The new HTC One is on sale now in Taiwan but with no 4G or LTE option. They really screwed their own people over by being so stingy and just offering a 3G Model only here in Taiwan. Currently I also only see a 16GB or 32GB Version with no 64GB Version. Imagine Apple modifying their iPhone 5 and sending Taiwan consumers the iPhone 5 with just 3G and 4G option inside their top of the line smartphone. HTC CEO should resign and HTC needs someone with a better brain to take over his position.
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The new HTC One is on sale now in Taiwan but with no 4G or LTE option. They really screwed their own people over by being so stingy and just offering a 3G Model only here in Taiwan. Currently I also only see a 16GB or 32GB Version with no 64GB Version. Imagine Apple modifying their iPhone 5 and sending Taiwan consumers the iPhone 5 with just 3G and 4G option inside their top of the line smartphone. HTC CEO should resign and HTC needs someone with a better brain to take over his position.
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How sure are you there? Does the sim inserted in that handset do really have LTE coverage? I saw one post on the UK thread talking about the LTE option not showing up when the sim/network that the phone is using doesn't have LTE support.
One user there tried swapping a non LTE network sim & a LTE network sim then the LTE option shows up and dissappears when he used the non LTE network sim.
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How sure are you there? Does the sim inserted in that handset do really have LTE coverage? I saw one post on the UK thread talking about the LTE option not showing up when the sim/network that the phone is using doesn't have LTE support.
One user there tried swapping a non LTE network sim & a LTE network sim then the LTE option shows up and dissappears when he used the non LTE network sim.
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That is how it is on the iPhone 5 because with the iPhone 5 it comes with 4G/LTE Chipset where here they apparently took that option out and only supplied thier smartphones with a 3G chipset.
Check this link out and scroll down to see specs. list.
http://shopping.pchome.com.tw/AEAADF-A74276057
How's the 4G/LTE coverage in Taiwan?
Riyal said:
How sure are you there? Does the sim inserted in that handset do really have LTE coverage? I saw one post on the UK thread talking about the LTE option not showing up when the sim/network that the phone is using doesn't have LTE support.
One user there tried swapping a non LTE network sim & a LTE network sim then the LTE option shows up and dissappears when he used the non LTE network sim.
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I was the poster who has no LTE options in my menus (on Three UK). I couldn't see any post from another user who tried swapping SIMs and the options show/disappear. Do you have a link? I hope I haven't been given a non-LTE handset!
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How's the 4G/LTE coverage in Taiwan?
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None. basically it's the government screwed ourselves and all our ISP feel like earning more bucks by merely 3G.
BTW, hTC one 16G is only released in Taiwan.
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None. basically it's the government screwed ourselves and all our ISP feel like earning more bucks by merely 3G.
BTW, hTC one 16G is only released in Taiwan.
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BTW, hTC one 64G is available in retail channel in Taiwan but not pre-order from carriers.
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None. basically it's the government screwed ourselves and all our ISP feel like earning more bucks by merely 3G.
BTW, hTC one 16G is only released in Taiwan.
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I see.. then there's no point to get LTE version now. The LTE version is more future proof but new flagship come out every year. LTE version might also consume more battery and reserve more RAM for the network.
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The new HTC One is on sale now in Taiwan but with no 4G or LTE option. They really screwed their own people over by being so stingy and just offering a 3G Model only here in Taiwan. Currently I also only see a 16GB or 32GB Version with no 64GB Version. Imagine Apple modifying their iPhone 5 and sending Taiwan consumers the iPhone 5 with just 3G and 4G option inside their top of the line smartphone. HTC CEO should resign and HTC needs someone with a better brain to take over his position.
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in a second, I found myself just can't disagree with THIS part. HTC got great designers/engineer but they got a xxxx CEO. Chow said he would step down if new ONE fails. That's so appealing that I almost want to NOT buy this phone. Well, almost.
jonstatt said:
I was the poster who has no LTE options in my menus (on Three UK). I couldn't see any post from another user who tried swapping SIMs and the options show/disappear. Do you have a link? I hope I haven't been given a non-LTE handset!
