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Current Situation:
When I say bricked, I mean BRICKED in all caps. The phone is completely unresponsive. If I try to turn it on – no good. If I try to put it in bootloader mode – no response. If I hold the volume button down and depress the power – no menu displays. I get no ‘M’. I get nothing. Except…
If I fire up RSD Lite 4.9 and plug in the phone, it does recognize something. Under model it displays “S Flash OMAP3630”. If I load up an sbf file (I’ve been following Higgsy’s incomparable “How To” guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674 and using the generic UK sbf file he recommends) and depress “Start” within RSD Lite, the phone will display “SW Update In progress…” in white blocky text. RSD Lite says it’s executing and, after several minutes will display a Status of “Finished” and a Result of “PASS”. On the phone, the screen goes dark but a white notification light displays. While the phone is still plugged in, I can depress the power button on and off and RSD Lite will recognize it’s there (if it’s on) or not recognize the phone is there (if the power is toggled off).
Note that the battery is fully charged.
I’ll give you a little background info:
Background:
I purchased Defy phones for my wife and me for Christmas. Her’s is working fine, is unrooted, and has only a few apps beyond stock (Angry Birds of course!). But of course I had to play with mine. All went well until I (stupidly) installed the latest T-Mobile update which removed my root access. This was not acceptable to me as I had overclocked my phone for performance purposes. I had a really hard time getting root access back until I at last found a version of SuperOneClick that did the trick.
By this time I had reset the phone back to factory settings. So I thought “Well, I might as well flash some cool ROM”, so I flashed a Gingerbread themed Froyo cooked up for the Defy. Unfortunately, it didn’t work (for whatever reason). I was stuck at the dreaded ‘M’.
Next I started following Higgsy’s guide (as mentioned above) but I guess I screwed something up because now the phone is totally unresponsive except as detailed above.
So where do I go from here? Some possibilities:
Flash T-Mobile 2.2 test sbf?
Link?
Flash Original SBF?
Link?
I’ve still got my wife’s phone which is working perfectly fine. Is there a way to copy files from her phone to my dead phone and get some life?
Do you guys have some other steps you’d recommend?
I’d really like to get my phone working again and would much appreciate the help. Many thanks in advance.
(Note that I’m a Noob so please don’t assume I know anything!)
(Yet another note: I'm in the USA.)
Which .sbf's and in which order did you install them?
The same happened to me after I'd flashed the 3.4.2 sbf, then tried to downgrade back to 2.34. it went blank and I had to reflash 3.4.2 again.
If you've flashed 2.51 or 3.42 then you can't downgrade from them. So the fix would be to flash the same rom again.
I have the same problem and this how i fix it
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026&highlight=low+battery your phone will show in rsd lite
2.flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933555 with him you get a error that can not be installed
3. disconnect phone from USB and remove the battery
4. Replace the battery in the phone and power up, and phone immediately go into the bootloader
5. Flash bootonly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899450
6. and finaly flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922430
it works for me
sorry for bad english
Solved
I flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922430 per your suggestion and I'm now up and running. Thank you.
Motorola Defy bricked
hi
i have a question about my defy. The white led is still shining but there is no connection to the pc. I connected via USB-cable.
pls HELP!!!!!
I have a similar issue as the OP..
I originally rooted the phone using simpleoneclick... then I overclocked it using setvsel...
it was running fine for an hour or so, and then I ran quadrant (several times over the course of the hour) and the final time, it rebooted during the middle of a test, and then it would just keep looping the bootup moto logo and "android" screens.
at that point I could still enter the bootloader and recovery screens. I tried wiping data and resetting to factory defaults with no avail.
Finally I followed a thread on flashing a new rom to the phone with RDSLite and the uk rom. After getting it to finish flashing and it showing a 'Finished' and 'PASS' status as the OP mentioned, te phone now no longer responds. Power button does not trigger the screen to go on, regardless of if I try to press the volume buttons with it or not.
The only response I get from it is when it is connected to the computer, the white led turns on, and the computer (and rdslite) recognizes it. I can still flash it with rdslite and the screen turns on displaying the SW update In progress message...
but that's about all I can get it to do.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated
edit: I should also mention that after the uk 2.21 rom I've also tried the china 2.2.1 roms.... Should I also try flashing the 2.51 uk version as well?
Okay, I tried a few more roms and this one "JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_117-00..." has everything back up and running...
however now i'm running into the issue of apps that i've 'downloaded' not actually installing...
bricked
same problem here. rsd can detect my phone but still failed flashing. i changed and renamed the /sbf but still doesnt work... please help
MB525 Defy Bricked
MB525 Defy bricked and rsd cannt detect my phone failed . ... please help
its dead. Actually i uninstalled busybox and in this process all the system files also deleted by busybox. now phone is not starting. if anyone can suggest. I was using MIUI rom. can any one make it alive again.
