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2gb sd ext?!

So, I recently received my replacement and immediately got it rooted. Since I have tons of apps, I rely on transfering some apps to my SD to get me by. I read that EXT3 would be more appropriate for Myn's 2.2, so I formatted my SD EXT with 0MB swap size and 2GB space with the EXT3 format. Everything seems to have worked fine. I use 'App 2 SD Pro' to notify me of apps that are capable of transferring over and it still shows that I have 22.7GB available on my SD Card. Shouldn't it limit it to the 2GB I dedicated?

There are different kinds of apps2sd. There's the old way, where you format part of your SD card to ext2/3/4 and you have symlinks from your /data/apps directory to that partition. Then there's the new way, where Google let's you put your apps on the FAT32 partition (normal) of your SD card in the .android_secure folder.
If you're doing it with Android's built-in apps2sd functionality, then you don't need to partition your card for ext2/3/4 to put your apps on your SD card.

I run a 500mb ext4 partition, I am using dark tremors a2sd. I use a2sd from the market and it also tells me how much free space is left on the whole SD instead of how much free space is left on the ext partition.
Here's what mine looks like.
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sultan.of.swing said:
I run a 500mb ext4 partition, I am using dark tremors a2sd. I use a2sd from the market and it also tells me how much free space is left on the whole SD instead of how much free space is left on the ext partition.
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In your first pic, you have a2sd+, 384 of 457 available... That's your ext partition, no???
Edit: Bold quoted text... Still confused...

gpz1100 said:
In your first pic, you have a2sd+, 384 of 457 available... That's your ext partition, no???
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Correct. That's the ext partition.

its just the space on the extened partion of the memory.

What's the difference between using Dark Tremor's and Google's built-in? I'm on Myn's 2.2 btw.

Also, how do I get the remaining A2SD+ ext space I have? Can't find it anywhere.

sultan.of.swing said:
Correct. That's the ext partition.
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I don't understand?? Edit, disregard. I think your pic is showing the contents of both partitions individually.
@akarol, a little searching goes A LONG way. All your questions are answered in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938

Well, ok... that clarifies things a bit. However, I seem to not even know which version I am currently using. I am running Myn's 2.2 RLS 5 atm which I think might just use Froyo's method. For example, App 2 SD Pro guides me to the Manage Application screen for that specific app to move to/from SD. Does this mean I am using Froyo's method? If I am, then I don't need any EXT on my SD card right? If so, how do I remove it in Amon RA's recovery and will I need to wipe my ROM and start from scratch?

akarol said:
Well, ok... that clarifies things a bit. However, I seem to not even know which version I am currently using. I am running Myn's 2.2 RLS 5 atm which I think might just use Froyo's method. For example, App 2 SD Pro guides me to the Manage Application screen for that specific app to move to/from SD. Does this mean I am using Froyo's method? If I am, then I don't need any EXT on my SD card right? If so, how do I remove it in Amon RA's recovery and will I need to wipe my ROM and start from scratch?
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I am not familiar with Myn's roms, but a quick look at the main thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471), seven bullets down from "Some of the features in RLS 5 (01-07-2011) include:", it clearly says, "Updated Darktremor Apps2SD (2.7.5.2)".
Then, in post #3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8341836&postcount=3), in the FAQ section, there's a link to more info on the apps2sd function.
Personally, I think the write up in the DT thread is more than sufficient at explaining what it is, and how to set it up. What you are probably missing is that by having DT installed, your apps are automatically installed to the ext partition, transparent to the system. If, you now use the move2sd function in settings/applications, you are in essence, moving them from the ext3 partition (on the sd card) to the main partition (also on the sd card). I see little benefit to do this. Either use one method or the other.
This brings up the point, that with the DT method, even apps that traditionally can not reside on the SD card can do so (usually) without issue. I forget the criteria for being able to be moved, but suspect it has something to do with the fact that the main /sdcard partition can be unmounted from the system's view when connected via usb. DT's method secures the ext partition from such actions.

gpz1100 said:
I am not familiar with Myn's roms, but a quick look at the main thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471), seven bullets down from "Some of the features in RLS 5 (01-07-2011) include:", it clearly says, "Updated Darktremor Apps2SD (2.7.5.2)".
Then, in post #3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8341836&postcount=3), in the FAQ section, there's a link to more info on the apps2sd function.
Personally, I think the write up in the DT thread is more than sufficient at explaining what it is, and how to set it up. What you are probably missing is that by having DT installed, your apps are automatically installed to the ext partition, transparent to the system. If, you now use the move2sd function in settings/applications, you are in essence, moving them from the ext3 partition (on the sd card) to the main partition (also on the sd card). I see little benefit to do this. Either use one method or the other.
This brings up the point, that with the DT method, even apps that traditionally can not reside on the SD card can do so (usually) without issue. I forget the criteria for being able to be moved, but suspect it has something to do with the fact that the main /sdcard partition can be unmounted from the system's view when connected via usb. DT's method secures the ext partition from such actions.
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Wow, thanks! I customized my a2sd settings as instructured in post #3. However, I still cannot verify that my apps are placed on the EXT partition or in the main partition of the SD card. Any way to do this?