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I remember you but i was talking about another user. He was using the phone with his old sim that has no lte but when he inserted his not yet activated 3sim the option showed up.
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How sure are you there? Does the sim inserted in that handset do really have LTE coverage? I saw one post on the UK thread talking about the LTE option not showing up when the sim/network that the phone is using doesn't have LTE support.
One user there tried swapping a non LTE network sim & a LTE network sim then the LTE option shows up and disappears when he used the non LTE network sim.
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How's the 4G/LTE coverage in Taiwan?
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They still only have 3G here because they are so freakin stingy and cheap. When Nokia and Sony/Ericsson offered to help Taiwan install their new 4G/LTE network Taiwan refused to save money and wanted to give their people the old system reserved currently for their military/army. No wonder Taiwan is lagging in Asia these days because many of these locals are so stingy to spend and look for more ways to save and cut and instead of spending and improving. Taiwan should have had 4G/LTE service long ago but "No,because no one wanted to spend and waste money on faster speeds"
The Koreans (South Korea) that is and Japanese always make the best and release the best in their markets first where Taiwan is probably the last to sell the best to their own people.
I mean what is the actual difference in cost between then 3G and 4G chipset?? They got a whole production line running here in manufacturing.
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How sure are you there? Does the sim inserted in that handset do really have LTE coverage? I saw one post on the UK thread talking about the LTE option not showing up when the sim/network that the phone is using doesn't have LTE support.
One user there tried swapping a non LTE network sim & a LTE network sim then the LTE option shows up and disappears when he used the non LTE network sim.
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Originally Posted by x92
How's the 4G/LTE coverage in Taiwan?
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They still only have 3G here because they are so freakin stingy and cheap. When Nokia and Sony/Ericsson offered to help Taiwan install their new 4G/LTE network Taiwan refused to save money and wanted to give their people the old system reserved currently for their military/army. No wonder Taiwan is lagging in Asia these days because many of these locals are so stingy to spend and look for more ways to save and cut and instead of spending and improving. Taiwan should have had 4G/LTE service long ago but "No,because no one wanted to spend and waste money on faster speeds"
The Koreans (South Korea) that is and Japanese always make the best and release the best in their markets first where Taiwan is probably the last to sell the best to their own people.
I mean what is the actual difference in cost between then 3G and 4G chipset?? They got a whole production line running here in manufacturing.
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Im not sure but here in our country we get like everything thats available we have gsm, edge, cdma, wimax, hspa, hspa+, lte so I don't think its too expensive to think that your country is alot more progressive than ours.
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desiregeek said:
They still only have 3G here because they are so freakin stingy and cheap. When Nokia and Sony/Ericsson offered to help Taiwan install their new 4G/LTE network Taiwan refused to save money and wanted to give their people the old system reserved currently for their military/army. No wonder Taiwan is lagging in Asia these days because many of these locals are so stingy to spend and look for more ways to save and cut and instead of spending and improving. Taiwan should have had 4G/LTE service long ago but "No,because no one wanted to spend and waste money on faster speeds"
The Koreans (South Korea) that is and Japanese always make the best and release the best in their markets first where Taiwan is probably the last to sell the best to their own people.
I mean what is the actual difference in cost between then 3G and 4G chipset?? They got a whole production line running here in manufacturing.
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I think 4G might be more expensive, here in Australia, 4G models are slightly more expensive compared to 3G.
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desiregeek said:
The new HTC One is on sale now in Taiwan but with no 4G or LTE option. They really screwed their own people over by being so stingy and just offering a 3G Model only here in Taiwan. Currently I also only see a 16GB or 32GB Version with no 64GB Version. Imagine Apple modifying their iPhone 5 and sending Taiwan consumers the iPhone 5 with just 3G and 4G option inside their top of the line smartphone. HTC CEO should resign and HTC needs someone with a better brain to take over his position.
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Taiwan does not have 4g/lte network afaik.
There is a 64g version, only from vibo Telco
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taiwan have wimax, lte are expected after 2015 (info from the news).
Relax!
nahojnahoj said:
taiwan have wimax, lte are expected after 2015 (info from the news).
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For those who care, this is worth repeating.
