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So, after a week of using my Nexus 7 the ghosting/image retention isn't getting any better and I've decided that I can't live with it.
My screen is also coming unglued on the left hand side like a lot of people's. I could probably live with this, but it's made me more determined to return it due to te ghosting. Has also made me think it makes sense to wait until it's been properly addressed by Asus/Google.
I'm therefore going to return it to Ebuyer and request a refund. Definitely want to buy another Nexus 7 eventually though as I love the device otherwise.
Has anyone already returned theirs to Ebuyer and, if so, how was the process? Did they argue with you?
00se7en said:
So, after a week of using my Nexus 7 the ghosting/image retention isn't getting any better and I've decided that I can't live with it.
My screen is also coming unglued on the left hand side like a lot of people's. I could probably live with this, but it's made me more determined to return it due to te ghosting. Has also made me think it makes sense to wait until it's been properly addressed by Asus/Google.
I'm therefore going to return it to Ebuyer and request a refund. Definitely want to buy another Nexus 7 eventually though as I love the device otherwise.
Has anyone already returned theirs to Ebuyer and, if so, how was the process? Did they argue with you?
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Hi mate. Yeah I returned mine to ebuyer. I wrote about the same things in my rma. I haven't received my replacement yet but as of now they haven't argued and accepted it quite easily . Just waiting for some return details from them.
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Trying to return mine at the moment (Light bleeding on left hand side) and it has been fun so far....
1 - Attempted to return as DOA, but the online form said this had expired even though I was well within the time frame
2 - Filled in the normal return form, and entered that I want a refund
3 - Got a response saying that I need to call a number to get approval to return
4 - Called the number, and spoke to someone who said. 'ok no problem, will get that arranged for you - will email the details to you'
5 - The email instructed me to call Asus and discuss the problem with them to get an approval number.
6 - I replied that my contract is with Ebuyer, not Asus, so am not required to call them - Now awaiting their response
I am a long term customer with Ebuyer, and have been very happy with them so far. This is my first return though, and am not liking how this is progressing. When I purchase something from an online store, I expect to be able to return via online methods, not needing to call someone. They are also out of order trying to get me to call Asus - that is not how the sale of goods act works
Will update when I get more info!
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This is my first return though, and am not liking how this is progressing. When I purchase something from an online store, I expect to be able to return via online methods, not needing to call someone. They are also out of order trying to get me to call Asus - that is not how the sale of goods act works
Will update when I get more info!
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I stopped using Ebuyer for exactly that reason some years ago, never a complaint with their prices or speed of delivery but when it comes to returns they will almost always try to shift the responsibility onto the manufacturer and give you the run around unless you put your foot down.
Just submitted my RMA for ghosting and screen separation. I put it down as "fault under warranty", description as "other" from the drop-down boxes and requested a full refund. I received an email saying to ring their local-rate support line. Was on hold for no longer than 5-10 minutes. As soon as I explained the ghosting issue to the rep he authorised it immediately and I now have an email link to arrange a free collection.
I am impressed with the service so far, though I guess the proof will be when the refund hits my bank account. I still have nightmares about the words "Our engineer's tested it and can't replicate the fault" from the dark days of my local IT box-shifter 12-15yrs ago...
Will wait for reports that new devices are fault free before re-ordering.
I buy loads from Ebuyer from work, have returned several things and had no problems.
Ok, they ask questions - who wouldn't? a lot of faults are not faults, they are user problems. So apart from that, which I consider appropriate, I've been perfectly happy with them for years.
Jeff
So, Ebuyer collected my Nexus 7 free of charge last Friday. I included a printout in the box with some good photos of both ghosting and screen lift so that it was obvious why I was returning it.
I received a message today stating "Following extensive tests by our Returns staff, this item was found to be faulty. Therefore a refund will be issued once the RMA has been closed."
Ebuyer certainly get the thumbs up from me this time :good:
I'll no doubt take a ribbing for this, but I've replaced the Nexus 7 with a Blackberry Playbook. Not for everyone I know, but I use a Blackberry Curve extensively at work and it bridges to the Playbook allowing me to access my calendar, inbox and browser on the larger screen. Will be even better on business trips as I have unlimited international roaming. As a result I've found it far more useful throughout the day than the Nexus 7, even though the screen resolution isn't as good, a few apps are missing, and it's a little heavier. £149 for 32gig is also a bargain.
For the avoidance of doubt though, unless you use a Blackberry as your primary phone the Nexus 7 is the better buy and if I ever buy a 10 inch tablet for use around the house 'll seriously consider a Jelly Bean device.
I purchased my Galaxy 2 7" Tab right before Memorial Day. It worked perfectly for the first 35 days. Then it would just die and the only way to revive it was to plug it in, wait 5 minutes, unplug it, then hold the power button for 60 seconds. It would come back to life but the first time the screen turned off it would not come on and the above procedure had to be performed again.
