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Hard choice? Sony Xperia Z or HTC One

Hi Guys!
After spending hours and hours on forum, test etc... I'm currently hesiting between the HTC One or Sony Xperia. I like both disign but I order the Xperia for the moment because good package in belgium. The phone + Bluetooth speaker + Dock for 649 euros.
But the HTC One processor seems better the Sony Xperia?
Please Help me in my choice :'(

Go for Xperia Z, it is better! Htc gives poor user support.
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Ok But why it's better? I like both disign what about the processor? Snap Dragon 600 is better than the 400 Pro?

Obviously everyone on Z board will suggest you Z, and HTC One on One board. So ask this question in General forum.
But the best advice really is to test both devices yourself and get the one you like more. Simple as that

If you're sitting on your Phone and like to run Benchmarks all day then go for the HTC.
The processor of the XZ is more then sufficient. Making the choice due to a more overpowered processor seems odd

Kinoal said:
Ok But why it's better? I like both disign what about the processor? Snap Dragon 600 is better than the 400 Pro?
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XZ has water and dust proof with cool camera. And much more functions! Even XZ has 400Pro, keep in mind that HTC Sense takes more memory and heavier.
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Lol no I don't care about benchmarks Just bad experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. Lag ,.. even after changing the rom to cynogen mod.
And I come from the Iphone 5 so I'm hoping for the same fluidity experience than on IOS That's all
I like the "Aluminium" disign on the HTC One but the disign of the Sony Xperia Z White looks incredible too Both are great But just I can't wait until march for the HTC One except if there is a good reason

pongnamu said:
Go for Xperia Z, it is better! Htc gives poor user support.
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You made me laugh.
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Kinoal said:
Lol no I don't care about benchmarks Just bad experience with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2. Lag ,.. even after changing the rom to cynogen mod.
And I come from the Iphone 5 so I'm hoping for the same fluidity experience than on IOS That's all
I like the "Aluminium" disign on the HTC One but the disign of the Sony Xperia Z White looks incredible too Both are great But just I can't wait until march for the HTC One except if there is a good reason
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Please note that the aluminum is easy to be scrached off, and the color when scrached off is different color :/
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These are the biggest selling points for each when you compare the two:
Xperia Z
Lighter, more consistent skin
Praised, very slim design
Waterproof
SD slot
HDR Video
HTC One
Slightly faster
Better display (probably)
Special camera software (Zoe)
Better speakers
More internal memory
Aluminium body
Just take your pick. For me it was easy, the lighter skin of Sony adds a lot of functionality I really like (good Walkman and Album apps) while HTC's skin is a bit chaotic at times, almost like each app is designed by a completely different team. I don't have any experience with the HTC One in specific but this was the case on all past HTC's with Android and I don't expect it to have changed that much. If you prefer pure speed and hardware power the HTC One is probably the better choice.

If viewing angles and or speakers are important to you take the HTC else take the one you really want

Yeah true. Another point is on my iphone , when I have a call, I always have headshake. All the time. I check on the internet and I see that the DAS of the Iphone 5 is 0,92 and the Sony Xperia Z das is 0,55!!! Almost Half!
That's one of the reason why I want to switch to another phone cause I can't stay with my iphone next to my head more than 3 min or I directly have an headshake

4UP UltraPixel rear camera
If you don't really addicted to the 4UP UltraPixel rear camera and iPhone appearance and Sense TV, I think there is no need to change Sony Xperia Z to HTC One.

The BIG + of the Sony I think is that you have a SD Port. It Mean that you have have infinite Mémory. Have 2 or 3 SD Card of 32 Go with you in your wallet and store movies etc

Easy choice.
Xperia Z.
I had to Rma 3 one X's and although the screen was amazing and I did like sense, not enough to get me back.
Cant wait to get XZ.
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Don't forget about battery life too mate and xperia z is better to me because it has expandable sd card slot
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Hooo What do you mean? That the battery of XZ is better?
Yeah the sony look better and no need to wait 4 weeks And the welcome package is better. Bluetooth Speakers and Dock free

Really and truely this isn't going to help you decide I don't think.
My advice is like what I did myself is go and play with the two phones side by side and test everything out side by side and then decide which is better for you.
I could say One is better because XYZ but those could be for my needs not yours or person B will say Xperia Z again same thing that could be because that is what is suited to them.
The end of the day I am putting money into either HTC or Sony's pocket not the other way around - so there is no need for me to be biased about anything.

I know you right. It's just that It's also so difficult to switch from Iphone 5 to Android cause of my bad experience with the Samsung Tab 2 that I'm hesitate. Firstly I want to buy the XZ because I'm spending a lot of time on my smartphone and the screen of an iphone 5 is a little too small for me.
Now I like the disign of the XZ
Now the most important thing is XZ is the same in term of fluidity than the Iphone 5?? That's my main fear !

