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OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
brettbellaire said:
...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
bigmout said:
I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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kmiloco49 said:
Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
zmalach said:
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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I have a Canadian S4 and rooted using the twrp method and then installed the vigin google play edition rom. Everything worked fine at first when I installed it but i was fiddling around after in twrp and thought i should format the internal storage and start completely fresh and now if I install any rom including my original backup the device will boot up into the system fine for the first time but if the device resets after that it just hangs on the galaxy S4 logo and i have to reboot into recovery and flash again. Any ideas on how i could fix this? Thanks!!!
Try this, in twrp go into advanced wipe and wipe dalvik cache, cache, system, data and android secure. Then flash your nandroid.
I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup
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I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup
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That is a nandroid.
Dont use TWRP for the S4
From what I have experience and I believe others have as well, if you used TWRP to format where you had to type yes, you are pretty much screwed trying to get things working properly again. Maybe it is certain phones, sd cards, roms, who knows, but after I typed yes in TWRP to format everything, I could flash a rom but couldnt restart and things were buggy. I had to use odin to flash back to stock, re-root and flash the rom again. Now everything is 190% considering my battery life went from 6 hours to 28 with medium usage.
I have always loved TWRP on my other phones, but for the S4, its more frustration and using with caution than its worth.
Another word of caution, use windows to fix your phone. Im on linux and its too much of a pain in the ass to use odin/heimdall to go back to stock for newbs. On windows I went to stock and rooted again in no time.
Good luck!
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That is a nandroid.
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After doing that stuff in twrp should I flash right back to my backup of stock touch wiz or straight into the ROM of my choosing? Whenever I would have to reflash I would have to format he internal memory or it wouldn't work
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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You might have to. I had the same problem today where if the phone rebooted I would just get a black screen. I ended up using Odin with the stock rom, reinstalling twrp and then restoring my backup. I'm pretty sure it was a rom I flashed that caused the initial problem and only Odin would clear things up.
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Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.
ericchaffey said:
Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.
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Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
Now the only problem is i have to find a Fido ROM
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Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
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A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.
ericchaffey said:
A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.
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Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!
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Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!
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I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.
jd1639 said:
I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.
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ya even they dont have a specific "Fido" firmware...
Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company
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Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company
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It'll work. It'll just put their bloatware on and the boot animation will be theirs
Reflashed
Ok so i reflashed to the stock rom using odin and bam it works again, im just wondering what is a good way now too root, and install the same rom i had
This will have everything you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order
Jaygrippa said:
Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order
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Glad to here it. Have fun.
Hi all,
I'm currently on Android 4.2.2 (rooted, UK version, SIM unlocked) and would like update to 4.3.
My Baseband version is I9505XXUAMDM.
Does anyone know which rom file I should use? I'd like to retain root permissions if possible and to use an original (or close as possible) Samsung rom.
Many thanks
Jez_ said:
Hi all,
I'm currently on Android 4.2.2 (rooted, UK version, SIM unlocked) and would like update to 4.3.
My Baseband version is I9505XXUAMDM.
Does anyone know which rom file I should use? I'd like to retain root permissions if possible and to use an original (or close as possible) Samsung rom.
Many thanks
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I'm basically in the same boat as you mate!
I have the same setup and need the same as you, only I have philz recovery installed.
If you find out please let me know.
Thanks
philipkroberts said:
I'm basically in the same boat as you mate!
I have the same setup and need the same as you, only I have philz recovery installed.
If you find out please let me know.
Thanks
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I ended up using this which I'm really liking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352258
And the 'Battery Percentage 1 & Semi Transparent Status Bar' from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408258
Jez_ said:
I ended up using this which I'm really liking: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352258
And the 'Battery Percentage 1 & Semi Transparent Status Bar' from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408258
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So you were stuck on the XXUAMDM build and simply followed the instructions on the link you gave and all is working well?
Also I have philz recovery, is this an issue or can this be used instead of CWM?
Thanks
philipkroberts said:
So you were stuck on the XXUAMDM build and simply followed the instructions on the link you gave and all is working well?
Also I have philz recovery, is this an issue or can this be used instead of CWM?
Thanks
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Yes I was on the I9505XXUAMDM version (see attached image) and just followed the instructions EXCEPT I didn't use ClockworkMod, I'm using 'TWRP Recovery'. I downloaded the 'GALAXY S4 Google Play Edition 4.3 v1.3 CoOoL_BoY.zip' file, placed it on my memory card, booted in to TWRP, wiped the parts as instructed, then ran the installer. All worked nicely!