I emailed Amazon and was pretty much told "Talk to the Manufacturer" OK, fair enough. Despite the fact that my family spends thousands per year at Amazon, I understand. Samsung phone support asked me for a detailed description of the problem. I stated exactly what I had to do to get the device to work. They assured me it would be noted and sent me a return shipping label. About 2 weeks later I get an email that says my device was repaired. The issue was noted as "Dead (Intermittently)" and that was it. The repair...."S/W Upgrade (External Factor)". I thought, WTF, no way that was software.
The device was returned today with numerous scratches and what look like pry marks on the rear cover. The device was PERFECT when sent in. So I fire it up and the screen shuts off and the device is doing the EXACT same thing it did before I sent it in. I called Samsung back and kept getting put on hold and was eventually told I had to send it back yet again. I asked why as obviously they did nothing to fix it the first time. They said that if it comes back again with the same issue I *might* be able to get a new device. I also asked why my device was cosmetically damaged and as you can expect, the CSR gave me some BS about how careful they are. Really? They pried my back off, scratched it, nicked it, and that is what they call being careful? To top it all off, it was shoved into a box with absolutely no packing material and was banging around in the box. Even if they do actually repair it, what are the odds it makes it back again without being damaged further?
All in all I'm very frustrated with Samsung support. I understand electronic devices fail, but they should actually be able to fix the device on the first return. Especially when the problem is so obvious. It's like they don't even care. I will certainly think twice before buying another Samsung product.
I certainly can sympathize but you know they all pretty much are the same. I've had similar experiences with HP, Dell, Toshiba, and Sony over the years and that's just with electronics. My latest was with a IKEA desk I purchased which showed up damaged sent back just so they could send me another damaged one. We can only blame ourselves and parents who passed on buying products and services from reputable companies to buy from the low price companies. Its become so standard practice that they all pretty much operate this way now. Costs too much too care and we the customer don't buy from companies who care. Plus its all about the shareholders.
With that being said. Thank you for sharing your story. It just may make a difference when I purchase my next device. Damn, who am I kidding. It will make a difference. I don't want to deal with companies like that.
You're right. I usually buy my electronics from Best Buy. I have always had great customer service, especially when I get Best Buy Corporate involved. I purchased 2 Asus Prime tablets at Christmas last year. One for me and one for my son. The GPS never worked but we kept waiting for the magic firmware fix that never came. WiFi was also weak. I sent an email to Best Buy Corporate and within hours I had someone call me, called my local store, and allowed me to exchange both for the TF700's. Some 8+ months after purchase. I buy a lot of stuff at Amazon but not typically electronics. I made the mistake of purchasing this at Amazon as I had a gift card I wanted to use. They have great prices but come day 31, forget about returning it for an exchange let alone 8 months later. I did send an email to Samsung NA headquarters so maybe they will make sure it is fixed or replaced the second time around. One can always hope...
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You're right. I usually buy my electronics from Best Buy. I have always had great customer service, especially when I get Best Buy Corporate involved. I purchased 2 Asus Prime tablets at Christmas last year. One for me and one for my son. The GPS never worked but we kept waiting for the magic firmware fix that never came. WiFi was also weak. I sent an email to Best Buy Corporate and within hours I had someone call me, called my local store, and allowed me to exchange both for the TF700's. Some 8+ months after purchase. I buy a lot of stuff at Amazon but not typically electronics. I made the mistake of purchasing this at Amazon as I had a gift card I wanted to use. They have great prices but come day 31, forget about returning it for an exchange let alone 8 months later. I did send an email to Samsung NA headquarters so maybe they will make sure it is fixed or replaced the second time around. One can always hope...
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I should email best buy and raise hell about my tab. Maybe I could get a new one or allowed to upgrade to a 10.
Thanks for sharing. I love my three Samsung devices and I'm upset for you. They should treat us, the customer a lot better. I've spent a lot of money on my toys. We all have. Assholes.
I refuse to buy something like this online. I use the power of the receipt to its full potential.
OK, so as is my usual practice when I am unhappy with service a company is providing, I did some research and found the email address of the CEO/President of Samsung NA and sent a nice email. I did that last night and got a call from the office of the President of Samsung NA this morning. The nice woman reviewed my case and within 3 minutes said "We will replace your unit with a brand new unit". She asked if I had already sent my old unit back for repair. I told her it went out this morning. She said the day it is received I will get a new, unopened P3113 shipped via overnight to my home. She apologized multiple times. She then sent me an email with all her contact information and told me to contact her if I have any further issues or questions. As I have discovered, it's all about getting to the right level of support.
While I am still unhappy that Samsung was unable to fix my device the first time, and did cosmetic damage, I'm extremely happy with the way this was handled in the end. Samsung will keep my business in the future.:good:
That's awesome! I'm happy for ya bud. It also makes me feel good that they stood behind their product and took care of the most important person. The customer. Kudos for you as well for taking the time to do this right. Sometimes I forget we the customer have to make the effort to handle these kinds of issues correctly.