There were originally two competing 4G standards: LTE and WiMax. The Taiwanese government worked with Intel on WiMax (which has been rolled out in certain areas), but eventually LTE become more widely adopted in the global marketplace. Now Taiwan is catching up a little, but aims to auction off its 4G LTE licenses this year, with services eventually coming a year or two later.
As for the HTC One, there are already several variants for different markets (i.e. with different LTE bands). If a market doesn't have LTE, then it might make sense to choose a cheaper 3.5G baseband chip instead (although I don't know if this is the case with Taiwan's model; after all the Nexus 4 had some form of hidden LTE support).
Anyway, it's clearly stated on HTC's Taiwan website, so no-one's being deceptive. If LTE is important (i.e. if you want to roam when traveling abroad), then buy from somewhere like Clove or Handtec that ship to Taiwan (it actually works out slightly cheaper than buying locally).
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For those who care, this is worth repeating.
There were originally two competing 4G standards: LTE and WiMax. The Taiwanese government worked with Intel on WiMax (which has been rolled out in certain areas), but eventually LTE become more widely adopted in the global marketplace. Now Taiwan is catching up a little, but aims to auction off its 4G LTE licenses this year, with services eventually coming a year or two later.
As for the HTC One, there are already several variants for different markets (i.e. with different LTE bands). If a market doesn't have LTE, then it might make sense to choose a cheaper 3.5G baseband chip instead (although I don't know if this is the case with Taiwan's model; after all the Nexus 4 had some form of hidden LTE support).
Anyway, it's clearly stated on HTC's Taiwan website, so no-one's being deceptive. If LTE is important (i.e. if you want to roam when traveling abroad), then buy from somewhere like Clove or Handtec that ship to Taiwan (it actually works out slightly cheaper than buying locally).
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One of the more reasons people go to Hong Kong to shop instead of Taiwan. For every minus that their smartphones have in Taiwan it gives their competitor an edge in sales. Taiwan does get some tourists from China and other countries. In Korea and Japan they offer the best of the products in their own countries to their own people. HTC exports the better items and offers the smartphones with less features to their own people in their own country so they lose out to to their own customers from their own country and from tourist or visitors from abroad as well because instead of buying smartphones in Taiwan they will buy them in Hong Kong or Singapore where they do come with 4G or LTE.
I do like the HTC ONE but this was a very stupid marketing mistake on behalf of HTC Taiwan to sell the local version without 4G/LTE in their high end smartphone model.
I'd be really if it is not LTE capable as this is an innate part of the Quellcom chipset. Without an LTE sim, you simply don't get the menu option but it is still possible with the right sim card.
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I'd be really if it is not LTE capable as this is an innate part of the Quellcom chipset. Without an LTE sim, you simply don't get the menu option but it is still possible with the right sim card.
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Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 doesn't have network modem integrated to it so HTC One is using a different chipset for networking radios.
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I'd be really if it is not LTE capable as this is an innate part of the Quellcom chipset. Without an LTE sim, you simply don't get the menu option but it is still possible with the right sim card.
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Either that or one got one that just comes with 3G and no 4G or LTE like the ones being sold in Taiwan.
Related
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/05/nexus-one-lives-on-as-googles-official-developer-phone/
LONG LIVE THE NEXUS ONE!!!
Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
I am glad I am with tmobile is tbis phone going to be the one they gave out to developers with security off or will it be like the retail version
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Engadget said that the bootloader isn't unlocked, and that fastboot is disabled (!). What does that mean in effect, I have no idea.
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Only problem, at least for me, is that it's the T-Mobile band version.
But it's still awesome nonetheless.
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I bought an AT&T version before they stopped selling them, and on the slip that came with it it says
GSM 3G 850/1900/2100MHz
If i'm not mistaken, what is "the 3 UMTS Bands 900/AWS/2100" mean.
Does this phone not cover all bands? It's quoted to be carried independant.