I backed it all up first (mostly using titanium backup pro), then restored the programs/program data from it after, so I was up and running pretty quickly after.
Jez_ said:
Yes I was on the I9505XXUAMDM version (see attached image) and just followed the instructions EXCEPT I didn't use ClockworkMod, I'm using 'TWRP Recovery'. I downloaded the 'GALAXY S4 Google Play Edition 4.3 v1.3 CoOoL_BoY.zip' file, placed it on my memory card, booted in to TWRP, wiped the parts as instructed, then ran the installer. All worked nicely!
I backed it all up first (mostly using titanium backup pro), then restored the programs/program data from it after, so I was up and running pretty quickly after.
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Thanks, I shall give that a go then
Philz recovery is basically CWM, so as far as I'm aware you can also run the zip from within philz, However can anyone confirm this?
Sorry to hijack the thread by the way!
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Also when you backed up with titanium pro did you choose to do the batch operation and backup system settings and apps or just the apps?
Thanks
philipkroberts said:
Thanks, I shall give that a go then
Philz recovery is basically CWM, so as far as I'm aware you can also run the zip from within philz, However can anyone confirm this?
Sorry to hijack the thread by the way!
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Also when you backed up with titanium pro did you choose to do the batch operation and backup system settings and apps or just the apps?
Thanks
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I backed up the apps and their settings (but ignored the system apps). Good luck
So I installed the rom and it is more stable but is still crashing alot!
In Philz recovery when you wipe/factory reset there are two options:
Wipe/factory reset
Clean for a new rom
In guessing I should have chose the clean for a new rom option? I mean the phone still has some of my old data on it so I'm sure something went wrong.
I'm debating just flashing to stock rom and giving up! cab anyone suggest anything?
Cheers
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philipkroberts said:
So I installed the rom and it is more stable but is still crashing alot!
In Philz recovery when you wipe/factory reset there are two options:
Wipe/factory reset
Clean for a new rom
In guessing I should have chose the clean for a new rom option? I mean the phone still has some of my old data on it so I'm sure something went wrong.
I'm debating just flashing to stock rom and giving up! cab anyone suggest anything?
Cheers
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Yeah you should have chosen the 'Clean for new rom' option. It's likely crashing as it still has settings/files left behind that aren't compatible with your new rom. Mine has been very stable since the upgrade, so it's worth trying again with a proper wipe
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Yeah you should have chosen the 'Clean for new rom' option. It's likely crashing as it still has settings/files left behind that aren't compatible with your new rom. Mine has been very stable since the upgrade, so it's worth trying again with a proper wipe
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So it turns out the battery is ruined on the phone, I thought it was the rom initally and I will give it a fresh install when I can.
In the press samsung have stated that some S4 batteries are faulty, Mine has swollen up and the phone no longer lies flat!
Also it only holds charge for about 20 mins!
Anyhow, I have spoken to the local service centre and I can get a free replacement, good news, however will I have to flash my phone back to stock firmware? Or is my warranty still good?
I can borrow a friends battery and flash back to stock fw but will I need to do this or can I just go ahead and flash back on my rom of choice?
I'v never overclocked the phone or played with any battery voltage settings etc, so I think it must be a genuine faulty batch.
Any suggestions?
philipkroberts said:
So it turns out the battery is ruined on the phone, I thought it was the rom initally and I will give it a fresh install when I can.
In the press samsung have stated that some S4 batteries are faulty, Mine has swollen up and the phone no longer lies flat!
Also it only holds charge for about 20 mins!
Anyhow, I have spoken to the local service centre and I can get a free replacement, good news, however will I have to flash my phone back to stock firmware? Or is my warranty still good?
I can borrow a friends battery and flash back to stock fw but will I need to do this or can I just go ahead and flash back on my rom of choice?
I'v never overclocked the phone or played with any battery voltage settings etc, so I think it must be a genuine faulty batch.
Any suggestions?
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Nope you can leave the phone software as is, it's only the battery that's at issue. If they want to see the phone just say it's private and you don't want them looking at it. Maybe even take the battery out in front of them as you're talking at the counter so that the phone is turned off, and they have the battery to instantly look at. Should be an obvious / easy swap out for them...