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Same problem here, but my phone is only detected by a friend's laptop. I think I have to flash Defy+ rom
try to flash sbf use rsd
If your phone is detected by RSD Lite, then you have an easy fix in just flashing a new sbf. If it's not detected and you can't charge your battery, you're going to have to use the MacGyver method.
if sbf doesnt work u better send it to warranty
Well. On my computer the phone isn"t even recognized. Maybe because some RSD Lite files are missing and it need them to detect bricked defy (i did reinstalled RSD Lite)
If it's recognised on your friend's computer but not on yours then it means that you probably have the versions of the motorola drivers or rsd lite that have problems.
white led solution
hope for defy with only white led light turning on. This assumes that you have already have mototola drivers and RSD lite installed.
Background : I only had defy one day when I decided to flash it with miui. I bricked on the first time with bootloops. Did research and got drivers and rsd lite. managed to find three stock t mobile roms and flashed to stock Tom, then flashed miui, since then I've been switching between miui and cm7.
Problem : After a few months of use, I decided to flash stock rom to see how the battery life would be like. Bricked it the first time with bootloops. I thought I had flashed it with wrong rom because the first time I flashed back to original rom I did not delete the roms that I thought were the original roms. So after first failure I tried to flashed with the other roms I had. after the third rom it would not go into bootloader, only white led would turn on. Tried macguiver, did not work so save your usb cable, don't mess with it ain't gonna work.
Two part solution: I realized that when I plugged phone with usb I would hear the usb tone on win 7. When to device manager and saw the other device or something like that was appearing and disappearing when I would connect and disconnect phone. I clicked it and it said Motorola device or something like that, it was sensing my defy! defy drivers were wipe out due to bad flash. I had mototola drivers so I clicked on update and searched for mototola drivers on hard drive. I had rsd lite on and it recognized the defy after driver update, even though the bootloader screen was not on and just the white led was on.
decided to flash rom that have me bootloop and it flashed it but still gave me a bootloop., by the way, the update part of bootloader showed up after a while.
Second part of solution: googled problem and found out that the phone has a stock recovery. its the robot with the triangle exclamation mark. when you get to it you have to touch the extreme lower right hand corner of the screen to get to where you can wipe data and cache. when you start wiping data / cache you have to press on ok?? on lower left hand of the screen repeatedly until wipe is complete. then reboot and tada it boots up to stock tmo USA defy.
this is the stock rom I used : JORDN_U3_6.36.0
F Y I
if you ever try to flash a rom and it just bootloops, just go into stock recovery and wipe data and cache and you should be able to boot into android.
I'm Mc Gayvering my phone. Just tried a led directly connected to USB and fried it
This is my last hope
Is your phone worked?
I have the same problem. I try many ROM,But all of them dosn't work.
When I put in the battery,it shows Bootloader,When i flash a ROM use RSD，the phone always display SW Update In progress... Then the RSD's status is error verifying code group XX(XX=32/33/39/40 etc.) checksums.
What should I do?
THS.
Help :mad :
Hello, I'm having a problem with my Motorola Defy, he is not popping no FBS. he is not linking a black screen, but the white light is on, but when I try to install the SBF appears SW Uplidate im Progress .. can someone help me
wesleybinho said:
Hello, I'm having a problem with my Motorola Defy, he is not popping no FBS. he is not linking a black screen, but the white light is on, but when I try to install the SBF appears SW Uplidate im Progress .. can someone help me
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dude this is all same **** u flashed wrong sbf.
flash the sbf service flash higher or same version which came by default wid ur phone.
flashes here http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
Hi everybody
I have Motorola Defy, but after I plug in the usb cable to defy and PC , rsd lite 4.9, 53.1. or 5.5 doesnt recognize my device..
After plug in it shows only white led and nothing more, nothing at all...
I tried every method , but unsuccessfull...
Everytime i try tu plug in, it just shows white led, nothing more, screen is black, and PC doesnt recognize it at all...
What should I do to unbrick it ???
Pls help, I'm desperate ... Thank you
PS: I tryed every method, I searched almost everywhere
When you plug it in first make sure battery full charge then load rsd lite and under settings change it to first come first serve. I had same issue and this worked.
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I'm having the same issue.hopefully it works I'll get back to you after that
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Have you tried entering bootloader and then connect the phone to PC? I got RSD lite recognizing my phone this way.
yuffany said:
Have you tried entering bootloader and then connect the phone to PC? I got RSD lite recognizing my phone this way.
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I can't power up the phone, I can't enter boot menu or even download mode, nothing, before brick: I just plug usb into phone and usb and i could flash througt rsd whatever I want to but now I plug the usb cable into a phone and PC dooesn'r recognize my defy...
Just white led and black screen...
djmajino said:
I can't power up the phone, I can't enter boot menu or even download mode, nothing, before brick: I just plug usb into phone and usb and i could flash througt rsd whatever I want to but now I plug the usb cable into a phone and PC dooesn'r recognize my defy...
Just white led and black screen...
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??