There are two different nexus ones out there. Each one is compatible with both AT&T and T-Mobile voice and data frequencies. BUT, if you get the T-Mobile banded model, then when you put an AT&T sim card in it you will only get Edge speed internet. The difference between the two is 3g connectivity. The really ****ty and annoying thing is the chip that is in the phone is supposedly capable of all GSM frequencies and all 3g frequencies but the phone is missing the correct ancillary chip to activate them all. So they made two different ones. I would bet that the American carriers weren't hap py about having a phone that could be taken from one provider to another and put their foot down. Just my theory though.
I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
Have you looked at the seller's return policy?
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No, they don't. T-Mobile and Verizon use totally different radio technologies.
Go onto the Marketplace forum on XDA, and trade/sell it through there.
Put your sim card in it
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Post it for sale locally on craigslist to finance a unit with the AT&T radio.
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Also if you have trouble locating the AT&T compatible N1, you may also consider the Telus version of HTC Desire. Largely the same hardware, AT&T bands, but no Euro 2100 band.
Possible bonus: AT&T does not know the IMEI of Telus Androids, and might not force you to a higher cost smart phone data plan.
Thanks for your input, guys.
I'll try first to sell it locally via Craigslist.
I really think that it will be much more difficult
since they discontinued the Nexus One, and provided it through the developers only,
it has always been the T-Mobile version which is quite disappointing....
the AT&T version seem to just disappear from manufacturing all together
point I am trying to make is that it the AT&T version should be much rarer and possibly worth more on the market since there are less quantities of it
it sucks my friend I feel for you...
How is the T-Mobile N1 different from AT&T model?
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Different radio frequencies and limited availability. Otherwise identical.
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I've done the exact opposite...got myself an ATT N1 while on tmobile...hahaha
hahah. I've since sold my T-Mo N1 on eBay and bought an AT&T N1 from Craigslist.. got a sweet deal, too!
wait wait a sec
If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
Sir0 said:
If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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Yes, it will function on the network. The issue is that the radio hardware is built for specific frequencies, which differ between the T-Mobile and AT&T models.
You can use one phone on the other's network just fine as a phone, but you will be limited to 2G data speeds, as AT&T uses 850/1900MHz for their 3G data and T-Mobile uses 900 1700/2100MHz.
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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You're right, my apologies. The fact of the matter (that the hardware is incompatible between the AT&T and T-Mobile networks) remains intact though.
Correct 3G data frequency information, as best I can make it out:
AT&T uses 850MHz and 1900MHz.
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
900MHz and 2100MHz are used primarily in Europe; a phone made for European markets will have a better chance of being fully compatible with T-Mobile's network in the states based on sharing the 2100MHz band.
Closer but still not quite
Read up on the AWS band. European phones will not get T-Mobile 3G at all without 1700.
But in the specific case of the Nexus One, models sold in Europe do have AWS.
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Dope
I just got the mytouch 4g and i wanted to sell my nexus one. But i wanted to double check and see if i can sell it to someone on the at&t network. I currently have tmobile. I thought the S-Off was to completely unlock the phone. So u can switch between carriers. Didnt know the frequency would be different. thank guyz. Damn u HTC.
austinm08 said:
I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
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What kind of shape is your T-Mobile N1 in?
I'm actually in the process of switching to T-Mobile, and I have an ATT model that I would potentially be interested in trading, but it's definitely not mint.
Hey guys,
today i saw that the S3 for germany will not support LTE.... i really dont get it.. why the hell is samsung doing this ? its completly nonsense... On every other location they will ship a LTE version.. Of course Germany does not have a complete support for LTE, but it is growing very fast.
It really sucks to have many different types of the S3 like the Samsung Galaxy S, Vibrant, Bell and so on.... Does someone know if they are only 2 different types or more ?
They cant be serious, and of course, the want for the S3 with LTE around 600€ and without the same price....
I really hope, that they think again about this decision and ship every S3 with, wether the country supports LTE or not...
What do you guys think about that ?
I won't miss it as much as many will becoz LTE isn't really supported here in Germany as in e.g. the USA...
(Dafür müsste ich zu Vodafone oder so mit Knebelvertrag )
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Hmm you are right mate. But the problem is that many devs come from London, USA and other countrys where LTE is supported so they get other device and our device won't support the roms they develop.. that will be horrible :/
I think as long as there aren't more phones with LTE, providers won't support it more..