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Nope you can leave the phone software as is, it's only the battery that's at issue. If they want to see the phone just say it's private and you don't want them looking at it. Maybe even take the battery out in front of them as you're talking at the counter so that the phone is turned off, and they have the battery to instantly look at. Should be an obvious / easy swap out for them...
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Thanks Jez! You've been very helpful!
Well tomorrow my plan is to get the battery replaced, then flash it with that rom listed earlier, It was nice and smooth looking, a shame it didnt have Contacts & Music apps however no biggie, Very nice rom
Thanks
philipkroberts said:
Thanks Jez! You've been very helpful!
Well tomorrow my plan is to get the battery replaced, then flash it with that rom listed earlier, It was nice and smooth looking, a shame it didnt have Contacts & Music apps however no biggie, Very nice rom
Thanks
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No worries, good luck! It does have the default Google 'People' app, which is the same as the Contacts one. And for music I installed the Google 'Play Mucic' app which isn't bad. The only thing I miss from the Samsung 'TouchWiz' rom is their camera app.
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No worries, good luck! It does have the default Google 'People' app, which is the same as the Contacts one. And for music I installed the Google 'Play Mucic' app which isn't bad. The only thing I miss from the Samsung 'TouchWiz' rom is their camera app.
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I didn't know the People app was the same, cheers for that
I went for winamp but tbh its layout is awful and I found it very buggy that and my phone battery was already swollen up! haha.
Will report back with results!
thanks once again.
Got a new battery and not had any issues with the rom at all, only issues I did find was that having my SIM PIN enabled got the phone stuck when it booted, I had to take my sim out and put it in my girlfriends phone to disable the sim lock, after that no issues.
I'm in two minds of if I should reflash it or not tho as it now has a **** ton of my apps, I have used titatnium backup before but I find it to copy my buggy software and back it up then reloading it on my new rom hahah!
But a fresh flash might set it straight for longer avoiding me any future headaches... hahah
Anyhow thanks for all the advice.
Peace
Im not rich or I would have got a newer version tablet by now, but if anyone who helps has a donate button I have no issue donating a couple dollars to the person who helps me get this done, Thanks. Or just a couple dollar PP gift. better than nothing I guess.
I just want to be sure I dont mess anything up here. I have a nexus 7 wifi model.
I used NRT to unlock and root and all seems fine. Am I correct in this:
I use nandroid backup to backup first
Put ROM file on device (where do I put it?)
Wipe (is this done via nexus root toolkit or is ok do do in the custom recovery?)
Then what, boot into recovery and find the ROM and install it via recovery install button?
Then do I do the same with a kernal? Where do I put it?
Then done?
I know there are guides around but for a complete newbie I need to be sure cause I dont always see a complete fully explained step by step. Just like when I was stock not getting SU to work after rooting via nrt, I did read to flash SuperSU.zip, but had no idea how, then when I found the file and thought maybe install from recovery meant same as flash, I didnt know the message about messing the device up was normal so I was afraid at first.
THANKS to any replies,
Been unsure for days now trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before i commit to a ROM/Kernal. I want to CPU control for both under and overclocking etc. Mainly overclock just a little. I must say I love root already, got stuff to work I couldn't before
1. Create nandroid- there's a free app called something like nandroid on line - very simple to use
1a. I'd also recommend backing up with titanium backup app. It means you can keep your app data (e.g. game progress) when switching between ROMs, unlike a nandroid which is just a backup of your device as a restorable image
2. Put ROM file on device - ROM will be a .zip file, out it wherever you want, as long as you remember where it is
3. Put kernel anywhere on device - easiest to find a kernel with .zip format (recommend M-kernel)
4. Wipe - from custom recovery
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
Install from recovery and flash are the same thing.
I'd recommend only flashing ROM or kernel and sticking with that set up for a few days, then flashing the other desired element. That way, if anything goes wrong then it's easier to pinpoint.
Good luck!!
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THANKS! Don't see a donate button, did you want anything?
No, of course not! God luck!
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butler0607 said:
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
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Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.
Pirateghost said:
Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.
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If I just want root access and overclock should i just flash kernal and forget a rom?
can i revert back to stock kernal if need to? ask cause need to find a kernal that has V4L enabled for a usb camera app i use currently to use an inspection camera via usb on my tablet. I guess i need to read what various roms and kernals add. do i need to do both. Hard to know what to pick out of them, lol.
Thanks for advice.
Anyone know of a list to show ROMs with V4L enabled? None seem to mention it?
