[Q] [Q} Can't make a backup from recovery (nandroid?) - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm a noob at this and it's ages since I messed with my Defy. I finally moved from CM7 to Paranoid Android
Before I moved from CM7, I tried to make a backup via nandroid in recovery mode. However it didn't work
I risked it anyway and went for Paranoid Android....everything's running smoothly but I'd still like to make a backup in case I see what else is out there. But I'm having the same error:
If I go to recovery to back up ''all'', it manages to get through "backing up system" fine and completes. But whilst about a quarter of the way through "backing up data" it just stops, no matter how long I leave it.... the bottom line has "_ormma_current" flashing as if it's stuck on that part
any advice on what to do?
thanks

Can you try to backup just the data from advanced backup?
Data backup takes about 10mins or more for me. The data backup can 750MB to 1.01~Gig
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i looked in 'advanced' but wasn't sure what I would need... is having a backup of just 'data' enough in case something goes wrong whilst flashing another ROM?

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Clockworkmod vs Titanium?

I've had such great help in these forums (Nook specifically) I couldn't resist trying my luck in these (Droid X) forums as well.
So, I've searched for Clockworkmod threads but they are all (That I found or noticed) from back in August.
Plenty of info to be had on Titanium Backup.
So my question, is Titanium the backup/restore program of choice? I was hoping for an idiots guide to backup and restore (especially in the event of problems) but the guides are kind of sketchy on the restore part.
Titanium
Use titanium backup to backup and restore all your apps. Useful when trying out new roms, although without the paid version of titanium you will spend alot of time tapping through the installation screens as it goes through your apps. Titanium won't help you recover a broken system.
SBF
Use RSDLITE 4.9 with a .SBF file to perform what many call a "sbf". This is usually used to restore a phone back to stock, or to recover from a bad/corrupted operating system. If your phone is unbootable, this is your recovery option. SBF'ing your phone is not as scary as it sounds, just download the system restore file (.sbf), connect your phone via usb to your computer, and use RSDLITE 4.9 to flash the phone.
Nand backups / Clockwork recovery
Use clockworkmod to do a full backup of your phone. Think of it as a clone of your phone. Restore your phone by booting into clockwork recovery and instead of choosing "backup", use the "restore" command. It will then allow you to select one of the backups you have made with clockwork. Pretty easy stuff here.
jeftep said:
Nand backups / Clockwork recovery
Use clockworkmod to do a full backup of your phone. Think of it as a clone of your phone. Restore your phone by booting into clockwork recovery and instead of choosing "backup", use the "restore" command. It will then allow you to select one of the backups you have made with clockwork. Pretty easy stuff here.
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Thank you, this is exactly what I was after. My only problem remains that I do not see any guides on how to go about downloading/installing/operating this program. I'll keep searching now that I know more about what I'm searching for. Thanks!
Search the market for "rom manager", it's free. Load it and tap "flash clockworkmod recovery".
You can use this app to reboot into recovery or by holding down the home and volume down buttons while pushing the power on button.
You can also download the DX bootstrapper from koushik's site, just google "koush bootstrap". Also free.
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Woah there buddy.
I'm going to clarify this process a bit for you before you mess something up, if you don't mind.
Root your phone.
The simplest method is to search for Z4Root here in the forums...it's a .apk that roots your phone for you.
Now...
I assume you want a sweeeeeeeet rom, ya?
We can do that...
MY personal recommendation would be this...
Make sure you have at least 2-3 gigs free on your SD...it won't need to STAY that way...but during this process, it will.
Open your contacts.
Click the options button.
Backup your contacts to your SD card.
Now download Titanium from the market...
The free version works fine for 99% of what you need.
The only problem is (as mentioned) you have to manually click the "install" button for all 500098098098 of your apps when you restore...as opposed to just one button and letting it work for a few minutes.
Open Titanium and backup all of your apps+data.
Do you want Liberty 2.0? I personally use it and LOOOOOOVE it...but you currently have to pay $5.99 for it...a free version should be released soon.
If you do...just download liberty toolbox donate from the market.
It will install the rom for you! The option is under the "Rom Manager" part...
Make sure you select both options when installing....The "Backup" and "clear data" ones.
If you don't want liberty...read below...if you've chosen to pay the $5.99...skip down to the ****** below.