Have you tried my suggestion.. I had same issue.. black screen with white lite.. you need to have full battery then plug the phone in and run rsd lite with settings on first come first serve..
if
your phone does load with a full charge then hold volume up and power button to get into the bootloader menu.. after than then plug into rsd lite..
to make things easy let us know what happens after you put a batter with full charge on it.. then we can go from there..
yes , I have full battery, I set the rds lite to option firt-come-first-serve, but nothing happend
I can't get into bootloader, I can't power the phone up, I can't get into mode... Nothing
Still the same probem, still not solved, Any idea what could be with it ??
Check the drivers
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djmajino said:
yes , I have full battery, I set the rds lite to option firt-come-first-serve, but nothing happend
I can't get into bootloader, I can't power the phone up, I can't get into mode... Nothing
Still the same probem, still not solved, Any idea what could be with it ??
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try these steps..
take phone battery out and wait few seconds..
then put batter back in and hold volume up and power button for few seconds.. let go of power button and then let go of volume up button..
your phone screen will still be black and no light will be lit up..
then connect usb cable to phone then to pc.. after that you load up RSD lite with the setting of first come first serve.. you should see a line in middle of window that says.. "connected" at this point your phone might display white light ..it sometimes doesn't but as long as rsd lite shows connected your fine.. at this point you should be able to run sbf files
The defy doesn't even power up when I push the power button
djmajino said:
The defy doesn't even power up when I push the power button
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are you reading the steps??? clearly says that the screen might not light up or lights might not turn on..but thats ok..
before we do all this did you make sure your battery is fully charged?
please read my last steps carefully and try it out..i was in same boat and worked for me
dilfatx said:
are you reading the steps??? clearly says that the screen might not light up or lights might not turn on..but thats ok..
before we do all this did you make sure your battery is fully charged?
please read my last steps carefully and try it out..i was in same boat and worked for me
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I tried McGyver hack, phone was connected, I did flash 2.51.1 UK version non carries, but nothing did,
On screen was:
SW update
In progrees
at RSD was Phone is being rebooted and PASS, but nothing on phone screen
Defy is working againg, but I was at the service
so using the MacGyver hack method enabled your computer to see your phone again?
I have the same problem (flashed wrong rom, phone bricked with just a black screen, flashed the same wrong rom again hoping for a different result, still bricked, read up on what was going wrong, came back the next day and my computer (including RSD Lite) could no longer see my Moto Defy. Next step i'm either going to have to (1)borrow another Moto Defy battery that is guaranteed fully charged (i have no way to check the amount of charge in mine while my Defy is out of action) or (2)cut up a USB cable and do the MacGyver hack.
1. Make sure your battery is charged.
2. Make sure you've all the latest drivers from Motorola's Website installed.
3. Make sure your RSD Lite version is atleast 4.9. I use v5 and had no problems till now.
4. Boot into bootloader mode.
5. Flash
If it doesn't work:
Try MacGyver hack.
In case you don't know what it is, search here in xda forums. You'll find it.
Update your drivers and do the same as above
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium
Same as above worked 4 me I needed to put on the latest gb rom the non downgrade one.
defy cm7
komakaze said:
Next step i'm either going to have to (1)borrow another Moto Defy battery that is guaranteed fully charged (i have no way to check the amount of charge in mine while my Defy is out of action) or (2)cut up a USB cable and do the MacGyver hack.
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Option 3 is to buy a cheap standalone wall charger for the Defy battery off eBay, like this one, to keep your battery charged between attempts to flash the phone. Gotta be less risky than the McGyver hack.
Not sure if the standalone wall charger will work, seems to me that the phone doesn't actually recognise the battery, however I have no means to test this and it's just a guess.
If it does actually detect your battery level but just can't charge it then what you listed is fine.
hope for defy with only white led light turning on. This assumes that you have already have mototola drivers and RSD lite installed.
Background : I only had defy one day when I decided to flash it with miui. I bricked on the first time with bootloops. Did research and got drivers and rsd lite. managed to find three stock t mobile roms and flashed to stock Tom, then flashed miui, since then I've been switching between miui and cm7.
Problem : After a few months of use, I decided to flash stock rom to see how the battery life would be like. Bricked it the first time with bootloops. I thought I had flashed it with wrong rom because the first time I flashed back to original rom I did not delete the roms that I thought were the original roms. So after first failure I tried to flashed with the other roms I had. after the third rom it would not go into bootloader, only white led would turn on. Tried macguiver, did not work so save your usb cable, don't mess with it ain't gonna work.
Two part solution: I realized that when I plugged phone with usb I would hear the usb tone on win 7. When to device manager and saw the other device or something like that was appearing and disappearing when I would connect and disconnect phone. I clicked it and it said Motorola device or something like that, it was sensing my defy! defy drivers were wipe out due to bad flash. I had mototola drivers so I clicked on update and searched for mototola drivers on hard drive. I had rsd lite on and it recognized the defy after driver update, even though the bootloader screen was not on and just the white led was on.
decided to flash rom that have me bootloop and it flashed it but still gave me a bootloop., by the way, the update part of bootloader showed up after a while.
