EDIT: Similar topic already being discussed. Please direct further discussion to Desire Z vs. Desire HD. Thank You. ~TheRomMistress
Hi
Can any one tell me which device is faster
HTC Desire Z or HTC Desire HD
and if want one of them which one you will take
Desire HD has 1 ghz and Desire Z/Vision have 800 mhz soooo figure it out on ur own
Sent from my HTC Espresso, that is apperantly a failing device using the XDA App
the desire hd is the fastest android phone now. the desire z might be faster than the current nexus and desire due to the newer design even though clock speed is slower.
the z is an underclocked hd
that should be all the info u need
Well actually Desire HD is running with a MSM8255, and Z with a MSM7230. Both 45nm, so power usage should be considerably down from last gen, but I haven't seen any real benchmarks to compare the chips yet. We can probably assume HD will be faster in every regard; that's what it's supposed to be. (I'm still getting a Z! )
i wouldnt count on it being faster in every regard, different resolution remember, higher=more stress on graphics. they prob about the same if anything
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
You are wrong, MiTMaNeK; both MSM8255 and MSM7230 are 2nd gen chipsets. I can't post a link but look it up on qualcomm's site.
They're the same except for clock speed.
MiTMaNeK said:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
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Great summary, one m ore question:
Normal Desire has Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor and Desire HD QSD8255 cpu, which means it is newer?
So maybe Desire HD has 45nm die shrink and better GPU like Desire Z?
Mine question is, does Desire Z has faster GPU than normal Desire(I am planing to move to Desire Z, I simply love it's keyboard) and does it uses less power than normal Desire(45nm vs 65nm ?)
Having looked at the various spec sheets out there (including the list of devices using the MSM8255 and the MSM7230) it looks like the HD and Z both have a 2nd gen 45nm based CPU both with the same adreno 205 GPU. Its essentially a tie between the two I would summise since one device's pros outweigh the other's cons and vice versa.
Personnaly Im not bothered about having an 8MP camera since I would prefer a hardware qwerty keyboard, the two devices are both good however I prefer the Z.
The only difference, according to qualcomms website, is the additional 3D acceleration bits in the Z (highlighted in bold), which is encouraging
The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.
* Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
* Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
o MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
o MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)
* High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware
* High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support
* 12-megapixel camera support
* Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
* Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
* Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
* Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
* Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
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The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™.
* Scorpion 800 MHz CPU
* Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
o MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
o MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
* High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
* High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
* 12-megapixel camera support
* Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
* Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
* Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
* Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
* Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
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Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Ok, and normal Desire has 65nm CPU and old GPU?
And about the camera, I don't need 8MP at all, pics are only bigger with more MP(and has more noise) I would prefer 5MP cam with less noise.
MiTMaNeK said:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
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I posted a reply on this yesterday evening, but I guess it went lost in the downtime. I made a nice quote with information, but now I'm too lazy to do it again.
You are making the mistake of thinking the DHD has a first generation snapdragon (the QSD8255, wich doesn't excist, actually it's the QSD8250). This is not true, it has the second generation Scorpion (MSM8255) as well as the Desire Z has. Only difference is speed it's running on.
So basically, the Desire HD is (on paper) faster then the Desire Z. The question ofcourse is how the extra 200 MHz wil turn out in extra performance.
Found Quadrant scores on Desire HD and Desire Z on smartphonebenchmarks.com
Desire HD Quadrant score 1974
Desire Z(HTC G2/Desire Z) Quadrant score 1499
CeasarRAPH100 said:
Found Quadrant scores on Desire HD and Desire Z on smartphonebenchmarks.com
Desire HD Quadrant score 1974
Desire Z(HTC G2/Desire Z) Quadrant score 1499
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and what does this number say?
I see the oc'd Desire gets around 1880 and a custom rom galaxy S gets 2250
but does that mean it's fast?
I think I read about 8255 that it has more L2 cache than 7xxx series ... but any ways both are A8 Gen so I just wait for A9 tegra
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mrvanx said:
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
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That wikipedia link is not correct: it puts the Desire HD & Z in the 1st gen row.
This is the correct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor) (dunno why it does that )
It does show that they both use the Adreno 205 GPU, which makes them nearly as fast (but not faster) as the Galaxy S GPU (Adreno 205 => expected 3x the speed of Adreno 200/N1/Desire).
Guys,
Actually i agree with mrvanx. A game running 3D needs acceleration engines for OpenGL. Here the Desire HD is not high performance GPU, but desire Z is
"High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration"
Its pretty upset tho, prefer a touch screen 4.3" to play ps1 + android! sigh..