Someone says xperia z have hdr, ant htc one dont. That is fake.
Htc one have HDR, and even front camera have HDR.
Also this guys says sd card, that bunch of people talking what they dont even know what they thinking.
I got xperia s (32GB) i have 1500 songs various format, 3000pictures and 2-3 HD movies.
You know what? I got almost 8-10gb to waste. So thing with sd card as pros or cons tell your children not your self.
Sd card was problem before, when phones got low internal memory.
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Lets give some praise to the Z

Over the past week or two. All I have seen is people destroying the Z for a lot of things from the screen to the camera and the battery.
So why don't we talk about what we like about our Z's, as at this point in time I feel a little of buyers remorse
So what do I like, not based on other's reviews just my own experience
Screen - I do actually like the screen, when I had the phone in my hand, head down walking around sitting it's a great screen compared to my Nexus 4 it may not be as saturated but I can definitely tell it is a higher res screen, stuff does look beautiful , even people who have the IP5 etc have said to me wow its a nice display (not even know it had the issues with saturation). Only when I lay down in bed and put my phone on my bed do I notice the angle issues but its not a pain.
Camera - The camera is a pretty decent in low light I have found, compared to my N4 it seems to get a lot more out of an image in terms of low light, the BE engine does do a lot to an image too. It may not be pin sharp but the images are most certainly 100% usable for FB/Instagram - Sending around the web etc. After all for me that's all I do
Speed - No issues, blazing fast. I don't do a lot of gaming, mainly e-mails, twitter, instagram. Using a lot of camera based app when I'm on a set. It boots up quickly, nice smooth transitions, only a little bit of slow loading when I open the camera app. But in terms of bench marks, it's miles ahead of my n4 and sgs III.
I love the design, so much better than my SGS III, which was a great phone it was built to take drops, but it is nice to have a sexy phone in my hands! It's the first phone I pulled out and someone asked me what it was because it looked cool
Launcher - Very nice and simple it kinda stock androidish which I like very minimalistic to a certain extent (looking forward to 4.2.2) I do still have a soft spot for Touch Wiz but it's nice to change it up!
Updates ? - Not 100% sure about this but I thought I would bring it up, it seems sony is helping the community alot, and you guys seem like your doing alot of work on the device so hopefully I will at least get the next major update for android some time this year or next year (4.3 or 5.0)
Overall for what I use it for I dout I could tell a difference between the S4 and the Z apart from the screen as my SGS III seems super saturated in comparison to the N4 and Z.
What do you guys think, why do you love your Z ? Go Zeeee

The camera is my favourite feature, it knocks the socks off my old note 2 and my wife's galaxy s3, indoor pics actually look great.
hdr mode video and the ability to take stills while filming is also really cool.
I also like it's looks, it's minimalist, sleek and turns heads.
Also goes without saying, it's waterproof, which having dropped 2 expensive phone in water in the past, gives me some piece of mind, though I haven't tested the water resistance yet!
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I love the phone, most of the screen chatter IMO is mostly rubbish, two different SZ I have seen were fine as good as any other LCD I have seen for off angle fall off of colours. Everyone I have showed the phone have been wowed by the screen (Samsung,HTC,Nokia & Iphone), it is also very good outside in bright light. This screen is better than any 3 of my HTC phones by a long shot.
The phone is fast and snappy, should be stunning on Linux 3.6, hopefully this comes very soon. The navigation, install, launching of applications I have previously run, again blows away any of my other phones.
Very elegant looking phone, nice design lines, I got the white model . It is pretty light this was my biggest surprise. The power/lock button location is in a fantastic position, the position on most other phones has caused me to loose grip on the phone and drop them on occasion.
I love the throw feature, where I can select My TV, Laptops to display my photos or play my phones contents, and then I can also send the media from any of these devices back to play on the phone, it works great, will be better once they fix the wifi issue.
5 inch in car GPS running Sygic, yeah that rocks!!!
The ability to play Playstation games is pretty cool, although I haven’t tried.
For me one of the best things is being able to back up your entire phone, and sync pretty much everything to your computer, something HTC does not have, nor does most other phone vendors.
Sound quality for audio playback through Walkman app is stunning through my beats headset, no digital encoding artifacts, custom EQ, all the instruments and voices are clearly reproduced, very little hissing noise if any. All of these things mentioned here, are far superior to the HTC Sensation XE, the first phone with Beats Audio.
Having root already just rocks, thanks guys for providing this method Goroh_kun, Bin4ry, Team FreeXperia

I just tried taking pics under water by XZ, it was fantastic.
Also I can't live without walkman.
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Tech.radar on viewing angles:
"The only thing that lets it down is viewing angles - if you look at the Sony Xperia Z's screen, dead on, it's sharp enough. If you look at it from the side, it has a strange ability to look incredibly washed out. It's no huge problem though - unless you like to look at things side on. In which case, see a doctor."
LoL! Totally agree!

The only very small thing that really annoys me is the 4x4 grid.
A display of this size and quality could be 6x5.
Everything else is spot on. Display is awesome, sound is superb, phone is fast and smooth at everything I throw at it.
And it looks great!
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All good here . Still under impression how much faster this thing is than my XS . Loving almost everything about it . We got bug free OS , amazing speed , great camera, great screen , lovely build quality ,battery life above my expectations,fast development by users ..etc. Sound with stock headphones is good ,but connect it with sennheiser ie8 and they give almost perfect combo. The only letdown is loudspeaker ,but i can easily live with that one