Second part of solution: Please Google defy stock rom!!! googled problem and found out that the phone has a stock recovery. its the robot with the triangle exclamation mark. when you get to it you have to touch the extreme lower right hand corner of the screen to get to where you can wipe data and cache. when you start wiping data / cache you have to press on ok?? on lower left hand of the screen repeatedly until wipe is complete. then reboot and tada it boots up to stock tmo USA defy.
this is the stock rom I used : JORDN_U3_6.36.0
F Y I
if you ever try to flash a rom and it just bootloops, just go into stock recovery and wipe data and cache and you should be able to boot into android.
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Sorry, Google defy stock recovery!!!
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on even when hooked up macgyver
are you using the right kernel versions??? I flashed with a 231 version without knowing you cannot downgrade once you go higher so If I try to flash anything lower I get a error at boot or it just wont boot at all like you say. If you can try to flash the version you had on there before your problems then that would be the way to go. Or if you have tried to flash a higher version threw RSD lite then you will have to try that.
RSD lite should boot the phone for you if everything went well. I got a defy + so cant comment what SBF to flash.
notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
When I try turning it on the white LED (charging) turns on, but thats the only response I can get from my phone.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
I get black screen showing "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS.."
But then can't start phone.
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if you are getting no boot what so ever try flashing a fixed sbf and starting all over again? 1.Download this SBF and Flash it
2.Root your Phone
3.Download 2nd Init 1.4.2 and Install ClockworkMod Recovery
4.Download and install this Nandroid Backup << FILE DOWN, please if you happen to have this file PM me>>
5.Enter Recovery, Wipe Data/Cache
6.After wiping, turn off your phone
7.Turn it on and get immediately into Bootloader mode
8.Flash this Fixed SBF
9.Delete Data/Cache again and reboot.
go on this link to get all of the files at the bottom of page:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
i was running ICS CM9 on a froyo kernel...
or you can always try this way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 ??
thanks but i've been to those threads before I posted this.
RSDlite DOES NOT recognise my phone anymore after the two failed sbf flashes, and I now cannot access bootloader.
the only sign i have that anything is working is the white charging led (and thats only on usb not on charger).
is it completely screwed???
no its never screwed. You may of ran your battery flat. Search for the method to use a old USB cable and cut the end off that plugs into a device and use the red and black wires and put the red on positive and the black on the negative of your battery terminals then slide the battery in to hold the wires in place.
When you boot the phone hold down the volume up button so it goes into bootloader. Its a matter of finding the right SBF file, You may need to flash a higher version then you where using its not ideal but if it saves you from buying another phone it will be worth it.
The highest is 231 but you have to flash 2 more SBF ontop to get it to root as you cannot root it apart from using the pre rooted SBF files.
here is a list of SBF files you surly could get one to work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
It may take you a few goes but something will work, try to flash a lower version then work your way up.
tried macgyver it, got it to show up in rsd so tried flash despite not getting into bootloader. RSD says PASS, but still can't boot.
charging light isn't showing either now, but the computer recognises the usb (when battery is hooked up macgyver style) at least. so there is hope.
do I need a new battery?
no you wont need a new battery. Dont leave the cable hard wired to the battery for extended periods as its not the ideal way to charge it and it can over charge the battery.
Your phone wont charge in the state its in with the USB cable attached that is why you need to use the macqyver way.
There will be a rom that will flash. If its being a real pain then flash one with the heighest CG version, you wont be able to flash any lower then that as you cannot downgrade once you go higher.
I have a defy + so cant comment on what SBF files to try but I am sure there is one out there that will work. Also there is a red and green lens defy so you might need the right rom for the right phone.
have you read and tried the all in one defy guide?? there is a few links to SBF files in there and there is a problems bit down the bottom with a SBF and instructions to fix problems
notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
When I try turning it on the white LED (charging) turns on, but thats the only response I can get from my phone.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
I get black screen showing "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS.."
But then can't start phone.
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on.
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Download this sbf: JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTGB_P026_A007_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz else visit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718 Download the sbf files from top and see. sbf on the beginning of the page are the latest. Your phone will work. It just about flashing the correct version.
Did you wipe data and cache using stock recovery! ? Just sayin' !
Sent not from your device!
ryan8r said:
Did you wipe data and cache using stock recovery! ? Just sayin' !
Sent not from your device!
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i did. thats when i realised things were getting bad, because it had an error...
after a failed sbf flash (i think battery died), now i can't get into stock recovery or bootloader (even when hooked up macgyver).
i'm investing $12 in a new battery, then Ill try RSD different SBFs untill one works.
Q- Does it matter if I'm not in bootloader when using RSD? rsd says 'pass' but nothing seems to change on my phone.
Q- Is it worth trying to push a new bootloader onto my phone, or is that included in SBFs?
Q- Can I hook Macgyver up a wall charger or just the computer?
Not even charging LED showing now so hoping it's just a fried battery from a wrong macgyver, and I'll flash an SBF with a new battery and it'll all be sweet
you need to be in bootloader or RSD wont see your phone
Not sure about a bootloader, the one you have should be fine. You will prob have to get the phone working to flash a new bootloader anyway. Not sure if they are in the SBF or not
You can hook up the macqyver up to the phone charger to. You shouldnt need a battery with the macqyver, You should be able to spin the battery around and use the plastic to wedge the wires into the terminals and it should still work.