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OK, so as is my usual practice when I am unhappy with service a company is providing, I did some research and found the email address of the CEO/President of Samsung NA and sent a nice email. I did that last night and got a call from the office of the President of Samsung NA this morning. The nice woman reviewed my case and within 3 minutes said "We will replace your unit with a brand new unit". She asked if I had already sent my old unit back for repair. I told her it went out this morning. She said the day it is received I will get a new, unopened P3113 shipped via overnight to my home. She apologized multiple times. She then sent me an email with all her contact information and told me to contact her if I have any further issues or questions. As I have discovered, it's all about getting to the right level of support.
While I am still unhappy that Samsung was unable to fix my device the first time, and did cosmetic damage, I'm extremely happy with the way this was handled in the end. Samsung will keep my business in the future.:good:
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Gotta note also that first device was just plain bad luck.
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Gotta note also that first device was just plain bad luck.
Sent either from my p113 (gtab 2 7.0) or i997 (Infuse)
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Yup, I realize this happens. I suspect if I had not gone this route the device would have come back still broken and they would have probably made good anyway. I just saved a step or 2. I've been fairly lucky overall with electronic devices.
I just wanted to follow up on this. I did receive a new unopened Galaxy Tab 2 via UPS on Monday 8/27. The outer box was destroyed and the inner box was damaged but the device was perfect. I have been using it heavily all week and it has been performing well. While not the best service experience, at least Samsung made it right with a single email to the right place.
My advice to anyone experiencing poor customer service, with any large purchase, is to do a little searching and find the corporate directory and with any luck you can find the CEO/President's email address. These addresses are typically monitored by high level CSR's that can do things other CSR's cannot do. I have used this trick multiple times with multiple vendors and it has always gotten me great service. A well written email can do wonders. Good luck!
Glad it worked out well in the end Mike and thanks for the "tips" hopefully i will never need to use them.
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Kudos to you Mike ! If we all do like you did standard of Customer Care will get raised to great heights.
Would you like to share your email so it might serve as a template/sample for others ?
Thanks !
Sure, in fact I will share both the email I sent to Samsung and the email sent to Best Buy about the Prime TF201.
Samsung:
Sent to Samsung NA CEO and President. IT was someone from the president's staff who called me the day after this was sent.
Hello Yangkyu-san,
My name is Michael SXXXXXXX and I have been a long time Samsung Customer. I have 4 Samsung HD TV’s, a Samsung Galaxy Nexus and a Samsung Galaxy 2 7” tablet along with multiple other Samsung products. I’m writing to you as I’m very frustrated with the service I have received on my defective Galaxy 2 7” tablet. The device was purchased at the end of May from Amazon. Right after my return period expired, I started having problems with the device. It would just die and the only way to restart it was to plug the cable in, unplug it and hold the power button for 60 seconds. I called Samsung and they took all my information and said I needed to send the unit in for repair. I clearly explained the symptoms in detail and the CSR said he made all those notes in my repair order.
After 10 days, I received an email stating that my unit was repaired. The Issue summary was simply “DEAD Intermittently” and the fix was “S/W Upgrade (External Factor)” The Service ticket number is 4115XXXXX. The unit was returned today and within 5 minutes was exhibiting the exact same behavior. I again called Samsung service and was told I needed to return my unit yet again. The new ticket number is 411XXXXX.
I am very frustrated that despite sending this unit in for repair once, I need to send it in yet again and be without my device for another 2 weeks. I understand electronics break but what I don’t understand is why I need to return it again after sending in for repair once. I asked if I could just get a new device since it appears to me that the repair center is unable to repair it. I was told that if it comes back again unrepaired, I *may* qualify for a new unit.
I use this device for work and cannot afford to continue to be without it. Now I must wait another 2 weeks before my unit comes back hoping it is repaired properly this time and if still broken then I may be able to get a replacement? Adding additional time to my wait for a fully functional device. I honestly expected much better from Samsung support. It should also be noted that my device was in perfect cosmetic condition when sent in. When returned there are scratches on the back and what looks like pry marks on the back cover. I did not expect to have my device damaged cosmetically along with it not being repaired properly.
Please let me know if there is anything Samsung can do for me. I am returning the Tablet tomorrow, again leaving me without a major work tool for yet another 2 weeks and hoping it is actually repaired and not damaged further. Thank you for your attention in this matter.
A lifelong Samsung customer,
-Michael SXXXXX
[email protected]
[email protected]
215-xxx-xxxx
I received a call the next day and a follow-up email is below:
Mr. SXXXX,
As per our phone conversation, my contact information is below.
Thanks,
Heather XXXXX
NAHQ CSD VOC
Samsung Electronics America, Inc.