How can I do a REAL format of the tablet?

So I have installed a good amount of ROM flashes that have you do a format of delete all cache.. blah blah you know the story. There are still files left over from previously installed apps. I think actually running a format on this would be a big problem, but is there anything I can do to truely get rid of everything that was not originally part of the setup before I flash again? After my latest flash, it looked like I was using almost 16Gigs of my internal SD card. Kind of surprised at that.

you may try this.. i copy from civato's post.
go to in recovery enter "Backup and Restore" and click on "Toggle backup and restore of internal storage (/data/media)"
should say enabled....
then go into "Mounts and Storage" and "format /data"
this will REALLY format data and you will loose all you have in the in the internal memory

Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.

YeeP said:
Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.
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The above steps only format Internal SD Card. Not Ext SD Card. Many apps keep info on Ext SD. There is an option to format Ext Sd Card, however, unless you really wish this, I would advise against it, unless you really want to clean everything. This includes all recovery backups. Most people, pull the card, copy their recovery folder and format from PC. Just to have backups.
You should understand the partitioning structure in android before messing with advanced features in CWM though.
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I appreciate your insight. I will take a screen shot of what I am talking about and post it here to be more clear.
Thank you.

Steps I followed from civato:
civato said:
If you got problems please before posting them do the following.
Performe a REAL format....
here's how to on cwm:
go to in recovery enter "Backup and Restore" and click on "Toggle backup and restore of internal storage (/data/media)"
should say enabled....
then go into "Mounts and Storage" and "format /data"
this will REALLY format data and you will loose all you have in the in the internal memory
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Here are some screen shots that should explain what I am seeing. The highlighted folder names are apps that I previously had installed, before the recommended format, and are no longer installed.
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
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Based on those images, hopefully you will see that there is still data on the internal SD, that I would think should be gone after a true format of the machine.

YeeP said:
Thanks, and I definitely tried that already. Instead of restoring some of my apps (winamp in particular) I downloaded them. The app immediately found my music files, which I did have to set it up previously to know they where on the external sd card. Also, a quick scan of the file structure, and I see .XXX folders that have names of apps that are no longer installed on this tablet.
I would have to say that this format was not a truely complete format, but please tell me I am wrong or did something wrong. I would love to get rid of all this junk and start over fresh.
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boot into fastboot and use this command 'fastboot erase userdata' that should do what u want
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dibb_nz said:
boot into fastboot and use this command 'fastboot erase userdata' that should do what u want
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That would be in the process preparing to flash a new rom, correct? I am guessing this because it sounds like that will erase the data I also wish to have on the tablet.

[Q] Low internal storage: MIUI (2.3.7)

I flashed my HD2 with MIUI 2.3.7 some time ago, but now I'm constantly getting low internal storage errors. One thing I didn't do when I flashed this ROM was repartition the SD card (and I think this ROM has A2SD built in?). So I know that might probably help getting rid of the errors.
But when I checked the phone's internal memory, I saw "200 MB used - 18 MB free". So that's a total of 218MB internal memory? I'm pretty sure I'm missing at least 200Mb there.
I have another HD2 here (running AmeriCanAndroid from SD) so I checked its internal memory under "About Phone". On the HD2 with ACA, it says it has a total of 411MB internal memory. On the HD2 with MIUI, it says it has a total internal memory of 217MB. So where's the missing 194MB?
I read somewhere that the phone probably has a wrong "ClockworkMod Recovery partition layout" and that for MIUI, it needs a "150MB Partition Layout". The article didn't actually explain what those things are or how to set it up.
So, is that indeed what's going on here (any way to check)? And if so, how can I change my phone to this "150MB Partition Layout?"
Thanks in advance.

Like I said, it was quite a while ago when I flashed this ROM so I can't remember what I did when I did. But looking at my HD2 folder on my PC, I probably *did* use a 150MB ClockWorkMod recovery partition size. Also, I *did* create a 1GB ext partition on my SD Card for A2SD.
So why am I getting the "low internal storage" errors?

Many possibilities, could be the ext partition not being recognized, not in proper format...
The script may not be working (?). And you're never going to get the whole 512MB of your ROM. I think it's maximum 400, give or take. so about 400 - 150 you're left with about 250 .. I don't know where that 50 went (maybe it is not actually 400? or maybe you set a slightly larger partition).
I also never believed in a2sd, always datatoext. Your best bet is to back up your apps using titanium (or similar apps), check the partitions, and reflash ROM + a different script; that is because you can't flash a script while having been used the rom. (or you can try your luck).
dat english.