I have read and see different suggestions around on various sites. What all do I wipe? I have read cache, dalvik cache, plus other stuff. What all must I wipe before flashing a rom or kernel? I did a nandroid backup already.
PirateGhost, Ill donate a couple dollars if you help, thanks.
Thanks.
When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.
When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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Pirateghost said:
When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.
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Thanks! Ill donate a couple dollars later today when I get back from the doctor.
I have not put any customs ROM(s) on yet, so is it the same still? All I have done so far is unlock/root with custom recovery and nandroid backup....
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When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too.
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Yeah I backed up the one app I needed to via TB, I just recently unlocked and rooted so lost most app data anyway and have only added one back so far. Thanks.
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When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.
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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.
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Thanks, Ill donate a couple bucks. had bad day yesterday so wasn't on much.
Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?
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Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?
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I have no idea what this means.
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I have no idea what this means.
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Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.
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Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.
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Not forgot about you, had family issues, holiday etc, well did forget but I'll look into why it does that and figure it out. Sorry for delay.
Hey, so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing Android, so please forgive me if I come accross "ignorant" or generally childish. I bought a galaxy note 3 the other day and researched what rooting did. After getting convince that rooting was "awesome," I actually managed to root. I also played with some Xposed modules because they were fairly simple and cool. After more research, I found out that Verizon had a locked bootloader which prevented me from using any other roms? I also read that verizon/att users can use safestrap but i couldn't exactly find some specifics for it. So whats the disadvantages of safestrap? Do specific roms have to be used?
Another concern, I'd like to get a faster rom than stock touchwiz, but i'd also like to find a rom that can use ART runtime as well as maintaining a nice multi window feature. I tried XHaloFloatingWindow and another xposed module, and I can't say I was pleased with them compared to the touchwiz one. I'd also like to maintain S-pen features? Does anybody know of any roms that may come close to fitting most of these topics?
Final, completely random question, The lg g3 has this lockscreen widget where when it rains out, drops of water will cover/slide down the entire lock screen on top of your notifications. I thought this was awesome, but wasn't sure if it was possible to get on a note 3.
Anyways, Hope to get some simple answers
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Hey, so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting and customizing Android, so please forgive me if I come accross "ignorant" or generally childish. I bought a galaxy note 3 the other day and researched what rooting did. After getting convince that rooting was "awesome," I actually managed to root. I also played with some Xposed modules because they were fairly simple and cool. After more research, I found out that Verizon had a locked bootloader which prevented me from using any other roms? I also read that verizon/att users can use safestrap but i couldn't exactly find some specifics for it. So whats the disadvantages of safestrap? Do specific roms have to be used?
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Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Another concern, I'd like to get a faster rom than stock touchwiz, but i'd also like to find a rom that can use ART runtime as well as maintaining a nice multi window feature. I tried XHaloFloatingWindow and another xposed module, and I can't say I was pleased with them compared to the touchwiz one. I'd also like to maintain S-pen features? Does anybody know of any roms that may come close to fitting most of these topics?
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Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Final, completely random question, The lg g3 has this lockscreen widget where when it rains out, drops of water will cover/slide down the entire lock screen on top of your notifications. I thought this was awesome, but wasn't sure if it was possible to get on a note 3.
Anyways, Hope to get some simple answers
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Not sure about this one...
Not sure about your specific questions, as I don't use multiwindow or the other features you listed. But I thought I would point out, what method of root did you use? Make sure of what system your running at this point. beans or kitkat? You will have to select a rom based on that. Or vice versa, re-root if you find a rom that you prefer thats running different android version. Either one will run safestrap obviously, since there are roms for each. You will find pros and cons to each. The con that I'm currently experiencing on kitkat that has me thinking about going back is I can't seem to find a modem that will get me decent reception so I'm assuming at this point that its kitkat thats causing it. Just something more for you to research. Being new to it, you've got ALOT of material to read about. But if you've already rooted, sounds like you've got a decent idea of the process. For me, tutorial videos were a life saver
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Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Not sure about this one...
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Alright so perhaps you can help me with just a few more concerns. I researched roms and such. I successfully downloaded safestrap, made a backup of my stock rom and put it on mycomputer. I also made a backup with titanium backup before that and it is also on the computer. I am looking at hyperdrive or jasminerom for the note 3. On there, it explains normal directions to install, but then it says to flash with odin, but when I read something about a tutorial how to install cutom roms on a website "Galaxynote3root" (I can't post the URL yet, says i'll be spamming) , it explained nothing of odin. What is odin? is it mandatory? Does my phone have it by default? hm.... Also i have a build number of NC4, does that build not work with NC2? sorry for inconvenience or annoying noobish questions. Thanks if you respond
So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.