noj78 said:
The only very small thing that really annoys me is the 4x4 grid.
A display of this size and quality could be 6x5.
Everything else is spot on. Display is awesome, sound is superb, phone is fast and smooth at everything I throw at it.
And it looks great!
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If you don't like the 4x4 grid I'd recommend installing a third party launcher, I prefer the Apex one.
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Think this phone is fantastic.
Buid quality is one of the best I've ever felt on a phone.
The screen is top notch and all those moaning about viewing angles really are disturbed in my opinion. I look at my screen as intended, straight on, not look at it tilted or from the side, I never understood why you would.
The fact I can text in the shower or bath and not have to worry is great. I also had issues in the past with other devices letting dust in under the screen (HTC I'm looking at you), with this phone no need to worry.
Camera suits me for my needs.
Speed of the phone is never an issue, not had any lags or anything, smooth as butter. I know we have the SGS4 being released soon but do we really need octa core processors? Quad core is not even fully utilized so to have octa core just seems silly in my opinion.
Anyway love the phone and think it's a gem
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I have got nothing but good things to say about this handset. Great screen, great camera, loads of other great features. The only thing for me to be improved is battery life but it's far from bad it's just not good
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A phone is a personal device, as long as it looks beautiful in terms if it's design and makes you stand out from the others when you holding your phone, I think it is already doing its job!
Not to mention the Z is one of the top spec devices for now.
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The screen is the best...the screen is calibrated perfectly for true colours...just compared a same photo on the iphone 5's retina display and there were no difference...just switch the bravia engine off and look...i dont why every reviews say the display is not good while when reading the iphone 5 reviews they say its the best display in the market.
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And the camera is fantadtic in day light or good light...just in indoors the detail is little less but no ugly at all...it performs toe to toe with the iphone 5 in indoor photos in amount of detail..
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reptile64 said:
Tech.radar on viewing angles:
"The only thing that lets it down is viewing angles - if you look at the Sony Xperia Z's screen, dead on, it's sharp enough. If you look at it from the side, it has a strange ability to look incredibly washed out. It's no huge problem though - unless you like to look at things side on. In which case, see a doctor."
LoL! Totally agree!
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water resistance!!!

battery life is awful.
still can't get past the 3.5hour on screen time!

Sv: Lets give some praise to the Z
Had the Z for 24 hours. Love everything about it. Just got to adjust to the size, coming from a iphone 4s. Battery is great, all things considered. Got 5 hours screen time on first cycle. And it wasn't Even fully charged. 83% I think
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Let's go around the whole XDA forum and encourage people to buy Xperia Z

I have to say, Ive just tried the Z and am just loving it. Was waiting for the s4 announcement to decide but im def going for the z now. Just a bloody gorgeous device.

Just for those who say that lack of oleophobic coating is a deal breaker - who needs oleophobic coating when you can just put your phone under the tap and rinse it with water - clean as new

I don't know why so many people are having a go at the battery. I held both the XZ and the HTC One up, both screens look fantastic and have similar viewing angle issues, can get to around 40 degrees before the words start to get a bit blurry on both screens.

Looking to trade Sony Xperia Z for HTC One

I have had my Sony Xperia z for over a week now. I have been so impressed with the phone, it's speed, interface etc. The sound could be better but overall it's hard to complain. Defiantly the best phone I've owned.
Vodafone have kindly aloud me to trade my Xperia for the new HTC ONE at no cost or anything, straight swap. I know of HTC's recent poor history. My friends and family have had old HTC's (2/3 year old models) and they have been extremely poor in terms of reliability.
Just looking some opinions on the phones. I have read and watched many reviews on both phones and the HTC almost always comes out on top on each categorie (design, speed etc)
Considering it's a straight swap is it worth it and why. I'm a heavy phone user and I understand that phones with specs as close as these two are to each other that the differences is down to opinion. But would like some more expect (better knowledge or HTC ONE user help)
Thanks in advance
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I am seriously considering htc one over s4 as I am not one to follow the crowd and love something different
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My super technology literate friend recommended the S4 but gee will be keeping the Sony due to it pushing all his buttons. I can't wait a month (S4 release date) and won't be able to have a straight swap by then. The HTC reliability is his biggest concern.
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virtualyoda said:
I have had my Sony Xperia z for over a week now. I have been so impressed with the phone, it's speed, interface etc. The sound could be better but overall it's hard to complain. Defiantly the best phone I've owned.
Vodafone have kindly aloud me to trade my Xperia for the new HTC ONE at no cost or anything, straight swap. I know of HTC's recent poor history. My friends and family have had old HTC's (2/3 year old models) and they have been extremely poor in terms of reliability.
Just looking some opinions on the phones. I have read and watched many reviews on both phones and the HTC almost always comes out on top on each categorie (design, speed etc)
Considering it's a straight swap is it worth it and why. I'm a heavy phone user and I understand that phones with specs as close as these two are to each other that the differences is down to opinion. But would like some more expect (better knowledge or HTC ONE user help)
Thanks in advance
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It's funny, my opinion might be of value to you.
In February I made my choice: the Xperia Z. I got it at the end of February and owned it for about 4-5 days. Then I send it back, cancelled my order. Yes, I was very happy my carrier accepted it. Why did I do it? First of all, what I didn't like about the XZ:
• Ergonomics: the phone may not be much larger on paper then my S3, but in my hand it felt much less comfortable. Ergnomic wise, the XZ is bad: it's all look but not so much feel. Because of the shape it was just not comfortable for me to use, mostly one handed. Note: I do have small hands.
• The One: On the other hand, the HTC One is a pleasure to use. Just looking at it's curved back and sides, you already can conclude it's nice in the hand. My feeling has been confirmed by all the fantastic reviews about the One. And besides ergonomics, it's seen as the most beautiful/premium looking phone out now.
• The screen: while the XZ's screen was super sharp, there are some problems with it. I have owned my Galaxy S3 for a year, seen the HTC One X a ton of times, but the XZ's screen just seems "washed out" compared to these 2012 flagship's. You really see it when looking from a side (angle) at the XZ's screen: it just seems "washed out". While you can still see what the screen is displaying, this does give the feeling of a "non-premium" product. It bothered me.
• The One: The One's screen is considered one of the best, if not the best, screen out now at the moment. It's the sharpest screen (it won't be a huge difference with the XZ in this aspect), but it also has fantastic viewing angles and contrast. The screen just looks much better, no doubt. While it's 4.7" and smaller then the XZ's 5" screen, you actually see more content 90% of the time on the One. The XZ has onscreen buttons, which the One doesn't. So when webbrowsing, chatting, using your homescreen, etc, you will actually see more on the One then on the XZ. Overall: the One wins with a supperior screen.
These are the 2 main reasons I send back the XZ and waited for something else. Now I can go on by saying that the One has much better speakers, also better audio quality overall (check GSMArena, audio wise the One is fantastic). The One also comes with at least 32GB of storage, though the XZ has microsd card support. For me, the One's camera is also (probably) better because of the excellent low light performance (most picture I take are at party's when going out..).
I would say to you: do the ergonomics and the screen of the XZ bother you? If yes, go for the One!
ps: I'm not really scared about HTC. I owned an HTC HD2 and HTC Desire, before my Galaxy S2 and S3. Both HTC devices were great, expect that the HD2 ran Windows Mobile 6.5 and microsoft announched WP7 3 months after I bought the HD2 If I hadn't send back my XZ and I would be offered what you are being offered, I would go for it no doubt.
ps2: I'm not going for the S4 for several reasons. First of all, I have owned the S2 and S3 the past 2 years. I would really like something new. Second, expect a sharper screen, I won't notice I have a new mobile if I upgrade from the S3 -> S4. Further more, I don't like touchwiz and I am running Cyanogenmod on my S3. The CM team is not happy at all about the S4 and I don't see a CM-build for it anytime soon. So for me going from the S3 to the S4 would almost be a downgrade.. I know, it sounds stupid but it really feels that way.