85 Challenger Road, 7th Fl
Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660
[email protected]
O: 201-373-XXXX | M: 973-590-XXXX | F: 201-329-XXXX
Office of the President: 1-888-480-XXXX
Below is the email I sent to the CEO of Best Buy regarding my defective Prime tablets:
Dear Mr. Mikan,
I’m sorry to bother you but I feel I have to report issues I’m having with products purchased at Best Buy back in December of 2011.
I purchased 2 Asus Prime tablets for Christmas. One for my son and one for myself. We have had nothing but issues with these tablets. The GPS does not work on either tablet at all. Even after getting the free GPS dongle we cannot get GPS to function. We also have horrible WiFi. I spent hundreds of dollars to upgrade my wireless thinking that would help the WiFi issues. That did not help.
Recently, I started reading where many people are having the exact same issue that I am having. I understand these are design defects in the Asus Prime TF201 and cannot be fixed. Many have returned their ASUS prime tablets in exchange for the newer TF700 table at Best Buy. Even those having their Prime’s longer than I have had success. I tried to do this but was basically laughed at and told “No way”.
I have been a loyal Best Buy customer for years and spend several thousand dollars per year at Best Buy stores and at Best Buy online. I’m just asking to be allowed to return by 2 defective TF201 tablets and get full crdit towards 2 new TF700 tablets. My understanding is the design flaws of the TF201 were fixed in the TF700. Below are my 2 order numbers. Anything you can do to assist a long time customer would be greatly appreciated.
BBY01-4355XXXXXXXX
BBY01-4322XXXXXXXX
Regards,
Michael SXXXXX
215-XXX-XXXX
[email protected]
On this request, I received a call about an hour after I sent it and the woman I spoke to asked which store I wanted to return my items to. Since it was after hours, she promised to call my local store and "see what she could do". The next day at 11:00 AM she returned my call, gave me the managers names and told me to take my 2 Prime's and dock in for full credit towards 2 new TF700's and the TF700 dock. I was in and out of the store in 10 minutes.
You have set a good example.
May be you could also guide us on how to find these "Premier" e-mail ids as i was once trying to reach Head of LG but could not find any Contact info
Thanks again
Bon-Joon Koo is the CEO of LG. From what I can tell, the email address format lg uses is last name first initial at lge.com so I'd try [email protected]. I found this by searching for less than 5 minutes. More diligent searching may find the exact email address. If you get a rejection keep trying different combinations.
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You have set a good example.
May be you could also guide us on how to find these "Premier" e-mail ids as i was once trying to reach Head of LG but could not find any Contact info
Thanks again
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LG was good regarding my 6 year old tv.
Basically, the power board went out, and I was unable to purchase the repair parts.
They gave me a prorated refund of 300 bucks ( would have been more I'd I had receipt) almost enough to buy a new tv.
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OK has anyone had any experience on doing an exchange or return in the UK for a nexus 4.
I recieved mine today and the damn device is perfect in every way except the bezel had a big chunk of paint chipped off where the volume rocker is. I was gutted as the screen was pixel perfect the buttons were solid the back didn't creak. nothing.
So I thought I'll set up an exchange no problem Google are good this way. After all the guys over in the us get a shipping label send off the device and in the mean time a new one is winging its way to you. Thanks to ups.
So I spoke to Eric who said he would set up the RMA and I should send back the damaged device with the shipping label and RMA note in the email he would send.
Not so
I got the email and it had an RMA document but no shipping label.
I phoned to ask where I send it from then. Now Jeremy tells me they don't do shipping labels for the UK as its TNT that deal with things over here.
OK I thought I'll contact TNT
Nope they need a reference number for collection or before they can do anything.
So I phone back
In the mean time I check my Google account and notice the new device £279 pending. So I check my bank and find the £279 has been pre authorized on my bank account
Which wouldn't be so bad if they sent a shipping label etc as I could have it sent away tomorrow and with them next week. Well within the 21days return and they wouldnt charge me.
As it is I have no shipping label and no one can reassure me that one is or will be send and how I will receive it.
So I call up johnney at Google who tells me it should turn up but does not know how.
Well I can't have £279 pre auth out my account for a device that will ship to me sometime and £288 out my account for a device I have but is faulty so can't sell it and probably won't get a shipping label sent out therefore I'll end up with one good device which I will be charged for and another that's faulty and cannot return
That's if the exchange is OK when it comes
My god why don't they offer a door step exchange like Sony did with the ps3 etc through ups or city link
In the end I couldn't take the risk and had to cancel the exchange so that the pre auth will drop off my account and set up the RMA for the one I have to get a refund.
I know its not great but better than being charged again and ending up not being able to return the first.
From what I read over at the nexus 7 forum a lot of UK customers waited for about a month for refunds but some were 59 days or more as the shipping labels just didn't go out.
So I wanted to know if anyone had already went through this process in the UK and what the actual procedure was and how long it took to receive the shipping label etc. Did it get sent out or did you drop it off with TNT and give googles account number or what.