I wouldnt recommend prolong use of this method as you could fry the battery or phone if done wrong or left in for extended periods. I would keep a close eye on the temp of the phone and battery.
I dont think the phone charges in bootloader at all (well at least mine didnt) I started with a battery 95% and then flashed a few SBF files and left it on thinking it was charging came back and it wouldnt show in RSD. I done the macqyver method and when I got it to work it had 6% battery so it went dead flat even though it was plugged in and white light was on.
Your battery may be fine it may just be dead flat. You will also have the same trouble with the new battery, Unless you get or have a external charger for the battery so you can charge it outside of the phone. It should also tell you if the battery is faulty.
fixed!!!!
macgyver hook up, flashed tmobile usa latest sbf, despite not having bootloader showing... and it worked!
was the 4th sbf i had tried.
so to that other bloke with the same problem, good luck, keep trying!!!
thats good to know told you it was a matter of trying to find the right SBF.
I went threw the same problem and flashed maybe 10 SBF before one worked but now it seems I can use any as long as the CG version is the same. I flashed ICS and loving it so far.
now when I can get the battery to charge i'll be happy!
otherwise i'll just carry a laptop & spliced usb cable around in my pocket so i can use my phone
glad to know RSD works even with a black screen showing no bootloader!
so the battery wont charge??? try to charge it with the macqyver method for 30 mins. But it should charge if the phone is off connecting the charger up to it, Unless you get the battery with ? in the centre. You may of stuffed your battery but try to charge it first.
I have a 12v charger that hooks up to a car battery and I can use that as a last resort only battery it wont do without a attachment is a lipo. I think it can do lion fine.
Edit: Sorry I should say if you get the battery with the ? in the centre its more to do with the software then the hardware. I have ICS 4.0.4 and could only charge to 83% I copied over many battd.bin files one worked (but got to 93%) the rest came up with the battery with ? in the centre so it wouldnt charge and when I booted it said battery was full but it was only 60%. I found a fix for it (this is for defy) it was a CM7 fix and I am using CM9 but it now charges to 100% and works fine.
You should be able to flash another version with the same CG version. if you are not sure post the link up in another thread asking for the version and people will tell you. As if your on froyo then I have no clue of there versions and what can and cant be done.
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BRICKED- No Bootloader
Same Problem with my defy
notes1 said:
Sorry if the answer is out there but I can't find it.
Here is the status of my Defy:
Tried flashing SBF with RSDlite after my recovery stopped working- install of twrp had problems- tried install new recovery- tried factory reset... and I got stuck in a bootloop.
Now RSD says "PASS", but phone wont boot. Tried taking battery out with power & volume buttons pushed, but it wont even enter that black screen bootloader.
I've tried flashing SBF again, no luck.
What can I do?
Keep trying to flash different SBF via RSD despite not getting into bootloader?
EDIT: Now not even charging light coming on even when hooked up macgyver
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aaabro2002 said:
Same Problem with my defy
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Flash Different SBF, because you were using low version SBF
Hello there,
I apologize if the thread seem redundant, but I've already tried I found the forum about similar issues to no avail.
So I bought a bricked Defy on eBay for a couple of bucks and I'm trying to revive it. The seller said he bricked it after a flash that apparently when wrong.
The phone does not power on at all and doesn't even react when the power button is pressed. The white LED turn when I plug the phone to a computer. It does not turn on when plugged to a wall charger.
By using the "MacGyver" method, I have managed to make the phone show up in RSDLite. I have tried to flash multiple SBF images with different CG versions. Each time, the phone wakes up and shows "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS" in blocky font but dies again once the flashing process end. RSDLite simply shows PASSED. Also every informations listed by RSDLite in the "Devices Properties" is shown as N/A except for the bootloader version and the last 4 lines.
Another issue is that I'm not even sure whether it's a DEFY or a DEFY+. The seller listed it as a DEFY+, however the battery that came with it is a 1540mAh and the lens seem to be green. I've tried to flash a DEFY+ before noticing this, so hopefully it didn't screw up the phone even more.
So, any idea? I would appreciate any help provided. Thanks!
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD and drivers.
I have a Defy plus and the same thing happened to me before (black screen even no bootlooder) so I connected my phone to the computer (I can't really remember if I powered with a vol up or not) but I got it recognized by the RSD. try connecting and powering on the the vol up if nothing just connect and see what will happen.
In my satiation, the phone got recognized in the RSD and remained black screen till I pressed start then it finally showed SU UPDATE.
The defy plus has a grey colored power buttons and screws but the defy is totally black
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD and drivers
And please tell me if it worked.
Thanks for the reply. Now I know I have a DEFY!
Unfortunately, getting the phone recognised isn't the problem. I can flash SBF and everytime the process seem to go without any error (RSDLite just show passed once it's done). But the phone is still completely bricked. I also tried the "TI Flash erase" option, to no avail.