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virtualyoda said:
My super technology literate friend recommended the S4 but gee will be keeping the Sony due to it pushing all his buttons. I can't wait a month (S4 release date) and won't be able to have a straight swap by then. The HTC reliability is his biggest concern.
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bad experiences?
ive owned
desire
desire hd
htc one s
htc one x
now the one.
the only one i ever found issue on was the one x,with the wifi. The desire and dhd were amazing phones.
ive got a weird issue with the htc one ive got,i think its a first batch? still regardless im getting another one. The s4..is the s4.you either like it or you dont. I still say the htc blows it out of the water. for sense alone comparable to touchwiz.
id say do the trade,although the xperia z is supposed to be a great phone. Probably down to which one you like the look of more than actual specifications. Although shelf life wise id say the htc one. Sony are already gearing up there next flagship which is weird considering the xperia z hasnt been out long.
i say do the trade.i was tempted with the z..but never had one of the newer generation smartphones..so decided against it.
best bet try the htc one in a shop

Thanks very much for your input. Very detailed and exceptionally helpful. Defiantly going for the trade. Super excited
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Thanks very much for your input. Very detailed and exceptionally helpful. Defiantly going for the trade. Super excited
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I was initially in the market for the xperia z until feb 19th..... htc one announcement and it only took me three minutes to test out the camera/video and audio on the htc one and cancel my pre order of xperia z.
since then I have played with both side by side and I think the main things of the phone are better on the One
camera (imo)
video/video audio
audio quality and volume
battery life is great on the one (havent heard good news from my friend who has the z (and is now going to change it for the htc one) and other people who have the z)
call quality and volume
speed
UI(imo)
look and feel (imo)
loud speakers

I've used both but had to choose one to keep. I kept the XZ.
The HTC had a better screen and much better speakers and that's something I was very impressed by. Even Sense and the optional flash player were an advantage.
However, I was not convinced by it's reliability when it came to the basics. By that I am specifically referring to the signal reception. In LTE it just does not hold well to the signal in poor reception areas as the XZ and the Nokia 920. I'm on EE so this could be different when Voda launch 4g as I believe they are on the 800 Mhz band.
The HTC is one of the best smartphones but once again HTC fail on mastering the basics. They have a beautifully engineered phone yet the wireless components are always questionable.
These 2 videos show what I mean by signal instability and fluctuations. Watch the 2 phones on the same network and the variance in signal strength. I've had such a poor experience with LTE on this phone and it dropped so many calls that has not happened once on the XZ which I am enjoying high speed and stability even on one bar of LTE. (also better battery).
It's a shame about the HTC but it may be fixed with a software update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kzW7G07WFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQO9VPu1FpM

I've owned several Sony, Samsung and htc products over the years and all have their shortcomings no doubt. None of created the "perfect" phone and nor will they ever.
Sony phone screen's always look washed out and ui sluggish and unfortunaletly Z is no different especially when comparing to S3, Note 2 and Htc One. That's been the biggest issue with Sony phones. I was tempted to get the Xperia Z because 5" 1080p, sd card, white colour but after playing with it I wasn't impressed, it reminded me of my Xperia T experience, which wasn't pleasant. Primarily sluggish, crashing and washed out colours.
HTC One on the other hand is a pleasure to use.
No lagging issues.
No crashing issues.
Sound is amazing, LOUD and clear.
Ui is brilliant and very different.
Camera is very good.
Screen is gorgeous, vibrant, bright and very sharp. Second to none far superior then Z.
Better reception, certainly better then S3, Note 2 and Sony T.
But what convinced me in getting HTC One, other the above mentioned points, rather then wait for S4 or Z was the premuim build, SLCD3 screen.
So good move mate you won't regret it.