I second that, app2sd is not reliable to get more memory available.
Lack of internal storage is due to a incorrect system partition. It has nothing to do with your ext4 partition, since you're not running NativeSD.
DataOnEXT is your best option. Backup your app data and flash a ROM from start with DataOnExt option.
Be sure to make your system size large enough.
Create an ext4 partition on your sd of 1 to 2 GB for app storage.
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You should use Cronmod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716124 INT2EXT+ is recommended
Flash your rom on nand (without dataonext) then flash Cronmod(you must have ext4 partition, 1gb is good)
On clk 1.5 you can easily change partition sizes without computer

Marvlesz said:
Many possibilities, could be the ext partition not being recognized, not in proper format...
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This is what A2SD reports:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So it looks like it's being recognized just fine...

Zippy1970 said:
This is what A2SD reports:
So it looks like it's being recognized just fine...
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Yes, it is. But the script you're using is useless. Use DataOnExt instead.
WARNING: You need to do a fresh install, so make a backup beforehand.

I tried DataOnExt and I can't get it to work. It keeps giving me force close errors on almost every app/widget and when I reboot my phone, all my widgets loose their settings.

Zippy1970 said:
I tried DataOnExt and I can't get it to work. It keeps giving me force close errors on almost every app/widget and when I reboot my phone, all my widgets loose their settings.
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Try a different ROM, and increase your /system size to 285MB or 300-350MB if you have badblocks.

Zippy1970 said:
I tried DataOnExt and I can't get it to work. It keeps giving me force close errors on almost every app/widget and when I reboot my phone, all my widgets loose their settings.
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You can't dirty flash it, you need a fresh install. If you do a dirty one, everything will force close.

Have you considered using NativeSD?

mengfei said:
Have you considered using NativeSD?
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I second this, NativeSD can be great.
The only few cons I know of, is that NAND is a tad bit more responsive (even with highclass SD cards), battery life is shorter than if you only were to use NAND and your SD card will wear out quicker.
Other than that, it's basically superious to NAND.

DataOnExt?

Sorry, i searched it in xda and google but i couldn't find. What is dataonext? How can i do this?

DoubleT34 said:
Sorry, i searched it in xda and google but i couldn't find. What is dataonext? How can i do this?
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DataonExt is basically using a partition of your sd-card( called the ext partition) to store stuff. This ext partition acts as your phone's internal memory, so when we run into low internal memory situation, after installing apps etc, dataonext usually saves the day.
You need 2 things to use this feature
A. An ext partition on your sd card
B. A script that mounts that ext partition as internal memory
A )
This can be done my using the minitool partition wizard or the CWM recovery.
In CWM menu, go to advanced>partition sd card. Select the partition size you want, keep swap to 0. Most GB roms dont need swap. And thats it, the ext partition is created
WARNING!!
Along with creating an ext partition, YOUR SD CARD WILL BE WIPED. MAKE BACKUPS
B) You need an A2SD script, Most A2SD roms already have this script so when u install the rom, after partitioning, the ext partition is automatically mounted. If you want another script, check my signature

DoubleT34 said:
Sorry, i searched it in xda and google but i couldn't find. What is dataonext? How can i do this?
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
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This was the first thing that came up on google.
So you mean to tell me you have searched google AND xda and you couldn't find an answer? Seems legit.
You're lucky for having people like adil answering your question first.

Marvlesz said:
This was the first thing that came up on google.
So you mean to tell me you have searched google AND xda and you couldn't find an answer? Seems legit.
You're lucky for having people like adil answering your question first.
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I found it, but isn't it about native? and native is different from nand? am i right?

adil1508 said:
DataonExt is basically using a partition of your sd-card( called the ext partition) to store stuff. This ext partition acts as your phone's internal memory, so when we run into low internal memory situation, after installing apps etc, dataonext usually saves the day.
You need 2 things to use this feature
A. An ext partition on your sd card
B. A script that mounts that ext partition as internal memory
A )
This can be done my using the minitool partition wizard or the CWM recovery.
In CWM menu, go to advanced>partition sd card. Select the partition size you want, keep swap to 0. Most GB roms dont need swap. And thats it, the ext partition is created
WARNING!!
Along with creating an ext partition, YOUR SD CARD WILL BE WIPED. MAKE BACKUPS
B) You need an A2SD script, Most A2SD roms already have this script so when u install the rom, after partitioning, the ext partition is automatically mounted. If you want another script, check my signature
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Thanks for reply. is it ext3 or ext4 for hd2? and i will mount it "/data" or "/" or no mount? and what about cluster size? And i will use jb rom so i need swap? Thanks.