I am from austria and also a bit upset that there won't be an LTE version because at least in vienna LTE is already growing.
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Hmm you are right mate. But the problem is that many devs come from London, USA and other countrys where LTE is supported so they get other device and our device won't support the roms they develop.. that will be horrible :/
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No, we will get the same international device. We won't just be able to use LTE because it's set to the wrong frequecies and cannot be changed as far as I know.
Same with the iPad 3.
Does LTE really have speeds and the data plans to make it worth it over HSPA+? I mean I download hella fast on Three over here in the UK and it has Unlimited data. I've never thought the internet on the phone was too slow, it's faster than my mates broadband and I can stream BBC iPlayer desktop site and Netflix just fine.
I could just imagine coverage being crap as it's just been adopted and if your companies are like what they are here in the UK they'll give you 500mb which you'll hit the limit within 5 mins.
No, we will get the same international device. We won't just be able to use LTE because it's set to the wrong frequecies and cannot be changed as far as I know.
Same with the iPad 3.
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So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
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So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
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No.
We will get the version that was demoed a week ago with the quad-core exynos, that version will not support "4G", and not only because of frequency bands but because the "4G"(3G-LTE) being rolled out in Europe is not "true" 4G like in the US.
The US version will probably get the Snapdragon S4 as that is currently the best SoC out there that has 4G-LTE built-in, unless Samsung actually has a Exynos SoC with 4G-LTE.
But if they start rolling out 4G-LTE in Europe then frequency bands may also be an issue.
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So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
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Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
That's completely nonsense that Germany won't get the international version which does indeed supports HSPA+. But the other question would be if your provider do offer it.
http://samsung-galaxy-s3.net/rumors/galaxy-s3-will-have-4g-lte-support-in-europe
LTE SGS3 which will be released this summer in america will feature a completely different chipset because exynos is not capable for these frequencies.
FISKER_Q said:
No.
We will get the version that was demoed a week ago with the quad-core exynos, that version will not support "4G", and not only because of frequency bands but because the "4G"(3G-LTE) being rolled out in Europe is not "true" 4G like in the US.
The US version will probably get the Snapdragon S4 as that is currently the best SoC out there that has 4G-LTE built-in, unless Samsung actually has a Exynos SoC with 4G-LTE.
But if they start rolling out 4G-LTE in Europe then frequency bands may also be an issue.
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Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
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Why are people still spreading this nonsense, i.e. that there is no "true" LTE in Europe?
Germany does have "true" LTE, the same as is used in the U.S. (but on different bands). Deutsche Telekom is offering up to 100 Mbit/s in their tariffs.
And the network isn't as small as some people make it out to be (and fast growing):
t-mobile.de/funkversorgung/inland/
vodafone.de/privat/hilfe-support/netzabdeckung.html
(I can't post links yet, you have to copy&paste them)
It's true that they offer 42 Mbit/s HSPA+ - but they also have LTE on top of that.
m8tix said:
Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
That's completely nonsense that Germany won't get the international version which does indeed supports HSPA+. But the other question would be if your provider do offer it.
http://samsung-galaxy-s3.net/rumors/galaxy-s3-will-have-4g-lte-support-in-europe
LTE SGS3 which will be released this summer in america will feature a completely different chipset because exynos is not capable for these frequencies.
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It's funny you say "true" 4g speeds, no network on this planet offers "true" 4g speeds.
No American carrier even gets upto a tenth of what true 4g is.
The LTE out now is 3.9G and carriers don't even offer that fully.
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It's funny you say "true" 4g speeds, no network on this planet offers "true" 4g speeds.
No American carrier even gets upto a tenth of what true 4g is.
The LTE out now is 3.9G and carriers don't even offer that fully.
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this is directed more at the OP than anything, but I own both versions of the phone and have access to LTE networks that regularly get 40-50 mb/s down. In day to day use yes it's faster, but when I use the s4 stateside version browsing the internet literally chunks my battery down by 20 percent points over 20-30 minutes. Streaming video is even more of a joke you might get 2 hours before the phone dies. the HSPA speeds are more than enough for me and I get more than double the battery life just by not using LTE networks. Hope this helps, you shouldn't feel like you're getting ripped off both versions of the phone are good, but I prefer the international version as well as most of the community would agree.