Without a doubt trade it in and get the HTC One, myself and a mate (we're both technical geeks) found the screen on the Z lacking and the pinch and zoom gestures where hit and miss to say the least but let me push out a few points to you for why the one is for you ..
1. fast fluid and zero lag no matter how many apps are open
2. amazing screen with very good viewing angles
3. stunning audio (coming from a guy who doesn't really care about phone audio)
4. very clear call quality
5. camera can give very surprising results if used properly
6. 4 to 7 hours of screen on time
Bad points.
1. can get hot to the touch
2. can be slippy when holding it due to the metal back

daleski75 said:
Without a doubt trade it in and get the HTC One, myself and a mate (we're both technical geeks) found the screen on the Z lacking and the pinch and zoom gestures where hit and miss to say the least but let me push out a few points to you for why the one is for you ..
1. fast fluid and zero lag no matter how many apps are open
2. amazing screen with very good viewing angles
3. stunning audio (coming from a guy who doesn't really care about phone audio)
4. very clear call quality
5. camera can give very surprising results if used properly
6. 4 to 7 hours of screen on time
Bad points.
1. can get hot to the touch
2. can be slippy when holding it due to the metal back
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How hot are we talking.
And no lag even with heavy apps and low battery?

cronus101 said:
How hot are we talking.
And no lag even with heavy apps and low battery?
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Not hot enough that it is uncomfortable but it does get warm to the touch and not noticed any lag even with the battery almost flat.

daleski75 said:
Not hot enough that it is uncomfortable but it does get warm to the touch and not noticed any lag even with the battery almost flat.
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The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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ksarius said:
The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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Heaving gaming and every now and again from charging. The highest temp I measured was 40 degrees celcius

ksarius said:
The heat is under what circunstances? Playing games? Charging? Or it gets heat just by browsing, FB, etc?
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From charging the phone as I don't play games on it or from constant use but too be honest it's barely noticeable.

Thank you all for your super detailed and honest device. My HTC One comes tomorrow and i'm more than excited for it. I think I could have a mental problem when it comes to buying, selling and trading new things. I get bored easily and usually change my phone, console or whatever I can every 4-6months.
I cannot fault the XZ. When I get the One tomorrow im not going to be biased if it never faults me and say that the Sony XZ is a poor phone or anything like that. Im not one to use a camera that often, I prefer performance and sound and I feel the One has that.
I wouldn't be trading these phones if it came to any cost to me, don't think it would be worth the trade if it cost me £. There was also an update out today from HTC improve there One's camera in high-light. Glad to see issues being addressed quickly by HTC.
I have always been an iPhone fan but have seen the light and will be staying with android with this trade, and gladly so. Apple iOS is outdated and I couldnt believe the much 'jailbreaking' could be done with an android phone. Look forward to learning more by using ROM's etc to get the most out of my HTC One, I would aim to have the best possible battery endurance and processor speed etc.
If anyone has any knowledge of a current ROM or up coming ROM that is in development that they could recommend for the perks I have mentioned I'd be very grateful for those recommendations.
Thanks again, and I will be sure to give uses all a update on my opinions of the HTC One compared to the Sony XZ

Praise the phone. Don't hate it.

Have owned this handset for over a month. And well I love it more than ever. All to many people are over critical of speakers,the screen viewing angles(you should be locked up for viewing your phone side on by the way).. But anyway Sony have done a brilliant job designing and manufacturing such a beautiful handset that is WATER RESISTANT. Look at the majority of WATER RESISTANT handsets that have came before. They contain more rubber than a condom factory. On the speaker side of things most people want to much. I can hear my phone ring is thats it's primary function. Some speakers are bigger and louder but I'm sure that is down to the WATER RESISTANT ability of the phone. If I want to listen to music then I either use headphones or Jack it into my amp. I may just be easily pleased. But even comparing with my wife's S4 I still prefer this handset. By no means is it perfect. But the imperfections I can live with. The perfect handset has never or will never be created. Everything can be improved.Just my honest opinion.
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decadan1977 said:
Have owned this handset for over a month. And well I love it more than ever. All to many people are over critical of speakers,the screen viewing angles(you should be locked up for viewing your phone side on by the way).. But anyway Sony have done a brilliant job designing and manufacturing such a beautiful handset that is WATER RESISTANT. Look at the majority of WATER RESISTANT handsets that have came before. They contain more rubber than a condom factory. On the speaker side of things most people want to much. I can hear my phone ring is thats it's primary function. Some speakers are bigger and louder but I'm sure that is down to the WATER RESISTANT ability of the phone. If I want to listen to music then I either use headphones or Jack it into my amp. I may just be easily pleased. But even comparing with my wife's S4 I still prefer this handset. By no means is it perfect. But the imperfections I can live with. The perfect handset has never or will never be created. Everything can be improved.Just my honest opinion.
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The gimmick of water proofing can only go so far. If your coming from a premium device such as a Note II then you will be soley dissapointed with the camera lag, ui lag, sony's budget screen tech, annoying FLAPS, non removable anaemic battery etc.
Why does sony insist on giving its flagship phones such piss poor tft panels?
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Hardly a gimmick. Considering it was the deciding factor why I got it. I'm mounting bike nut. So I spend a lot of time on hills. So having a phone that works when it's wet is a plus and potentially a life saver. Where exactly is the gimmick in that? The camera lag is sorted by using nova launcher and running the camera as a shortcut in the activities tab. Opens almost instantly. The screen issue are you talking about viewing angles. Again why look at the thing side on. White balance again has a fix. What Sony don't do straight out of the box. The great devs on this great forum always find a way.
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akuma2012 said:
The gimmick of water proofing can only go so far. If your coming from a premium device such as a Note II then you will be soley dissapointed with the camera lag, ui lag, sony's budget screen tech, annoying FLAPS, non removable anaemic battery etc.
Why does sony insist on giving its flagship phones such piss poor tft panels?
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If you are happy with your note2 why you keep checking Xperia Z forum
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akuma2012 said:
The gimmick of water proofing can only go so far. If your coming from a premium device such as a Note II then you will be soley dissapointed with the camera lag, ui lag, sony's budget screen tech, annoying FLAPS, non removable anaemic battery etc.
Why does sony insist on giving its flagship phones such piss poor tft panels?
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A gimmick is useless content that just acts cool. IP57 is a life saver. The s4 has gimmicks like the eyescroll function.
It's cool at first but after a while you'll start thumbscrolling like everyone else.
I've gotta agree though - The Z has it's flaws There's no lag like you say... But a few small glitches and over processing camera (It's still better than the HTC one anyway.)