I'll just try again a bit, then I guess I'll list it back on eBay.
smiloo said:
Unfortunately, getting the phone recognised isn't the problem. I can flash SBF and everytime the process seem to go without any error (RSDLite just show passed once it's done). But the phone is still completely bricked.
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Did you read Zephyrot's All-in-one thread? I guess you haven't...
Zephyrot said:
CG Versions
With that explained let’s get to business with versions:
CG Version 2: SBF 2.21 / 2.34 / Chinese (Éclair) (Defy)
CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair) (Defy)
CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo) (Defy)
CG Version 5: SBF 4.5.0 / 4.5.1 (Gingerbread) (Defy)
CG Version 6: SBF 4.5.1 (Gingerbread, 2.3.6, (Red lens Defy/Defy+) )
CG Version 7: SBF 4.5.1 (Latests Gingerbreads, 2.3.6, (Red lens Defy/Defy+) )
If you try to flash a lower ID version than the one already on your phone, you will just get a Black screen after booting or a screen telling you to flash an official rom.
So, with this in mind, you can now hop between Android versions without screwing up your phone.
If you have an Éclair Defy and would like to keep the ability to downgrade to it, you should ONLY install FIXED SBFs of the Android Version you want to install, and then use the corresponding Nandroid Backup for that Fixed SBF.
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If you have flashed an SBF with a higher CG39 version than your original, there is a good chance you now own not a Defy, but a Defy+, which is not a huge issue, unless you need to get back your stock ROM for warranty purposes or if your phone has a green lense...
Well thanks for the reply, but my problem isn't that the phone fails to boot, but does simply not turn on at all. It's literally dead as a brick. I've already tried to flash pretty much every sbf under the sun (Including DEFY+ once) and the phone never turned on once (Not even the Moto logo or a bootloader error screen).
The only last thing I see might be a defective battery.
Yeah could be a battery. Get a cheap one ebay job and try a sbf then if it loads then great u can allways put cm7 or cm9 on it
defy cm7
Change your battery or charge with external charger (universal charger)
Or this may work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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hello guys. i 'm also new here, but have exactly same problem with my defy. my battery is full charged when i try to flash.
so i still wait for any good idea. thanks
smiloo said:
Hello there,
I apologize if the thread seem redundant, but I've already tried I found the forum about similar issues to no avail.
So I bought a bricked Defy on eBay for a couple of bucks and I'm trying to revive it. The seller said he bricked it after a flash that apparently when wrong.
The phone does not power on at all and doesn't even react when the power button is pressed. The white LED turn when I plug the phone to a computer. It does not turn on when plugged to a wall charger.
By using the "MacGyver" method, I have managed to make the phone show up in RSDLite. I have tried to flash multiple SBF images with different CG versions. Each time, the phone wakes up and shows "SW UPDATE IN PROGRESS" in blocky font but dies again once the flashing process end. RSDLite simply shows PASSED. Also every informations listed by RSDLite in the "Devices Properties" is shown as N/A except for the bootloader version and the last 4 lines.
Another issue is that I'm not even sure whether it's a DEFY or a DEFY+. The seller listed it as a DEFY+, however the battery that came with it is a 1540mAh and the lens seem to be green. I've tried to flash a DEFY+ before noticing this, so hopefully it didn't screw up the phone even more.
So, any idea? I would appreciate any help provided. Thanks!
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adiid said:
hello guys. i 'm also new here, but have exactly same problem with my defy. my battery is full charged when i try to flash.
so i still wait for any good idea. thanks
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Hi
Try these SBF
1. http://www.4shared.com/rar/xzT3dMXv/JORDN_U3_972151.html
This SBf is For China Defy. IF ur Phone Power up Dont use camera(Burn).
Instal custom Rom ( CM7 CM9 ......)
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
If 2 way not Worked Sadly Maybe u are in Bootloader 7. Be careFull.
Ur Phone power up with DFP231 Bl7. But For Green lens no Battery and No Camera!
Android master said:
I have a Defy plus and the same thing happened to me before (black screen even no bootlooder) so I connected my phone to the computer (I can't really remember if I powered with a vol up or not) but I got it recognized by the RSD. try connecting and powering on the the vol up if nothing just connect and see what will happen.
In my satiation, the phone got recognized in the RSD and remained black screen till I pressed start then it finally showed SU UPDATE.
The defy plus has a grey colored power buttons and screws but the defy is totally black
The most important thing is to use the latest version of RSD and drivers
And please tell me if it worked.
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I am with exactly the same problem. No bootloader, and SU UPDATE showing while the process occurs, and PASS at the end. But once finished, can't turn on the phone.
I have a Defy+ ( and other Defy who helps charging battery).
Do you think I need to try MacGyver method?
only white led black screen on my defy after flashing with rsdlite
duduzerah said:
I am with exactly the same problem. No bootloader, and SU UPDATE showing while the process occurs, and PASS at the end. But once finished, can't turn on the phone.
I have a Defy+ ( and other Defy who helps charging battery).