The Desire HD should be the quicker device, but the Desire Z is the sexier device, and is definatly the one im spending my hard earned on.
DHD will be faster than the "Z" because of 200mhz more + 256mb more for multitasking, The "Z" will be more off a battery efficient device, with a little bigger battery, smaller screen + slower processor. i'm waiting for the reviews on both devices to make a decision, can't make up my mind!!
Mafiatounes said:
DHD will be faster than the "Z" because of 200mhz more + 256mb more for multitasking, The "Z" will be more off a battery efficient device, with a little bigger battery, smaller screen + slower processor. i'm waiting for the reviews on both devices to make a decision, can't make up my mind!!
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I think the thing that really decides for people, is the screen and the keyboard... If you want a bigger screen, then you go for the desire hd. If you want the keyboard, then the desire z... If you want both, then tough luck... hehe. But, I personally am going for the z, because I need the keyboard... And, after being used to the touch pro 2, I think that I will be pleased with the z anyway hehe
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# NVIDIA Shield TV
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Storage:
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I just recently purchased the Minix Neo U1. I heard so many amazing things about this box. The first thing I did was upgraded the firmware. That was my first mistake. I should of researched it first as some have reported bugs. I've had a lot of problems with Kodi and XMBC crashing a LOT. I mean 20 plus times each! Plus when poking around to see it's options, it freezes up. Even just checking out the apps section it crashes. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the firmware update but... eh. I'm going to keep playing with it this weekend to see if I can keep the box stable. Right now, I'm not a fan of this box. But that's not to say I will change my mind if I can fix the issues. Sorry to be so wishy washy on this box but..... OH, I added that same wireless mouse and keyboard to it and it froze a lot too. Had to keep unplugging it to reset it.
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G'day guys!
Has anyone read any reseach or articles regarding AMLogic and RockChip-based Android device differences (i.e. benefits and limitations)?? Apart from the same obvious information repeated and regurgitated thousands of times of other sites (hexa core, big little, blah), what are the real-world benefits / disadvantages of RockChip RK33xx devices?
For example, I just learned that RockChip (even RK3399 / RK3368) does not support HDR?
So I felt a topic should be created, to identify a clear and concise answer so it can be added to the topic FAQ or some Topic sticky.
So I hope an RK veteran could answer some questions, or atleast point to a relatively recent article, already covering this information on a deep-ish level:
What does not having 'HDR' support mean for a media centre device? What can't I do?
Where will not having 'HDR' affect/restrict my use of a multimedia TV box?
When is it best to avoid RockChip and return to AMLogic devices?
How can I plan to avoid experiencing issues with this lack of HDR support?
Thanks for your time and Cheers! :good:
There are so many items for sale on eBay that state they support "HDR", "HDR10", ...
What the hell!!! Maybe it was just RK32xx devices, as there are too many if this sh!tty old reviews around!
Looking at the devices with a minimum spec of:
? 3+ USB 2.0, 3.0 & OTG Ports (Optional: USB-C/Type-C, USB 3.1).
? HDMI 2.0 4K UHD 60fps HDCP 2.2 Video/Audio.
? AV Port - AKA 3.5mmm Audio & CVBS Video/Audio (red, white, yellow RCA's).
? SPDIF/TosLink/Fibre HD Audio.
? Gigabit LAN Ethernet.
? Wi-Fi B/G/N/AC & Bluetooth (BT) 4.0-4.1.
? TF Adapter - AKA a Micro SD Card Slot (Trans-Flash Memory).
DDR3 RK3399 models:
* CloudNetgo CR19 at $199 AUD (4GB DDR3, 4x USB (Type-C), BT 4.0, e-SATA, 3.5mm MIC, 3.5mm Headphones, External antenna, ...)
* R-TV X99 -or- K99 Max at $170 AUD (4GB LPDDR3, 3x USB (Type-C), BT 4.1, ...)
* H96 Max at $189 AUD (4GB LPDDR3, 3x USB (Type-C), BT 4.0, ...)
Then DDR4 S912 models:
* Beelink GT1 at $100 AUD (3GB DDR4, 3x USB, BT 4., ...)
* R-TV S10 at $100 AUD (3GB DDR4, 4x USB, BT 4.1, ...)
* Tanix TX8 Max at $100 AUD (3GB DDR4, 2x USB, BT 4.0, ...)
Have I missed any other models with RK3399 Hexa-core (6 core) CPU and 4GB DDR3 or 3GB DDR4?