Any info would be great and I'm sure it would help other UK customers as I would have really liked some info.
Unfortunately we are not as fortunate as our US brothers and sisters to be able to deal with ups and simple returns.
Here's some pics of my lovely but flawed nexus
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Anyone want to chip in with experiences as it would be really useful to find out what's going on in the UK since Google don't seem to know
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I've just organised a replacement due to white spots on the screen and the buzzing earpiece. It took a while to get through, and I was ready to break something due to the pre recorded message about high volumes of calls on a constant loop (as in it literally repeats the second it finishes) but the guy I spoke to was extremely helpful, more so than any UK based CSR I've ever dealt with!
In terms of the procedure, he's emailing me with an RMA form and he said a prepaid postage label will come with my new device in order to send the defective one back. He also said a charge will appear on my card and once they receive the defective device they'd take the charge off.
Although my experience hasn't completed yet, I thought I'd share my experience so far.
01354 226184 that's the none 0800 number to call for UK based support by the way, for those who can't call 0800 numbers for free.
Yeah same as myself.
The issue I have with it all is they don't really know who arranges what in the UK. I was told its TNT that arrange the returns bag but TNT say its Google that have to initiate the return through TNT. Then latter sounds more sensible but Google cs don't know how to do this and presume its automatic.
Problem is you only have a limited time to get the return back to them.
If I could walk into TNT give googles TNT account number then pop the device in a bag with the RMA note I would be happy.
It would be sent off and tracked. Simply just have to wait on it being received and refunded.
What makes me uneasy is the potential for the returns bag to never turn up. You get billed for a second device and no way to return the original defective one.
I'll keep this going as there are lots of threads about returns in the US but nothing about how the process works in practice in the UK which leaves me wishing Google had a walking store or doorstep exchange service.
Also thanks for the non 0800 number
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You know I remember reading somewhere in the agreement Google say that they reserve the rights to send out used/refurbished items as replacement. Maybe your nexus is one of those.
Just a suggestion: Do try to make sure you handle your RMA carefully. I recently did an RMA and the CSR sounds like a complete noob and in the email they sent me has a RMA agreement with ASUS and link on it.They're just getting real sloppy.
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You know I remember reading somewhere in the agreement Google say that they reserve the rights to send out used/refurbished items as replacement. Maybe your nexus is one of those.
Just a suggestion: Do try to make sure you handle your RMA carefully. I recently did an RMA and the CSR sounds like a complete noob and in the email they sent me has a RMA agreement with ASUS and link on it.They're just getting real sloppy.
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There is no way the RMA stock already has returned/refurbished devices in it. They have to go back through a process to be repaired, inspected, tested, and repackaged before they can be sent as RMA units and this process takes weeks or even months. Any RMA units that are sent out at this point in time will definitely be new units.
The RMA devices are new as they have as said before kept a stock of new ones aside for this purpose.
As of yet I have not had any returns envelope or shipping label etc.
I know j could use the nexus 4 just now until returned but I'm just so fed up with the whole process its left the device tainted with this experience. Its an awesome device and love the design I just can't bring myself to use it because of all this. So it will be returned as I got it if I ever get to return it
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ok sorry to say as of yet STILL have NO retruns envelope etc for my N4 despite google cs saying its been sent
Gutted mate, had the same problem but some persistent nagging via email and I got my label need to ring TNT and arrange collection
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how did the label come out? did it come through royal mail
While you still have it. Give it a little scratch please, around the chip are. Does it come off really easy? Thanks a lot.
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how did the label come out? did it come through royal mail
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TNT delivered it mate had to sign for it as well
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I looked at their site and it said the RMA document would be sent with my replacement, which would be despatched within a week of the 20th. Seriously, Google are a joke!
I'm trying to arrange a collection for my faulty Nexus, I have the TNT bag with the consignment letter, which has a senders account number registered to Google. The delivery address on the consignment letter is that of LG Electronics in Poland, TNT won't collect it as the delivery address that they have registered to the Account Number that I'm quoting is for Google in Belgium.
Did anyone else experience this? I'm tempted to blag it with TNT and just say that the delivery address is what they think it should be.
I would like to say first that I absolutely LOVE my Nexus 7 tablet. Having owned a couple of different Android tablets made by those other people (Samsung...even an iPad Mini), I can honestly say the N7 really is the best. With that being said, I would like to share my experience with them today, and I hope it helps others in being more informed about their decision to purchase in the future. Its kind of a long read, but you will be shocked at the end, so please see it through.
A week or so ago my tablet developed an issue where after waking it from standby I would have to toggle Airplane Mode on and off in order to access the internet. I was off work today so I called Google warranty about the issue. The gentleman I spoke with was very kind and, I believe, as helpful in the situation as he could be. After explaining the issue and running through some standard trouble shooting, the first technician I spoke with from Google concluded it was most likely a hardware issue and that someone from a different department (mind you, I was speaking to the warranty department already) would contact me via email in 24-48 hours.