Download either DX bootstrap or Rom Manager.
Rom manager actually installs Clockwork...where bootstrap is simply a method of booting into clockwork via an application.
Either work fine.
Find the ROM you'd like to install and download the .zip
Put the zip on the root of your SD card.
Boot into clockwork.
(With DX bootstrap you click "bootstrap" and when it finishes click "reboot recovery")
Backup. (Camera button selects options, volume moves up and down, and power moves back a page)
Now Wipe Data/Factory Reset
Now...Wipe Data/Factory Reset
And again.
And again.
I usually do that 3-4 times just for extra security.
Now install zip from SD card.
Pick the "Choose Zip from SD card" option.
Find your rom's .zip
Click Reboot.
******
CONGRATULATIONS!
You're running a custom ROM!
Now...if you're contacts don't automatically start restoring...
You can choose the backup that you made from the options menu in your contacts.
Now...restore all apps+data with Titanium.
And you're back to where you were before the rom.
All your contacts...all your apps...
You may need to go back into your settings menu and change those back to your exact specifications.
Now...
If you don't like your rom...
You can boot into recovery again...
And restore to where you were previously with one click.
At this point after deciding I like the rom (I don't keep much free space on my SD)
I usually move my nandroid backup from before the rom to my computer...and delete it from my SD card...and then do another backup of my current (rom'd) setup.
I keep a copy of the titanium backup on my PC as well...and delete it from my SD card...there is no reason to waste a gig of space that can easily be transferred back when needed.
My recommendation is to always have you're most recent nandroid backup on your SD card and a copy of your last few on your computer.
You can rename the backup folders for organization...but don't use any spaces or special characters.
If you're REALLY hurting for space...
You can delete the nandroid backup safely if you have a microSD reader on your computer...in the case that your phone doesn't work and need to transfer the backup back onto your SD card.
Happy modding!
Thanks for the info, all of which answered my question just right. I've been using Gingerbread rooted & deoxed since Friday and it is quite nice. The improved battery life is phenomenal!
I want to STRONGLY recommend that everyone who is new/does not know what they are doing actually go through the process of flashing the rom. I was inexperienced once and I hard bricked it (unfixable). No one needs to go through that and anyway that's what keeps our bootloaders locked.
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT STEPS
If you do not wipe data/cache/dalvik cache/battery stats, you will bootloop. Repeatedly wiping is not at all necessary but its good for ocd.
If you do not mount system and data, your phone WILL NOT BOOT and you will have to sbf.
SBF'ing is not difficult but a pain in the ass. First of all you do not need version 4.9. I used 4.7 three days ago to flash the most recent system version. Make sure that you have the file for your bootloader version or again your phone WILL NOT BOOT.
That being said, I have found that all problems are almost always careless mistakes or at least mine have been
You will find that as long as you're careful and follow all instructions, you'll never have any problems
Ok. Great info. I have been reading through the stickies n then came across this.
I am currently running darkslide 4.2 with blur. Flashed using clockwork mod on DX rooted with z4. I know that's alot of acronyms but yall understand. I used the bootstrap to get to clockwork and load everything using astro file manager.
Here is the question.
Do I have to wipe my cache in clockwork or can I leave it? So far I have left it n its running fine but doesn't seem any faster and my battery runs down in about a day.
I also use Titanium to back up my stuff but do I ha e to back up everything manually or is the free version one touch good enough? I noticed there are alot of things not backed up in to do list. I will happily get the donate version if its recommended.
Thank you all for your time and effort to answer our beginner questions.
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Glad to see you are making progress, jperro. It never hurts (in my experience) to wipe the cache.
The paid version of Titanium backup lets you perform batch operations without interacting with every single install screen. There are other features that make it good, but thats the main one that saves you time/frustration.
I only back up a few system apps/data like Contacts Storage and Wifi Hotspots Storage. If I'm restoring my phone, chances are I'm either trying a new rom and I don't really want to muck it up with any old data - so I don't back up all the system apps/data that Titanium Backup shows as "not backed up". Besides, I've got nand backups in case I'm flashing back to a previous setup, so restoring system data or apps via Titanium seems redundant.
Ahhh. Ok. Thanks jeftep for the info. Very useful and informative.
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Need help, backing up my rom...