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Safestrap is as close to a custom recovery as we'll get, right now. Due to our bootloader, stock based rom are all we can use. However, we are not stuck with one rom. Check in the dev threads for roms compatible with your device. Also check the dev and general threads for more info on rooting, safestrap, and how to flash roms.
Art not available for us. Only stock based. See my recommendation above for other roms. There are a few with some pretty cool features and add-ons!
Not sure about this one...
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So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.
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Well i rooted my phone via towelroot. I got safestrap hooked up and installed, so in other words when i reboot, yes it does have the splash screen. I am on kitkat as well. but do i need to install some sort of odin or something? sorry
I think as long as the rom's op says it's based on nc2 or nc4, you should be good. You should not need to worry about odin, since you're already on kk.
Since you're new, I'd suggest not touching the stock slot. It gives you a fall back if something goes wrong. Make sure you understand using safestrap, and start trying some stuff out.
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So being on Kitkat, did you use the beans method that installed a rom with root basically built in already? And by saying you downloaded safestrap, is it successfully installed? When you boot the phone, do you get the safestrap bootup screen allowing to go into recovery?
If you've already gotten that far, your pretty well set to install either of those roms.
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Sounds like he rooted the nc4 with towelroot, cuz he started on nc4. And sounds like ss is working for him, if he's made a backup.
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I think as long as the rom's op says it's based on nc2 or nc4, you should be good. You should not need to worry about odin, since you're already on kk.
Since you're new, I'd suggest not touching the stock slot. It gives you a fall back if something goes wrong. Make sure you understand using safestrap, and start trying some stuff out.
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Okay thanks, that boosts my confidence a bit! I'm just afraid of bricking my phone, as any noobie should be.
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Okay thanks, that boosts my confidence a bit! I'm just afraid of bricking my phone, as any noobie should be.
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Good man.
If you find something that you don't know or understand, search that thread for an answer. Then ask if you don't find an answer. And always try to give any other details you think might help.
As long as you remember search is your friend first...then ask...you will almost always find people to help you out!
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Good man.
If you find something that you don't know or understand, search that thread for an answer. Then ask if you don't find an answer. And always try to give any other details you think might help.
As long as you remember search is your friend first...then ask...you will almost always find people to help you out!
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alright alright I'm very sorry for this final question as I actually have tried to search for this but only got comparisons between titanium backup and safestrap. So, if I were to make a titanium backup right now, after the fact that i made a safestrap backup or installation, will that effect anything? I'm really really sorry if these questions are beyond beginner, I just like to play it safe.
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alright alright I'm very sorry for this final question as I actually have tried to search for this but only got comparisons between titanium backup and safestrap. So, if I were to make a titanium backup right now, after the fact that i made a safestrap backup or installation, will that effect anything? I'm really really sorry if these questions are beyond beginner, I just like to play it safe.
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Nope. Tibu backs up specific apps and it's associated data and stores it on sd. When you open tibu, it gets it's info from files it stores on sd. Recovery backs up your entire rom environment, but doesn't actually touch sd card user space.
This is why tibu is so helpful. Everything pops up that you had backed up, even on a new rom.
I'm not familiar with the towelroot method. Only the old Kingo for jb, or the beans method for kk. Sounds like your good to go for any KK roms, and Lefty seems familiar, good deal. Not sure how old you are or how far back your computer knowledge goes, so this may do you no good. Odin doesn't go on your phone, it goes on your computer. I always think of it as the old school DOS, or like now when you boot to command prompt if windows isn't working. Its like a back door when your phone operating system isn't working, or if you need to make changes to part of the system that would otherwise need to be running to make those changes FROM the phone. Its flashes the changes TO the phone from your computer instead.
I'm rambling. Its too early. Anyhow, glad your getting things moving along. You can try roms in various rom slots, but you may have issues. I had some roms work well, others not well at all. The ones that have problems, they seem to work better in the stock slot. So you have to wipe the stock slot and flash it there. No big deal, just don't goof up, flash it all at once. If you pause, take a potty break and the battery dies, whatever, don't forget, you have no operating system at that point. Thats when Odin would come into play
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Nope. Tibu backs up specific apps and it's associated data and stores it on sd. When you open tibu, it gets it's info from files it stores on sd. Recovery backs up your entire rom environment, but doesn't actually touch sd card user space.