News has it that both Deutsche Telekom and Vodafone will be offering the Galaxy S3 LTE starting mid-october. It will have a quad-core, like the UMTS version.
heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Samsungs-Galaxy-S3-LTE-kommt-nach-Deutschland-1675044.html
Same in the UK man... While LTE will be rolled out this and next year, I've already bought my S3, so I don't have the correct chip... which kinda annoys me! But even if I had the South Korean or US version, the frequencies are different. Sadly, there are no definitive standards for this stuff, so each country, and even each network just pics whatever works for them. Kinda sux!
To add insult to injury though, I can't even get DC-HSPA! Every network in the UK are doing it EXCEPT Vodafone. Not sure why, but they won't do it. My S3 supports it and all, but Voda are being annoying.
Ahh well, in another 2 years I'll have a 4G phone I guess
The German and the Korean Version might be the same, if I'm not mistaken, since Germany needs 800/1800/2600 and Korea 800/1800. From what I've heard the UK will start off with re-farmed 1800 and later add 800/2600, so they would likely be compatible. Not entirely sure.
seeafish said:
Same in the UK man... While LTE will be rolled out this and next year, I've already bought my S3, so I don't have the correct chip... which kinda annoys me! But even if I had the South Korean or US version, the frequencies are different. Sadly, there are no definitive standards for this stuff, so each country, and even each network just pics whatever works for them. Kinda sux!
To add insult to injury though, I can't even get DC-HSPA! Every network in the UK are doing it EXCEPT Vodafone. Not sure why, but they won't do it. My S3 supports it and all, but Voda are being annoying.
Ahh well, in another 2 years I'll have a 4G phone I guess
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On the Samsung UK website, for the S3, it lists the data speed spec as HSPA+21 , which is not DC-HSPA. Does that mean there needs to be a radio update or something before these speeds can be used, or Samsung's website is wrong....?
This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great.
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
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This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great.
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
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thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
sanjsrik said:
thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
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He hasn't posted his full review yet, only the unboxing. I'm sure he'll discuss the speeds he's getting when he does his full review.
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
t-Mobile yes?
10pmStalker said:
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
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Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
sanjsrik said:
Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
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Yes thats right. He got LTE on T-mobile. He said it was way better speeds than he got with his G3
I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
Good news if it works with T Mobile
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I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
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I will be going to Taipei and Thailand in November so maybe I can buy the Mate 7 there. My big worry is whether there would be various models or variations in hardware configurations. I still find it strange that it seems hard to determine if a phone works with a specific carrier until it gets used on that carrier. If the phone says it works on Bands 2 and 4 should it not definitely work on T Mobile's LTE network? I sometimes wonder if the cell phone companies purposely confuse the issue so you will not buy a different phone. I am not an iphone guy but I believe I read that the Sprint and US Cellular Iphones (and maybe Verizon?)
support virtually every cell phone band in the world, if true, that is what I would like to see in a phone. You never know when you might make a wrong turn and end up in Chad or Outer Mongolia!
Bill
Not sure what bands its connecting on... as Tmobile in USA looks like it has 700, 1700 and 1900... but none of those are the reported 1,3,7 LTE FDD bands that the the mate7 is supposed to have.... maybe it also has band 2?
EDIT: If this is true, then it all makes sense how the reviewer was getting full speeds on tmobile. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55468358&postcount=1 + http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55500623&postcount=3IF those bands are available while roaming, then it makes sense as band 2 would enable it. Also band 4.
http://www.zdnet.com/huawei-ascend-...inum-design-and-solid-performance-7000034132/
Further confirmation that the device gets LTE on T-mobile.
So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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shinji21 said:
So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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Yes. From the article:
" This version of the Ascend Mate 7 supports LTE and HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T so I am enjoying it on T-Mobile's LTE network."
He didn't list a specific version, but I'm sure he would have mentioned if it were a US specific version as opposed to the normal Chinese version. So far all of the reviews that I have seen where Huawei has sent out a device have been the Chinese version.