akuma2012 said:
The gimmick of water proofing can only go so far. If your coming from a premium device such as a Note II then you will be soley dissapointed with the camera lag, ui lag, sony's budget screen tech, annoying FLAPS, non removable anaemic battery etc.
Why does sony insist on giving its flagship phones such piss poor tft panels?
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What ever mate
It has been a pleasure to ditch the SGS3, HTC One X and Nexus 4 to use the Xperia Z. Still have the GS3 and One X sitting in my drawer. Sold the N4 a week after I got it in December for a profit! After reading all the negative reviews, thought I might regret my purchase. Not a chance. SIM hasn't left the Z.
The ONLY time I've needed to remove a battery is ironically on Samsung devices when they freeze up every other day lol.
Not one reboot, freeze or ISSUE with this Sony device.
Next.
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gm007 said:
If you are happy with your note2 why you keep checking Xperia Z forum
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The mere existence of threads like these occur when a significant amout of users are dissatisfied with a product. You wont find such dissatisfaction on the note II forum. I am trying to guide you to the right direction.
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decadan1977 said:
Hardly a gimmick. Considering it was the deciding factor why I got it. I'm mounting bike nut. So I spend a lot of time on hills. So having a phone that works when it's wet is a plus and potentially a life saver. Where exactly is the gimmick in that? The camera lag is sorted by using nova launcher and running the camera as a shortcut in the activities tab. Opens almost instantly. The screen issue are you talking about viewing angles. Again why look at the thing side on. White balance again has a fix. What Sony don't do straight out of the box. The great devs on this great forum always find a way.
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Ultimately you can get a case for a phone which will protect it against the elements. If sony wanted to make the feature useful it should have made the phone chargable by using a mat so that the flaps did not have to keep being opened.
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OsiBasi said:
A gimmick is useless content that just acts cool. IP57 is a life saver. The s4 has gimmicks like the eyescroll function.
It's cool at first but after a while you'll start thumbscrolling like everyone else.
I've gotta agree though - The Z has it's flaws There's no lag like you say... But a few small glitches and over processing camera (It's still better than the HTC one anyway.)
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While I agree that the gs4 has alot of gimmicks samsung should be praised for at least innovating and try new things. Give me an improving eye scroll abillity anyday over ugly plastic flaps.
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akuma2012 said:
The mere existence of threads like these occur when a significant amout of users are dissatisfied with a product. You wont find such dissatisfaction on the note II forum. I am trying to guide you to the right direction.
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Ultimately you can get a case for a phone which will protect it against the elements. If sony wanted to make the feature useful it should have made the phone chargable by using a mat so that the flaps did not have to keep being opened.
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While I agree that the gs4 has alot of gimmicks samsung should be praised for at least innovating and try new things. Give me an improving eye scroll abillity anyday over ugly plastic flaps.
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It's not about people are not satisfied with XZ but it's about too many trolls and jealous peoples
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I bought my xz mainly was because of its elegant modern design.
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To be honest, saying that Note II is cool and XZ isn't because of ABC goes to nowhere. You never know the background and intentions of people who bought this phone, so do we really need such threads? I'm leaving this open, but I would really appreciate some solid discussion taking place.

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If you are happy with your note2 why you keep checking Xperia Z forum
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I have heard that some is paid to do so and bashing
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akuma2012 said:
The gimmick of water proofing can only go so far. If your coming from a premium device such as a Note II then you will be soley dissapointed with the camera lag, ui lag, sony's budget screen tech, annoying FLAPS, non removable anaemic battery etc.
You wont find such dissatisfaction on the note II forum
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Note 2 ? A Premium device ? Seriously ? With it's burn-in susceptible grainy screen, cheap plastic build that actually bends under your finger and squeeks when you squeeze it ? With defective eMMC chip resulting in few hundreds random brick even here on XDA, sudden death, exynos abuse and abysmal software with no sources, bugs impossible to solve by devs and stock UI that fits a kindergarten toy, but certainly not a high-end smartphone ?
Sorry for this rant, but I've owned Note 1 and 2 and was hugely disappointed to see that Note 1's problems not only didn't get solved, but actually more of them appeared and Samsung did NOTHING to solve them, and that was a real pain for me as Galaxy Note was probably my biggest love in smartphones world since the original iPhone.
Anyway, on the topic, water resistance is not a gimmick. The fact that you don't really need it - doesn't mean it's a gimmick. It's a very useful feature helping to save your phone from death as well as giving you a peace of mind while using your phone in the rain etc. I won't comment the rest, because yes, camera has lag, the ui lags sometimes - but if you're saying that this is a disappointment after Note 2, then there's no point in discussion...
Second part - I've spent a LOT of time in Note 2 forums and the level of dissatisfaction was enormous... especially with sudden death issues, exynos bug, devs moving away from Samsung devices, note 2 never getting stable release of CM ( like Note 1 ), some bugs that will never get fixed etc.
Back to discussion with actual XZ owners - did you have any problems with WiFi performance ? Mine performs terrible but I have an engineer appointment to get a Superpowered Fibre set up - they'll give me a new router and I hope it might solve it as many people said this ( new router ) solved their problems. Any experiences in this area ?