Can someone explain me, how i backup up my current rom with cwm?
I tried to search, but i couldn't find something helpfull...
I run TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 v3.2.2 and want to update to v3.2.8
Before the update i want to backup the current system, but I'm a newbe and i don't know how to do a backup with cwm...
It was the first time a flashed my HD2 last week, and it works pretty good, but because of that i have many many questions
Thank you all for the great job you are doing here in that Forum!
In CWM, go down to backup/restore, and press the left (green) phone button. Then go down to backup, again press the left phone button. Then CWM will make a backup of your ROM, data, and SD ext if you have one and it will be stored on your SD card in /clockworkmod/backup. It takes a while to back up, so have at least 50% battery. It will show you on your phone's screen what its doing. Then if you flash a different ROM or screw up your ROM by installing some incompatible modification, you can go into CWM and instead of backup, choose restore instead of backup, and your phone will be returned to the state it was in when you did the backup.
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Thx, that was exactly what i needed

[Q] Force clockwork restore?

I while preparing to flash a new ROM I scrolled one to many selections in the format menu and selected "format sdcard" by mistake. (anyone else think the little warning notice up top should inform you which area you are about to format and not just a generic "formatting can not be undone" warning... I have thought this before but never voiced it to anyone and it seems my fears were well founded)
So now I have lost my app data backups and ROM backups, along with various other data.
I have used a couple programs to recover the data on the sdcard and have managed to get the clockwork backups back. Problem is, I want to do a partial restore of just /data (from the advanced restore menu) but the md5 sums are not matching. As I as just restoring /data and from the same ROM currently on the phone, I am not overly concerned by that. I just need to get as much of the original app data back as I can so I can do a new backup of the app data and then do a proper wipe and flash of a new ROM.
I know there was a way to force a restore with ADB when I had my old N1, is there a way to do so with the current recovery on this phone?
Thanks in advance... I been up way past my normal time so I am dead and can't focus well. So its off to bed and hopefully will come back to some good news after work.
Nobody.. anything?

Corrupt Nandroid Backup

I ran a custom ROM today (10-13-2011) and wasn't completely satisfied, so I tried to flash back to my last working nandroid backup that I had created earlier this morning. Unfortunately, it got stuck while loading one particular file. After several battery pulls and several attempts at installation I ended up flashing a nandroid I had created 4 days ago (10-08-2011). This flash was successful which indicates to me that clockworkmod rom manager must have created a corrupt nandroid when I made one this morning. This is a bit disturbing to me bc I have OCD and now I'll be wondering if the nandroid backups I make from here on out are jacked up. Do you guys know why this may have happened? Or do you know a way to tell whether or not a nandroid is corrupt (before trying to flash it)? Should I be concerned with any of this at all?
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Don't know why this happens, but it has happened a few times to me
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It doesn't happen to you every time does it?
How long was it stick on a certain file? Mine sometimes seems to get hung up, but will continue after a minute or two...
It was hung up on that one file for like 5-10 minutes. When I flashed the older backup I didn't have that issue though.
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Update: About a week ago I had this same issue again. I made another nandroid backup, tried to flash it, and discovered it was corrupted and had to (yet again) flash back to that backup I made on 10-08-2011. Today (10-31-2011) I tried to make a backup and it actually successfully flashed after install. I was happy to see that happen....however I'm still disturbed by the inconsistancy I'm now experiencing with Clockwork Mod ROM Manager. Do you guys have any explaination for why I may be having these inconsistent issues?
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I'm just like you with the OCD about this...but I've luckily never had it happen to me.
I'm probably wrong on this, but it seems to me that these issues mostly started sprouting up on the 5.0.2.0(that's right, isn't it?) build.
What I've always done since hearing about this the first time is create a backup...and then restore the backup without even leaving cwm.
That way if MD5's don't match...(hopefully just that) I know it right away.
And if it fails on a single file...I can hope that it isn't a crucial file and my phone will still boot.
It gives me a little blanket of trust in my nandroid, at least.
I too must report many recent problems with nandroid backups (using CWM 5.0.2).
I take a full backup every week or so, as well as before doing something like changing a ROM. A couple of the backups are stored on my SD card, but the rest I push up to my NAS via FTP (to keep a longer history).
Yesterday I went to go back to a point in time only to find out that the backup didn't work (failed MD5 checksum). I managed to get a recent backup restored, but it had something broken in it, so I opted for a fully working backup. I ended up going through ALL of the nandroid backups that I've taken since getting my phone, and none of them work anymore!!! (even the broken one that did manage to restore once yesterday).
This is super weird, as I know that some of these backups were good as I have already restored them successfully!
I can't help but wonder if my file transfer method is playing a role here. First I was using FTP over WiFi, but then I switched to USB cable to PC as Flash drive -> NAS via wired Ethernet.
Whatever is going on here... it is really a serious problem. If you can't count on a full system backup like this, then there is really no point to it.
geva