This is why tibu is so helpful. Everything pops up that you had backed up, even on a new rom.
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Alright so quick update. I successfully installed both roms into slots 1 and 2 respectively. Everything went okay, I rebooted system, but the screen just stayed black. They aren't loading, i still can go back to stock rom. But uhm any idea as to why this is occuring? Could it be the NC4/NC2 build things?
In the hyperdrive rom for the note 3, it says it will work with verizon and also states that after the initial reboot after flashing the rom, there will be a 10 minute wait until it actually boots up. I'd say i've waited 15 minutes and nothing has shown up. So I'm assuming something went wrong. Perhaps i should try to reflash it?
EDIT: I read the directions further ahead and managed to flash a file via odin for the first time, now im getting a rom's boot animation which is good. I hope this'll work !
Edit 2: I successfully installed it and booted it up, everything went okay, I restored my titanium backup and then titanium prompted me to restart. I restarted, and now its bootlooping android.process.acore or something like that is crashing everything =/
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Alright so quick update. I successfully installed both roms into slots 1 and 2 respectively. Everything went okay, I rebooted system, but the screen just stayed black. They aren't loading, i still can go back to stock rom. But uhm any idea as to why this is occuring? Could it be the NC4/NC2 build things?
In the hyperdrive rom for the note 3, it says it will work with verizon and also states that after the initial reboot after flashing the rom, there will be a 10 minute wait until it actually boots up. I'd say i've waited 15 minutes and nothing has shown up. So I'm assuming something went wrong. Perhaps i should try to reflash it?
EDIT: I read the directions further ahead and managed to flash a file via odin for the first time, now im getting a rom's boot animation which is good. I hope this'll work !
Edit 2: I successfully installed it and booted it up, everything went okay, I restored my titanium backup and then titanium prompted me to restart. I restarted, and now its bootlooping android.process.acore or something like that is crashing everything =/
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uh oh now my stock rom is bootlooping as well. i in trouble
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uh oh now my stock rom is bootlooping as well. i in trouble
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What did you flash in odin?
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What did you flash in odin?
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In JasmineRom's instructions it says to flash a file called unified_KK_Firmware_RE.tar.md5. After flashing it, it booted up to the new rom.But seemingly once i restarted after titanium backup restored everything it crashed. I then cleared all the cache and data through a factory reset in the safestrap settings and it started up normally. Am I not going to be able to restore my things through titanium? I would send you a link to the odin flash file, but I can't until I have a certain number of posts
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In JasmineRom's instructions it says to flash a file called unified_KK_Firmware_RE.tar.md5. After flashing it, it booted up to the new rom.But seemingly once i restarted after titanium backup restored everything it crashed. I then cleared all the cache and data through a factory reset in the safestrap settings and it started up normally. Am I not going to be able to restore my things through titanium? I would send you a link to the odin flash file, but I can't until I have a certain number of posts
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No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.
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No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.
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Alright so as we speak right now, I have slot 1 with jasminerom and stock which should be the untouched stock rom of course. I have a backup through safestrap of that. I will uninstall titaniumbackup and reinstall and see if that works?
edit: sorry I feel as though I'm being unclear as I can hardly comprehend my own messages. Before, both slot 1 and stock were bootlooping. This bootloop came after titanium backup promted me to restart. But when i cleared the cache through the factory reset, the slot1 rom started to work agin (jasminerom), I haven't tried stock rom to see if it works yet. I'm currently on jasminerom about to re-restore my apps through titanium backup like you said.
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No need. I know what you're saying. So flashing that file shouldn't have been really necessary, given you're already on nc4. But it doesn't hurt and should not have caused what you described. So you have roms in stock, slot 1, and slot 2? Which ones bootloop?
For tibu, I would uninstall, reboot, reinstall. Somehow it didn't like you doing that.
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alright i finished re-restoring through titanium backup. Once it finished it provided a notification saying "batch complete, 66 elements failed" Right now all my apps are here and everything is seeming to work. Should I restart to see if it bootloops again?
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alright i finished re-restoring through titanium backup. Once it finished it provided a notification saying "batch complete, 66 elements failed" Right now all my apps are here and everything is seeming to work. Should I restart to see if it bootloops again?
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You should be ok. How many apps did you try to restore, if 66 failed?