I didn't expect rants.
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[Comparison] HTC One vs Samsung Galaxy S4

This looks like one of the hot comparisions out there right now. Many of you are probably wondering if you should get the One or S4. I was in the same boat as some of you guys before buying the HTC One. I had been using a nexus 4 which felt fast and good in hand, but after breaking the screen and getting quoted $250 to fix it, i decided to buy a new one. I didn't even look at any phones other than the HTC One, Galaxy S4 and XPeria Z. I removed the XPeria Z from my list after hearing that the snapdragon s4 feels laggy on the 1080p screen and the screen is a little washed out compared to the other two. It was really hard to choose from the remaining two, but here are things that i thought were pros and cons of both phones:
Galaxy S4 Pros:
- Has SD Slot
- Has Removable Battery
- Processor is clocked 200MHz higher at 1.9GHz (Doesn't make much difference)
- AirView is pretty cool and would be pretty useful if more apps implemented (I don't think the API is open though)
- Faster unofficial updates since Google announced they would be providing updates for the stock version of GS4 which means the roms can be ported faster.
Galaxy S4 Cons:
- Doesn't have a premium feel with plastic polycarbonate body (the phone's plastic felt like the plastic used on my motorcycle's helmet)
- Has too many gimicky features that just take up space but you can never use (the eye tracking features are useless at night or where there is no perfect lighting, Air gestures are not practical for most people.)
- Only 16GB of internal storage (at the moment), and only about 10 GB is free for users to use, which means you cannot download apps that are more than that on size. Almost all big games on the android market are at least 1GB and can go up to 3, and if you install like 5 or 6 of them, you will be pretty close to running out of storage for apps.
- When i held the device on my hand, it felt slimey (its kind of hard to explain) as if it was dipped in some kind of oil.
- Phone speaker is tiny. I don't listen to music through the speakers, but while trying my friends GS4's speakerphone to call while driving, i felt like the volume was little too low.
- TouchWiz is really cluttered. I checked how many apps that i didn't need were installed by default, and there were more than 20 apps that i would never use.
- Periodic Jitters. The phone seemed to freeze up for a quarter of second randomly while using the phone. And sometimes the UI would totally skip animations. These aren't big things, but they make the user experience feel less fun.
HTC One Pros:
- Smooth aluminum finish definitely makes the device feel premium in hand and gives overall better hand feeling.
- Ultrapixel camera works great at low light conditions.
- The infrared blaster merged into the power button just makes the device look less cluttered.
- The PPI is the higest out of anything i have ever used. The display is so sharp that it looks like you are looking at a printed photo when you are looking at the picture on the phone.
- HTC Sense 5 is great. I was always an aosp fan, but they have optmised sense so much that i like sense better than stock now.
- Boomsound speakers are great. I never thought i would be using speakers to watch videos on my phone, but the boom sound speakers are so loud and clear that i like using them over my $200+ headphones while watching movies and videos. The speakers are something that you will not notice how good they are unless you actually use them. Head down to a Sprint or Tmobile or ATT store and try it out.
- Beats Audio sounded like a gimmick at first, but it surprisingly works really well. Some songs sound so much better with beats turned on.
- It has a built in amp for the speakers, which helps the speakers perform really good.
- It is iPhone smooth. No matter what you guys say, i had never used an android phone that could match iphone's smoothness before using the htc one. The galaxy s4 is smooth, but the one feels a lot more smoother than the s4 when using side by side.
- Call Quality seemed much much better than S4 on my tests.
HTC One Cons:
- No Removable Battery. This definitely sucks.
- No SD Slot.
- Still uses 4.1.2 instead of latest version.
- Only 4 MP camera. Way more than enough on daily use, but if you want to print a photo in really large size, you might want to look for a real camera.
- It's almost impossible to repair.
Well these were pros and cons from my tests. I ended up buying the HTC one after a long research. Here are some deciding factors and solutions for HTC one's cons that made me get the HTC:
- The One came with 32 GB which was enough for me. And since i have good network and unlimited data with tmobile, i could always use cloud storage if i needed more.
- The One supports USB OTG like the S4 which means after buying a $1 cable from ebay, i could just plug in my USB flash drive and watch movies and other things from there. This would save me internal space, and i could always use the usb if i wanted to watch a movie. This would compensate the non removable storage in the HTC One.
- The non removable battery in the HTC One sucks, but according to a lot of reviews it would last for a day with moderate use which was good enough for me.
- The non removable battery problems could be solved by portable chargers.
- Even though the battery is non replaceable in the HTC One, i don't think i will need to replace it for at least 2 years, and i wont be using this phone for more than 2 years. The battery is rated for charging cycles of 1000 times. This means even if you charge and discharge your phone completely 3 times in two days (which we don't normally do), the phone would easily last 2 years. And the 1000 times rating is the minimum rating, the battery could last even longer.
- The One has much more premium feel in hand compared to the S4. If you hold both in hands at the same time, you can totally feel the difference.
- Samsung's 16GB internal storage feels like too low for apps. Since you can only use 10GB out of the 16, i feel like i am going to run out of internal storage pretty quick.'
- The Audio quality from headphone port as well as the speakers is much better than the S4. I tried both side by side and One was far better in terms or audio quality.
- The display in HTC One seemed better than the S4 probably because of the higher PPI or samsung's use of pentile display tech. You wouldn't notice this if you were just using one of the phones, but if you had both phones side by side, the difference was noticable.
- The display on the HTC One works much better on sunlight compared to the Galaxy s4's OLED display. The difference is pretty big.
- I noticed that most pictures that i took with my phone were in low light situations. HTC One was much better in low light, even when the Galaxy S4's night mode was turned on.
- I actually liked the looks of HTC's sense compared to Touchwiz. Touchwiz just feels cartoonish compared to Sense.
Let me know if there are any pros or cons or any of the phones that i missed to mention above.
P.S. I am pretty biased towards the HTC one on the last part (deciding factors) since those were the reasons i got one instead of other. But i've tried to be as fair as possible on the pros and cons.
Update: Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41502507&postcount=27

Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Fstall303 said:
Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Honestly, both phones are pretty similar in terms of performance specs. But its the tiny little things that make a big difference. Try both phones and don't make your decision based on the fact that verizon doesn't have the one yet. Since sprint already got the CDMA version, verizon should be getting one pretty soon.

Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 degrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.

Tom-Helge said:
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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And if you would think about what you just posted, you'd know that heat dissapation is a good thing. Both phones have more or less the same processor, so they heat up about equally. The heat you feel on metal means that the heat is getting sucked away from processor and other electronics inside, preventing them from overheating. :good:

Tom-Helge said:
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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hey mate i been using htc one for 2 month and i wanna correct you even i watching movie and playing asphalt 7 or nova or modern combat
my battery highest rate will go till 41 degree and i never feel hot or watsoever just warm if u going to ask me how the hell i check now i teach u guys and that dont know just press *#*#4636#*#* if the device battery heat higher than 48degree will be consider defected battery as what HTC service center told me.lastly im not a HTC fanboy i own samsung s3 previous and my sister own s4 now,we compare side by side and my sister said wanna sell of s4 and get HTC one no offense and peace

OP, as you can see by reading the sticky by jotha in this very section, comparison threads aren't allowed in this forum.

Tom-Helge said:
You can't see ANY differences from 441 PPI to 468 PPI with the naked eye. It's that simple. You are only imagine in your head that you actually are seeing differences. But in reality, you don't. You can't see any differences here before you gets the screens under a microscope.
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Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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gutrrob said:
Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.

Tom-Helge said:
Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.

gutrrob said:
The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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Sorry if I'll make you upset or something but IMO the iphone 5 screen is one of the best LCD's out there.
It has excellent calibration, sunlight visibility is superior to everything out there (even better than HTC one), excellent viewing angles and very high (maybe even the highest) contrast among mobile LCD displays.
Yes, the SLCD3 (of Samsung and Sony) in the HTC one is excellent but it's not perfect and the only place it's superior to the iphone 5's screen is ppi. Other than that, it's on par or inferior.
Check it yourself, and I know I'll be backed up by you and any other person who've seen the iphone 5's in person.
BTW, I still prefer the HTC one display over the iphone 5 display.

Tom-Helge said:
When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.
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Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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gutrrob said:
Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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If iphone 5's screen superior (or on par) than the HTC one's screen than we can bring comparisons (that already made) between him and the S4 instead of the s4 against HTC one which we don't have professional comparisons unless you count the GSMArena comparison (for example) which gave the s4 the winning spot in the screen part:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php

sindresv said:
Tom-Helge:
Why do you come here and try to destroy a perfectly good thread? The OP was trying to help others in the same situation as he was in, and he was not blindly butchering the S4. He had many valid points both pro and cons on both devices, so I don't really see the problem.
You tell us the One's screen isn't that good compared to the S4, but yet the only phone you compare it to is the iPhone 5. I struggel to see your point as this isn't an iPhone 5 VS One thread.
And for the dark screen on the S4: when you compare phones, you have to do it in stock condition. Not everyone roots and flashes.. In fact most people don't..
I still don't get the fuzz over the battery not being able to be changed. I personally have never had the need to change a bettery, and neither have any of my friends.
I guess this thread will be closed, but I kind of liked it and found it useful
Ind just for your information: yes, the One gets a bit hot, but it's never been a problem holding it, and far from any discomfort!
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No, there's no a problem in showing the pros and cons of the devices but the list the OP listed is total biased towards the HTC one.
Almost all of the cons of the galaxy s4 and the pros of the HTC one was a matter of opinion and preference.
So yes, it's good for non-techy people to have such thread but not as biased toward the HTC one as this thread is.

Tom-Helge said:
I'm not destroying this topic. I'm correcting some points the op talked about witch isn't true.
When wasn't that allowed to do?
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The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Is there any reason that the only people who think that are owners of a S4?

EclipzeRemix said:
The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Have you seen the professional test of displaymate? The s4 (in movie mode) have accurate colors.
The "diamond" pentile use different sizes for each subpixel so in the end you can get accurate colors and in movie mode it actually have accurate colors as stated in displaymate tests.

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None of your points have been valid, and when you realise that, you just bring in another phone to compare it with...
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So my links that explains why the Galaxy S4 screen is that good as i say isn't any valid points?
I bring in the iPhone 5 because it have been the mainstreamphone to compare other screen on other phones to, because the iPhone 5 screen is pretty mu7ch one of the best screens out there (untilk proven wrong).

The fact that the display is perfect in some situations doesn't change the fact that it is s**t in other key functions. Not being able to use chrome is kind of a big deal for many people!
And you showed us a link telling us that the S4 display is s**t when browsing. Is that explaining how good it is?