Do you think I need to try MacGyver method?
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can anyone tell me what the MacGyver method is and how it work thnx
I had cm11 (or 10, not sure) installed for about a month now (back in december) .... Went on a trip, and when coming back my phone battery ran out at the airport somehow, but i had fully charged it and i was not out all day enough for it to run out fully... I take my phone home, not really giving it much importance, and i noticed it was stuck on the bootlogo.. so i went into recovery and tried to re-flash the rom and fix it, but when i was installing the ROM again, the phone shut off randomly (i heard that happened with a certain recovery menu software sometimes, i cant remember the name)... then the phone wouldn't charge and/or turn on, and when I connect it to the pc, nothing happens other than the white led coming on.. RSD won't recognize it...
So i found out i had to charge the battery manually, and used a Universal Charger... Still, no recognition by RSD Lite...
Finally, i found a way:
1. Open RSDLite
2. Connect phone (no battery on it)
3. While holding Power + Vol Up, put the battery in
4. RSD will recognize your phone!
Problem is, it recognizes my MB525 as "S Flash OMAP0360"
And when i try to flash a .sbf i used previously to recover my phone (had bricked it before by trying to change ROMs in a sloppy manner), it seems to flash smoothly, but when it's going to reboot the phone, the progress goes up to 100% and then asks me to reboot it manually.. I read somewhere that to fix that i should take the battery out, disconnect the phone, put it back in, and make RSD recognize it like i mentioned before...... and after RSDLite says flashing is PASSED, the phone still won't turn on... I have tried at least three times and gotten the same result... Help?
The SBF i am using (because it helped me save my phone before) is:
JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25TIGCOLA01E.0R_JORLAFROTIGCOL A_P009_A002_M010_HWp3_WIG146037_Service1FF.sbf
EDIT: Also, i read somewhere that when all you get is the white led (when connecting to PC) it means that your battery is not charged enough for flashing.. ?
I don't know what to do?? I read that defy's are really hard to brick... But mine got bricked out of nowhere.. wtf?
Niko. said:
I had cm11 (or 10, not sure) installed for about a month now (back in december) .... Went on a trip, and when coming back my phone battery ran out at the airport somehow, but i had fully charged it and i was not out all day enough for it to run out fully... I take my phone home, not really giving it much importance, and i noticed it was stuck on the bootlogo.. so i went into recovery and tried to re-flash the rom and fix it, but when i was installing the ROM again, the phone shut off randomly (i heard that happened with a certain recovery menu software sometimes, i cant remember the name)... then the phone wouldn't charge and/or turn on, and when I connect it to the pc, nothing happens other than the white led coming on.. RSD won't recognize it...
So i found out i had to charge the battery manually, and used a Universal Charger... Still, no recognition by RSD Lite...
Finally, i found a way:
1. Open RSDLite
2. Connect phone (no battery on it)
3. While holding Power + Vol Up, put the battery in
4. RSD will recognize your phone!
Problem is, it recognizes my MB525 as "S Flash OMAP0360"
And when i try to flash a .sbf i used previously to recover my phone (had bricked it before by trying to change ROMs in a sloppy manner), it seems to flash smoothly, but when it's going to reboot the phone, the progress goes up to 100% and then asks me to reboot it manually.. I read somewhere that to fix that i should take the battery out, disconnect the phone, put it back in, and make RSD recognize it like i mentioned before...... and after RSDLite says flashing is PASSED, the phone still won't turn on... I have tried at least three times and gotten the same result... Help?
The SBF i am using (because it helped me save my phone before) is:
JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25TIGCOLA01E.0R_JORLAFROTIGCOL A_P009_A002_M010_HWp3_WIG146037_Service1FF.sbf
EDIT: Also, i read somewhere that when all you get is the white led (when connecting to PC) it means that your battery is not charged enough for flashing.. ?
I don't know what to do?? I read that defy's are really hard to brick... But mine got bricked out of nowhere.. wtf?
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Hey there. Well, if it's still flashable it ain't bricked. I've got my other one to not be recognized (broken bootloader), which is beyond usual repair. So, did you you flash some random SBF before the rescue one you're trying out now? There's a problem with previously flashed GingerBread or Defy+ SBF images. So it would be good to know, what was the SBF running before trying "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9". Also according to http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27 that is 2.2.1 and there's also a "Android 2.2.2 Blur_Version.34.4.802.MB525.Latam.en.01". Tried that as well?
Anyhow, if the phone is seen by RSDlite it actually powers on and is recoverable. If the screen is just staying black, then you probably tried a downgrade from a Gingerbread SBF and didn't watch out for the BL-version.
If it's a BL-version problem then this might help. Also there is a guide to unbrick. And yes, keep an eye out for the battery level. Best would be an external charger, as the phone does not charge. McGyver way should still work though.