Wonder which Chinese version it is since I want to pick one up next month when I travel. Any info is greatly appreciated.
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I don't know personally. Mayne you should go to the article and ask in the comments. They might be kind enough to let you know the specific model number.
I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
Interesting. It could be the APN with his att prepaid Sim. But at least it works for T-Mobile for sure.
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MT7-TL10 the 3 gig gold model appears to support identical bands as the 2 gig model above.
It appears aliexpress has updated the description online to include bands 2 and 4 now
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I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
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This confirms what I posted in the other thread from the Youtube reviewer (Alex from AndroidHeadlines) who stated that he had gotten HSPA+ on AT&T, but LTE on T-Mobile.
When I Googled the model number (MT7-L09) it brought me to this page (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/support/manuals/ascend-mate7.htm) which has a US/English support manual for the phone and specs that list bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28.
MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
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MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
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Yeah me too. I am just worried about ordering from Aliexpress and having it take a month to get to me. They are notorious for taking forever to ship to the US.
I really wish Huawei would get their stuff together and get this device in people's hands. Just put it on your website and let people pre-order it at least.
I'm in the US and would like to know where to buy the 64GB version. My google search only revealed some off-shore sites that I have never heard off and want to make sure that members here can vouch for the sources they got their phone from.
Thanks
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I'm in the US and would like to know where to buy the 64GB version. My google search only revealed some off-shore sites that I have never heard off and want to make sure that members here can vouch for the sources they got their phone from.
Thanks
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Try this: http://www.grossoshop.net/huawei-ho...-4g-lte-3-64gb-gold-shipping-from-europe.html
It's shipped from Italy and it has 24 month EU warranty. Shipping cost is to pay separately though but it's not a big deal.
You can get it cheaper but with China warranty and service in China is really something. I'll never try it again.
First make sure the networks will function in US.
I bought chinese version PLK-TL01H on oppomart(Phone was delivered within 3 days by DHL). LTE is NOT working on AT&T, however HSPA+ is working and it is kinda sufficient for me.
p13rr0t said:
I bought chinese version PLK-TL01H on oppomart(Phone was delivered within 3 days by DHL). LTE is NOT working on AT&T, however HSPA+ is working and it is kinda sufficient for me.
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Since s7yler has published this excellent site link: http://www.willmyphonework.net/, finding phone connection possibility is no big deal anymore. If you're from the USA, you'll have 2G and 3G in any network but those from CDMA side (like Verizon) and you'll have 4G on Sprint (at least in cities) and providers using its network (like Defense). And you can always buy additional data pay as you go sim as you have two sim slots.
piskr said:
Try this: http://www.grossoshop.net/huawei-ho...-4g-lte-3-64gb-gold-shipping-from-europe.html
It's shipped from Italy and it has 24 month EU warranty. Shipping cost is to pay separately though but it's not a big deal.
You can get it cheaper but with China warranty and service in China is really something. I'll never try it again.
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p13rr0t said:
I bought chinese version PLK-TL01H on oppomart(Phone was delivered within 3 days by DHL). LTE is NOT working on AT&T, however HSPA+ is working and it is kinda sufficient for me.
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piskr said:
Since s7yler has published this excellent site link: http://www.willmyphonework.net/, finding phone connection possibility is no big deal anymore. If you're from the USA, you'll have 2G and 3G in any network but those from CDMA side (like Verizon) and you'll have 4G on Sprint (at least in cities) and providers using its network (like Defense). And you can always buy additional data pay as you go sim as you have two sim slots.
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Thanks guys. I am on Cricket mobile which essentially is ATT. Their data is limited to I believe 8mbits/s anyway so LTE even if it doesn't work is not that big of a deal. I have checked that all other bands 3G (HSPA+) and 2G work. I am no stranger to non US phones if you check my sig, so making sure I have supported bands is usually my first filter to decide if a phone makes my list.
I'll check out the sites you all provided.
Be very careful, Oppomart stole me almost 400eur on refound (sent me a used mobile of another old model and i sent back), they just wait PayPal time expire, don’t let time expire even they implore. Do not trust Oppomart.
I buy from aliexpress and pandawill, it never happen something like this.