After I hung up from him, I thought about it and something wasn't quite right. The warranty department should be able to generate a replacement or at the minimum an RMA right then, right? So I called back and asked to speak with a manager. I was transferred to a floor supervisor, explained everything that had transpired up until then, to which he promised to get to the bottom of the issue right then. He asked for my email address, which I provided, when he stated he could not find an order for a Nexus tablet. I proceeded to explain to him I purchased it from GameStop, I had the receipt with the box and date of purchase, when he abruptly cut me off to tell me he could not do anything about my warranty issue because it was bought from a third party. He explained I would have to go through the retailer or through Asus. Now, here is where my trouble with this begins. Is this not manufactured for, branded, and advertised as a GOOGLE Nexus 7 tablet...or is it brand, advertised, and sold as an Asus Nexus 7 tablet. Yes, I understand who actually manufactured it. But that is transparent. There are A LOT of products made by other manufacturers that are sold under a different brand name. In fact, there are actually quite few true "manufactures" in the world but they make and sell products daily under a different name. However, this floor supervisor was unwilling to provide me with any assistance at all. He did offer to connect me to Asus customer support.
Another hold later, and 20 something minutes into the call, I was connected to another very nice customer service rep from Asus. I again (third time) explained the issue and the steps already performed to remedy the situation. After speaking with him for a while, he agreed to issue an RMA so that one of there technicians could diagnose the problem and do a repair or replace. I asked at his point how long this process takes...TWO WEEKS. Mind you, I have only owned the tablet a total of exactly 7 weeks and 2 days. I told him that this was completely unacceptable. He then offered to upgrade my case to priority service. Again I asked for a time frame and was told this time...1-1/2 WEEKS, or 3 days faster. At this point I am furious. I asked if I could have a replacement sent out...NO. I asked if I could have one sent out with a hold on my credit card until my defective unit was received...NO. I asked if I could have a refund arranged...NO. I asked if he would be kind enough to contact GameStop to request an exchange be made...NO. MY ONLY OPTION ON A 7 WEEK OLD TABLET...A GOOGLE TABLET MIND YOU...WAS TO BE WITHOUT FOR 2 WEEKS! You have go to be kidding me! I sincerely thought Google was better than this.
I used the following analogy...you buy a brand new car. It has a warranty issue that needs fixed so you take it to the dealership at which point they say, "sorry but we cant fix it for 2 weeks" and leave you with no car. I honestly can not believe the customer service between these two companies is this poor. As well, I have had cell phones replaced by AT&T under warranty that CERTAINLY were not made by AT&T, yet Google does not share the same mindset although the tablet was clearly a Google product.
So, I write this as a warning for any of you that have purchased your tablet from GameStop, Best Buy, Staples, ect. what challenges you face should you ever need warranty service. And to those who did purchase off the Play Store exactly how Google is treating their customers. I love Google (a lot less now) but I will NEVER buy another Nexus/Google branded product again...not so much as rent a movie or buy a song from the play store. And I will take to any forum I can access to share my experience in an attempt to convince Google/Asus to improve their customer service. They have lost a customer and I implore you to share my experience with as many people as you can that may be considering a Google product or service in the future.
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
sigaiser said:
Apple is the exception in that example. Buy a Samsung, Motorola, LG, Blackberry, ect. and who handles warranty replacement? AT&T, right? ALTHOUGH it is clearly stated the MANUFACTURER warrants the product against defect. And yes...I am very aware we are not talking about AT&T, simply using it as an example.
Furthermore, I never once stated my consumer rights were violated, in fact I clearly said they offered a solution. However, from a consumer stand point, and in this case especially with the INTENDED transparency between Google and Asus, the issue was not handled with the consumer (me) in their best interest.
Feel free to flame me if you'd like, but I would put nickles to dimes that if it was you, you would feel the same way.
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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For more reports of mishandling and cruddy CS, go here:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]
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Thanks for the link...I posted there as well. It is cruddy. I would
D have expected more from Google in a situation like this.
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You are completely right tho. The should have a shop on hand for when you call. Just for you. Only you. You. Did I mention you?
Yeah i'm talking to you.
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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djsubterrain said:
Here's another analogy: You buy an Apple phone from Best Buy and it develops a fault, where do you take it back to?
Buy a Google product direct from Google next time and learn about Consumer rights.
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Buying direct from Google won't help. When I had to have my Nexus phone replaced, under warranty, I called Google since I bought it on the play store. They gave me a number to Samsung(It was a Galaxy Nexus) and Samsung did exactly the same thing. I had to go to Wal-mart and buy a cheap flip phone to use for 2 weeks while Samsung replaced my 2 month old phone which I had bought from the Google Play Store.
It is definitely nice to go to an apple store and have a replacement in 10 minutes if you have a bad phone... I had an issue with my galaxy s4 and at&t didnt have any in stock to replace it with.... Bad experience.