DoubleT34 said:
I found it, but isn't it about native? and native is different from nand? am i right?
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It did not say "NativeSD", it said "Native". He is using "Native" here as an English word, not a method of booting android.
In fact, if you had clicked on that and gone further you'd have realized what I mean.
Tip: Next time when you search something, you need to go INTO the things you find, not just read their titles.
And btw, it should be ext4 and don't worry about the cluster size, default is fine.

Marvlesz said:
It did not say "NativeSD", it said "Native". He is using "Native" here as an English word, not a method of booting android.
In fact, if you had clicked on that and gone further you'd have realized what I mean.
Tip: Next time when you search something, you need to go INTO the things you find, not just read their titles.
And btw, it should be ext4 and don't worry about the cluster size, default is fine.
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Sorry i'm from Turkey and my English is not very well. Thread wasn't basic English. So i can't understand everything everytime, it's my bad. Thanks for reply.

DoubleT34 said:
Thanks for reply. is it ext3 or ext4 for hd2? and i will mount it "/data" or "/" or no mount? and what about cluster size? And i will use jb rom so i need swap? Thanks.
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To basically just use the ext partition as internal memory, any ext type can be used. The CWM makes a ext3. You need the ext4 partition for NativeSD roms. Thats a WHOLE different thing. And when u use a default rom with A2SD support, you dont need to mount anything, anything that needs to be mounted, IS mounted.
For swap, check the rom thread, it should be there.

Increase internal memory

Hello,
Is it possible to further.increase internal memory.
I have made link2sd, but want to increase more. Attach is my current memory status.
{
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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}
I want.to take 100mb from system and 50mb rom cache.
Plz guide me, thanks.
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bilal1947 said:
Hello,
Is it possible to further.increase internal memory.
I have made link2sd, but want to increase more. Attach is my current memory status.
I want.to take 100mb from system and 50mb rom cache.
Plz guide me, thanks.
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It's impossible exept if you delete system media like ringtone.
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after intstalling all my installed user apps, ie., 46 in numbers, i am left with 180mb free internal memory
I tried mtd partitioning and got more space but not sure as what exactly happened, as something weird has happened.
A) changed system partition size from 250 to 150, means 100mb here release.
B) changed cache partition size from 175 to 75mb, means 100mb here release.
C) i should get this 200mb as free in data partition apart from what free internal memory which is 90mb that i already have & all i got is 180 that means, an increse of 90mb only so where the rest of the space gone?
Anyhow, i am happy, how much total internal memory does Wildfire show and how much do you guys left with after installing all the apps?
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bilal1947 said:
after intstalling all my installed user apps, ie., 46 in numbers, i am left with 180mb free internal memory
I tried mtd partitioning and got more space but not sure as what exactly happened, as something weird has happened.
A) changed system partition size from 250 to 150, means 100mb here release.
B) changed cache partition size from 175 to 75mb, means 100mb here release.
C) i should get this 200mb as free in data partition apart from what free internal memory which is 90mb that i already have & all i got is 180 that means, an increse of 90mb only so where the rest of the space gone?
Anyhow, i am happy, how much total internal memory does Wildfire show and how much do you guys left with after installing all the apps?
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Default cache size is around 50mb,75mb is wayy to much.
I always have 10mb for cache.
Fir cm7,i recommend 140 10 mtd values.

What's going on? As u suggest i made system partition to 140 and cache partition 25, and see.what it does, 300mb cache.
And how come its using 75mb?
What i do now to get this cache to internal memory?, though free internal memory after all my apps is 220mb. That's enough.
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Most probably link2sd is showing it wrong. As i can see it is showing right values, i.e 300 mb internal memory.
So download some app called freespace from play store and check with it.
And you can never have 140 system+300 data+300 cache in 512mb ROM.

You are right.
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internal memory issues
Please help me!!
I have erased all phone data, set it back to factory data, wiped dalvik cache, data and EVERYTHING possible!! My phone is like new.
But it still says the avaiable space is 98.30MB!!!
Why is that and what can do??

t2oll said:
Please help me!!
I have erased all phone data, set it back to factory data, wiped dalvik cache, data and EVERYTHING possible!! My phone is like new.
But it still says the avaiable space is 98.30MB!!!
Why is that and what can do??
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Two ways to increase:
No.1 Link2sd - via making partition of you sd card
Watch this video and you can do it, its easiest way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxFizGRdYeM
No.2 re-partitioning of the original system & cache partition to its required size and automatically you will get the freed space for internal memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
Must read this thread if lost, its a complete index related to wildfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318

Thank you very much!
I installed Storage Analyser and it shows I have 66MB of dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) and 29MB em data/data but then when I go to these folders using ES File Explorer, thee folders is 'empty'.
I will read the links you sent me and I hope it helps.

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