[Q] Titanium Backup Extract from Nandroid no longer working on 4.2?

For some reason my phone got totally hosed up this evening. Everything was fine and I turned the screen off, I then immediately tried to turn it back on and nothing happened. So I hard rebooted (hold down power) and the phone never went past the boot screen. Tried wiping cache, which got it past the boot screen, then it went through the upgrading apps process, then when that was done it got stuck at "starting apps". It seemed like the System UI would not start. I left it for 5-10 mins and it never booted into my launcher.
So at that point, I decided to do a nandroid backup, then wipe my phone completely, and reinstall AOKP. That got me back into the phone, but my plan was to use the "Extract from Nandroid" feature built into Titanium Backup Pro to restore my apps and data from my nandroid backup. When I tried this, TB saw my nandroid backup, but selecting it brought up an empty apps list. I have successfully used this feature in the past without any issue - though I am not sure if I have used it since Android 4.2 was released.
So, I decided, let me see if I can browse my nandroid manually via Root Explorer. I navigated to the clockworkmod directory on my sdcard, where nandroid backups have usually been kept and it was also empty! So, I launched ROM Manager and sure enough it sees my nandroid there as well. Then I noticed the fine print:
In Android 4.2, backups are placed in secure directory, inaccessible to other apps. Backups can be pulled with ADB or by using ROM Manager Backup Download Server
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So, I am currently in the process of using the Download Server to download my backup to my PC. My question is, is there a way to get Titanium to read this zip file I am downloading and extract apps/data out of it like I used to do? Do I just copy the zip back to the /sdcard/clockworkmod directory?
If anyone has already been through this on 4.2 I would appreciate the advice. Thanks! :good:
Hi,
I had a similar problem on my N7 tb wasn't displaying anything from my twrp backups, try appextractor 2 beta from the play store. Worked for me took a few mins to process my back up but then displayed everything perfectly.
Hope this helps
SD.
Same problem... appextractor cannot find anything
This is because nandroids are now saved in a secure file. I'm pretty sure it's /mount/shell/clockworkmod. There's some apps on the play store like cwm backup manager that allow you to make copies to your pc.
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mustangtim49 said:
This is because nandroids are now saved in a secure file. I'm pretty sure it's /mount/shell/clockworkmod. There's some apps on the play store like cwm backup manager that allow you to make copies to your pc.
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I am dealing with the same problem right now...
The reason for your problem is probably that you made your backup with CMW 6 and not 5. Neither Appextractor nor Titanium Backup can currently work with the new backups it seems.
I would greatly appreciate any ideas/solutions!
So basically Titanium is useless with 4.2.2?
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So basically Titanium is useless with 4.2.2?
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Never had a problem with Titanium and 4.2.2 ever.

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