I actually feel nothing is wrong with the warranty service options the OP mentioned.
It would be above average for the industry.
If I bought a premium car like Lexus then I would expect a nice loaner if my car needs works.
But if I paid for a Toyota, then it's up to the dealer ... a shuttle ride is nice enough.
I even bought my 2012N7 over ebay, haha. Worst case, I just call Asus.
Unless Google promises something and doesn't deliver ... otherwise, it's up to them (that's why I normally
talk nicely to the customer-service people).
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I'm not going to reply, much, to your sarcasm other than to say that if you think I expect more from Google than anyone else, then you're sorely mistaken but entitled to your opinion. If you read any of the post, and you comprehend written text, you could easily deduce that I was stating their current policy (unwritten mind you) on buying from third party retailers.
With that being said, how about being constructive vs. Being a smart ass. Thanks for reading.
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But, I'm only good at smartass comments.
i had my nexus 4 RMA due to faulty screen and i had the most wonderful experience, the lady i spoke to gave me no trouble what so ever promptly sent me an email with the order replacement link, put the hold on my card and 2 days later brand new N4 at my door, i would actually prefer to order directly from them after that experience
Also had a good experience with the nexus 4, screen was super dim, Google sent me a new one and have me a shipping label to send my old one in the same box
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One of the reasons why I always buy from companies with excellent customer service.
Few examples..
Bought a Galaxy Nexus from Amazon and after 6months+ it developed a fault.. cant remember what it was. So me being me... its been 6months+ I contact Samsung because its been so long. They told me they can get it fixed within a week. I get it back and its worse then when i sent it. I tried again.. sent it, came back and still as bad. I contact samsung again and explain to them. They said they will contact me within a few days.
While waiting i thought what the heck... Contacted Amazon and explained Samsung has wasted my time and if possible would like a refund. They said ok right away and got my money back! Samsung contact me and I vented out to the manager/supervisor on the line and all he could say was thats great that you got a refund....
Bought a Nexus 4 direct from Google.. Again after 6months+ it starts over heating. Contact google and they said we can replace it for you no problem. They sent out a new one while i still had the faulty one.
I would pay more for a product just to have great customer service then to get it a little cheaper and have next to no customer service.
So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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@ sigaiser
I understand your frustration. I have an old Nexus 7, which I bought in the UK from PC World. It developed a fault where it would not charge. PC World referred me to ASUS, who ran through various ideas to fix it (most of which I had tried after internet forum searches), gave me a code and an RMA, and told me 7 to 10 days. It was picked up by the courier for next day delivery to Triage Services, who do ASUS repairs in the UK. After 4 weeks, it came back and still had exactly the same fault. (Later, I found that Triage had replaced the motherboard.) SO after another couple of days of trying to sort it out again, I rang again and got another RMA and an email telling me to book it in. I was also told that I should have been told "up to 30 days" not 7 to 10. The courier web site this time told me I'd have to pay for the return (different courier first time) though subsequently ASUS complaints told me that that was a courier error. Away it went again, and came back with the battery re-seated. It did not charge up, so off it went again. After another couple of weeks, making a total of 8 1/2 weeks, it came back with a new wall charger - supposedly that was no longer charging (even though when it left, it happily charged my Nexus 4). I HAD told them it was not that, as 3 different chargers would not charge The Nexus 7. It lasted that day, then refused to charge fully overnight, and charging to a lower % each night. All ASUS would offer was another RMA. :crying:
In the end, I threw myself on the mercy of the team at PC World, and asked if there was anything they could do - perhaps a discount on a different tablet. They had a chat, and gave me a new Nexus 7, this time with their "Whatever Happens" replacement insurance. Result. In future I think I will be getting my stuff from them with that guarantee.:laugh:
The current Nexus 7 charges up MUCH faster than the first one ever did, so either something had been changed, or the first was always faulty.
ASUS had been helpful, but they required THREE parts of the tablet replaced before they'd replace the whole thing. I had only had one so even though I'd lost it for more than 2 months out of the 12 month guarantee they would not consider either a replacement, or even extending the warranty for the 2 months I had been without.
Triage services, on the other hand, who supposedly did the repairs, I have no time for. First time round, they booked the tablet in to their workshop 5 days after they got it (thus showing ASUS that they were working on it faster than the truth). Then clearly they never actually tried it any of the three times before returning it.
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So uh, you're mad because you have to ship your tablet back to the manufacturer to replace it?
Yeah man, that's total BS! Having to send it back to the manufacturers so they can fix it, it isn't like you do that with any other product you own right?
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No, I'm not mad I have to send it back to the manufacturer. I'm mad because that is the ONLY option to send it back. Google told me on the phone if I bought it direct from them, they would send out a replacement right then and there. So what's the difference? GameStop is an authorized retailer. It's not like it was a black market knock off from Amazon. And as far as Asus goes (who is the manufacturer yet not a reseller), they offer no way to have a replacement sent, even with a credit card hold. So the ONLY option is to go without and wait 2 weeks, or whatever the turnaround time ends up being, without the product you paid for. That's what makes me mad.
