know this too
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Does anyone know when samsung will release the 64GB version of the Note 4?
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Seeing as Samsung didn't mention a 64GB version during the official Note 4 announcement, I doubt there will be one any time soon, if ever.
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WyldeStile said:
Seeing as Samsung didn't mention a 64GB version during the official Note 4 announcement, I doubt there will be one any time soon, if ever.
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Samsung released an infographic where it said there will be 32GB and 64GB versions of the phone .
Need 64 GB
WyldeStile said:
Seeing as Samsung didn't mention a 64GB version during the official Note 4 announcement, I doubt there will be one any time soon, if ever.
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I can wait, I love fast memory. I already have a 32GB phone , and its not cutting it .
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skivnit said:
They won't they never do
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As far as I know there was a Note 3 64GB released .
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ilordvader said:
i would like to know this too
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Let me know if you find anything , I have googled it nothing much . Found an Infographic Stating there are two storage options 32/64 GB
Get you a good microsd card, I just got a 128 gb SanDisk microsd card...the latest versionm..it's very fast with reads and writes
Not sure why there would be a need for 64gb internal storage option when sd card can expand to 128gb as well as the fact most people have free cloud storage of many gig as well
only 24GB
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Not sure why there would be a need for 64gb internal storage option when sd card can expand to 128gb as well as the fact most people have free cloud storage of many gig as well
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The actual free space is 24GB and that's not enough for all the game apps I have .
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jamesrick80 said:
Get you a good microsd card, I just got a 128 gb SanDisk microsd card...the latest versionm..it's very fast with reads and writes
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As far as I know you can't move apps to SD card
That`s the reason I didnt buy yet Note 4. The internal storage is too little for this flagship.
No one`s know if will be in the next 2-3 months a 64GB ?? More I cannot wait.
The 64gig models are usually very rare because Samsung takes its sweet time to release them and when they do, its in very little quantity. If you are desperate to load 10+ huge games on your device, just move everything else to the microSD and commit your internal just for these apps. 32GB is enough really...
Maybe for you, the internal storage is used better for 4k recording, with microSD it lags sometimes (or when I modify [they are some hacks already] the bitrate to higher I dont want to think what can happen to a microSD)
Hi
Does anyone know if you can transfer apps to the sd card? Can't decide whether to wait for a 32gb version or get the 16gb one which seems much more available right now.
Thanks
Spencer
spencer_uk said:
Hi
Does anyone know if you can transfer apps to the sd card? Can't decide whether to wait for a 32gb version or get the 16gb one which seems much more available right now.
Thanks
Spencer
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Sadly you can't. It would only be possible if rooted. That's the only thing about the tablet I don't like
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Gosh. Just as I had not hoped. Hmmmmm. .... now need to make the choice between the 3g or the nexus 9... I just quite like the remote play feature
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Gosh. Just as I had not hoped. Hmmmmm. .... now need to make the choice between the 3g or the nexus 9... I just quite like the remote play feature
I got this tablet because of the remote play features and waterproof and more portable, I got the 16gb LTE version and am planing to root as soon as i find a way to do so i can move my apps to sd card using foldermount
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Lollipop bring back the sd-card support to android!
so no need to worry about 16gb version.
Just insert 128gb micro sd and you are sorted
as far as I know kitkat won't let you unless you are rooted and with exposed madule it's possible otherwise no..