If it shows a LED and is seen over USb, it's not dead (yet)
Also look out for section "Common Problems/Questions" here.
htto said:
Hey there. Well, if it's still flashable it ain't bricked. I've got my other one to not be recognized (broken bootloader), which is beyond usual repair. So, did you you flash some random SBF before the rescue one you're trying out now? There's a problem with previously flashed GingerBread or Defy+ SBF images. So it would be good to know, what was the SBF running before trying "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_107-9". Also according to http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=27 that is 2.2.1 and there's also a "Android 2.2.2 Blur_Version.34.4.802.MB525.Latam.en.01". Tried that as well?
Anyhow, if the phone is seen by RSDlite it actually powers on and is recoverable. If the screen is just staying black, then you probably tried a downgrade from a Gingerbread SBF and didn't watch out for the BL-version.
If it's a BL-version problem then this might help. Also there is a guide to unbrick. And yes, keep an eye out for the battery level. Best would be an external charger, as the phone does not charge. McGyver way should still work though.
If it shows a LED and is seen over USb, it's not dead (yet)
Also look out for section "Common Problems/Questions" here.
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No, i have not flashed other SBF's ever... only CM roms but i did it through the phone itself, in recovery mode.. I'll try the 2.2.2 one you told me about and see how that works out!
EDIT: No luck, the phone stays at a black screen.. it wont even reboot when RSD is done flashing.. i have to take the battery out and put it in bootloader again for RSD to say it PASSED the flashing
Niko. said:
No, i have not flashed other SBF's ever... only CM roms but i did it through the phone itself, in recovery mode.. I'll try the 2.2.2 one you told me about and see how that works out!
EDIT: No luck, the phone stays at a black screen.. it wont even reboot when RSD is done flashing.. i have to take the battery out and put it in bootloader again for RSD to say it PASSED the flashing
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Too bad Anyway, did you try 8. from here, that is
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If you get " Please manually power up this phone " in RSD Lite pull battery out > put your battery back > reboot into stock recovery by holding Power button and Vol- button > Choose Wipe data/cache > Choose Reboot system now
"? Also holding Power and Vol-Down while inserting battery is said to work.
I wonder if there is an SBF that also flashes cache and userdata partitions...
Nope, it just stays black-screened.... It only works if i do VOL-UP for bootloader mode, but that doesnt help
Umm, as a shot into the blue: Did you try to reinstall the Defy drivers from Motorola? It seems that missing those hinder RSD lite from detecting the Phone as MB52x and instead just show the Processor identification, i.e. "S Flash OMAP3630"
Try dfp 231. The processor identification is correct( rsdlite has been set up properly).
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk
thekguy said:
Try dfp 231. The processor identification is correct( rsdlite has been set up properly).
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Yeah, it worked also for the defy in this thread.
And just for reference the original thread with the hinted SBF:in post #4
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WIIII i have successfull unbriked my defy with this rom
defyplus_u3_4.5.1-134_dfp-231_cn_sign_ucadefyemarab1b50aa009.0r_pds03c_usajr dngibrird15_p015_a030_service1ff.sbf.gz
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Basically had the same BL7-problem.
htto said:
Yeah, it worked also for the defy in this thread.
And just for reference the original thread with the hinted SBF:in post #4
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WIIII i have successfull unbriked my defy with this rom
defyplus_u3_4.5.1-134_dfp-231_cn_sign_ucadefyemarab1b50aa009.0r_pds03c_usajr dngibrird15_p015_a030_service1ff.sbf.gz
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Basically had the same BL7-problem.
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wtf, the phone flashed correctly and everything but the screen won't turn on.... The computer recognizes it as MB526 now, and i can touch the home button and stuff and it will vibrate like it used to when it worked... i can also make the ringtones play using the moto portal page... Everything works (except for calls) other than the fact that i still have a black screen... the screen just wont turn on... Also it said it had very little internal memory compared to what it had before (had at least 2 gb i think.. now not even one)
I had sent the phone over to fix, and they told me it was unfixable... Is it possible that the guy (it wasnt an official company) who "tried to fix it" simply took parts out of it ? -_- (if he had taken parts out of it im guessing the phone wouldnt turn on at all..?)
What can i do to turn the screen on??
EDIT: i flashed DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
I couldnt find the one you posted there so i did the central europe one...
Niko. said:
wtf, the phone flashed correctly and everything but the screen won't turn on.... The computer recognizes it as MB526 now, and i can touch the home button and stuff and it will vibrate like it used to when it worked... i can also make the ringtones play using the moto portal page... Everything works (except for calls) other than the fact that i still have a black screen... the screen just wont turn on... Also it said it had very little internal memory compared to what it had before (had at least 2 gb i think.. now not even one)
I had sent the phone over to fix, and they told me it was unfixable... Is it possible that the guy (it wasnt an official company) who "tried to fix it" simply took parts out of it ? -_- (if he had taken parts out of it im guessing the phone wouldnt turn on at all..?)
What can i do to turn the screen on??
EDIT: i flashed DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf
I couldnt find the one you posted there so i did the central europe one...
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Umm, according to this thread it is supposed to be this one.
The GR vs CN maybe doesn't make a difference, but maybe the P022_A022 vs. P015_A030?
Doesn't a working phone portal allow for somehow to get logs/adb etc?