And maybe I'm missing something, but what I can't get over is the fact that it's made for Google and sold by Google, yet Google is not supporting products sold by third party retailers although it carries their name.
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I really don't see a 1-1.5 week wait as being that big of a deal, sure it would be nice to get it replaced with a new one but they do not have to offer that to you. The warranty doesn't say that they offer replacements at the first sign of an issue. Since you bought it from a 3rd party retailer I wouldn't expect Google to take care of it since it is an ASUS tablet. If you'd purchased it from the Play Store and they wouldn't help then that would be a problem.
They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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They just couldn't move as fast as you *commanded* them too? F off.
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Lol, whatever. Easy to hide behind a screen name. You wouldn't say it to my face so why say it online?
Either way, moderators, just close this thread. Obviously no one has the intelligence to understand the point I was attempting to make so it does no one any good for it to remain open as its only going to turn ugly.
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I dropped my 2013 Moto x and shattered the screen. I use the advanced repair option on the Motorola web site to try and have it repaired for $100. That's where they put a hold on your credit card and ship a "Like new" phone to you then you ship the broken one back to them when the new one arrives. If you don't ship the old one back they bill you for the new one.
I waited over two weeks to get the replacement from Motorola with an email from them that it was shipped 13 days ago. Today after they had me on hold for 45 minutes they came back and apologized to me that it wasn't really shipped and offered me a free upgrade to the 2014 model. I just got done designing my 16 gb pure edition with a bamboo back and it didn't cost me a dime. Not even charge for tax or delivery. Expected delivery January 13th.
Can't beat that for service!
Not too shabby. You're gonna love it, it's an improvement over the 2013 model in every way but the size. I still think the 2013 was the perfect size and wish they didn't make the 2014 as large as they did.
I have only had good experience with moto. The only thing that I dislike about them their billing is screwed up.
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The support in the UK is shocking. I reported a problem with the wooden back coming off a few days after I got the phone and it's taken several weeks to get anywhere with the support. Cases either get closed as solved or ignored by Motorola. I finally called up and spoke to someone but they won't do an advanced shipment of a replacement so I either have to send it for repair or send it back. As I used the cyber Monday discount if I send it back I'll have to order a new one at full price.
I have had some decent interaction with their customer support and they have been very helpful. My only issue is that for whatever reason they will not let me pay $50 extra to make my replacement phone the 64GB version. I started the process for the 14 day return/exchange within the required period, got my code and then noticed they had the 64 available now so I tried to get that. They just refuse to do it and say it is not possible, which I find very strange. I have spoken to a few different people, all very nice, one said he thinks he can get me the code and I can pay the upgrade fee and the other said it is absolutely not possible.
Other than that they have given me some codes for buying accessories and have been helpful.
Is the 14 day exchange policy a US only thing? Or do you have to return the phone prior to receiving the replacement?
Philio25 said:
Is the 14 day exchange policy a US only thing? Or do you have to return the phone prior to receiving the replacement?
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I am in the US, but I am not sure if it is only an US thing or not. You can exchange your phone one of two ways; advanced replacement sends you a new device but you put down a deposit, when you get the replacement device you have ten days to send in your old phone. The other way is you send in your old phone first and then get the replacement.
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I am in the US, but I am not sure if it is only an US thing or not. You can exchange your phone one of two ways; advanced replacement sends you a new device but you put down a deposit, when you get the replacement device you have ten days to send in your old phone. The other way is you send in your old phone first and then get the replacement.
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Here is what they said:
Motorola Support Monkey said:
Thank you for contacting Motorola.
We inform you that the advance repair procedure is not implemented in Europe, only in the US, and it's likely that he has heard about this procedure from American customers, as the XDA developers forum is American. Unfortunately, we cannot control the information provide in third party sites not managed by Motorola.
Motorola procedures in the US are not the same as in Europe, and due to this, in this case we can only offer you a replacement or credit, both following the same procedure: send the phone back to us using the DHL labels that we will provide, and when the phone is arrived to our service centre, this will trigger automatically a refund, or a new xCode for replacement, depending on what is the option that customer prefers.
As you contacted us during the 14 days period in case xxxxx-xxxxxx, the return for credit is possible, but you will need to return the phone to us first and the the system will trigger the resolution.
In case your choose the refund of the credit, in the meantime of course you can place another order.
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So I guess I'll get a replacement, the first phone I sent back arrived back to them in Germany the next day so hopefully I should get the code to place the order again fairly quickly.
I dropped my Moto X 2014 just three weeks after it arrived and the display was cracked. Motorola really sent me a new one after they received the broken one - I had to pay nothing.
Best costumer support I ever experienced. I don't think you can expect this anywhere else.
I'm from Germany, for your information